Lulzsec Hacks Bethesda

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Am I the only one that thinks if these guys somehow delay the release of Skyrim because of this nonsense, people will come looking for them with axes??

At least they didn't do anything major. (like mess with Skyrim!)

Seriously though, these guys need to stop. Some of the things they've done. (like the porn site thing) were kind of funny, but it's only a matter of time before they really fuck stuff up.

Duskflamer:

lovest harding:

Duskflamer:

Given that this "attack" didn't do much in actual damage, I would say that the goal of this attack was to alert Bethesda to the problems with their security, and based on Bethesda's response ("These attacks will be evaluated to determine if there are any additional protections we might take that would be prudent.") they actually get the point.

If you're going to give what amounts to a friendly, if rude, reminder of security problems, would you rather it benefit a company you like? or one you hate?

If they want to enhance security so much and are willing to hack for free, why the hell not just inform Bethesda upfront and simply not take anything instead of turning this into we're going to hack and take stuff for the lulz, then return what was taken saying that they like the company?
I fail to see how this is the best way to inform a company of it's website security issues.

I call bullshit on them just wanting to help their security anyway.
Look at their track record and tell me, honestly, that all they want to do is help companies they like.

The more public the hacking is the more pressure is put on the companies. It's easy to dismiss something if nobody else notices, but if all eyes are on you because of something that happened, you'd be a bit quicker in setting up defenses against future hacking.

Lulzsec may not be malicious but by being public there's a risk that some more malicious hackers could follow in their footsteps, and that's what spurs the companies to improve security. If it was just some private e-mail saying "Oh yea, we totally hacked your database lulz." do you think the company would treat it with the same level of urgency or seriousness?

I do. Why? Because of circumstances. I highly doubt a big company like Bethesda would take any chances after the PSN hacking. If I ran a company I certainly wouldn't.
They should work with the company instead of working against them. Choosing to take private information from customers makes the company look bad.

All it would have taken was one person who didn't agree to give the information back. Why take the damn risk of a harming a company in that way in order to help them?

And I repeat myself, I call bullshit on their ultimate goal to help.
All they do is bullshit. Hacking for fun is like playing Russian roulette. Someone in the end is going to get shot, and I hope it's the hackers rather than the customers of one of these companies.

EDIT: I could also say the same thing about shoplifting. I stole so they would know what was wrong with their store security. That doesn't make anything better and I will get punished. It's still not an appropriate way to help the store and it sounds like a scape goat. Instead of admitting I stole because I like to steal or that I wanted an item for free, I say that I just wanted to help.

So by stealing users' information, you're speeding up the production cycle of the company you stole the information from? Wow. I wish Lulzsec would actually try to take themselves seriously, then they would realize how FUCKING idiotic they are.

EDIT: I just realized that Lulzsec didn't actually leak the user info. I really need to read into things more carefully and stop being paranoid at every turn.

Want them to speed up huh?
Stu-stu-stu-stu-stupidy! Sing along!

Duskflamer:

lovest harding:

Duskflamer:

Given that this "attack" didn't do much in actual damage, I would say that the goal of this attack was to alert Bethesda to the problems with their security, and based on Bethesda's response ("These attacks will be evaluated to determine if there are any additional protections we might take that would be prudent.") they actually get the point.

If you're going to give what amounts to a friendly, if rude, reminder of security problems, would you rather it benefit a company you like? or one you hate?

If they want to enhance security so much and are willing to hack for free, why the hell not just inform Bethesda upfront and simply not take anything instead of turning this into we're going to hack and take stuff for the lulz, then return what was taken saying that they like the company?
I fail to see how this is the best way to inform a company of it's website security issues.

I call bullshit on them just wanting to help their security anyway.
Look at their track record and tell me, honestly, that all they want to do is help companies they like.

The more public the hacking is the more pressure is put on the companies. It's easy to dismiss something if nobody else notices, but if all eyes are on you because of something that happened, you'd be a bit quicker in setting up defenses against future hacking.

Lulzsec may not be malicious but by being public there's a risk that some more malicious hackers could follow in their footsteps, and that's what spurs the companies to improve security. If it was just some private e-mail saying "Oh yea, we totally hacked your database lulz." do you think the company would treat it with the same level of urgency or seriousness?

Is that why they posted user info on the web when the accually hacked another site. These guys are pricks who do not care about anyone but themselves. Anon (even if they hacked PSN) never posted user info these guys did. I do not support them in anyway.

Can we just assume that everyone in the universe was "hacked" and stop posting and reading these articles.

They'll go away faster if we don't talk about them. They're the WBC of the internet.

'You're Welcome'

They certainly have quite the god complex to say that just because they didn't do all the harm they could have.

I may not be a hacker, but I don't use my, say, chemistry knowledge to synthesize nitroglycerin and then demand people thank me for not throwing it at their houses.

I wished people would just stop reporting about Lulzsec. It only motivates them to do more. If they didn't get all the attention, they would have to reason to hack so many sites and companies.

"If there is a Lulz in the woods and nobody is there to see it, was it worth it?"

I hope they keep on hacking, just the moral outrage on the escapist forums is totally worth it.

If they delay Skrim....... I do belive the mass riots will start.. and will end when the ones responsible are being digested in the stomachs of the pigs.

lovest harding:
So they hacked a site of a company they like because they thought it'd be funny?
Am I just missing the joke or are these people really this stupid?

Troublesome Lagomorph:
...You like the company so you hack them?
Excuse me if I'm missing something, but WHAT?

They did the same thing to Nintendo. LulzSec is consistently inconsistent.

lovest harding:
So they hacked a site of a company they like because they thought it'd be funny?
Am I just missing the joke or are these people really this stupid?

Maybe they are doing it for Sony. Youknow, when Sony was hacked everyone was quick to go out of their way and accuse of poor security. The Lulz Boat is hacking everyone out there to prove that either Hackers are all pro, or everybody's security sucks.

Would make more sense if they Hacked Microsoft. Or apple. But I dont wanna tempt them. They are pretty stupid.

So they wanted to speed up the production of Skyrim? Well, apparently literally every member of Lulzsec is retarded, because stealing a source of a company's revenue is not going to SPEED UP a monster project like Skyrim.

I can't wait for somebody to torpedo the Lulzboat.

Nikolaz72:

lovest harding:
So they hacked a site of a company they like because they thought it'd be funny?
Am I just missing the joke or are these people really this stupid?

Maybe they are doing it for Sony. Youknow, when Sony was hacked everyone was quick to go out of their way and accuse of poor security. The Lulz Boat is hacking everyone out there to prove that either Hackers are all pro, or everybody's security sucks.

Would make more sense if they Hacked Microsoft. Or apple. But I dont wanna tempt them. They are pretty stupid.

(I keep pointing this out...)

LulzSec hacked Infragard Atlanta. They do the security on US federal sites. They also hacked it a month after Infragard set up the 'Infragard Atlanta Alliance' specifically to defend against hacking attempts.

The people who keep saying 'Everything can be hacked' aren't just making an excuse. It's actually true.

CJ1145:
So they wanted to speed up the production of Skyrim? Well, apparently literally every member of Lulzsec is retarded, because stealing a source of a company's revenue is not going to SPEED UP a monster project like Skyrim.

Even if it did, speeding up production will just result in a rushed, (extra) glitchy game.

Maybe LulzSec should do something useful for change, like... I don't know... GO DIE IN A HOLE.

lovest harding:
So they hacked a site of a company they like because they thought it'd be funny?
Am I just missing the joke or are these people really this stupid?

You aren't missing the joke. They just have pudding for brains and not even the good kind of pudding.

With root access to the entire server farm they could have done almost anything they wanted. The fact is they did not. I don't necessarily like an attack against Bethesda who I regard quite highly but I give the hax0rs credit for not causing damage. They hax0red just to show that they could and hopefully Bethesda will improve their network security as a result.

In that case, I don't think negatively of them at all. Doing to show you can do is the best way to push yourself and your boundaries.

Dr. wonderful:
Nothing more then Huge Manchildren.
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Nothing to see folks, carried on

Hugh (Mispronounced as "huge" on purpose) Manchild would be a horrible porn name.

On Topic: Lulzboat = fucktards. Someone, anyone, take their asses down!

It says on the link something about hacking 'Senate.gov' too. Where's the stuff about that?

So they like Bethesda.
They want Skyrim's production to be sped up a wee bit.
So they hack their website and access Brink's player and stat database?

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Set sail for fail? lozl

lovest harding:

If they want to enhance security so much and are willing to hack for free, why the hell not just inform Bethesda upfront and simply not take anything instead of turning this into we're going to hack and take stuff for the lulz, then return what was taken saying that they like the company?
I fail to see how this is the best way to inform a company of it's website security issues.

I call bullshit on them just wanting to help their security anyway.
Look at their track record and tell me, honestly, that all they want to do is help companies they like.

People regularly tell companies that their security is lacking. Most companies choose to brush off such comments as fear-mongering or bs.

I'm starting to realize that all of these operations are actually for the overall betterment of the internet. People are starting to pay attention to security, instead of simply assuming that their personal information is completely safe in the hands of a company. Companies are starting to actually listen when people tell them that they are not as invincible as they claim that they are. While I don't agree with them releasing the information that they've managed to get from these sites, overall they are doing something that will hopefully make the internet safer overall. Because they are posting the methods they use to gain access to each of the sites, you better believe that security techs are trying to update their sites ASAP to prevent such breaches from affecting them as well.

brb, gonna start some anal intrusion to promote Rape Awareness.

newsroom is slow on the weekends isnt it... And I was trying to warn escapist members to do the same thing as bethesda is now advising.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.291117

Johnson McGee:
'You're Welcome'

They certainly have quite the god complex to say that just because they didn't do all the harm they could have.

I may not be a hacker, but I don't use my, say, chemistry knowledge to synthesize nitroglycerin and then demand people thank me for not throwing it at their houses.

I think it's more in the line of:

You synthesize nitroglycerin, throw it through someone's house. The person finds out it was all a setup, and the house owner was hooked up to a machine in a similar vein to Inception. No actual damage was done, but there is a known weakness. They did not take any data to their advantage, therefore not really doing anything bad, apart from delay Skyrim.

Ah, it's almost refreshing, these guys remind me of the old days of Anonymous, before all that Chanology shit, back when it was lulz for the sake of lulz.

How i miss it, but i guess i'll have to make due with the antics of these guys.

Here's hoping they don't get caught. Unless of course it's funny when they do.

Oh´, and are all the people who are whining about how this might delay Skyrim actually being serious, are they THAT clueless?

Here's a hint guys:

Am really looking forward to Skyrim of course, and no way should they rush such a masterpiece of a game. By wanting it sooner, they'll be asking for bugs, glitches, and so much things lacking from gameplay. This is only June, let them finish the game till November 11th guys.

Plus, why hack a website you like? "You're welcome"? No, more like "Lulz we hacked for no reason just cause we wanted to do itz and Bethesda would be happy with our hacking skills" :I Sorry if it sounds awfully rude but I just get that impression.

Why are they so obsessed with game related stuff. I think the hackers are just a bunch of fanboys. God, fanboys with hacking skills... the world was not ready.

Seems like we have a few misguided people here.

"I wish anon would hack them" - lulzsec is basically part of Anonymous(all it takes to be among them is be anonymous, duh). Anonymous is not really a group with a definite long-term aim, they do things "for the lulz" just as much.

"If there's no point, why do it" - you don't really understand what the phrase "for the lulz" means, do you?

I'm not in any way defending LulzSec and wish they hadn't done it. I just think the abovementioned opinions would disappear.

Gee, those guys sure do love hacking, don't they?

WaaghPowa:

Andy Chalk:
We actually like this company and would like for them to speed up the production of Skyrim

And so they proceed to hack their system. This would seem counter productive, right?

Their motive was to tell other hackers that have discovered weaknesses with Brink that Lulzsec is the king of the sea. Admittedly, it is. Anonymous may be a contender but they're more or less a band of internet rebels rather than internet pirates as Lulzsec attributes themselves to. Basically, they want to make sure everyone knows that their boat is bigger than everyone elses.

OT: It is only a matter of time before they stop, whether voluntary or involuntary. It is merely a matter of patience on our part before the time arrives when it comes to an end and it is a matter of virtue on the part of the enforcement until they are caught.

Firetaffer:

Johnson McGee:

I may not be a hacker, but I don't use my, say, chemistry knowledge to synthesize nitroglycerin and then demand people thank me for not throwing it at their houses.

I think it's more in the line of:

You synthesize nitroglycerin, throw it through someone's house. The person finds out it was all a setup, and the house owner was hooked up to a machine in a similar vein to Inception. No actual damage was done, but there is a known weakness. They did not take any data to their advantage, therefore not really doing anything bad, apart from delay Skyrim.

The point I was trying to make was that everyone is better at something, and that being good at hacking doesn't give them a license to lord it over everyone else and flaunt the law.

I wonder if Lulzsec's member(s) were ignored as children. It seems to me this is a case of them thinking negative attention is better than no attention.

So... wait a second. They hacked Bethesda websites because they wanted them to speed up production of Skyrim? I know I'm not the only one who's saying "What the fuck?!" to this? This is like me hacking UPS because I want them to get my Gamestop order in faster. I mean come on now! I think we all had our fun and this shit is starting to get old. On second thought, scratch that. There was never really any fun in this to begin with. The only thing getting accomplished here is the companies involved being hurt and in turn unable to produce quality products. In my eyes, these "Lulz Boat" assholes are the epitomy of fucking stupid.

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