Catherine Publisher Talks About Covering Up Game's Risque Art

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Catherine Publisher Talks About Covering Up Game's Risque Art

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The game remains unchanged for its Western review, but the game's promotional art hasn't been so lucky.

Jeremy Cail, a creative designer for Atlus' US branch, has revealed some of the problems that the publisher had with Catherine's rather raunchy artwork in the American market. Back in April, it was revealed that the game's box art had been tweaked for certain US retailers.

"We've had ups and down from retailers about the provocative nature of the artwork," he said. "Things you'd think you were OK actually caused comment." Cail explained that while the content on the game disc is the same, Atlus had to create two different versions of the cover artwork for Catherine, as certain retailers were concerned with what their customers might think. "They wanted the change in case people got the wrong idea about the game," he said. "Or, as I see it, the right idea about Catherine!"

It wasn't just retailers that had problems with some of Catherine's artwork either; Atlus put together a promotional badge stuffer for E3 that showed off the game's two leading ladies, Catherine and Katherine, and Cail said that it took three or four attempts to get it right. What made things more difficult, he said, was that the Atlus US had to balance concerns for the US market with what the Japanese branch - which developed the game - intended for the art. He added that Atlus is well aware that its games have a niche audience, so it wanted to preserve as much of the original art as it could for those fans.

The fact that Catherine actually got a Western release in the first place is impressive, and to make it without cuts is wonderful. In an ideal world, the changes that Atlus made to the artwork wouldn't have been necessary at all, but if the game itself is unchanged then it doesn't seem that bad of a compromise.

Catherine comes out for PS3 and Xbox 360 this July.

Source: The A List Daily via Industry Gamers

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I guess its good that Atlus realizes they are a niche' market... but could you maybe print more than a hundred copies? I swear, every Atlus title becomes a damned treasure hunt to find after the first initial months.

Seriously? I find that laughable. Having a gruff looking middle aged guy pointing a sawed off shotgun at people from a poster is okay, but a hint of sexuality? Gah, offensive! Go away!

PS3 version is still hot, but with all the art work we have with violence sex is a problem?

RedEyesBlackGamer:
Seriously? I find that laughable. Having a gruff looking middle aged guy pointing a sawed off shotgun at people from a poster is okay, but a hint of sexuality? Gah, offensive! Go away!

Welcome to the USA.

Looking forward to Catherine.

I think he said it best "in case people got the wrong idea... or as I see it, the right idea."
God forbid a game with sexually provocative content has sexually charged artwork. I really don't understand how it's considered more morally acceptable to censor the artwork than to leave it as it was. It makes way more sense for games like this to market themselves as such, then the customers know what they're getting, instead of "I didn't know I was buying an erotic horror game! They didn't signpost that well enough!"

But this stuff is ok?

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Zac Smith:
But this stuff is ok?

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I honestly think there is a prejudice. Catherine looking animeish and coming from Japan probably influenced a few people's decision more than they care to admit.

I wonder if they'll run into the same problems when Europe gets the game in 2016.

Tempted to get the 360 version for a K boxart.

But playing an Atlus game on an Xbox would feel...WRONG.

Onyx Oblivion:
Tempted to get the 360 version for a K boxart.

But playing an Atlus game on an Xbox would feel...WRONG.

I want that boxart too. But my 360 is 3+ years old. I'm afraid of it dying before/while I play the game. So I have to get the PS3 version for my shiny new PS3. Yeah, I don't think I have ever played an Atlus made game on a non-Sony system. My DS broke.

RedEyesBlackGamer:

Zac Smith:
But this stuff is ok?

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I honestly think there is a prejudice. Catherine looking animeish and coming from Japan probably influenced a few people's decision more than they care to admit.

That chick looks kind of anime-ish herself.

It should be noted that this censorship is only for certain skittish retailers like Walmart and we don't know if Walmart carried X Blades. Maybe they didn't for exactly the same reason.

Some day America will stop being such a Hypocritical prude.....

GrizzlerBorno:
Some day America will stop being such a Hypocritical prude.....

Not "America", but Wal-Mart & K-Mart: they have to stock the game.

(captcha: ecomagination...?)

I'm going to be honest and say that I'm kind of glad... I mean, let's be real here. The original PS3 box art was her halfway through taking off her shirt with the dude trapped in her cleavage... I get that it's an M rated game but when you have something like that in a store where little kids are walking around and will no doubt see... it's just a little too much, in my opinion.

I'm pretty much the anti-"think of the children" crap, but when you had something that was that in-your-face when it really didn't need to be, it doesn't surprise me that it had to be cut down a little. And it's basically the same exact pictures except zoomed in...

And no, I don't have a problem with violent covers, either. Because they aren't actually violent. What a box is supposed to do is tell you what's in the game... I'm fine with the alternate box art for Catherine because it hints that the game will be sexual without actually coming out and shoving questionable art in the faces of parents who would complain and little kids who would giggle and question. Red Dead Redemption is fine because it shows John Marston with a shotgun, but that's it. It would have been different if it backed up and showed a freshly killed body with half a head missing.

There is a difference and if you disagree, then I want you to think of watching movies with your parents. I can bet that you'll be fine through all the violence, but the minute a sex scene shows up you'll start feeling uncomfortable.

EDIT: And by the way, if you really just want to go out and buy the sexual cover just for the sake of having it, Amazon still has the option to buy the original cover. Seriously, you guys are making such a huge deal out of this when it's really not.

acsoundwave:

Not "America", but Wal-Mart & K-Mart: they have to stock the game.

(captcha: ecomagination...?)

...just, no.

It's not Wal-Mart or the like. It is indeed a US thing. And one that will never cease to baffle me.
Nowhere else nudity and sexuality are regarded as less apropriate for minors than any kind of violence.

so yeah:

GrizzlerBorno:
Some day America will stop being such a Hypocritical prude.....

ProfessorLayton:
I'm going to be honest and say that I'm kind of glad... I mean, let's be real here. The original PS3 box art was her halfway through taking off her shirt with the dude trapped in her cleavage... I get that it's an M rated game but when you have something like that in a store where little kids are walking around and will no doubt see... it's just a little too much, in my opinion.

I'm pretty much the anti-"think of the children" crap, but when you had something that was that in-your-face when it really didn't need to be, it doesn't surprise me that it had to be cut down a little. And it's basically the same exact pictures except zoomed in...

And no, I don't have a problem with violent covers, either. Because they aren't actually violent. What a box is supposed to do is tell you what's in the game... I'm fine with the alternate box art for Catherine because it hints that the game will be sexual without actually coming out and shoving questionable art in the faces of parents who would complain and little kids who would giggle and question. Red Dead Redemption is fine because it shows John Marston with a shotgun, but that's it. It would have been different if it backed up and showed a freshly killed body with half a head missing.

There is a difference and if you disagree, then I want you to think of watching movies with your parents. I can bet that you'll be fine through all the violence, but the minute a sex scene shows up you'll start feeling uncomfortable.

EDIT: And by the way, if you really just want to go out and buy the sexual cover just for the sake of having it, Amazon still has the option to buy the original cover. Seriously, you guys are making such a huge deal out of this when it's really not.

Because we all know, pictures with suggested sexuality damage a childrens brain, right? Right.

Your post pretty much sums up everything wrong with how sexuality is treated in america. It's something kids below 16 (or so) needn't be exposed to...or else something horriblee will happen...i guess.

They just cropped the photo.
I don't see the big deal. If it means that a good company will earn more revenue then fine.
I do find it annoying that Wal-mart and other big box stores will not sell a game just because of the art work.

Zac Smith:
But this stuff is ok?

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I don't have much of a problem with box art being tweaked providing the game itself is left alone. However it needs to be consistent and clearly it is not.

You wouldn't want all those children who had their parents buy them Duke Nukem Forever see some almost-partial-suggested-nudity on the cover of a Japanese game. They might all get pregnant.

In all seriousness though, they might all get pregnant. Same thing happened to my sister when she watched Sailor Moon as a kid.

I seem to recall a lot of dvd and game cases with many severed limbs but a hint of sexuality is a no no?

Everything about sex v violence has been said and done, Americans are weird etc...

My point, is that gaming WILL NOT be taken seriously while shit like this can be allowed to happen. Graphic sexual imagery is used to advertise pretty much everything. I walk past images of women in extremely sexual lingerie(Ann Summers shops on the walk route into the office = win) every day... Video covers, music albums... But games aren't given the green light because they're seen as for kids, even the blatantly mature ones like Catherine.

Don't see a huge problem with this, yeah it's full of hypocrisy but if it gets the game released over here then I'm fine with that. Seriously people, it's just Cover Art, if it bothers you so much then print off an original version and stick it on your game. It's not like the Game itself underwent censorship

Well atleast they left the in game content alone, and also It wont be as emmbarassing when your girlfriend or mum or whoever finds it xD

Looking at the old boxes again I can see the problem. Would have liked it to be unchanged, because it wasn't all that bad, but what ever.

Well, at least it comes to the USA. But i also find it a bit silly that it got blocked, but oh well.
And no deadline for good old Europe, eh?
Well damn.

hooblabla6262:
You wouldn't want all those children who had their parents buy them Duke Nukem Forever see some almost-partial-suggested-nudity on the cover of a Japanese game. They might all get pregnant.

In all seriousness though, they might all get pregnant. Same thing happened to my sister when she watched Sailor Moon as a kid.

Winnahhhhh!! I actually lol'd.

Seriously though, Spot on man.

But loads of games have sex in them, I guess we should all just be greatful that one, at least seems, to be attempting to treat the matter of sex in anything other then a manner so immature and pathetic it causes me personal shame.

ramox:
Because we all know, pictures with suggested sexuality damage a childrens brain, right? Right.

Your post pretty much sums up everything wrong with how sexuality is treated in america. It's something kids below 16 (or so) needn't be exposed to...or else something horriblee will happen...i guess.

I'm not saying it causes much damage in the way you're thinking of. And you know what? It is wrong how sexuality is being treated in America. People make too big of a deal about something that literally has to happen for humanity to survive. But overindulgence is just as bad as complete abstinence and unnecessarily throwing in tits on the box art of a video game when it can easily be censored and give off the same message is wrong. Call it hypocritical, but being overly sexual for no reason just so you can spit the first amendment back at whoever challenges it is silly and annoying.

It's not that I'm suggesting everyone castrate themselves because every sexual urge is completely immoral and you'll burn in hell forever because you once glanced and a Playboy when you were 13. But I am suggesting that other people believe that and no matter how crazy you might think it is some people don't want anything like that anywhere near their kids and would get extremely upset when you could avoid any parental outrage by just panning the camera up slightly. And if you really think this isn't that bad, would you like to explain buying this game in the presence of a parent/grandparent? While you might feel that it's not that bad, other people do.

Lionsfan:
Don't see a huge problem with this, yeah it's full of hypocrisy but if it gets the game released over here then I'm fine with that. Seriously people, it's just Cover Art, if it bothers you so much then print off an original version and stick it on your game. It's not like the Game itself underwent censorship

Which is what bothers me even more about these comments... the game itself wasn't even touched and you can still buy the game with the original box art on Amazon if you really want to... so what's the problem?

still grabbing the game on my 360. so the box art is censored,its the game that matters.

as long as i don't lose content i don't care.

these guys never saw the agarest box then ANIME HOT SPRING FTW!!

Chelsea O'shea:
still grabbing the game on my 360. so the box art is censored,its the game that matters.

as long as i don't lose content i don't care.

This is exactly how I feel. My boxes sit on a shelf, it's the game I'm concerned with.

I like the new art better. It actually looks like a modern videogame box, not a 2D adventure from the early 90's combined with cheap porn. What I mean I don't mind erotic on game boxes, I just don't like the original one.

On the other hand, it now looks like some Audiosurf ripoff for girls.

Eh.

I don't why they could just put a thing of cardboard around it, might been cheaper too. While the change of the art isn't that big of a deal considering how America markets things anyway wanted this cover censored just seems stupid.

It's the US, why are people still surprised? Or even bitch about it?
..Because censor should always be fought, I guess.

Fronzel:

RedEyesBlackGamer:

Zac Smith:
But this stuff is ok?

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I honestly think there is a prejudice. Catherine looking animeish and coming from Japan probably influenced a few people's decision more than they care to admit.

That chick looks kind of anime-ish herself.

It should be noted that this censorship is only for certain skittish retailers like Walmart and we don't know if Walmart carried X Blades. Maybe they didn't for exactly the same reason.

Actually Wal-mart did/does carry X-Blades, and it should be noted that the X-Blades cover was changed for the US release.

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