Leland Yee Decries Supreme Court Decision

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Leland Yee Decries Supreme Court Decision

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California Senator and notorious videogame hater Leland Yee says today's Supreme Court decision granting First Amendment protection to games is a blow to the rights of parents and the safety of our communities.

Leland Yee, as you may know, has spent the past several years fighting to impose laws in California that would ban the sale of mature videogames to minors. That may not sound like such a bad idea on the surface but it's a fairly fundamental violation of the First Amendment, which is why similar laws in numerous other states have been shot down every time they've come up. But Yee was a dog with a bone and somehow his quest became California's, which led to the deep irony of an effectively broke state spending truckloads of money fighting for an indefensible law at the behest of a man who became famous by ripping Brian Thompson's heart out through his lower intestines.

Anyway, the Supreme Court dropped the hammer of jurisprudence on Leland's law today - details here - and as you might expect, the man was none too happy about it, saying the ruling "put the interests of corporate America before the interests of our children."

"As a result of their decision, Wal-Mart and the videogame industry will continue to make billions of dollars at the expense of our kids' mental health and the safety of our community," Yee said. "It is simply wrong that the videogame industry can be allowed to put their profit margins over the rights of parents and the well-being of children."

It's a ridiculous sentiment, of course. At its core, all this ruling does is extend to the videogame industry the same protections enjoyed by the film, music and book industries. The right of parents to not buy their children mature videogames, or any other form of entertainment media, remains intact.

Yet in spite of all the time and money wasted, Yee was determined to put a positive spin on the loss, saying he is "certain that this eight-year legislative and legal battle has raised the consciousness of this issue for many parents and grandparents, and has forced the videogame industry to do a better job at appropriately rating these games."

So I guess it was all worthwhile then.

Source: PCMag.com

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Laughing. My. Ass Off. Some people just can't accept when they're wrong.

Yep, it's a blow to the rights of parents to parent.

But really, they shouldn't have the right to parent at this point....Oh right! It's not the right of the parent to parent, it's their job.

The song "Tried to kill the metal" comes to mind when I read this news post.

Jack Thompson tried to kill the games, but games crushed him with logic.
Michale Atkinson tried to kill the games, but games just waited for him to get old.
Leeland Yee tried to kill the games, but games put on their +5 legal armor and brought down the mighty banhammer!

He really should have seen his defeat coming, oh well. Who's next in line to try where others have failed. Keep em coming, we need more XP and phat lootz.

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You know what, I'm just gonna post the song as our victory tune. Just replace Metal and all who tried to kill it with games and the ilk that keep trying to kill it.

Nice response: Meeh whatever senator.

Id response: All I can say is that I hope this guy ends up as forgotten as Jack Thompson.

This is news?

I mean, you might as well make an article saying that the gaming industry is praising the win.

I don't know, seems like a waste to me.

Well, while we're on the subject, if the parents are so concerned about buying something for their kids that they might deem inappropriate, isn't the burden on them for not learning about it first?

If Senator Yee really felt that he wanted to help children, he might have considered spending public funds on teachers instead of on an 8 year long court case. I wonder how much this case has cost the state of California. Frankly I'd be interested to know how much money was spent just on legal fees. Anyone know?

"a blow to the rights of parents" what you mean in the sense that they are held accountable for there own children's mental and emotional well being.

Why bother reporting on the reactions of people whose reactions we could all pretty much fill in for ourselves at this point?

Seventh Actuality:
Why bother reporting on the reactions of people whose reactions we could all pretty much fill in for ourselves at this point?

Because we won and now we're savoring the deliciously salty tears of the politicians and overbearing parent organizations who were fool enough to waste millions in taxpayer dollars fighting for such a ridiculous bill.

So Yee has no problem with Corporate America driving illegal homeland security web seizures and propoganda which makes California owned Hollywood tons of money, but he has a problem with video games being treated like other media.

Okay...

I don't see how this is a blow to the rights of parents, unless of course he means the parents' right to not raise their children. If you don't want your kid playing GTA, don't buy it for them; if they buy it themselves somehow, take it off them and punish them; if they get a hold of another copy, don't blame the industry for it. If you can't take responsibility for raising a child then don't have one or put any existing spawn up for adoption, you'll have a whole lot of free time and save a crap load of money then! Of course you won't be able to play the 'disguntled parent' card when making stupid arguments.

I,m pretty sure he doesn,t know that there are some movies waay more violent then say Postal 2 or GTA. Kids saw them and turned out fine..... ass hat

Yes, millions of children will be molded into sick, twisted psychopathic killers bent on destruction through videogames. Mature videogames are rated 17 or 18 or 21 for a reason, they are not meant for kids. They will get them anyways. Weed is illegal, yet I don't see people stopping that anytime soon. It would not have changed much, just hurt the industry and set the game industry back a decade in their search for artistic recognition.

This guy is just funny though. It reminds me that when trains first were used as transportation, some people demanded that walls would have to be errected around the tracks as the immense speeds of trains (we're talking early day steam engine trains here) would surely drive anyone observing it into madness.
Way before that, books were despised by some greek philosophers who said that reading a book meant you will lose the ability to come up with your own ideas and to explore your own self. Obviously neither have happened. This is a new episode in the long line of "Technology=EVIL" debates that will go on long after we all have died. Luckily, our lifetimes will probably not be spend in insane asylums because we played Manhunt one time too often and murdered everyone in a Wal Mart with a stapler.

Someone slap a "Haters gonna hate" label on this then lets get back to trolling the parental groups.

Also when the affected children in this case are likely going to be the ones who were raised knowing only soft cushions, warm food and soap, its a loss i can support.

I'm suprised that they haven't begun saying that people use the game discs as a weapon.
Seriously why do they have such a 'won't somebody please think of the children' mentality?
It's the responsibility of the parents to control what happens in their house.

Oh, that is just funny, but I have a few words for Yee that go like this:

"Look, you poncy bastard, if you want to fight Walmart...fight Walmart. Games don't enter into it. Do what you want with the store, but leave gaming alone!"

There goes a very sad and unentertaining man.

Personally, I would have tried to remain dignified in defeat, but whatever; to each their own, Senator Yee.

"Wah wah wah, I lost." - Leland Yee.

Honestly, these folks need to accept a loss when they see one.

KeyMaster45:
The song "Tried to kill the metal" comes to mind when I read this news post.

Jack Thompson tried to kill the games, but games crushed him with logic.
Michale Atkinson tried to kill the games, but games just waited for him to get old.
Leeland Yee tried to kill the games, but games put on their +5 legal armor and brought down the mighty banhammer!

He really should have seen his defeat coming, oh well. Who's next in line to try where others have failed. Keep em coming, we need more XP and phat lootz.

-EDIT-
You know what, I'm just gonna post the song as our victory tune. Just replace Metal and all who tried to kill it with games and the ilk that keep trying to kill it.

Two words for you.

FUCK. YEAH!

just a side thing, but who wants to bet this guy has a bunch of kids he's refusing to take care of, so he spends his days and night going after game companies to ensure that he both doesn't have to deal with them, and that they hate his guts so they don't bother with him?

KeyMaster45:
The song "Tried to kill the metal" comes to mind when I read this news post.

Jack Thompson tried to kill the games, but games crushed him with logic.
Michale Atkinson tried to kill the games, but games just waited for him to get old.
Leeland Yee tried to kill the games, but games put on their +5 legal armor and brought down the mighty banhammer!

He really should have seen his defeat coming, oh well. Who's next in line to try where others have failed. Keep em coming, we need more XP and phat lootz.

-EDIT-
You know what, I'm just gonna post the song as our victory tune. Just replace Metal and all who tried to kill it with games and the ilk that keep trying to kill it.

please +5 legal armor? it was at least +10:)

"has forced the videogame industry to do a better job at appropriately rating these games."

GAH! For years, the videogame industry has been better and more complaint at rating their material than any other medium, you twit (so many other words I'd like to put in place of that one).

Andy Chalk:
and has forced the videogame industry to do a better job at appropriately rating these games."

Every game these days gets an M17+/18+... What more does this guy want?

PrinceofPersia:
Nice response: Meeh whatever senator.

Id response: All I can say is that I hope this guy ends up as forgotten as Jack Thompson.

True. Video game haters who don't know anything about games are, with their "ideals", heading to a historical unmarked grave. Thompson is already there, as is Clinton, I think; and Atkinson and Yee are heading down that path to be forgotten as well. Meanwhile, games will thrive, and laugh about the times when big politicans with brains the size of the heads of pins tried to bring down an innovative type of entertainment and art.

You know what people. Videogames are now art, now that they have the 1st amendment, so all these people are complaining about things that are not gonna change any time soon. image

seriously People. Just shut up and wait till the next big thing so you can hate on that, and say how corrupts the youth. If fact I have come up with a solution. Complain about something that people used to like but wont defend any more like Ferbies.

"As a result of their decision, Wal-Mart and the videogame industry will continue to make billions of dollars at the expense of our kids' mental health and the safety of our community," Yee said. "It is simply wrong that the videogame industry can be allowed to put their profit margins over the rights of parents and the well-being of children."

Dear Mr Yee, your implications seem to be that the rights of parents are higher than the rights of everyone else. Fuck You. Just because I do not choose to have a brood of brats, does not mean that my idiot neighbors with their six children that they are screwing up, not because of videogames, but because they are shite parents, should have yet another boundary set for them by the government.

Leland #token:0# Yee:
"certain that this eight-year legislative and legal battle has raised the consciousness of this issue for many parents and grandparents, and has forced the videogame industry to do a better job at appropriately rating these games."

Video games have been more or less appropriately rated since the huge outcry against the original Mortal Kombat back in 1993 which resulted in the establishment of the ESRB and similar organizations. Whether or not parents and grandparents actually pay any attention to the ratings handed down by these organizations however is another issue entirely. Perhaps you should've spent all that time and money you wasted on this bloody campaign of yours on educating said parents and grandparents about these ratings instead.

Those poor, defenseless parents. Can't do anything to stop their kids from buying violent games, and they can't most certainly explain to children how those things aren't real, and how they don't affect minds..

I first played turok seeds of evil when I was 5yrs old. I now have a well paying job, a college degree on the way, and a decent bank account. I now question the actual impact of games on the mentality of children. There are people who are crazy but it may not be the games that make them so.

Sme people don't know when to quit. His language of moral panic seems much more funny after the highest court in the whole of the US gave him a legal pimp-slap and basically told him, in no uncertain terms, that he could not be more wrong.

KeyMaster45:

Seventh Actuality:
Why bother reporting on the reactions of people whose reactions we could all pretty much fill in for ourselves at this point?

Because we won and now we're savoring the deliciously salty tears of the politicians and overbearing parent organizations who were fool enough to waste millions in taxpayer dollars fighting for such a ridiculous bill.

You hit it right on the money there KeyMaster. I am enjoying this like the depraved follower of Slaanesh that I am. I love that fact that this bill was shot down and slammed by seven out of nine judges on the hill. This gives our media protection and those git politicians and parent groups no true leg to stand on now. And honestly? I hope California has to pay back every single cent that this trial cost the EMA.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have souls and tears to feast on~

Andy Chalk:
California Senator and notorious videogame hater Leland Yee says today's Supreme Court decision granting First Amendment protection to games is a blow to the rights of parents and the safety of our communities.

The only right parents didn't get with this ruling is the right to not have to raise their children properly. Now they actually have to keep a close eye on their children's hobbies, those poor deprived parents. If doing so is so much of a burden, they shouldn't have had children in the first place.

Who the fuck cares? The case is over, video games are here to stay. Let's be on with our lives for fuck's sake...

Oh, and it's not the developers', publishers' or retailers' fault of some jackass kid playing something like (gods forbid on so many levels) BMX XXX and them not knowing what the hell is going on. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they had to get their grimy little hands on such a game game from somewhere, or rather, from someone...

Andy Chalk:
Yet in spite of all the time and money wasted, Yee was determined to put a positive spin on the loss, saying he is "certain that this eight-year legislative and legal battle has [...] forced the videogame industry to do a better job at appropriately rating these games."

No, it's... pretty much the same as it has been for years.

The only way the industry could really do a better job is if rating a game 18+ (AO) doesn't effectively ban it from sale. Video games need an 18+ rating, just like movies have.

What about parents who want to play violent video games? Ones who have difficulty walking and give their 16 year olds money to go to the store and pick them up for them. Seem like their rights would have gone right out the window.

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