Star Wars Galaxies Players Start Petition to Stop Closure

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Star Wars Galaxies Players Start Petition to Stop Closure

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Players implore LucasArts and SOE to make the game free-to-play, rather than shut it down for good.

Following the announcement that Sony Online Entertainment and LucasArts were pulling the plug on Star Wars Galaxies, some of its players have started a petition asking reconsider their decision. SWG launched in 2003, and has had a turbulent history ever since, with player numbers reportedly falling to just a few thousand.

The petition, which at time of writing had amassed more than 2,500 signatures, offers a number of solutions on how SWG might be saved, including making it a free-to-play game, monetizing the trading card game, and consolidating servers with free transfers. The petition acknowledges that there's another Star Wars MMO in the works - in the form of BioWare's The Old Republic - but says that the two can co-exist, especially as SWG is set closer to the movies, and thus represents a much more familiar Star Wars experience.

Taking the game F2P might not be such a bad idea: Many developers have found that MMOs are much more profitable under the F2P model. While SWG's player base may be small, going F2P could give it the boost it needs to get it going again. Unfortunately, while the petitioners might think that Star Wars Galaxies and The Old Republic can co-exist, LucasArts will probably be a lot less keen. It's going to be tough enough for The Old Republic to compete against the likes of World of Warcraft, without having to contend with another Star Wars MMO as well.

Source: Venture Beat

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Players petitioned SOE to cancel the NGE as well... Look how well that went...

We've seen how SOE deals with protests on SW:G before. It involves teleporting them into space.

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Can't see it happening - the issue as far as I'm aware is that they need to renew their ability to use the Star Wars license.

On a side-note: if TOR is F2P I will be fucking pissed.

Yeah, but it's not going to do any good.

It's an unfortunate state of affairs, but it's irreversible as well. I don't think they made this decision lightly.

A Haiku from my experiences...
Galaxies is lame
Butterflies killed my Wookie
I'm not buying this

I'm always amazed at the determination of a game's fan base when a company decides it's time to move on. It's like the guys who kept playing after they shut down the Halo 2 server so it could stay alive for a few more days.

In the end, this is the problem I have with MMOs. A serious player has paid hundreds of dollars in subscription costs, and now? They'll have nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Not a single bit of content will be available to these people once the servers close.

I just can't justify spending that much money when I know I will have nothing in the end.

I have to admire their loyalty to the game after all the crap Sony has put them through. Hell if I were them I'd be so stoked that someone that's not Sony was putting out a new SW MMO that in the months leading to the game's closure I would actively start trying to find out how little a crap the GM's could give about player behavior.

Arachon:
Players petitioned SOE to cancel the NGE as well... Look how well that went...

I was gonna say.... I remember the petition to reverse the combat upgrade..... then I remember actually signing the petition for the NGE, which got signatures from practically every player of the game.

And did it change a thing? Not at all.

All in all, this game has been dead for a VERY LONG TIME. Let it rest in peace, before it mutates any more than it already has.

Good luck to them. Not sure why they want to rscue that game, but if they'd rather it stayed then who knows? I can't understand why making it F2P could potentially rescue an only barely-alive game but with successfull F2P games out there, maybe it could work. Perhaps it'll just end up running on some private servers.

If people dig playing the game, let them keep playing. I personally never got that into it, but if peeps dig it that's cool.

Already a bit late on this. Sony has already come back and stated that the closing down of the game is already happening behind the scenes. It is dead.

Krantos:
In the end, this is the problem I have with MMOs. A serious player has paid hundreds of dollars in subscription costs, and now? They'll have nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Not a single bit of content will be available to these people once the servers close.

I just can't justify spending that much money when I know I will have nothing in the end.

Sadly, this is how I look at things after three and a half years with Final Fantasy 11. I enjoyed the game, but in the end I realized that all I would have left many years down the line would be memories, so I stopped playing and am extremely hesitant on MMOs now. Still hoping for a single player remake one day though.

Citizen Snips:
I'm always amazed at the determination of a game's fan base when a company decides it's time to move on.

Cool username dude, and avatar. Futurama fan?

rsvp42:
Yeah, but it's not going to do any good.

It's an unfortunate state of affairs, but it's irreversible as well. I don't think they made this decision lightly.

Well spotted sir. Both the article posted here at The Escapist and the one you linked are today's date. It's amusing that the petition is both reported and shot down simultaneously.

Change of topic then...has anyone been subbed to an MMO when you found out it was going to close? Did you stay till the end? Do you miss it? What did you think of "the end"?

Krantos:
In the end, this is the problem I have with MMOs. A serious player has paid hundreds of dollars in subscription costs, and now? They'll have nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Not a single bit of content will be available to these people once the servers close.

I just can't justify spending that much money when I know I will have nothing in the end.

Pretty much this, it's just a very scary thought.

Although i've spent an absurd amount of money in FFXI i've stopped playing, so should the servers ever come down it wouldn't hit me as hard as someone who still plays regularly. It's the fans that get screwed in the end every time.

Logan Westbrook:
Star Wars Galaxies Players Start Petition to Stop Closure

You're right. LucasArts wouldn't have gone for it. If they can't wring any more cash out of SWG, they want to be sure that all those adoring fans have nowhere to go but TOR. And everyone will cheer, because "at least it's not Sony," but then they'll realize, in time, that LucasArts has really been the problem all along.

And Zombie-Lucas will continue his rampage, feeding off the corpse of his former greatness.

Krantos:
In the end, this is the problem I have with MMOs. A serious player has paid hundreds of dollars in subscription costs, and now? They'll have nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Not a single bit of content will be available to these people once the servers close.

I just can't justify spending that much money when I know I will have nothing in the end.

That's not really any different than with any other game though. It may be a bigger investment all focused on a single title but, other than memories, do you really have any permanent lasting reward from, say, Super Mario?

You mean ... all five of them? *gasp*

I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Why would they still want to play Galaxies when they could play Old Republic in a short time?

Krantos:
In the end, this is the problem I have with MMOs. A serious player has paid hundreds of dollars in subscription costs, and now? They'll have nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Not a single bit of content will be available to these people once the servers close.

I just can't justify spending that much money when I know I will have nothing in the end.

Do you feel the same way about steam?

Better yet, tell them to support the EMU communities and give them their damn code that they "lost" so we can have our pre-CU servers.

deth2munkies:
Better yet, tell them to support the EMU communities and give them their damn code that they "lost" so we can have our pre-CU servers.

You know, in a way, it's strangely fitting, though, isn't it?

Fans: "We don't like the enhanced Star Wars! Give us back the original version!"
Lucas: "I can't... I sorta drew on it..."

Fans: "Give the source code to the EMU projects so they can let us play your now-dead game!"
SOE: "We can't... we sorta deleted it all..."

StriderShinryu:

Krantos:
In the end, this is the problem I have with MMOs. A serious player has paid hundreds of dollars in subscription costs, and now? They'll have nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Not a single bit of content will be available to these people once the servers close.

I just can't justify spending that much money when I know I will have nothing in the end.

That's not really any different than with any other game though. It may be a bigger investment all focused on a single title but, other than memories, do you really have any permanent lasting reward from, say, Super Mario?

But you still own the physical title Super Mario, so if you ever wanted to you could re-experience the game, unlike if a MMO gets shutdown you can no longer play that title again.... EVER.

Flying Dagger:

Krantos:
In the end, this is the problem I have with MMOs. A serious player has paid hundreds of dollars in subscription costs, and now? They'll have nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Not a single bit of content will be available to these people once the servers close.

I just can't justify spending that much money when I know I will have nothing in the end.

Do you feel the same way about steam?

Well even if the steam service shutdown people still have all the games on their physical hard drive so you'd still be able to play them. I'm sure that steam would release fixes for the games so they no longer require steam, or you could play offline and use Hamachi or such for multiplayer.

StriderShinryu:

Krantos:
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That's not really any different than with any other game though. It may be a bigger investment all focused on a single title but, other than memories, do you really have any permanent lasting reward from, say, Super Mario?

I can still play it. I still have the physical property. Also the difference in cost between the two is astronomical.

Flying Dagger:

Krantos:
Snip

Do you feel the same way about steam?

To a degree. I never buy full priced titles on steam. I only use it for the sales. However, the fundamental difference is that most games I have on Steam can be played Offline. So if and when the system does go down, I'll still have at least three quarters of my library.

The way I see is this. If I pay a monthly subscription, I'm required to keep paying it if I want my content. If I stop at any time, I am unable to access anything until I start paying again. Then, after the game has run it's course and died, I never have the access, regardless of how much I've paid. In the end you end up paying 10x as much for content you'll never be able to see again. At that point I'd rather just buy a traditional game and keep it forever.

deth2munkies:
Better yet, tell them to support the EMU communities and give them their damn code that they "lost" so we can have our pre-CU servers.

THIS.
Although the EMU thing has been dragging for years, there's not much motivation behind it anymore. SOE releasing code would certainly be a nice jump start for it though.

I doubt this will work, it's prolly a licening issue more then anything. SoE doesn't own the rights to starwars but leases it, and since TOR is coming out soon, L.A. may not have renewed the rights to use the Star Wars brand to Sony. Or Sony doesn't want to PAY for that right in a F2P model of bussiness, as it prolly wouldn't generate enough revinue to make it profitable.

Which is, sadly, the name of the game. I played about 2-3 years of SWG. 2 right up frount, before the MASSIVE nerfing/redesign. And one and off for about a years worth of time after that. (played a few months about a year ago for a starwars fix... totally different game.) It was fun. At the start, I was a rifleman/creaturehunter... crawling into a rancor nest was... epic. Then the creature handler litilerly got nerfed out of existince.... not as much fun after that, though i do have to say, the 2 or 3 months i took a year back to play and level a jedi was FUN... just... well... i was despised for being one of *them* jedi... the servers were dead... and thus the higer end group content was unplayable... only so many nigh sister i could kill looking for "phat loot". *shrug*

Woodsey:
On a side-note: if TOR is F2P I will be fucking pissed.

Why? That is one of the payment models, besides P2P or microtransactions, that is available to Bioware. Let them decide what they want to do.

Really? I'm a little sad to hear SWG is closing down. I played from 03 til the NGE from 05, it was my first MMO and the one I had the most fun playing. It was buggy and there was dearth of content, but the sandbox elements were a joy as was the community. After the NGE, the community was gone and the game became a shitty version of the standard MMO X. I resubbed a few times for a couple months, but it was never the same. I think the fans should recognize its time to let it die as that is what has been decided, they can still play with their online friends in other games. If we learned anything from the LA/SOE partnership, it should be that they will do what they want irrespective of the players' wishes.

Reyalsfeihc:

StriderShinryu:

Krantos:
In the end, this is the problem I have with MMOs. A serious player has paid hundreds of dollars in subscription costs, and now? They'll have nothing. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Not a single bit of content will be available to these people once the servers close.

I just can't justify spending that much money when I know I will have nothing in the end.

That's not really any different than with any other game though. It may be a bigger investment all focused on a single title but, other than memories, do you really have any permanent lasting reward from, say, Super Mario?

But you still own the physical title Super Mario, so if you ever wanted to you could re-experience the game, unlike if a MMO gets shutdown you can no longer play that title again.... EVER.

You can play it as long as you have the required hardware to play it. In the case of an MMO, once it shuts down you no longer have the required hardware. It may not come in the same form, but the connection aspect of MMOs is always something understood to be needed. In fact, it says just that in the EULA and account creation process of pretty much every, if not every, MMO.

Quaxar:
You mean ... all five of them? *gasp*

I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Why would they still want to play Galaxies when they could play Old Republic in a short time?

Galaxies and UO are the only real big sandbox MMOs left. KOTOR will be a WoW clone. You level - get equipment - but you aren't given a sandbox to play in.

There are a few of us out there that long for the old school MMO where you exist in a world. Instead since WoW all we get are equipment/achievement/level grind games.

NGE ruined SWG. But even in it's current state SWG still had an open world where you could be your own character living in a Star Wars universe. The new one coming out you get to play a character basically from the movies and follow the treadmill.

Sad really. But perhaps in the current gaming environment of Call of Duty 15 and kids wanting that instant fix me and others like me need to move on.

No amount of petitioning will bring it back; Lucas-Arts cannot afford to maintain a conflict of interests if they want their cut of TOR to mean something.

The old Star Wars MMO is going to die and nothing will stop that now.

WHy keep the old game rnning while the players can just transition into the new and better one.
I dont think SW fans are so rich that they can afford to play the 2 of them at the same time. And that also would make it hard for them to progress.

people still play star wars galaxies and care about it enough to start a petition? wow.

speaking of wow, im not so sure wow is the huge giant it used to be. in my experience, a lot of wow players have moved over to rift. the fact that the fanbase is now split, could mean that other mmos actually stand a chance now

Haha, it's still around?? I played it, waiting for the moment "force sensitives" would be implimented like everyone else, thinking it was going to be some mysterious selection of players on each server, and a lot thought they'd be selected if they roleplayed so there was no "txt speak" or a lot of griefing or crowds shouting stupid shit in the chat window.

Then they announced that people would become force sensitive if they collected 3 holocrons and did a grind of mastering the profession each one told them. That's when the first mass exodus happened and after a year of playing and waiting I was too pissed to continue and canceled along with many thousands of others.

Quaxar:
You mean ... all five of them? *gasp*

I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Why would they still want to play Galaxies when they could play Old Republic in a short time?

Cause they already tried WoW and didn't like it.

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