Relic Could Help Out on Warhammer 40k MMO

Relic Could Help Out on Warhammer 40k MMO

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If Vigil needs a hand with its Warhammer 40k MMO, Relic will gladly offer it once it's finished making Space Marine.

Vancouver-based studio Relic Entertainment has been the belle of the Warhammer 40k ball in recent years. It's made the solid Dawn of War RTS games, and its current project is the impressive-looking Space Marine, which isn't nearly as generic as the title might lead the uninitiated to believe. But despite having the most experience with the 40k license in the videogame biz, Relic isn't working on the Warhammer 40k MMO, Dark Millennium Online - that's the job of Darksiders developer Vigil Games.

Relic and Vigil are both owned by THQ, however, and given Relic's experience working in the Warhammer 40k world, though, it only makes sense for one studio to lend the other a hand. That's according to Relic marketing manager James McDermott, who told Eurogamer that Relic would be willing to help Vigil if needed - once it was finished with Space Marine, of course.

That's not to say that the two games will tie in with each other. "There's no crossover narrative," said McDermott. Still, he said, Vigil was "definitely interacting with us a lot because we have a pedigree and an understanding of the IP, which they're trying to develop."

Vigil also took some pointers when it came to the game's combat, he said. "In terms of the some of the core mechanics, they were looking at our combat system quite carefully at one point to see if they could try and make it - not the same - but just have some level of consistency. That's definitely been a consideration."

Once Space Marine ships this September, though, Relic might take a more active consulting role on Dark Millennium. "We just on the whole try to work as collaboratively as possible, and with Space Marine wrapping up, we may become more involved in just helping them on a day to day basis with some things as we move forward."

I'm pretty sure there's probably some 40k quote about how "banding together in the eyes of the Emperor makes us stronger" or some such like that. However, given that my knowledge of Warhammer 40k pretty much boils down to "one group of assholes fights ten other groups of assholes for control of a really crappy universe," I'm going to let you guys quote it for me in the comment thread. Thanks, guys!

(Eurogamer)

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John Funk:
Once Space Marine ships this September, though, Runic might take a more active consulting role

Now you're just making things up. :P

RhombusHatesYou:

John Funk:
Once Space Marine ships this September, though, Runic might take a more active consulting role

Now you're just making things up. :P

Nope. Torchlight developer Runic will indeed be *coming out of nowhere* to ensure that Dark Millennium Online has all the Diablo-style click-click-click action that it needs.

Or, rather, that could have been a typo. Thanks for the catch!

Could you imagine a Runic style 40k game? I actually think it would work!

so in other words, more Blood Ravens. which actually im surprised they arn't shown in Space Marine.

John Funk:

RhombusHatesYou:

John Funk:
Once Space Marine ships this September, though, Runic might take a more active consulting role

Now you're just making things up. :P

Nope. Torchlight developer Runic will indeed be *coming out of nowhere* to ensure that Dark Millennium Online has all the Diablo-style click-click-click action that it needs.

Or, rather, that could have been a typo. Thanks for the catch!

Coincidentally, that could make for a pretty fun game.

John Funk:
"one group of assholes fights ten other groups of assholes for control of a really crappy universe,"

I giggled immensely. This is the single funniest view on WH40k I have heard in quite a long time.

This news somewhat displeases me though, Relic being famous for sucking at balance and MMO's in the same sentence makes me want to bury my head in the sand and pretend I didn't read it.

John Funk:
I'm pretty sure there's probably some 40k quote about how "banding together in the eyes of the Emperor makes us stronger" or some such like that. However, given that my knowledge of Warhammer 40k pretty much boils down to "one group of assholes fights ten other groups of assholes for control of a really crappy universe," I'm going to let you guys quote it for me in the comment thread. Thanks, guys!

Here you go -

Brothers! This day we make our stand! We stand against the tide, boldly facing the horror! We are brothers united against the darkness, and we shall not fall!

That's all well and good, Relic, but when are you going to make more Homeworld?

Lyri:

John Funk:
"one group of assholes fights ten other groups of assholes for control of a really crappy universe,"

I giggled immensely. This is the single funniest view on WH40k I have heard in quite a long time.

Yet startlingly accurate.

I don't know if I'm reading this right, but THQ just sound like total bros.

EDIT: Also Funk, I just realised what your title was a reference to. U.N. Slam was Jam is pretty hilarious btw.

AbundantRedundancy:
That's all well and good, Relic, but when are you going to make more Homeworld?

This. And then more of this. And some more.

As someone who doesn't play MMOs, this news doesn't really interest me that much, but it's nice to see Relic offering a helping hand like that. Other developers take note - we need more cooperation in today's industry!

I can't believe this did not occur to me before, but considering its unlikely we will ever get another Homeworld game it would be awesome if Relic made a Battlefleet Gothic game. The more I think about it the more it makes sense.

Skizle:
so in other words, more Blood Ravens. which actually im surprised they arn't shown in Space Marine.

There is a Blood Ravens skin DLC included with the steam preorder. So you can stop to be surprised. =p

SHOW ME WHAT PASSES FOR game development credentials AMONGST YOUR MISBEGOTTEN KIND

Leftnt Sharpe:
Battlefleet Gothic game

And saliva was spilt.

I can't wait to play Dark Millenium Online!... once it goes free to play.

It may well be a crappy universe but we will fight for it anyway. Principle of the matter and all.

Skizle:
so in other words, more Blood Ravens. which actually im surprised they arn't shown in Space Marine.

more bood ravens could be a good thing, as they aren't one of GW's own chapters of space marines relic have had more freedom to play around with their fluff without worrying about clashing with pre-existing fluff for established chapters.

also yay relic, they seem like such nice fellows. must be cos they're canadians, or is that cadians....

Skizle:
so in other words, more Blood Ravens. which actually im surprised they arn't shown in Space Marine.

Yeah, there's nothing more retarded than drawing attention to your companies products...

OT: I think THQs top brass would prefer "The loyal slave learns to love the lash."

Leftnt Sharpe:
I can't believe this did not occur to me before, but considering its unlikely we will ever get another Homeworld game it would be awesome if Relic made a Battlefleet Gothic game. The more I think about it the more it makes sense.

Oh shits, that would be fantastic! Thinking about it now, why hasn't anyone tried to make a BFG game? Hell, the guys who made Star Trek Bridge Commander did a good job, so Relic can.

RT-Medic-with-shotgun:
It may well be a crappy universe but we will fight for it anyway. Principle of the matter and all.

Well to be fair their aren't any other universes that the imperium could move to, crappy or otherwise. Unless the warp counts as a universe, but they'd all be completely screwed there anyway.

John Funk:
"banding together in the eyes of the Emperor makes us stronger"

Ehh... I'm not too big a fan of the forces of the Imperium myself. The Eldar are where it's at for me (my tabletop forces), closely followed by Chaos (original Dawn of War series). I didn't like DoW2 largely because of the shift away from base-building and more towards individual units. Not my speed at all.

John Funk:
"one group of assholes fights ten other groups of assholes for control of a really crappy universe,"

Pretty much, though some people aren't as big an asshole race as others. Chaos, for example, has much more assholery than the Orks. The former is into all sorts of crazy depraved stuff - more so if you look at Slaanesh, Chaos God of Pleasure - while the Orks live to fight, plain and simple.

Lyri:

John Funk:
"one group of assholes fights ten other groups of assholes for control of a really crappy universe,"

I giggled immensely. This is the single funniest view on WH40k I have heard in quite a long time.

This news somewhat displeases me though, Relic being famous for sucking at balance and MMO's in the same sentence makes me want to bury my head in the sand and pretend I didn't read it.

This^. I actually have far more faith in Vigil than I do in Relic. Tyranids were hideously overpowered in the singleplayer campaign of Retribution.

Skizle:
so in other words, more Blood Ravens. which actually im surprised they arn't shown in Space Marine.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing a bit more love shown to the other chapters of the space marines to be honest: Eg. Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Imperial Fists etc.

Infernai:

Skizle:
so in other words, more Blood Ravens. which actually im surprised they arn't shown in Space Marine.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing a bit more love shown to the other chapters of the space marines to be honest: Eg. Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Imperial Fists etc.

The thing about the Blood Angels and Space Wolves is that they have genetic problems (the Flaw and the Beast Within, respectively), and those are kinda difficult to apply to a game like Dawn of War or Dark Millennium where all of the Space Marine units and skills are identical and the only difference between Chapters is a name and palette swap. The Blood Ravens' desire to hoard information, as a result of not knowing who their Primarch is, is kinda mentioned in Dawn of War 2, but that's about it. It doesn't have impact on gameplay.

If you want to go with a different Chapter, for the love of God, do not pick the Ultramarines. They are the Blandy McBlandersons of the Imperium. I would go with the Dark Angels myself, though their uniform is different from other Chapters (the robes and all that).

Folix:

Skizle:
so in other words, more Blood Ravens. which actually im surprised they arn't shown in Space Marine.

more bood ravens could be a good thing, as they aren't one of GW's own chapters of space marines relic have had more freedom to play around with their fluff without worrying about clashing with pre-existing fluff for established chapters.

also yay relic, they seem like such nice fellows. must be cos they're canadians, or is that cadians....

They are Canadian Cadians, deadlier than the corpse emperor himself.

RelexCryo:
This^. I actually have far more faith in Vigil than I do in Relic. Tyranids were hideously overpowered in the singleplayer campaign of Retribution.

It's not so much their single player balance that bothers me, it's their inability to balance out multiplayer.
I remember when Dark Crusade first came out and Tau could straight up win fights in 5 minutes thanks to Tau Commander & Vespid combination. They could harass so incredibly well that they just rofl stomped over your economy.
A squad of kroot or a fire squad would end the game for you.

The Necrons also couldn't be stopped either, Tau players who where rolling everyone just whined all day about the Necrons ability to face roll them. Them and everyone else.
It was frankly hilarious to watch a single Necron squad slowly march towards an enemy only to get in range whilst under fire and proceed to decimate them.

Stuff like this in an MMO is just unsettling.

Skizle:
so in other words, more Blood Ravens.

I kinda like the fluff they've been building up around the Blood Ravens. If the scuttlebutt around the internet is to believed, they may have a very interesting origin story.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Blood_Ravens Just skip to the end and read the final speculative article on the origins of their gene-seed.

OT: I have the utmost belief in Relic. DoW1 and DoW2 were very different games, but they both shined equally bright. Relic are A-OK in my book.

Dirty Apple:
I kinda like the fluff they've been building up around the Blood Ravens. If the scuttlebutt around the internet is to believed, they may have a very interesting origin story.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Blood_Ravens Just skip to the end and read the final speculative article on the origins of their gene-seed.

OT: I have the utmost belief in Relic. DoW1 and DoW2 were very different games, but they both shined equally bright. Relic are A-OK in my book.

That's a fun read. The concept and possibilities are intriguing.

Not sure where I read it, might have been Gamespot. But I think that the only "class" you will get to play in Dark Millennium is that of the Inquisition. It might include the Grey Knights, if we are lucky enough.

Folix:

Skizle:
so in other words, more Blood Ravens. which actually im surprised they arn't shown in Space Marine.

more bood ravens could be a good thing, as they aren't one of GW's own chapters of space marines relic have had more freedom to play around with their fluff without worrying about clashing with pre-existing fluff for established chapters.

also yay relic, they seem like such nice fellows. must be cos they're canadians, or is that cadians....

Keep in mind that *SPOILER ALERT* the Blood Ravens are probably no longer the Blood Ravens. If you play through DoW Retribution as Space Marines they basically start up a new chapter at the end with Gabriel Angelos as the new Chapter Master.

Lyri:

RelexCryo:
This^. I actually have far more faith in Vigil than I do in Relic. Tyranids were hideously overpowered in the singleplayer campaign of Retribution.

It's not so much their single player balance that bothers me, it's their inability to balance out multiplayer.
I remember when Dark Crusade first came out and Tau could straight up win fights in 5 minutes thanks to Tau Commander & Vespid combination. They could harass so incredibly well that they just rofl stomped over your economy.
A squad of kroot or a fire squad would end the game for you.

The Necrons also couldn't be stopped either, Tau players who where rolling everyone just whined all day about the Necrons ability to face roll them. Them and everyone else.
It was frankly hilarious to watch a single Necron squad slowly march towards an enemy only to get in range whilst under fire and proceed to decimate them.

Stuff like this in an MMO is just unsettling.

sounds like they would be helping with lore more then anything else.

 

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