Heroic Bungie Employee Makes Legendary Citizen's Arrest

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man that is -blam!- awesome :D

The best part of this situation? Fletcher was wearing an Admiral Ackbar shirt the whole time.

LOL...not gonna make an "it's a trap!" reference :p

Forerunners made Humans and Elites, Dr. Halsey made them equal. ;P

Eh, I'm not actually that wowed by this dudes heroics. This reminds me of that thing where a burger king was robbed by an armed gunman and a customer with a gun shot the criminal, stopping the crime and it was hailed as proof of the greatness of America's loose gun control.

But in reality a man died, the customer himself was shot and the lives of everyone in the resteraunt were endangered to save a few hundred bucks.

Anyway, back to this case, I think it's a similar thing, lives were endangered to save a bank some money. Though it is slightly different since the robber had already shot someone, though that situation was different to just shooting everyone in the bank, since the someone who died had already pulled a gun.

Yeah, I'm gonna call it, this went well but it could of gone horribly, this guy got lucky, it was a bad risk.

sir.rutthed:
Smart criminal. Bungie guy's pistol probably had a scope anyways. You know he's packing the Halo: CE model.

True that, That gun would ruin whatever piece the criminal had.

OT: Why was he driving around with his friend carrying handcuffs? I only knew 1 non law enforcement person that did that and well... I shall say no more about him.

Norris IV:

sir.rutthed:
Smart criminal. Bungie guy's pistol probably had a scope anyways. You know he's packing the Halo: CE model.

True that, That gun would ruin whatever piece the criminal had.

OT: Why was he driving around with his friend carrying handcuffs? I only knew 1 non law enforcement person that did that and well... I shall say no more about him.

Yeah, hadn't actually thought of that, but going around with handcuffs? How... kinky.

Huh, I guess I do get along with Bungie on something :)

And people says video games cause violence. Preposterous.

And he did it all without MJOLNIR!
What, he didn't even teabag the guy?
Good thing the bad guy didn't run, they would have chased him down in a Mongoose!
...
I got millions of these.

TheDarkEricDraven:
And he did it all without MJOLNIR!
What, he didn't even teabag the guy?
Good thing the bad guy didn't run, they would have chased him down in a Mongoose!
...
I got millions of these.

Can I join?

Looks like that crooks going to court-ana

orangeban:

TheDarkEricDraven:
And he did it all without MJOLNIR!
What, he didn't even teabag the guy?
Good thing the bad guy didn't run, they would have chased him down in a Mongoose!
...
I got millions of these.

Can I join?

Looks like that crooks going to court-ana

He is guilty for sure, but maybe he will be penitent. If not, they don't wear halos where he is going.

teebeeohh:
before people start saying how awesome it is to carry guns to do stuff like this: he is a trained professional, i do support people like him carrying guns.

Damn straight. If anyone noticed, he could legally carry a concealed weapon. I wouldn't try to carry my gun without a card in my wallet and the training I've received.

Kargathia:

Andy Chalk:
I guess I'll be the first one to take the position that anybody who drives around in his spare time carrying a concealed gun and handcuffs is probably kind of an asshole.

You beat me to it, so you're indeed the first one. I guess that it's pretty much the good ol' debate as to how strict you want gun licencing to be.

But whatever the rules are: carrying a concealed gun is not going to get you any bonus points with me.

...unless of course you're the guy getting robbed or about to get murdered when some guy carrying a concealed handgun, legally, notices your situation.

Better yet, get your own permit and training and protect yourself. Much better plan than counting on someone else. Shooting at a range is also a fantastic stress reliever.

orangeban:
Eh, I'm not actually that wowed by this dudes heroics. This reminds me of that thing where a burger king was robbed by an armed gunman and a customer with a gun shot the criminal, stopping the crime and it was hailed as proof of the greatness of America's loose gun control.

But in reality a man died, the customer himself was shot and the lives of everyone in the resteraunt were endangered to save a few hundred bucks.

Anyway, back to this case, I think it's a similar thing, lives were endangered to save a bank some money. Though it is slightly different since the robber had already shot someone, though that situation was different to just shooting everyone in the bank, since the someone who died had already pulled a gun.

Yeah, I'm gonna call it, this went well but it could of gone horribly, this guy got lucky, it was a bad risk.

The story doesn't say what the situation was between the first two men. Perhaps the guy who was shot was actually being robbed? It being a parking lot of a bank and all. Without that information you can't really pass judgement on the guy who was SHOT simply because he pulled a gun. Why does it even matter? The man the Bungie employee stopped SHOT A MAN. Would you like the guy who shot you to wonder off a never be caught?

You have no idea what the intentions of the shooter were. He was approaching the Bungie guy with a fucking gun after shooting a man. Would you just run away, lay down and curl up into a ball? Fuck that. The Bungie guy acted purely within the confines of law and did the right thing.

TheDarkEricDraven:

orangeban:

TheDarkEricDraven:
And he did it all without MJOLNIR!
What, he didn't even teabag the guy?
Good thing the bad guy didn't run, they would have chased him down in a Mongoose!
...
I got millions of these.

Can I join?

Looks like that crooks going to court-ana

He is guilty for sure, but maybe he will be penitent. If not, they don't wear halos where he is going.

THIS! IS! SEATTLE!

...Whoops, wrong Spartans.

MajorDolphin:

...unless of course you're the guy getting robbed or about to get murdered when some guy carrying a concealed handgun, legally, notices your situation.

Better yet, get your own permit and training and protect yourself. Much better plan than counting on someone else. Shooting at a range is also a fantastic stress reliever.

Let's just bypass the minor detail that I'm living in a country where you can't get a licence to carry - concealed or otherwise - and hop straight away to the principle part.

No. If I ever sufficiently feel threatened on a daily basis I'll start training judo again (and probably throw in jiu-jitsu this time), but carrying a gun definitely crosses the boundary between "able to defend yourself" and "able to inflict disproportionate amounts of physical harm".

Dudes should have known that It's a Trap!

Pretty sure someones already done that, but fuck em I wanted too!

And Bungie saves the day! I know what headquarters I'm heading to in a zombie apocalypse... I mean, all their employees are packing heat and know how to use it!

Kargathia:

Let's just bypass the minor detail that I'm living in a country where you can't get a licence to carry - concealed or otherwise - and hop straight away to the principle part.

No. If I ever sufficiently feel threatened on a daily basis I'll start training judo again (and probably throw in jiu-jitsu this time), but carrying a gun definitely crosses the boundary between "able to defend yourself" and "able to inflict disproportionate amounts of physical harm".

Having been someone who has been in a situation where a concealed carry weapon likely saved my life I can't imagine why people feel safe 'since you can't get a gun' well I got news you can't get a gone legally, and you know who doesn't care about laws? Criminals. So at the end of the day the criminals have the guns and you don't.

And before you ask it was when I was six and it was an attempted car jacking I was in the back seat and the guy decided he didn't want to steal our car once he saw the pistol my father drew.

synobal:

Kargathia:

Let's just bypass the minor detail that I'm living in a country where you can't get a licence to carry - concealed or otherwise - and hop straight away to the principle part.

No. If I ever sufficiently feel threatened on a daily basis I'll start training judo again (and probably throw in jiu-jitsu this time), but carrying a gun definitely crosses the boundary between "able to defend yourself" and "able to inflict disproportionate amounts of physical harm".

Having been someone who has been in a situation where a concealed carry weapon likely saved my life I can't imagine why people feel safe 'since you can't get a gun' well I got news you can't get a gone legally, and you know who doesn't care about laws? Criminals. So at the end of the day the criminals have the guns and you don't.

And before you ask it was when I was six and it was an attempted car jacking I was in the back seat and the guy decided he didn't want to steal our car once he saw the pistol my father drew.

People here don't feel safe because "you can't get a gun", they feel safer because it's relatively hard to get one, and there aren't a multitude of people legally carrying high-powered lethal weapons around.
You definitely can get your hands on a gun here if you'd want to. Gun crime is relatively rare, but it certainly exists.

On a personal level I simply view it as way out of whack with the threat level. Call me simple-minded, but I'd rather stick to a very simple reasoning: you only ever threaten somebody with a weapon if you're ready to use it. Anything less is an irresponsible use of power.
And while you might consider yourself in lethal danger if your car is getting stolen: I don't, and I'm certainly not ready to kill somebody, merely because he's mugging me.

orangeban:
Eh, I'm not actually that wowed by this dudes heroics. This reminds me of that thing where a burger king was robbed by an armed gunman and a customer with a gun shot the criminal, stopping the crime and it was hailed as proof of the greatness of America's loose gun control.

I sorta agree with you, but for different reasons. Not to take away from the bravery of his actions, or claim he was wrong to do so, but he was a trained seurity guard, and he was armed.

Is that not the sort of thing you expect trained and armed security guards to be able to do? One step down from "police catch criminal"...it's a good thing, certainly, but hardly "legendary".

Kargathia:

And while you might consider yourself in lethal danger if your car is getting stolen: I don't, and I'm certainly not ready to kill somebody, merely because he's mugging me.

So you think it's less of a gamble that a criminal won't blow your brains out or give you a columbian necktie, than to carry a weapon and if needed use it? Also you'll find that most gun crime doesn't happen with people who can legally carry.

Also my father was certainly ready to use it but you can't shoot a man in a back when he goes to run away nor do you simply draw and fire in such a situation. Criminals don't like guns and you'll find most of them like gun control laws.

LorienvArden:

danpascooch:

Given the circumstances I just described I'd be saluting him even if he got his head blown off.

Since it is legal for him to carry a concealed firearm, I wouldn't delve further into this issue. The handcuffs ? Well, kinda odd that he had some around, but they wheren't really integral to the story. Once the gunmen dropped his weapon and got on the ground, he surrendered anyway. Without cuffs Fletcher would have had a harder time controling him, but if you have a good friend with you to keep an eye out and call the police, it's an easy procedure.

This certainly was no act of vigilantism - it's civic courage. He only stopped somebody obviously commiting a crime until authorities arrived. Unless the life of somebody is in direct danger, don't even think about resisting in a robbery or engange somebody who might have a weapon on him.
Anyone without training should propably just look after the guy beeing shot AFTER the gunmen has left.

Exactly, like I said, the fact that the gunman already shot someone makes this a courageous and heroic gesture, whereas it would just be reckless endangerment if the gunman was merely waving the thing around and making demands.

synobal:

So you think it's less of a gamble that a criminal won't blow your brains out or give you a columbian necktie, than to carry a weapon and if needed use it? Also you'll find that most gun crime doesn't happen with people who can legally carry.

90% correct on the first part: I'd rather take a gamble on that than permanently carry a gun.

Correlation between gun ownership and gun crime is not exactly that clear-cut. I'll just throw up a few random examples.

Great Britain currently has one of the lowest firearm homicide rates around the world, and some of the strictest regulations concerning gun ownership.
In Switzerland gun ownership is extremely high, as all army recruits (in a land where everyone goes through basic military training at 18) take their rifle home. Gun crime still is relatively low.

In the US you also can find examples of high gun ownership and low crime, but also of low ownership, and low crime. Or high rates of ownership, and high rates of crime. And pretty much every shade in between.

And as to your specific argument as to whether people who legally carry are more or less likely to commit crimes: it's a bit of a wild guess as best, as per definition you can only guess the amount of people who carry illegally.

ahahah
"ITS A TRAP!"

Right, why the fuck is there a video add in this article? I don't get it

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