PayPal Founder Building Island Utopia

PayPal Founder Building Island Utopia

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PayPal's founder finds life on land to be too dry.

We all know how well building a city under the ocean worked out for Andrew Ryan. Now, a contemporary billionaire wants to try living on top of it. Peter Thiel, founder of PayPal, investor in Facebook, and self-made billionaire, has decided that life on boring, dry land under a ho-hum, moderate republican government does not suit him. Since the United States has not been especially receptive to Thiel's favored libertarian ideas, he has decided to invest over a million dollars in starting a new life on an artificial island where libertarianism reigns supreme.

Seriously.

"There are quite a lot of people who think it's not possible," said Thiel in 2009. According to Details magazine, he then continued, sounding absolutely nothing like a mad dictator: "That's a good thing. We don't need to really worry about those people very much, because since they don't think it's possible they won't take us very seriously. And they will not actually try to stop us until it's too late."

Thiel is a supporter of the Seasteading Institute, a non-profit organization founded in 2008. Their mission: "To further the establishment and growth of permanent, autonomous ocean communities, enabling innovation with new political and social system." According to Details, the institute believes that most established governments are too resistant to change, and that true social progress can come about in the lawless waters of the high seas.

So far, Thiel has donated almost $2 million to the cause ($1.25 million recently, and $500,000 in 2008), but it seems like an entire floating nation would cost well into the billions. Still, the Seasteading Institute will start small with an office park off the coast of California next year, and more permanent oceanic residences seven years after that.

We at The Escapist would like to wish Mr. Thiel the best of luck in his endeavor to flip all terrestrial life on Earth the proverbial bird. Besides, if living atop the ocean doesn't work out, he can always start a new life under the sea.

Source: Yahoo!

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wow andrew ryan much

I'm bringin' the plasmids!

I presume this will end up at lot like Atlantis did. Still, that's pretty awesome.

Sounds like a great place to do Running Man in real life.

I've always wanted to do this ever since I saw the CEO from Virgin records show us around his island.

I've heard the Rapture and Water World comparisons. Saw this on Yahoo News earlier. Needless to say, the comments board was entirely either "Send all the Liberals there" or "Send all the Tea Party members there". Sigh.

NameIsRobertPaulson:
I've heard the Rapture and Water World comparisons. Saw this on Yahoo News earlier. Needless to say, the comments board was entirely either "Send all the Liberals there" or "Send all the Tea Party members there". Sigh.

The Tea Partiers profess to want a government like what Thiel is proposing. Meanwhile, he's going to need a populace for his island government experiment.

Just so long as I don't have to deal with any fallout if it goes sour, I'm actually quite interested to see how such an island government experiment would go.

I'll be interested to see how it works out. This should give us data on how real Libertarianism works in practice that will be very useful in designing more effective social systems.

Personally, I would never live in a place like that. If I'm going to face constant discrimination from neurotypicals (unlike racism and sexism, it's actually hardwired into their brains), I'd rather do it in a place where they're under stricter control, less well armed and it's easier for me to run away. This might work out well for people who don't have any kind of Autism, though, and I'm very happy that they've decided to do it far away in a location that can easily be bombed off the face of the Earth if something goes wrong.

The only time I would ever want to lived on that is when the zombie apocalypse had happen and no one is infected on that island yet. As long the island got some kind of a farmland, animal, fresh water and lots and lots of ammo and defence than I will pack my stuff to that island!

Paul Palumbo:
I presume this will end up at lot like Atlantis did. Still, that's pretty awesome.

Interestingly enough, they think they may have found Atlantis in Spain.

OT: I guess technology is being pushed to the...Brink?

Sounds like it's time to move.

A left nation? COUNT ME IN. Bit too Southern for my liking, however. Though the sea wings may help a lot with the heat.

From the Desk of Peter Thiel

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I am Peter Thiel, and I'm here to ask you a question.

'Is a man not entitled to blow his fortune on extravagance?'

NO! Says the man in Washington, it belongs to Obamacare
NO! Says the man in the Univerisity, it belongs to science
NO! Says the hipsters in New York, it never belonged to ANYONE!

I rejected those answers. Instead i chose something different...

... I chose THE IMPOSSIBLE! I chose SEASEEDING!

Actual quote:

"There are quite a lot of people who think it's not possible. That's a good thing. We don't need to really worry about those people very much... they will not actually try to stop us until it's too late."

Reality imitating art I tell ya... he should just watch out for some guy called Fontaine.

I see this ending in one of two ways:

A - the island is a complete failure and abandoned once the price gets a little two high

B - the island will be an utter catastrophe, ending in the island being completely destroyed.

I hope that doesn't happen but I really don't see this ending well.

SirBryghtside:

Acting like a FOOL:
I'm bringin' the plasmids!

No, you fool, Rapture got screwed up because of the lack of any beverages apart from alcohol and coffee! :P

don't worry,I'll bring Gatorade too.

SirBryghtside:

Acting like a FOOL:
I'm bringin' the plasmids!

No, you fool, Rapture got screwed up because of the lack of any beverages apart from alcohol and coffee! :P

Funny, those are pretty much the only fluids I ever drink.

Pahahahaha!
Okay.
Said like this, from 0:40 to 0:46

Yow. That's Bond villain stuff right there.

All it would take is one conservative and the island would destroyed. And then we could say bioshock is based on a true story.

Fbuh:

OT: I guess technology is being pushed to the...Brink?

haha, i see what you did.
his libertarian ideals may get scuppered when he has to fight the resistance uprising

This will not end well, although I hope it gets built, he should build it under water so it isn't subject to storms and pirates. I can't wait to see that on the news, Somali pirates set new record for ship stealing when they captured a city and are ransoming it back. Those parasites will always get him. I hope he names it Rapture though, I doubt the Bioshock chums would mind the free publicity.

We need more people with extraordinary amounts of money to spend them on things like this. More billionaires would be happy if they had personal batcaves.

Though this article on the Escapist doesn't mention it, another news article about the same thing I read about an hour ago mentions how one of the things they're trying to escape by creating their own country out at sea is strict building codes.

They want to be free to use shoddier construction methods. On an entirely man-made island. Miles out to sea, where there'll be no one around to come to their rescue when the whole thing collapses.

I think this will be great for a laugh one day in the future. I'm trying to determine what's likely to destroy them first, a natural disaster, being attacked by pirates without anyone to defend them, or their city collapsing under the weight of it's own hubris.

Gizen:
Though this article on the Escapist doesn't mention it, another news article about the same thing I read about an hour ago mentions how one of the things they're trying to escape by creating their own country out at sea is strict building codes.

They want to be free to use shoddier construction methods. On an entirely man-made island. Miles out to sea, where there'll be no one around to come to their rescue when the whole thing collapses.

I think this will be great for a laugh one day in the future. I'm trying to determine what's likely to destroy them first, a natural disaster, being attacked by pirates without anyone to defend them, or their city collapsing under the weight of it's own hubris.

My favorite part is that they want to shirk Maritime Law as well. It's funny, because the VERY FIRST LAW under the STCW-95 provisions is that ANY ship in a position to aid another vessel in distress MUST assist them. I am going to laugh SOOOOOO hard when it starts to sink and nobody comes to help them!

Gizen:
Though this article on the Escapist doesn't mention it, another news article about the same thing I read about an hour ago mentions how one of the things they're trying to escape by creating their own country out at sea is strict building codes.

They want to be free to use shoddier construction methods. On an entirely man-made island. Miles out to sea, where there'll be no one around to come to their rescue when the whole thing collapses.

I think this will be great for a laugh one day in the future. I'm trying to determine what's likely to destroy them first, a natural disaster, being attacked by pirates without anyone to defend them, or their city collapsing under the weight of it's own hubris.

I think it will be a rogue dolphin bumping against the center of the island, which will more than likely be completely unbalanced, causing the entire thing to split and splinter apart at the very center and just tear itself apart...
Though, I'm hoping it'll cave in towards the center, and sandwich itself! That would just be awesome!

I will look forward to his inevitable failure then. He's probably only interested because he's tired of paying "oppressive taxes". If people like him just shut up and paid their fair share, instead of wasting all their money on ways to avoid paying up, something good could actually get accomplished, like a more balanced U.S. budget.

I want to see this thing ravaged by storms, and to see their ineffectual government ignore the structural integrity of their home.

Well...I know where I want to spend my retirement.

Well...I know where I want to spend my retirement.

Come on...it's Peter Thiel...he can do whatever the fuck he wants!

Wait, no comparison with Brink's Ark?

I suppose he's safe from the zombie apocolypse.

How do I get there?

Waterworld's production showed just how difficult it was to merely film in the open ocean. Stephen Spielberg came away from Jaws convinced that filming in the ocean was a horrible idea due to the difficulty and cost involved.

I can't imagine 1-2 million dollars even approaching getting this idea executed in any sustainable fashion.

This can only end badly.

 

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