Activision Prices Call of Duty Elite

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Korten12:

Von Strimmer:
50 dollars and you dont even get the maps free??? thats horeshit! Does that also mean it will cost $100 in Australia? yeah fuck you activision. Enough said.

You get the DLC free... Seriously people, research... It's as easy as going to google and typing it in. In fact, let me do that for you.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Do+you+get+free+DLC+with+Call+of+Duty+Elite%3F

For starters the article is badly worded. It says you get early access to the maps and nothing about whether they're covered. Also that just covers all the maps currently that have been created but wont be released with the game (fuck you for that too activision). So any new maps may not be covered. Dont trust activision and your research isn't clear either.

Not at all interested in this.

Seriously, I'm a very big fan of Call of Duty games and I couldn't dream of shelling out this much money on something so pointless for a game that will eventually become more frustrating than fun five months into the game.

And considering this is going to be the last CoD game that actually does well, it's strange to see Activision pull this stunt.

One thing about Activision, they tend not to realize that it's too late until after they've sunk the franchise.

tippy2k2:
Each article I've seen about Elite does not mention anything about Activision run servers. Is it safe to assume that the game will continue with hosts (AKA The Guy who can't be killed due to hosting)? I'd gladly pay this amount with a giant smile on my face if they just added servers run by Activision into the mix.

On PC there is servers, on console it never really matters.

The thing about about CoD games and the reason why they've managed to hold off on putting servers for the Console version is that the game can run pretty smoothly on Peer to Peer.

woh $50 I was expecting $20 dollars but $50 not only that but more than likely it will cost more depending what country your in

40 a year subscription fee?!? PASS!!! For fuck's sake Activision, my entire XBL Gold is 30 a year! If you'd have said 10 or $15 I may have been tempted, but as it is you can take your Elite Hardened Membership and shove it vigourously up your ******* ******* ***** and then ******* ** ******** ****** before finally ********* * ******* ****.

I'm getting really sick of having to defend you guys and your financial skulduggery.

The_root_of_all_evil:

FreakSheet:

The_root_of_all_evil:
And @Rednog, "Seriously"? Opinions are open, but charging for a service that could be atrocious is the same day 1 DLC that crippled Portal 2. It's hardly a new call.

Wait... Portal 2 had day 1 DLC?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=portal+2+day+1+dlc

LOTS of hate.

Those were just hats, not really needed to enjoy the game.

The REAL dlc is coming soon (in still technically summer >.>) and its FREE. That is good business, not taking your customers for all their worth.

That's a pretty decent price. I mean I just bought Bodycount and that cost me 60 bucks and was fucking terrible. For less then that I can have a years worth of maps for a game that I will most definitely put days and days of time into. I know the 'in' thing to do on here is to hate anything if more people then you and the next doors cat know about but there are people like me who genuinely enjoy the game. Fast paced competitive online games are pretty much all I play so I for can't wait for this!

JoesshittyOs:
Not at all interested in this.

Seriously, I'm a very big fan of Call of Duty games and I couldn't dream of shelling out this much money on something so pointless for a game that will eventually become more frustrating than fun five months into the game.

And considering this is going to be the last CoD game that actually does well, it's strange to see Activision pull this stunt.

One thing about Activision, they tend not to realize that it's too late until after they've sunk the franchise.

tippy2k2:
Each article I've seen about Elite does not mention anything about Activision run servers. Is it safe to assume that the game will continue with hosts (AKA The Guy who can't be killed due to hosting)? I'd gladly pay this amount with a giant smile on my face if they just added servers run by Activision into the mix.

On PC there is servers, on console it never really matters.

The thing about about CoD games and the reason why they've managed to hold off on putting servers for the Console version is that the game can run pretty smoothly on Peer to Peer.

Consoles running smoothly with P2P is something I'd have to respectfully disagree with. When I put four rounds into someone's chest, get shot myself, then see on the kill cam that I sat there picking my nose rather than firing, either my game broke or the guy I'm firing on is the host.

At least if they were Activision run servers, everyone in the group would be on the same playing field(even with lag, at least it would be even lag, no Semi-God players). So Activision, if for some reason you are hanging around the Escapist forums and see my post, I will GLADLY put down $50 a year with a large cartoony grin on my face if you'll add non-P2P servers to Elite.

tippy2k2:

Consoles running smoothly with P2P is something I'd have to respectfully disagree with. When I put four rounds into someone's chest, get shot myself, then see on the kill cam that I sat there picking my nose rather than firing, either my game broke or the guy I'm firing on is the host.

I think I should have said as smooth as peer to peer can get on console.

On Black Ops it got extra terrible for some reason, hence the reason why I can't play that game without rage quitting from about every other death in 15 minutes (I swear, I can replay at least half of my deaths in that game and give a good logical paragraph on how it was bullshit)

At least if they were Activision run servers, everyone in the group would be on the same playing field(even with lag, at least it would be even lag, no Semi-God players). So Activision, if for some reason you are hanging around the Escapist forums and see my post, I will GLADLY put down $50 a year with a large cartoony grin on my face if you'll add non-P2P servers to Elite.

But if you think about it, Activision is the wealthiest gaming company out there. They have no excuse to have not already done that for free.

I don't want to live on this planet any more.

Von Strimmer:

Korten12:

Von Strimmer:
50 dollars and you dont even get the maps free??? thats horeshit! Does that also mean it will cost $100 in Australia? yeah fuck you activision. Enough said.

You get the DLC free... Seriously people, research... It's as easy as going to google and typing it in. In fact, let me do that for you.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Do+you+get+free+DLC+with+Call+of+Duty+Elite%3F

For starters the article is badly worded. It says you get early access to the maps and nothing about whether they're covered. Also that just covers all the maps currently that have been created but wont be released with the game (fuck you for that too activision). So any new maps may not be covered. Dont trust activision and your research isn't clear either.

If you clicked on the Call of Duty Elite link, it tells you that you get all MW3 and any further COD DLC for free, even when your sub ends you keep the dlc.

Knickers to you, Mr Kotick.

The CoD series was overpriced as it stood, not to mention that Activision had the studios spamming sequels every year or two. Now they want an extra 40 per year out of the gamer.

MW3 Costs: 45
CoD Elite: 40 per annum

= 85 for one complete game with a mortgage.

Just as well people are getting sick of CoD. I can see Elite falling on it's face and hopefully Mr Kotick being fired for killing Activision's Golden Goose.

Christ atlest throw your fans a map or two, then again the properly rabid fans wouldn't care if it was a grand per year.

Korten12:

Von Strimmer:

Korten12:

You get the DLC free... Seriously people, research... It's as easy as going to google and typing it in. In fact, let me do that for you.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Do+you+get+free+DLC+with+Call+of+Duty+Elite%3F

For starters the article is badly worded. It says you get early access to the maps and nothing about whether they're covered. Also that just covers all the maps currently that have been created but wont be released with the game (fuck you for that too activision). So any new maps may not be covered. Dont trust activision and your research isn't clear either.

If you clicked on the Call of Duty Elite link, it tells you that you get all MW3 and any further COD DLC for free, even when your sub ends you keep the dlc.

Hmmm after further research I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt (still too expensive and unfair if you ask me but oh well). Gamers mistrust for Kotick and activision is well founded but this time I'll take the high road and just not purchase MW3 or its elite thingy.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Korten12:

Um... Yeah, it is actually A LOT who said they were idiots.
Half of them even said you needed to buy the dlc on top of Elite. Yeah, they know there stuff.

Re-read page 1. I can only see Rawne/Sean criticizing. No-one says you need to buy the dlc. In fact, all of the people who are being aggressive are those defending Activision. And, like Nintendo, I don't think they need defending or even notice it.

Also when the fuck did I say I was willing to pay. Wait let me re-read my post. Nope, never once I said I would pay for it.

So you're defending a service that you wouldn't even buy? O....K....

Quality of maps is purely subjective.

That's an even bigger cop-out than "I like this but I won't buy it".

Thats a bigger cop out. You bring up Quality in to the argumenet but then say basically it's not subjective.

Just like for any patches and content updates for any game, free or not, there will be some that hate it and some who love it.

And doesn't answer any of the valid criticisms raised.

I have tried but nothing seemed to be one by you. I answered but I guess it wasn't good enough if you're saying that.

Don't you think you're taking this a little personally?

I am. I am just sooo fucking sick of all the COD hate on these forums. You don't have to like the game, but don't have a contest (not directly refering to you) to the biggest douche about it that these forums seem to have daily. Seriously, it has reached new heights and seriously reaching into the blind hate type.

I know the article was a bit, not understood well about the DLC part, but since it didn't mention you got them free. Everyone (not all since some knew before hand) that you had to pay for the DLC on top of Elite when you don't have to. Thus people will read this thread and probably will believe them even if some say otherwise.

On all the times that I have been on the escapist (which isn't as long as some but isn't not long, around 2 years I think now?) I have never seen this hate get so out of control. To the point where someone made a whole thread telling people to: Stop Defending Call of Duty...

THAT's how bad it has gotten. That's why I am taking this a bit more personally then normal.

CAN SOMEONE CLEAR THIS UP:

If you are subscribed to Elite do you still have to pay fifteen dollars per map pack or not? Kinda crucial since if you were going to buy, say three packs then all the added shit might be useful to you.

Okay so apparently you DO get the map packs, so it's not as bad as people think. It's still an insane price for DLC anyway though so fuck it.

Baneat:
CAN SOMEONE CLEAR THIS UP:

If you are subscribed to Elite do you still have to pay fifteen dollars per map pack or not? Kinda crucial since if you were going to buy, say three packs then all the added shit might be useful to you.

Okay so apparently you DO get the map packs, so it's not as bad as people think. It's still an insane price for DLC anyway though so fuck it.

No, you get all the DLC that comes out free. Whether ot not this includes all previous COD's is unknown.

Von Strimmer:

Hmmm after further research I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt (still too expensive and unfair if you ask me but oh well). Gamers mistrust for Kotick and activision is well founded but this time I'll take the high road and just not purchase MW3 or its elite thingy.

I think they should have gone with either maybe... $17, $20, or $25 rather then 50. I think those are more of sweet spot.

Korten12:

Von Strimmer:

Hmmm after further research I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt (still too expensive and unfair if you ask me but oh well). Gamers mistrust for Kotick and activision is well founded but this time I'll take the high road and just not purchase MW3 or its elite thingy.

I think they should have gone with either maybe... $17, $20, or $25 rather then 50. I think those are more of sweet spot.

But then they're selling their DLC short? I'll wager that most people who buy one map pack are the kind of people that buy all of them.

Let's do a quick comparison between CoD and another online FPS.

CoD: Expensive price, little to no patches, bug fixes and playtesting, expensive "dlc" which consists of a few maps, new game released each year, horribly imbalanced, known for being rage inducing, horrible RPG elements for unlocks.

TF2: Hats, free, hats, constant free updates, maps, weapons, new hats, stuff added in by the community, been out for many years and has been thouroughly playtested and balanced, overall fun experience, hats, random drop system, hats.

Sure, I'm slightly biased, but it's fairly clear which is the better game and which developers have ab etter mindset. Yet people will still buy not only MW3. But this elite malarkey. All I can really say to that is y? y u do this? You don't even get fancy hats with elite. You get them for free in TF2. Hats! Hats hats hat hat hat hats hat.

awesome strat. not only will they get your $60 every year with a "new" game they can squeeze another $50 out of you for something you can get for free on Justin.TV

Roflmao! XD

Baneat:

Korten12:

Von Strimmer:

Hmmm after further research I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt (still too expensive and unfair if you ask me but oh well). Gamers mistrust for Kotick and activision is well founded but this time I'll take the high road and just not purchase MW3 or its elite thingy.

I think they should have gone with either maybe... $17, $20, or $25 rather then 50. I think those are more of sweet spot.

But then they're selling their DLC short? I'll wager that most people who buy one map pack are the kind of people that buy all of them.

Then they should lower their price of DLC to like $6. I want the rest of the zombie maps. XD (only bought the latest DLC for Blops on ps3 to get Shangri-La but no way am I paying more for the last two. Luckly I get the final dlc for free b/c I own the harden edition. So I guess I am good for now...)

SuperNova221:
Let's do a quick comparison between CoD and another online FPS.

CoD: Expensive price, little to no patches, bug fixes and playtesting, expensive "dlc" which consists of a few maps, new game released each year, horribly imbalanced, known for being rage inducing, horrible RPG elements for unlocks.

TF2: Hats, free, hats, constant free updates, maps, weapons, new hats, stuff added in by the community, been out for many years and has been thouroughly playtested and balanced, overall fun experience, hats, random drop system, hats.

Sure, I'm slightly biased, but it's fairly clear which is the better game and which developers have ab etter mindset. Yet people will still buy not only MW3. But this elite malarkey. All I can really say to that is y? y u do this? You don't even get fancy hats with elite. You get them for free in TF2. Hats! Hats hats hat hat hat hats hat.

TF2 and CoD are quite different. Like I somewhat see why people compare BF and CoD (despite personally feeling that both are good at what they do. One's more tactical while the other one is more just faster pace shoot up.) but... TF2... Is a heavily team-based shooter, with radically different gameplay to CoD...

Korten12:

SuperNova221:
Let's do a quick comparison between CoD and another online FPS.

CoD: Expensive price, little to no patches, bug fixes and playtesting, expensive "dlc" which consists of a few maps, new game released each year, horribly imbalanced, known for being rage inducing, horrible RPG elements for unlocks.

TF2: Hats, free, hats, constant free updates, maps, weapons, new hats, stuff added in by the community, been out for many years and has been thouroughly playtested and balanced, overall fun experience, hats, random drop system, hats.

Sure, I'm slightly biased, but it's fairly clear which is the better game and which developers have ab etter mindset. Yet people will still buy not only MW3. But this elite malarkey. All I can really say to that is y? y u do this? You don't even get fancy hats with elite. You get them for free in TF2. Hats! Hats hats hat hat hat hats hat.

TF2 and CoD are quite different. Like I somewhat see why people compare BF and CoD (despite personally feeling that both are good at what they do. One's more tactical while the other one is more just faster pace shoot up.) but... TF2... Is a heavily team-based shooter, with radically different gameplay to CoD...

It was more of a comparison between the quality of the games and the companies mindset when it comes to making the game than comparing the two games directly to see which one is better. Didn't really make hat clear.

Korten12:

Von Strimmer:

Hmmm after further research I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt (still too expensive and unfair if you ask me but oh well). Gamers mistrust for Kotick and activision is well founded but this time I'll take the high road and just not purchase MW3 or its elite thingy.

I think they should have gone with either maybe... $17, $20, or $25 rather then 50. I think those are more of sweet spot.

I think the problem with Activision here is that they just jumped right into it and started charging $50 straight up with no sweetener. I mean will this go up in price? Will they change how many additional maps they put out? There are way too many variables and people dont want to put there money into things/a company that a) have been known to be a bit of a rip-off and; b) Can change the ToS at any time leaving you out of pocket.

Its like paying for a season pass on itunes. You pay up front and you are not even told when things come out. What if they bring out maps after your subscription runs out so you only pay your $50 and only get half the maps? what then? I have a feeling that the consumer is going to be severely out of pocket by the end of this.

So it's like they're selling people another COD game every year but without the gamers getting another game.
How has the industry come to this? I realize that most gamers are suckers but I didn't realize that a target that big has been painted on all of us.
Seriously, for that price, 'Elites' should get the DLC for free; this makes it sound like they just get the "benefit" of buying the DLC before anyone has had the chance to play it.
And that's not really a benefit; by todays standards it sounds like they're paying more to be play testers.
Even if you do get the maps come with the charge, you're paying MORE for them long before you've even found out if they're any good.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Korten12:
Also what the fuck does quality even matter in this arguemet?

You've just made my entire point.

Quality is everything. That's what you're paying premium for.

If you're just paying a shitload up front without knowing what's in it, then you're just like the lady who bought the wooden iPad. Take a damn look inside the box first.

Go back and actually check how many people on this "fucking forum" actually called people idiots for buying this. It's way less than half. They just said they didn't want to buy it, and they knew a lot of people that would.

I'm afraid the person most upset by this is you. And you're willing to pay the money.

I agree with Root, quality over quantity my friend, quality over quantity.

lame. and i was gonna pre-order it and everything. sorry, i'm not using my money for that Activision. well have fun with it guys!

GonzoGamer:
So it's like they're selling people another COD game every year but without the gamers getting another game.
How has the industry come to this? I realize that most gamers are suckers but I didn't realize that a target that big has been painted on all of us.
Seriously, for that price, 'Elites' should get the DLC for free; this makes it sound like they just get the "benefit" of buying the DLC before anyone has had the chance to play it.
And that's not really a benefit; by todays standards it sounds like they're paying more to be play testers.
Even if you do get the maps come with the charge, you're paying MORE for them long before you've even found out if they're any good.

That's the point, Elite subbers do get the DLC for free, you even keep it if you unsub. Though as I told someone earlier, the quality of the maps (which btw the dlc isn't just maps, but also gamemodes and Spec Ops maps) is subjective. But most likely if you're going to pay for elite. You would download all the maps you get.

Sonicron:
... "Hardened Edition"?
That's just wrong on sooooo many levels, and made worse by the fact that parents will shell out cash so their kids can enjoy the Hardened goodness too!

You sir have won the thread.

OT: I think all game companies should take the Valve approach. Make all of their dlc free as penance for being at least three years over due on everything. Then maybe Activsion (this look like it is spelled wrong) wont be releasing a COD every frikkin year.

Who wants to bet that Activision don't release any DLC map packs in the first year because of the 1 year Elite subscription in the Hardened version.

players will receive early access to all Modern Warfare 3 map packs

Turns out my natural cynicism is wrong, you do actually get all DLC 'free' when you sign up to it, im still skeptical as to the worth of it all but since im not planning on getting the game i'll leave it at that.

So you pay 40 for the game plus 40 to get all the content and a subsequent 40 for each year you want to access the content, PLUS you pay for the map packs that'll cost 7 each.

Yeah, fuck off Activision.

Korten12:

GonzoGamer:
So it's like they're selling people another COD game every year but without the gamers getting another game.
How has the industry come to this? I realize that most gamers are suckers but I didn't realize that a target that big has been painted on all of us.
Seriously, for that price, 'Elites' should get the DLC for free; this makes it sound like they just get the "benefit" of buying the DLC before anyone has had the chance to play it.
And that's not really a benefit; by todays standards it sounds like they're paying more to be play testers.
Even if you do get the maps come with the charge, you're paying MORE for them long before you've even found out if they're any good.

That's the point, Elite subbers do get the DLC for free, you even keep it if you unsub. Though as I told someone earlier, the quality of the maps (which btw the dlc isn't just maps, but also gamemodes and Spec Ops maps) is subjective. But most likely if you're going to pay for elite. You would download all the maps you get.

Even if you do intend to purchase all the DLC, this isn't exactly a deal and it should be considering the people putting down the money are taking a leap of faith and handing over the money months before they get to see anything in return.
Then again, gamers already got talked into this practice with gamestop's pre-orders so I wont really be too surprised if this scheme is a success.
I just don't see how it will encourage the devs to put much effort into the dlc if they already got the money for it. Normally you're supposed to pay someone when the job is finished.

Korten12:

Thats a bigger cop out. You bring up Quality in to the argumenet but then say basically it's not subjective.

There's a subjective quality, but simply copy/pasting maps from different ideas won't be a set of quality map. Hydro from TF2 is roundly loathed and had that map appeared in a map pack, few people would have bought it.

I have tried but nothing seemed to be one by you. I answered but I guess it wasn't good enough if you're saying that.

No, you haven't. You have continually stated that "everyone hates CoD" on this "fucking forum", which simply isn't true.

It's a popular (+hate) FPS (+hate) from Activision (++hate) that releases yearly (+hate) for increasing prices (+hate) and is defended for it's realism (+hate) by a number of people who scream obscenities (+hate) and treat the rest of the community as bad people for doing so.

Take a look at some of the hate Halo, Half-Life, Team Fortress, Battlefield 3 gets.

Now, look back at this thread and look at all the people who are screaming at others. That's a far more damning indictment of the game than the haters could ever put across.

Some people don't like CoD, Activision really doesn't need defending from them. They're putting out an offer that a lot of people are seeing as a candy bar to suck new players in. Players who will learn their levels of netiquette from places like here.

You say you won't be buying the membership pack, but you've just wasted an hour of your life cursing at people spreading information.

Really...If everyone who read this article didn't buy CoD on the strength of the arguments here, would it even register a blip on Activision's market?

And if you seriously think this is a Hate Spike, wait until Breaking Dawn, Spore or Transformers 4 comes out. This isn't even a Hate Tack yet.

D0WNT0WN:
So you pay 40 for the game plus 40 to get all the content and a subsequent 40 for each year you want to access the content, PLUS you pay for the map packs that'll cost 7 each.

Yeah, fuck off Activision.

No you get the maps for free.

Ickorus:

players will receive early access to all Modern Warfare 3 map packs

Notice it doesn't say they'll get the map packs free or at a reduced price, just 'early'.

As it goes I don't really mind this, only idiots willpay and if you're that stupid you don't deserve disposable income.

The site says the maps are for free.

http://translate.google.com/translate?ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fps3life.nl%2Fnieuws%2F8945-met-call-of-duty-elite-krijg-je-gratis-mw3-dlc%2F&sl=nl&tl=en

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