Mojang and Bethesda Are Going to Court

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Is this going to be handled by the Swedish courts? I certainly hope so, cuz they're brutal! They'll scream at Bethesda for even bringing it up, call them morons, and throw them out of court. That's the Viking way!
You know what? If they get the right judge there is an, albeit small, chance that they could actually settle this with a Quake match.

Skyrim boycott?

No? just me then...

Both sides are being childish morons and should both grow up, notch should take this more seriously and Bethesda should stop being so dickish.

nixonsnow:

Cat of Doom:
Huh, if this was EA instead of Bethesda suing over something this silly, the internet will be set alight with rage, everyone boycotting the old republic and the next dragon age game, comparing EA to the devil and slandering origin for some reason. Some developers like Bethesda and others *Cough* Valve *Cough* get free passes when they pull dick moves I suppose.

The only reason everyone is getting so emo about this on here is because they're all fanboys of Mojang...last years winner for "Best Game Company" or whatever the title was, on this site. They beat out legitimate game companies because of one game. Really? Way too many fanboys.

Nope. I'm looking forward to the release of Skyrim more than the release of Minecraft by an order of magnitude. I'm 'getting so emo' about this case because it's fucking retarded.

but don't gamers refer to the series as TES anyway? and individual games by their titles? i've never heard anyone talk about them as the Scrolls games or series, and tbh, i've not heard of Mojangs' Scrolls either :P

jim1398:

According to Kaplan, Bethesda's lawyers plan to use user comments about Scrolls... to prove that gamers are likely to confuse Scrolls with the Elder Scrolls franchise.

Why do I get the feeling that at some point we're going to be seeing stories about how these 'user comments' were posted by people linked to Zenimax and/or Bethesda?

I'm more hoping they screw up and do blatantly sarcastic ones :P

Love Bethesda Games Studios, hate Bethesda Softworks/ZeniMax. That's how it's always been.

nixonsnow:

Cat of Doom:
Huh, if this was EA instead of Bethesda suing over something this silly, the internet will be set alight with rage, everyone boycotting the old republic and the next dragon age game, comparing EA to the devil and slandering origin for some reason. Some developers like Bethesda and others *Cough* Valve *Cough* get free passes when they pull dick moves I suppose.

The only reason everyone is getting so emo about this on here is because they're all fanboys of Mojang...last years winner for "Best Game Company" or whatever the title was, on this site. They beat out legitimate game companies because of one game. Really? Way too many fanboys.

I haven't played Minecraft and did not agree with Mojang winning for various reasons, but this lawsuit is bullshit - fanboy or not.

I really don't see the problem. Since The Elder's Scrolls series is rather famous around gamers, wouldn't it be more beneficial if the thoughts would go towards that game instead?
Surely, people won't make the mistake of buying Scrolls instead of any of The Elders scrolls titles?
The thought of someone really thinking "This is an issue, let's file some paperwork!"... I can't describe it, it's not possible with words.

Would be great if they settled it with a gaming match, like Quake 3 which Notch said.

I sincerely hope that SEGA sues Bethesda, because obviously the game Rage infringes on SEGA's Streets of Rage trademark.

P.S. Thanks

I am sad about this. Notch proposed a pretty awesome and fair (not to mention, cheap) solution to a silly and unnecessary debate, and it was turned down. Bethesda, your lawyers (Or whoever started this silly thing) suck.

Hashbrick:
Last I checked you couldn't copyright part of your game title but all of it. So someone quickly make a game called The Elder and see where it goes. I mean who doesn't want to play a 90 old grandpa yelling at children to get off his lawn meanwhile upping his xp to do more crazier shit. Like for instance pouring a bucket of piss all over his porch and sidewalk so the kids won't go on although that would clearly be a tier 3 skill of bat-shit-craziness

I'd play that game... Do we get extra points for pouring the piss during the winter and watching the kids slip and fall?

Also... at what tier do we get to break out the shotgun?

I am incredibly indifferent to this

They need to put this crap on pay-per-view, they'd make MILLIONS.

what about the Quake match?
seriously Bethesda! NOBODY calls it "The Elder Scrolls" they call it:
"Arena" , "Daggerfall" , "Morrowind" , "Oblivion" and "Skyrim"!
not TES 1-5!
just leave it it,s going to cost allot of money and you aren't winning anybody over with this!

Call me an idiot, but does anyone actually CALL Skyrim the Elder Scrolls 5 beside gaming magazines/websites/press releases? Everyone I've met just says 'Skyrim'.

According to Kaplan, Bethesda's lawyers plan to use user comments about Scrolls videos, articles about the game and even screen shots to prove that gamers are likely to confuse Scrolls with the Elder Scrolls franchise. "It is really silly believing our game will be confused with their FPS-RPG with realistic graphics," he said. "They have dumped everything they could find about Scrolls."

Exactly, NO ONE will EVER confuse Scrolls with Skyrim. You know what the court should decide? Hold a survey under gamers about whether they refer to the TES games as Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim or as Scrolls.

Laughable really, Mojang has this in the bag and I hope they get a nice sum of money with it just to piss off Bethesda.

*note* I'll still be buying Skyrim ^_^

Lets not forget this is the legal "parent" company to the Bethesda developers who make TES, the future Fallouts, Prey 2 etc. The developer Bethesda has no influence or interest in this court case.

EDIT: Yep, Bethesda GAME STUDIOS makes the games, Bethesda SOFTWORKS are the ones getting hissy, and Zenimax publish it.. Saying you're boycotting Skyrim is like saying you're Boycotting CoD due to Activision being a money cow. O WAIT :|

Srlsy tho. Boycotting Skyrim is your loss and Softworks are being a little short; but then again "Scrolls" is an awefully generic name to call your game and "Scrolls" in the gaming world is easily identifiable as being a TES reference.

User comments under videos? Who the hell has actually got them mixed up? Hopefully they aren't going to be using the comments from all the people who were JOKING.
I hope Mojang wins tho not out of loyalty to them. I haven't played their games but they are in the right here and Bethesda are being dicks. I don't know anyone who even refers to The Elder Scrolls series as just Scrolls.

jurnag12:
Call me an idiot, but does anyone actually CALL Skyrim the Elder Scrolls 5 beside gaming magazines/websites/press releases? Everyone I've met just says 'Skyrim'.

Y'know, I know several people who don't even know that Morrowind, Oblivion or Skyrim is called Elder Scrolls. No one calls it that.

no one calls the games the elder scrolls insert number here, they call them what ever the name is after the series title, like oblivion, or skyrim, or morrowind. the point being is that no one would actually get it mixed up, and bethesda knows this. they just want a quick buck, and they don't give a damn about their reputation. i hate this case, but let's face it, i'm still going to get skyrim, and if a new fallout comes out i'll be getting that too, and most people are probably just like this. so really, they have nothing to lose except respect, and if you haven't noticed, a lot of companies don't give a crap about if consumers respect them or not. as long as they make money, they don't care.

Fasckira:

Andy Chalk:
According to Kaplan, Bethesda's lawyers plan to use user comments about Scrolls videos, articles about the game and even screen shots to prove that gamers are likely to confuse Scrolls with the Elder Scrolls franchise.

Rofl, so essentially Bethesda plan to present a load of quotes of various people being sarcastic and proving how hysterical this case is? That should be interesting court case to watch....

"As you can see here, Trololo87 says, 'So @notch, is Scrolls an expansion of Oblivion lol'. Clearly this shows how easily misled gamers are..."

Don't worry, if it comes down to it, Notch will use the Chewbacca defense.

Take them down Notch. Attack them like an Enderman. They looked at you funny so now strike back and strike hard. Bethesda deserve it for such a frivolous lawsuit. It's the word "scrolls". It shares a single word with their title.
If that rule applies to everything Superman and Super Mario would be in conflict.

I don't like Notch as a person, but this time, I am really on Mojang's side. Bethesda's lawsuit-mania is just silly and goes against any notion of common sense. This is just ridiculous and a waste of time for all involved - including part of the Swedish justice system. Bethesda, please go facepalm for yourself, my hands can't accommodate this much stupidity.

The fact that people want Zenimax to win because they dislike Mojang is moronic. If Zenimax wins, this is going to bring back the same shit the Edge guy was shot down for.

Bungie should sue Bethesada because they are using the letter 'l' in their title if this makes sense.

The word "Scrolls" cannot be copyrighted, except maybe in the Insane-o World the guys that Bethesda's legal team seem live in. So no real case and will be dropped. Points to Notch for standing up to the big guys.

Gee I wonder if Beth's gonna try to use quotes from user comments on this ars technica article.

Simeon Ivanov:
What happened to the Quake Deathmatch?

Bethesda decided to use lawyers instead. Sooooooo lame.

That's like saying Microsoft owns the letter X because of the name of their console! Or Gamestop owning the word stop! PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS!

Oh, come ON, Bethesda. This is getting really petty.

GeorgW:
Is this going to be handled by the Swedish courts? I certainly hope so, cuz they're brutal! They'll scream at Bethesda for even bringing it up, call them morons, and throw them out of court. That's the Viking way!
You know what? If they get the right judge there is an, albeit small, chance that they could actually settle this with a Quake match.

This needs to happen. Also Sweden is now about 90% more awesome in my books for not taking cases like these seriously. IT'S A WORD!

I wonder if the original creator of the word could sue EVERYBODY...

Atheist.:

Fasckira:

Andy Chalk:
According to Kaplan, Bethesda's lawyers plan to use user comments about Scrolls videos, articles about the game and even screen shots to prove that gamers are likely to confuse Scrolls with the Elder Scrolls franchise.

Rofl, so essentially Bethesda plan to present a load of quotes of various people being sarcastic and proving how hysterical this case is? That should be interesting court case to watch....

"As you can see here, Trololo87 says, 'So @notch, is Scrolls an expansion of Oblivion lol'. Clearly this shows how easily misled gamers are..."

Don't worry, if it comes down to it, Notch will use the Chewbacca defense.

I'm not familiar with that, please, elaborate, if you will?

XT inc:
I hope Mojang Wins, not because they made minecraft, but Because I think Bethesda are being complete morons and in their own way Insulting consumers intellegence.

Game is called Scrolls, Those dumb customers might think its our game and it isn't we better spend a ton on legal fees to sort this out.

The Ironic thing is most people I know, know of the elder scrolls games, and Can Identify them, but they call the game by its subtitle. It isnt The Elderscrolls 3,4 and five it is Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim.

Exactly. Everything here is precisely why I hope Mojang gives them an epic beatdown. Seriously, what the hell, Bethesda? I like your games, but this is just ridiculous. Stuff like this is one of the big problems with our legal system, and you just have to go and add to it, don't you?

Ser Imp:
The case against Mojang's Scrolls is paper thin. Persson should counter sue Bethesda just for emotional distress and compensation for lost productivity due to these pointless court hearings.

Your reaction to frivoulous lawsuits is to make more of them in revenge?

I wonder if this is not so much about Bethesda's fear of trademark infringement as it is an attempt to get a sneak peek at what Mojang's working on so it can be copied: Regardless of the outcome of the trial, Mojang will have to reveal details of the game in order to defend itself; Bethesda then uses this information to get a head start making a knockoff in the hopes that magical Mojang money-lightning will strike twice.

Off-topic: I'm not buying elder scrolls. I had never planned on buying it to begin with, and Bethesda's doing this isn't helping to change my mind.

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