Doom 4 is Not Postponed

Doom 4 is Not Postponed

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Despite what you may have heard, Bethesda Softworks says Doom 4 has not been postponed.

It's kind of unusual to report that a game isn't delayed but in this case I think it's worth making an exception. Kotaku reported earlier today that in the wake of the less-than-spectacular launch of Rage, which was blamed on both shallow gameplay and a host of technical problems, Zenimax and Bethesda had expressed "a serious lack of confidence in the project management at id" and had thus decided to "indefinitely postpone" Doom 4. Doom 4 was announced more than three years ago but other projects, which is to say Rage, have taken priority.

Still, while an indefinite delay is not good news for fans of the franchise, here's something that is: there is no delay. "Complete bollocks," Pete Hines, Bethesda's vice president of marketing, tweeted in response to the report. "Re: Doom 4 rumor, games are done when they are done and no title under development at id has been postponed - indefinitely or otherwise," he added in a followup.

Was Rage really that bad? The PC release had some serious technical problems but the general consensus among the people I know who played it is that it's thin but decent fun, which pretty much describes every id game to come out since 1994. And "it's an id game" doesn't strike me as a very good reason to postpone anything.

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Yea, I feel like I would've bought Rage Day 1...if it hadn't come out the same day as Dark Souls. I still plan on getting it, but what with Battlefield 3 out next week, It may be waiting to Dead December.

It was pretty good but it was a bit of a tease, I mean it looked fantastic... from a distance, I played it on pc so upclose a bunch of textures looked like crap since the auto graphics thing sucks. But the game gave you the impression of giving you this big open world and then didn't, it was a tease, you ended up with many knee high invisible walls and the most open world looking corridor shooting I've ever seen.

Well if I am going to quote Pete Hines totally out of the context here, which is always fun, I would say that

Rage was complete, and i quote, "Bollocks," end quote.

Andy Chalk:
Doom 4 is Not Postponed

Oh, thank god, they cancelled...

Andy Chalk:
"Complete bollocks," Pete Hines, Bethesda's vice president of marketing, tweeted in response to the report. "Re: Doom 4 rumor, games are done when they are done and no title under development at id has been postponed - indefinitely or otherwise," he added in a followup.

GODDAMNIT! Can we please just have a new engine without having to remake the same game every time?

Andy Chalk:
Doom 4 is Not Postponed

However patches are. Have fun people and don't mind some of textures missing. ;)

Should anyone really have been surprised that a company called Id made a shallow game?
What we need is more Ego

Good--I love the simple fun of id games, and if Doom 4 is going to be more like the first Doom games, I'm all for it.

DVS BSTrD:
What we need is more Ego

Unfortunately... ID is too strong.

The Gentleman:

Andy Chalk:
Doom 4 is Not Postponed

Oh, thank god, they cancelled...

Andy Chalk:
"Complete bollocks," Pete Hines, Bethesda's vice president of marketing, tweeted in response to the report. "Re: Doom 4 rumor, games are done when they are done and no title under development at id has been postponed - indefinitely or otherwise," he added in a followup.

GODDAMNIT! Can we please just have a new engine without having to remake the same game every time?

I'm sorry, since when was Doom 2 remade? Because Doom 3, with it's reduced enemies and cheap scares, was certainly not a remake.

I want a Doom remake that's something in the line of this.

Also, id really needs to pull their shit together. They spent more than half a decade on a game that's 10 hours long, whose main feature, megatexturing, just resulted in baked lighting, no destructible environment, bad texture resolutions and really huge file sizes.

JesterRaiin:

DVS BSTrD:
What we need is more Ego

Unfortunately... ID is too strong.

Kudos on the forbidden planet reference. I'm always surprised when someone other than me has seen it.

Maybe if ID did some better QA, it would've done better. I still can't play the damn game.

Rage wasnt that bad, maybe a little thin in the story department but gameplay was fun and worked well. Not sure what were those serious tecdhnical issues on the PC version, textures loaded slowly at first but the 1st patch fixed it for me.

Gonna be honest and say Rage was not THAT bad...

Story wise was rather weak.... hell... there's not much of a story. And the graphical problems did create some problems. And the game is tremendously short for what it is...

But visually it's off the chart, the gameplay is fluid and good and the sound for it is amazing!!

It's not a 10/10 game, it's more of a 7/10 game then anything else... Not excellent, but very good.

I honestly wouldn't be opposed to the brainless violence that was the original DOOM game so long as they added the secret doors and stuff for the people that like to do the thinkings (myself being amongst them). A lot of games talk about how realistic they are now, but I haven't really seen much of a good game to just straight up kill shit while wandering around for a while.

I've always had a lot of faith in id, but after RAGE, I'm not super enthusiastic, but I grew up playing id games like DOOM and Quake, so I'm still a fan of them, even if they did stumble a bit. I just hope that Doom 4 is a little more like DOOM and less like Doom 3. Although I wouldn't mind if it went the horror route again, so long as they got it right this time around.

Rage really is a good game, it only suffers from being short and extremely linear in the missions.

Had we been able to actually explore the world of Rage, it would of been a better game.

Also, you dont need to have multiplayer on an entirely different disk.

I enjoyed my time with Rage, sure there were technical issues but it worked perfect for me right out of the box so I really can't complain. I'm really looking forward to what they bring with Doom 4 so naturally I was a little disappointed hearing there might be issues with its production, good thing it was only a rumor. The big thing Id desperately needs is writers, the days of corridor shooting are over and they need to start working on a narrative that is going to set them above their peers. With Doom, the IP needs a new direction where they still maintain the atmosphere and gun play that made it special but introduce more freedom and an actual world to explore and get immersed in.

MasterOfWorlds:
I honestly wouldn't be opposed to the brainless violence that was the original DOOM game so long as they added the secret doors and stuff for the people that like to do the thinkings (myself being amongst them). A lot of games talk about how realistic they are now, but I haven't really seen much of a good game to just straight up kill shit while wandering around for a while.

I've always had a lot of faith in id, but after RAGE, I'm not super enthusiastic, but I grew up playing id games like DOOM and Quake, so I'm still a fan of them, even if they did stumble a bit. I just hope that Doom 4 is a little more like DOOM and less like Doom 3. Although I wouldn't mind if it went the horror route again, so long as they got it right this time around.

You took the words directly from my mouth. I always loved that style of 'kill everything and find the secret shit.' I'm sad they don't make games like that anymore.

id was my childhood (videogame wise), along with pokemon... and the first tony hawk skate game.

Edit: Also, Rage really wasn't that bad. I mean sure it's story was a little... underdeveloped, but it was fun and spent a good amount of time playing it. I also didnt have any graphical/technical problems like others did.

Part of me wonders if this was essentially a "Yes, our overlords dressed us down, but that wasn't intended for public consumption" sort of thing.

I will say that games like Rage make it seem like less and less of a good idea to buy/pre-order anything before you get to hear the reviews, though.

Who could believe that Bethesda would delay a game with technical problems anyway?
They've released some of the glitchiest titles this console cycle. These titles fly off the shelf anyway so why would Doom 4 all of a sudden be the one to get delayed.

will this teach them to not endorse allways on DRM and cut single player content? ... probably not not alot of learning in the industry.

It doesn't really matter. They aren't the revolutionary dev house they used to be. That is what happens when a studio goes from a group of gamers to a corporate environment. If they don't make it, it won't be a loss. I would rather somebody do with a newer engine, what was done with the Doom 3 engine, via mods. Namely, remake Ultimate Doom on it. OR better yet, make a new game based on that engine.

Everyone has moved on, they should too. That's not to say they won't ever make another fantastic game, but the only thing that is gonna happen with Doom 4 is that they will make a product that can't possibly compare to peoples expectations. I do have to say that it's disappointing they felt the need to mention their largest success stories on the box of a game that is nothing like them. It just feels like false advertising.

ryo02:
will this teach them to not endorse allways on DRM and cut single player content? ... probably not not alot of learning in the industry.

RAWR RAWR STEAMWORKS IS NOT UBIDRM RAWR RAWR.

Ahem.

While your concerns may be justified in that Steam's Offline Mode is decidedly flaky, at least it has an offline mode. With the worst level of UbiDRM and other always-on DRM, if you don't have a connection you can't even start the game. Lose connection during game? Booted back to the menu.

Delusibeta:

ryo02:
will this teach them to not endorse allways on DRM and cut single player content? ... probably not not alot of learning in the industry.

RAWR RAWR STEAMWORKS IS NOT UBIDRM RAWR RAWR.

Ahem.

While your concerns may be justified in that Steam's Offline Mode is decidedly flaky, at least it has an offline mode. With the worst level of UbiDRM and other always-on DRM, if you don't have a connection you can't even start the game. Lose connection during game? Booted back to the menu.

I wasnt refering to anything thats actually happened with ID or RAGE but one of the creators (I forget his name) publicly stated he thought allways on drm was a good thing.

Bethesda is working on Doom 4? This is news to me. When did Bethesda and id become so buddy-buddy?

tehweave:
Bethesda is working on Doom 4? This is news to me. When did Bethesda and id become so buddy-buddy?

Since Bethesda bought id. (Okay, it was ZeniMax that bought id, but ZeniMax was founded by the owners of Bethesda, so....)

Formica Archonis:

tehweave:
Bethesda is working on Doom 4? This is news to me. When did Bethesda and id become so buddy-buddy?

Since Bethesda bought id. (Okay, it was ZeniMax that bought id, but ZeniMax was founded by the owners of Bethesda, so....)

I think I'm okay with this.

I remember sitting in third grade math class playing Doom...Fond memories.

 

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