Nintendo Adds More Confusion to the Zelda Timeline

Nintendo Adds More Confusion to the Zelda Timeline

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Everything you thought you knew about the Legend of Zelda timeline might be wrong.

Legend of Zelda series overseer Eiji Aonuma has added even more confusion and uncertainty to the discussions about the Legend of Zelda timeline. Hardcore fans of the series will know that the chronological order of the games has been the subject of much debate over the years; debates made even more complicated by conflicting information coming from Nintendo.

Speaking about the series' music with GTTV, Aonuma said that all the games took place in a single timeline, but that it was secret and he couldn't tell people what it was. This might not seem like such a big deal, but it possibly contradicts previous comments that he made that the series' timeline split after Ocarina of Time, with Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess on one branch, and Wind Waker and its sequels on the other. Exactly where the other games fit on the timeline is the source of plenty of debate, but it seemed that that handful was at least set in stone. Of course, Aonuma could just be re-iterating that the series does have a chronological progression and isn't just a series of isolated stories, but the ambiguity of his statement is sure to reignite some old debates.

I'm starting to think that if there is a timeline for the games, it's the vaguest thing in the world. It's not a case of "Well, Skyward Sword is set two hundred years before Ocarina of Time, and Twilight Princess comes a hundred years after," but rather, "Skyward Sword is near the beginning, and Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time are kind of in the middle somewhere. Ocarina probably comes first though."

Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, which definitely (probably) comes before Ocarina of Time, comes out for the Wii on November 20th.

Source: via Shacknews

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I wish Zelda wasn't a Nintendo game. I don't like their products. Aside from Zelda anyways. Still, I'm tempted to finally buy a Wii just for this game.

I gave up trying to decypher the timeline after Windwaker, simply because if Hyrule is flooded in the past, then how can it be the past if the other games take place in the future ..............argh!!!!

I now just accept the Zelda games as pure challenging fun and to hell with the timeline.

oh what a tangled web we weave. i just going to ignore his last comment about all the games on one timeline, Unless each zelda is in an alternate universe, which would explain everything.

Don't worry, Doc Brown will sort it all out

... But that have actually stated that there is no timeline that unites all of the games.

I doubt if there actually is.

It's like saying the Pokemon games are on a set time line.

It doesn't matter. They are games. You will always be the young hero to save the princess.

I never bothered with a timeline. For this reason.

Shigeru Miyamoto wasn't expecting the first LoZ to be popular enough to have a sequel. If HE didn't know about any time-line, how do you people fabricate the order of the Zelda games go? And be right?

Screw the timeline. We don't need one. The games are already fun and plenty interesting without one.

Broady Brio:
I never bothered with a timeline. For this reason.

Shigeru Miyamoto wasn't expecting the first LoZ to be popular enough to have a sequel. If HE didn't know about any time-line, how do you people fabricate the order of the Zelda games go? And be right?

By being really full of yourself and ignoring official statements, like that jack-off on YouTube who made a video he calls the "official" Nintendo timeline despite the fact that he has no proof, that he's misusing the word official, and that Nintendo confirmed that his timeline is wrong. So yeah, the only thing official about that guy's video was that it's incorrect, and yet he goes around claiming it's the "official" correct timeline anyway. Sadly, YouTube doesn't seem to take as big an issue with the misleading video title as I do, because they never pulled it or forced a title change.

You just have to realize that such people are idiots in denial and ignore them.

My conclusion is the whole timeline thing is stirred mostly to keep the series in public mind in the years between games, much like releasing OoT again and again.

VoidWanderer:
... But that have actually stated that there is no timeline that unites all of the games.

I doubt if there actually is.

It's like saying the Pokemon games are on a set time line.

It doesn't matter. They are games. You will always be the young hero to save the princess.

But you aren't always trying to save the princess and they never said that they were all individual stories I am sure some people have but the guys in charge of it all certainly never said that.

If anything, they are a huge distance apart, and it's a curse that anyone named Link and Zelda are destined to have shitty lives. Maybe they are reincarnated every millennium so they can do the same shit again.

Otherwise, there is no way that Link would be surprised that there is such a thing as the Master Sword like 10 times. I'm pretty sure he would've remembered something like that.

Honestly the timeline is more like numerous revamps of the same tone and themes over and over again.

Broady Brio:
I never bothered with a timeline. For this reason.

Shigeru Miyamoto wasn't expecting the first LoZ to be popular enough to have a sequel. If HE didn't know about any time-line, how do you people fabricate the order of the Zelda games go? And be right?

well ya but the first games plot is really simple and straight forward after that the second game was a direct sequel and from there it was obvious the series was doing well so a timeline would have been easy to keep up.

Atheist.:
I wish Zelda wasn't a Nintendo game. I don't like their products. Aside from Zelda anyways. Still, I'm tempted to finally buy a Wii just for this game.

I'm sure the WiiU will have backwards compatibility to the Wii, so you might as well wait for that. If you haven't bought a Wii yet, I wouldn't buy one now. I can't believe you didn't play the first Wii game (which title I can't think of for some reason, despite it being an awesome game).

OT: I would figure that Windwaker would be absolutely last... you know, after global warming has covered the world with water from melted ice caps and all (not that it would happen that way if the ice caps did melt(The japanese didn't have the benefit of Mr Wizards World)).

Krakyn:
If anything, they are a huge distance apart, and it's a curse that anyone named Link and Zelda are destined to have shitty lives. Maybe they are reincarnated every millennium so they can do the same shit again.

Otherwise, there is no way that Link would be surprised that there is such a thing as the Master Sword like 10 times. I'm pretty sure he would've remembered something like that.

It takes place over many generations I can't remember which game it was but basically it explains that there is a tradition of naming princess's Zelda within the royal family hence why there is always a Zelda. As for link well you name him in all the games and they never reference his name between games or even in the games they always just mention some kind of hero from the past or the name you decided to give him.

Yesterday, I finally found a timeline for these games I understood. Now....AHHHHHHHHH. FU-damn it! Damn it! Damn!...For the sake of my sanity...maybe he just means "it takes place in one universe".

Goddamn it.

I think that at some point Nintendo should actually reveal the timeline, I'm not entirely convinced that it actually exists.

Spoiler! Skyward Sword is the first in the time-line, but there is no link! Instead, Twilight Princess Link ends up traveling back in time after accidentally having an entire Orchestra play the Song of Time on his wedding day. It wasn't an immediate effect though, only kicking in just as him and Zelda were about to "consummate" their marriage. The result being of course, he gets picked the shit out of by people and is stuck having to make the Master Sword and all that jazz...

And yes, Link was cock-blocked by time itself. Harsh.

aba1:
As for link well you name him in all the games and they never reference his name between games or even in the games they always just mention some kind of hero from the past or the name you decided to give him.

Actually, Navi refers to Link when she calls out to him in Ocarina of Time.

Just when I finally thought I understood the timeline :(
Oh well, the game will still be awesome.

I think a far more potent question that has yet to be answered is: What is in fact the chronological order of the Mario series??? When did he become paper? When did he fight that kung-fu master cricket, Jinx? When did everyone learn how to play base ball???

WE NEED ANSWERS NINTENDO!

I wish they'd make up their bloody minds. At one point they said there was no timeline and now they're saying there is one. Which is it Nintendo? AUGH!
Fuck it! I don't care what Nintendo says, as far as I'm concerned the games are all separate unconnected entities, with the exception of a few titles that are obviously linked.

I'm not a huge fan of Zelda games taking place before Ocarina of Time. I feel like the Link in that game set the standard that all other Links have been aspiring to since then. I mean, it's pretty heavily implied that that's the case for both Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.

The secret is that there really is no timeline and they're just making it up as they go along, and for some reason instead of coming clean they are just digging themselves a bigger and bigger hole that will make them look like asshats when they finally spew out some timeline and gamers who have been dissecting and analyzing for years will call foul when it doesn't really fit the details.

VoidWanderer:

It's like saying the Pokemon games are on a set time line.

...but they are. Gen 1 (Red/Blue/Yellow) and 3 (Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald) are set at the same time, Gen 2 (Gold/Silver) and 4 (Diamond/Pearl) are both set 3 years after Gen 1&3, and Gen 5 (Black/White) is set a few years after Gen 2&4. All the various spin-off games take place throughout the timeline.

Logan Westbrook:

Everything you thought you knew about the Legend of Zelda timeline might be wrong.


Yeah... I just couldn't help myself.

When it comes to continuity in the Zelda series, I don't even bother trying to understand it anymore. I just treat every game like it's taking place in it's own little standalone universe.

I'm one of those not fussed - Zelda for me has never really been about an overarching story, more about the little ones that help build each individual game.

I place a lot more weight on the Kafei and Anju sidequest in Majora's Mask than I do on whether Link wasted half his childhood on a boat before or after he grew an alarming amount of body hair.

VoidWanderer:
It's like saying the Pokemon games are on a set time line.

...there is. Ever played Pokemon Gold? It's set a few years later than the originals. How about Ruby? Ash is described briefly (which got me to assume it was later, but he's never referred to by name, so it might have been someone else, I suppose). I can't speak to either of the two newer generations, though. Also...there is a 'world map' with every area on it.

I never even tried to puzzle out the Zelda timeline. I've never actually been terribly involved in Link's journeys. If it is one timeline...what an awful life Link has lead.

dstryfe:

...there is. Ever played Pokemon Gold? It's set a few years later than the originals. How about Ruby? Ash is described briefly (which got me to assume it was later, but he's never referred to by name, so it might have been someone else, I suppose). I can't speak to either of the two newer generations, though. Also...there is a 'world map' with every area on it.

I never even tried to puzzle out the Zelda timeline. I've never actually been terrible involved in Link's journeys. If it is one timeline...what an awful life Link has lead.

I've always been a fan of "Link is the avatar" theory of a new hero of time (and consequently new Zelda) reincarnating every so often to combat Ganon coming back over and over again.

It's kind of hinted at in the series that the protagonists are at least not the same Link/Zelda in most games, like when Ganon says "come back to torment your descendents" in OoT.

The only thing I know about the Zelda timeline is that the second game is the last one chronologically, which always seemed weird to me. Why not make something after that in stead of confining yourself in a set 20-ish years when all those years have long since run out, and they have to make up more timelines?

I guess that in the end they'll make a game where they explain that all the games are different incarnations and they all have to band together to fight. Imagine, a game with 20 Links, Zeldas and Ganons.

Er...isn't Skyward Sword the very first game chronologically? Because the Master Sword gets created during the game.

If it's the first game, then it wouldn't mess up the timeline at all, right?

 

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