Apple Voted Largest Influence On Gaming Industry

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So 1000 professionals voted in this survey...was this survey only for investors who pretend to know anything about the industry and then voted for the corporation who is the most successful in milking their customers (e.g. every new iphone generates roughly more than double of its costs as profit)?

I'm sorry but how has Steve Jobs been more influential than Shigeru Miyamoto. Miyamoto saved video gaming after the crash. Without him the I-phone wouldn't have games on it in the first place.

I don't have a HUGE problem with saying the iPhone has shaped the industry more than the Xbox or PS3 or whatever. Maybe the Wii, but I could definitely let it slide. But saying that Jobs has had more influence than Miyamoto? Or Newell?

There's a word for this: wrong.

had the guy and his iphone impact on the industry? well yeah, but only in recent years and still not that much compared to nintendo, sony or miccrosft. heck, i would even say that sega had more impact on the game industry.

L10nH3ArT:
Well the article forgets to add in the fact that the survey was given at a convention that mostly focuses on handheld technology such as android, iproducts and the like.

Add in that fact and it kinda makes this a no brainer.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/benzingainsights/2011/11/02/steve-jobs-voted-most-influential-man-in-video-games-igniting-a-firestorm-of-complaints/

Ah that makes sense. They were all probably drunk and so rather than having actual thoughts and opinions they just went with whatever they were doing at the time. Most influental man? I'm using an iphone - it's steve jobs!!! I'm updating facebook - it's zuckerberg!!! Most influential hardware - etc etc.

Sigh...more Jobs death pity...

What the iPhone did to indie games and the gaming industry was huge and, probably, the biggest change to gaming in 2 decades or so. But the biggest influence ever? I think the very first computer game coders and the NES (and perhaps even the pioneers of 3D games) would like to have a word with you.

You know, this immediately reminds me of a show I saw a while back of the "Top 100 Inventions that changed the world." Topping the list was the iPhone, which baffled me, because the Internet, Computer, Cellular Phone, and MP3 Player were all anywhere from 10-50 spots BELOW this singular culmination of the above. It actually pissed me off a bit, because their logic was "this list is based off items which, without them, your life would not function (as well)" and all I could think of is "If you don't have Internet, the iPhone is worthless, and if not for all the innovations of computers and information technology, the iPhone wouldn't exist. And who the hell could live without Light Bulbs (somewhere in the middle of the list) but wouldn't be able to function without their damn iPhone???"

Honestly, fine, if we're talking strictly about the present industry, then yes, I suppose the iPhone with its near monopoly over the casual market is becoming a force to be reckoned with. But seriously, to just ignore all of Nintendo's achievements, namely being the original driving force of POPULARIZING video games, not to mention the achievements of several other companies and individuals to help make video games as mainstream as they are, is so sickeningly perverse that I want to find the supposed 1000 "video game industry professionals" and force them at gunpoint to revoke all privileges of working in this industry.

Survey skewed due to recent death of Steve Jobs. I can't honestly think of a game that was produced solely due to, by, or in connection with Apple that changed the face of gaming in any significant way.

iPhone for top 5 all-time? Most iPhone games are glorified browser games, and Apple doesn't even make most of the games. With that, how does Steve Jobs even make the poll?

As far as someone with the most influence over gaming ever, there's not even competition. Shigeru Miyamoto all the way.

What "industry professionals" did the voting anyway? Was it mostly people who started playing games because of their phone and had no other contact with games before?

Edit: I just looked back at the link of the second page. Dumb, biased survey is dumb and biased.

I think people are confusing those silly iPhone games to real games on the console and pc.Now say what you will,A game is a game no matter the platform but true video games are on consoles and Pc(arcade to I guess).Now if their is ever a legit Angry Birds gaming tournament like there is with Starcraft then an only then will I accept iPhone games as serious games worth playing.Until then they are just a cheap way to waste time on the bus or wile taking a shit.

so let me guess because the douchbag died recently they all wana give him praise for shit he didnt do?

Fuck the people who made this.

This has to be a joke? Right...right? Seriously, no. Just no. The man did some influential things in his lifetime, but the biggest gaming influence? That's just laughable.

This survey really means nothing. It was completely unfocused and open ended. Secondly it is news biased. That is what has happened recently/talked about carries more weight.

That said the iphone being on the top spot does make some sense. The advent of portable cheap games like Angry Birds and just the massive library its capable of holding changed portable gaming completely. Of course there are other devices that happened around the same time and do similar things, but the iphone is the most well known.

Steve Jobs #1 on the most influential people (or even on it) doesn't sit well with me. He didn't do much if anything for gaming himself. His focus was also never on gaming. The iphone sort of snowballed into the roll based on the app market. He himself didn't actually do much except be the CEO of the company that sold the iphone.

Long story short: The iphone actually deserves a spot/mention in the top 5 (perhaps not #1). To be fair I would say smartphones rather than just the iphone as they all did/do the same thing. The iphone just so happened to be very popular in its advent. Steve Jobs did nothing for gaming himself, and thus deserves no mention.

They really need to re-run this survey once the apple sympathy crap goes away. I mean, if anything, if you're talking about OS development companies, Bill Gates did far more than Apple ever did for the gaming industry. Hell, Linux even has a stronger user base than iOS.

They seriously voted the guy that wouldn't even allow flash on a damn phone as influential in gaming? Yeah maybe because he forced developers to find workarounds to their overly limiting restrictions in the name of protecting corporate profits.

AmrasCalmacil:
This... Pardon?
What the hell did this survey look like?

How has Steve Jobs done more than Shigeru Miyamoto?

How has he done more than Gaben?

Robert Ewing:
Erm, I don't know about you guys, but when I think of gamings biggest triumphs, I don't think of Steve Jobs or apple...

I think of Steam, and Gabe Newell... I think of Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo, Sega, all that jazz. NOWHERE on that list would I have ever in a million years thought Apple...

Sucking up to his death a bit?

Of coarse you don't think of apple, remember there console?

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Yeah...

They did nothing. yes, they created a platform that makes it easy to copy/paste flashgames, but that's it.
I seriously take offense to this.

No one who has made a game on the Iphone really poured their heart and soul into it, no one. Jobs didn't even make games, he made a computer, and then oversaw a bunch of other people.

And yes, these guys must be major suckups.

unacomn:
"has shaped videogames more than any other device or console,"
I believe that honor goes to the Xbox 360, since just about every multiplatform PC game for the past 6 years has been a crappy 360 port.

And as for the people poll. Steve Jobs hated games. He went on an hour long tirade with Ron Gilbert, telling him that you can't tell a story in a game.
Where's Sid Meier in that poll, heck, where's Garriot or Peter Molyneux?

This poll is rigged, rigged I tell you!

I'm sorry, fact check. Especially lending to how games are made, most 360 games are PC ports. Games for Windows. The rest of your post is spot on.

MASTACHIEFPWN:

AmrasCalmacil:
This... Pardon?
What the hell did this survey look like?

How has Steve Jobs done more than Shigeru Miyamoto?

How has he done more than Gaben?

Robert Ewing:
Erm, I don't know about you guys, but when I think of gamings biggest triumphs, I don't think of Steve Jobs or apple...

I think of Steam, and Gabe Newell... I think of Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo, Sega, all that jazz. NOWHERE on that list would I have ever in a million years thought Apple...

Sucking up to his death a bit?

Of coarse you don't think of apple, remember there console?

image
Yeah...

They did nothing. yes, they created a platform that makes it easy to copy/paste flashgames, but that's it.
I seriously take offense to this.

No one who has made a game on the Iphone really poured their heart and soul into it, no one. Jobs didn't even make games, he made a computer, and then oversaw a bunch of other people.

And yes, these guys must be major suckups.

Just like how eevery pop star and their mom tries to compare their looks and dance moves to Mick Jagger despite him being an ugly dude who can't dance. Sing? Yeah he can do that, like how Jobs came up with some innovative product ideas, but crediting him with inspiring the game industry is like saying Jagger danced better than Michael Jackson. Our society just doesn't remember anything before the nineties.

"According to industry professionals"

It's pretty much widely know that most "professionals" from any industries have absolutely no idea what's better for the user.(Example? DRM) I mean, "professional" doesn't even mean good. It means getting money for doing something. Heck, if I get 5 bucks from my neighbor for cutting his lawn, I'm a professional lawncutter. Not that it means anything at all.

How can they even name Jobs as a influence in the gaming industry if he doesn't have any connection to it? Ok, he made the graphical interface for PC, but that's hardly a influence, he probably played on arcades when he was in university. His company made the Iphone? Yeah, but Iphone can hardly be considered a "important" gaming station. It's very welcoming to Indie companies, but it's so goddamn overrated. Let's take one as example. Angry birds. It's a good game? Yeah, the controls are good, and its addicting. The art direction is nice, and the game does looks good. But before the Iphone was even launched, there were probably hundreds of flash games with the EXACTLY SAME GAMEPLAY.

Jobs is a great man, but I hardly find he a influence bigger than Miyamoto or Gabe.

....This poll seems a little...skewed.

I have to see as a lot of people more influential on gaming than Mr. Jobs. Maybe his com-any helped create something to make it more accessible, but that's about it on his end.

He died recently. Most people don't even know who Miyamoto or Newell are or their accomplishments.

Wow, the most retarded list I've ever seen - 'gaming professionals'? They'd have bee more likely to get an accurate list, if they did a 50/50 chance tournament, conducted by a seal selecting which picture on which slice of fish he wanted to have.

Wii? Xbox Live?

Where's the GameBoy? The Nintendo Entertainment System? 1 of those 5 were right, the Playstation, but even the Dreamcast should have some mention, since two generations later the consoles haven't really moved that far beyond it.

Apple 2E was more influencial than the iPhone. What a bogus article hey?

This is a really terrible poll. Steve Jobs did little for gaming. He didn't have anything to do with games at all. The iPhone is able to play games and that's about as far as Steve Jobs' influence on gaming goes. Some one like American McGee has had more effect on gaming.

Another day, another thread that dry humps Steve Jobs, Apple,
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and this fucking image.

And another argument between gamers regarding the legitimacy of mobile phones as a gaming platform. Which, by the way, I choose quality over quantity

Mike Kayatta:

Steve Jobs 26%
Gabe Newell 16%
Shigeru Miyamoto 7%
Tim Berners-Lee 4%
Mark Zuckerberg 3%

But I'll take my time anywhere
I'm free to speak my mind
And I'll redefine anywhere
Anywhere I roam
Where I lay my head is home

Carved upon my stone
My body lie, but still I roam yeah yeah!!

I can see where they're coming from. The smartphone did usher in a whole lot of creativity and innovation that had hitherto been only seen on indie PC game scene. Stuff like Angry Birds certainly made the medium a great deal more accessible and attractive. That said, it seems downright odd to omit John Carmack. It would be interesting to see their exact criteria and reasoning.

Recently yes he probably deserves to be in the top 10 of most influential people in Gaming despite his hatred for it but of all time no he shouldn't be in the top ten. Then as someone said this was done at a convention for handhelds so the bias is understandable.

Survey is not legitimate. Tell me how Wii, xbox live, PS1, iPhone, and Steam are directly comparable? The iPhone probably opened up video gaming to more people, but the Wii did that as well. Please people. This is a poor survey.

Of course the iPhone and Steve Jobs are at the top of the list, just look at all they have given us.
Thanks to the iPhone, we now have a device with which we can play games using a touchscreen!
Oh...wait...nevermind, the Nintendo DS came out three years earlier.
But they gave us a big digital distribution service from which we could buy games!
What's that you say? Steam came out four years before the iPhone?
Well, they still game us a device on which you can play games on the go! What's that? Game and Watch? Well it can't be that old, I mean, it probably came out way back in the year 2000.
What's that? 1980, you say?...

Huh.

Well how the fuck did it get voted first place?

I have the same opinion about why Jobs won as everyone else. Not much to add to discussion, is there?

MrDeckard:
Ok, now where is "Browser Games" with a %25?

I know Apple HAS had an influence on gaming, but I think the reason for this poll being the way it is, is less about Apple being a gaming giant and more about the fact that most people already HAVE an Iphone and the games were immediately available.

Also, "Industry Professionals"? You mean the guys who repeatedly predict gaming about as accurately as weather casters?

Hey, give weathermen SOME credit.

I think it's safe to say we all agree that Steve Jobs being the number 1 most influential person is...unlikely. Therefore, I choose to look at the rest of the results.

Hm, Newell more influential than Miyamoto? I'd argue in favor of Mario, Zelda, and the entirety of consoles if we're looking long term positive influence. But Steam is definately more influential in recent years, popularizing digital distribution. That said, Wii uses motion controles, and then suddenly the other consoles do too...

According to industry professionals,

GOD DAMN IT GOD DAMN IT GOD DAMN IT ALL TO HELL!!!!

Its those damn self proclaimed "experts" running their mouths spewing bullshit about shit they didn't bother to research again!
god almighty damn, this is the third article in two days that have done this on this sight alone and im already about to crack my head in with a brick!
im have a bloody stroke (as in literally bloody, some one get me a tissue) because every person that is supposed to research stuff is being a fucking twat and saying the stupidest shit ive ever heard!

thats or this is some major trolling.

That's just fucking depressing.
I don't own a single product that man created or marketed.
The fuck did he do for my gaming? Nothing.

Oh wells. Just moving right along...

Steve was never the greatest, just the loudest.

Eh, this seems more like a marketing/publicity stunt thing than anything else.

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