Australian Attorney General Calls For Violent Videogame Ban

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Yahtzee, time to make a video to get your fellow citizens to protest. DON'T LET IT BECOME LIKE WHAT TOKYO DID WITH ANIMANGA!!!

Thyunda:
"Simulation, yes - the real thing, no."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't all videogame sex simulated? Maybe if a Kinect game demanded you and your partner get it on to beat the level, it would make sense...but I can't see what's going on here....

Sadly not a person who bought that game would have the necessary tools to complete that level.

Whyso:
damnit micheal atkinson, i really hate being a constitutional monarchy

Dude, Atkinson is a backbencher now and has been for a while. He's got no say in the debate anymore. This latest round of ridiculousness is coming from NSW, it's not SA's fault this time. Let us off the hook for once.

Metalrocks:

SomeLameStuff:
Oh Australia, keep reminding me why I moved out of you...

lol, this makes 2 of us.
retards for leaders, and now it sounds like they want to imitate the german laws by banning and cutting things out.
makes oyu wonder how idiots can get a job in politics.

The only people who get jobs in politics are idiots. Because anyone with a brainstem attached realised long ago that its a job for morons or those who were so bullied as kids they went into politics on a massive and dangerous power trip.

No I am not talking about Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd respectively...

On topic these idiots will be gone soon to be replaced by younglings who understand the will of the people (hopefully). I am sure when gen Y is old, decrepit and in politics we will be harumphing and banning the same sorts of things.

Australian government, I am disappoint.

We allowed a movie like Wolf Creek to be seen by adults. We allow Boogeyman 2 to be seen by adults. So what is wrong with games like GTA being allowed here? Here's to hoping Yahtzee goes all out on this.

I wonder, with all the time Australian politicians sit around shouting at eachother, can't they spend some and play a videogame for 5 minutes?

The mere ability to kill a prostitute after sex... is that "sexual violence"?

It's old fashioned passionless mugging, just because the character is a prostitute does not make her inherently sexual in all aspects. Isn't that being a bit unfair on sex-workers, to judge everything on their sexuality. Maybe the player is jsut greedy and wants his money back.

Sexual violence would be something like a rape simulator, or a game where you could beat up naked people. Not ANY violence to do with women or sex-workers.

See I wonder why these sort of people focus on the ability to kill prostitutes when:
(1) it is 100% your choice, you can kill anyone at any time
(2) why not focus on killing old ladies, police officers or anyone else you meet on the crazy streets of Liberty City.

I think he is trying to make out GTA to be something it isn't. It's just as bad to kill a prostitute as to kill a cop, the thing is you can imply sexual-violence with sex-workers that you can't with police. And that's what people get paranoid about.

Video games did it! They did it all! Everything wrong in the world, can't you see!

Oh for fuck sakes......Didn't we spend this whole FUCKING YEAR trying to sort this mess out and get games recognized properly as a medium. Urgh....

Twice in one week i've had to use that clip now. God i hate this damned country of Australia sometimes. Ok, maybe not the country, but the idiot's in charge..definitely.

Von Strimmer:

The only people who get jobs in politics are idiots. Because anyone with a brainstem attached realised long ago that its a job for morons or those who were so bullied as kids they went into politics on a massive and dangerous power trip.

No I am not talking about Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd respectively...

On topic these idiots will be gone soon to be replaced by younglings who understand the will of the people (hopefully). I am sure when gen Y is old, decrepit and in politics we will be harumphing and banning the same sorts of things.

lol. maybe.
why did i go to school then? dont do anything and i could have made tones of money by just lying to everyone. dont have any ideas and bang, you are a politician.

would be nice if younger people can be elected. even my father said he wants younger once because their ideas are better then the old school once who really know jack shit about anything or simply dont keep up with times.

Seriously government of Aus, stop fucking around with what we consider fun. Just because you don't have it doesn't give you a right to stop us having it.

Metalrocks:

Von Strimmer:

The only people who get jobs in politics are idiots. Because anyone with a brainstem attached realised long ago that its a job for morons or those who were so bullied as kids they went into politics on a massive and dangerous power trip.

No I am not talking about Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd respectively...

On topic these idiots will be gone soon to be replaced by younglings who understand the will of the people (hopefully). I am sure when gen Y is old, decrepit and in politics we will be harumphing and banning the same sorts of things.

lol. maybe.
why did i go to school then? dont do anything and i could have made tones of money by just lying to everyone. dont have any ideas and bang, you are a politician.

would be nice if younger people can be elected. even my father said he wants younger once because their ideas are better then the old school once who really know jack shit about anything or simply dont keep up with times.

Aha Good sir there is a young politician by the name of Wyatt Roy. Who you may ask? Well that kind of illustrates my next point of a politician is a politician :p universally useless no matter what the age, gender or race.

I honestly blame this big brother media towards politics we seem to have adopted. Everything is streamed now so a politician cant do anything without having a vocal minority kick them to electoral oblivion. Certainly we get politicians who wont declare war on some fairly large and harmless country, but we also dont get politicians with steely balls who have the ability to say NO or YES to stupid and sensible ideas respectively.

Also consider this :p. Maybe the politicians never left school :p

/rant

Ok I'm an Aussie and id just like to say to all my american friends out there, This is why the occational political assassination (and im talking about with a bullit here, not with a dirty photo of the polly blowing a transvestite or somthing) and/or revolution is actuly a good thing from time to time. Tragic when it happens but it does provide just enough fear to keep most of the f***ing morons out of office. Or at least make them pay attention to the people there pissing off.

Hello again Broken Record player.

Are they trying to make us torrent games? Seriously if they ban GTA then I will still be able to get it in 15 minutes and the internet.

Australia seems to be unable to get out of the Iron Curtain show. New SSRS guys?
i mean heck they even started banning the internet, just look at porn ban scandal.

Shall we face the facts?
-Controversial issues, such as video game censorship, are easily capitolised into votes.
-They aren't stupid persay, just ignorant and misguided, they are from another time. A terrible example would be when you are old, game companies bring out a game where you play as the KKK or something.
-They won't win, in terms of censorship that is, the enevidable media storm when they attempt to fully implement extreme measures will ensure a divided vote.

On a personal note:
-Yes I despise them for their ignorance as much as anyone else.
-I wish I could move to Canada. One day...

Patrick_and_the_ricks:
Does Australia even have Freedom of speech?

Yes and No.

'Freedom of Speech' Is an implied right as it's not stated in the Australian Constitution but the High Court interpreted article 19(2) "Freedom of communication on political matters" thus enabled us to slander politicians but speak freely about anything else will resign with the principle of prima facie: The fact is true unless proven otherwise meaning you can be sued for defamation.

It's interesting how much politicians care about virtual prostitutes, but when it comes to protecting real prostitutes from trafficking and abuse, they couldn't give less of a shit.

Honestly reading the list of stuff in R18+ games I can't blame them.I mean when did games start to decide that more "mature" themes made them better?

This is getting ridiculous, I'm honestly starting to expect a news story about Australia deporting all people's caught with video games.

I didn't even have to read the article before facepalming. Look at his damn face. Look. At his damn face.

These fuckers are ruining an amazing country filled with amazing people and it upsets me on a deeper level than electronic entertainment.

Welcome back to Michael Atkinson's fascism.

The hell is that guy giving me a troll face?

Not really much to debate here, unfortunately. Folks like him are control freaks unable to deal with other people having different tastes in entertainment. Their inability to understand the appeal of said entertainment leads them to want to control or outright remove it. Bear in mind, there's a lot of people like that, but at least most of them don't have political power haha.

I shall reffer you to my previous post;

"Once again the Aussie Government seems to have the issue Completely Upside down . I mean how topsy tervy is their judicial/legal/parlimetary system that they have to spend so long effectively sat playing with their Dingos because of a couple of ill informed hacks? It Fosters resentment from gamers who have had to put up with a Sheepish pro-ratings lobby and the innefectiveness of their government, at the moment if someone wants to play a game uncensored and in its original glory they effectively get treated like a Convict since importing those unrrated or banned games is illegal.

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Kangeroos! "

I've done it! I've gone back in time! Escapists! There will be a black president! Dragon Age 2 will suck! Ponies are the best things ever!

Fellow Escapists
Granted I never usually comment on forums but when Greg smith kicked in to the Video Game debate I found myself unable to stand back...mainly because I know the guy personally since he goes to my church down here. So now that he refuses to put the R18+ rating i am forced to ask for one thing.

DAMMIT GREG! why can't you be a reasonable PERSON?!?!?!

I guess the next time i see sometime this week, I'm going to sit him down, talk to him slowly and if that fails, challenge him to a singstar competition

yes....this guys actually sings in public about political issues to drill a point home. I hope he never writes a song about this one though.

Scarecrow 8:

Sandytimeman:
Why does yahtzee like living in that country again?

Because in terms of everything else besides this stupid video game debate, Australia is better off than most contries.

except that, hes primary means of income is through GAMES, and he runs a bar centered around GAMES. So it seems like Australia is trying to him out of a job or make his job harder.

Sandytimeman:

Scarecrow 8:

Sandytimeman:
Why does yahtzee like living in that country again?

Because in terms of everything else besides this stupid video game debate, Australia is better off than most contries.

except that, hes primary means of income is through GAMES, and he runs a bar centered around GAMES. So it seems like Australia is trying to him out of a job or make his job harder.

That's a fair point, but he likes to think of it as the 'having the world's nicest beaches' tax.

"Sexual activity must not be related to incentives or rewards."

Because clearly there are no incentives or rewards related to sex in real life.

Also the GTA example pisses me off. Yes, you're able to pay a prostitute and then kill her afterwards. But does the game tell you to do this? No. Is there a reward for this? No. If anything, the game punishes this by giving you a police star.

IT'S CALLED FREE WILL GUYS. JUST BECAUSE IT'S AN OPTION DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE GAME CONDONES IT.

/ragecaps

Lordbishop:

Patrick_and_the_ricks:
Does Australia even have Freedom of speech?

Yes and No.

'Freedom of Speech' Is an implied right as it's not stated in the Australian Constitution but the High Court interpreted article 19(2) "Freedom of communication on political matters" thus enabled us to slander politicians but speak freely about anything else will resign with the principle of prima facie: The fact is true unless proven otherwise meaning you can be sued for defamation.

Also, idk where the line is drawn in the Australian Constitution, but it's unclear if this could be protected under free speech in the American Constitution anyways. Profanity, defined as offensive speech with no redeeming social value, is not protected under the first amendment. And given the Australian government's tighter morals considering video games, I think they might be more likely to use this distinction to their advantage.

Thyunda:
"Simulation, yes - the real thing, no."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't all videogame sex simulated? Maybe if a Kinect game demanded you and your partner get it on to beat the level, it would make sense...but I can't see what's going on here....

I also thought this. Do they think people regularly have sex with their consoles or something? And even if they did get it on to beat the level, what are they gonna do? Prevent all couples from having consensual sex ever?

Is this news? Hasn't this shit been happening in Australia since forever?

Okay, I can see wanting to protect kids from violence or other offensive material, but I think this goes a bit far. The biggest problem I have with restrictive rating systems is that a faceless group is dictating what kids are or aren't mature enough to play. This responsibility, in my opinion, should fall on parents.

I agree that violent video games should be banned. He is 100% correct and I am absolutely behind him. They can be a bad influence and as such should be banned.

I'm a little confused by the rating system proposed at the bottom of the article. Does Australia use the ESRB ratings? Is this a different system? Or a new system they're proposing altogether?

Giftfromme:
I agree that violent video games should be banned. He is 100% correct and I am absolutely behind him. They can be a bad influence and as such should be banned.

For your sake, I really hope you're trolling.

Lorechaser:
I hear that you can use MS Paint to draw pictures of bad things. We should ban MS Paint.

you, sir, have earned a cookie:

I would'nt eat it though, i got it from a gypsy at the old indian burial ground.
(It might have raisens in it >:P)

OT: I not really worried about a +18 game ban. Even if it passes, it will be repealed when this guy is laughed out of office.

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