Ubisoft Kills Ghost Recon: Future Soldier on PC

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MianusIzBleeding:
First off, I defy any PC gamer to say they haven't pirated a game before....seriously. It's rife on PC

Secondly, to people bitching about Ubisofts DRM. I think always online DRM is a good thing and heres why:
They want to know that the copy of, say, Assassins Creed you are playing is a legit copy. The old CD key tactic is pretty much useless due to the sheer amount of Keygens floating about the web. Therefore, always online DRM allows them to check that the copy you are playing is legal.
If you made a game that cost a tonne to develop you would want to make sure no one pirated it, right? Well thats what Ubisoft are doing...

Anyone remember the opening BIOS screen from the PlayStation:
Piracy harms consumers as well as developers

Well thats been proven correct I reckon

Piracy as well as PC gamers bitching about Ubisofts apparently disgusting protection of its games has just lost the PC a developer

Give yourselves a hearty pat on the back

Thats bullshit, Ive never pirated a game..and I dont accept the "ohh come on,,I bet you ARE a pirate" as an argument

DRM and pricay seem to be two big problems that make eath other worse..yes piracy sucks but PUNISHING YOUR PAYING CUSTOMERS in NOT the right way to go about it, its the fucking stupid way to go about it

PC gamers have to deal with shitty ports, less suport and DRM and now they get told they are "bitching" for being treated badly, I dont buy it

this is all part of the reason I got a console....god help us if all the bullshit starts affecting them (with all this fuss over used games)

Frostbite3789:

Treblaine:
"people who make illegal copies" which as thieving goes is pretty fucking far down on the chain of wrongness in stealing, I think it is Juuuust above stealing a loaf of bread to feed your starving family.

...that blew my mind. With just how foolish it is. I mean, really? Comparing stealing entertainment to stealing to feed one's starving family. Did that really just happen? I get hyperbole and all, but c'mon.

Fair enough.

But is it really as bad as comparing illegal-copying with the most notorious and reviled armed robbers and rapists of the high seas, that is: pirates.

Not a single fuck was given. I haven't so much as looked at a Ubisoft game since the inception of their always on DRM and I wasn't a PC gamer until this year. If they feel so strongly about this whole thing without any proof whatsoever, then fuck them. They aren't worthy of my money, nor are they worthy of my bandwidth if I were a pirate.

As I said before, if this is the future of gaming, I have no qualms with simply not playing anymore. I barely play any games these days anyways. Bethesda and Valve still get my money since they actually support PC gamers, and they don't bitch incessantly about pirates. Aside from those two, the rest can burn in hell for all I care.

Not like Ubisoft was ever particularly friendly to PC gamers, what with all the DRM and terrible ports.
But at least this gives me a reason to save some money.

Damn, who will I get my terrible console ports with invasive DRM from now? Oh wait, no where because I have never bought a Ubisoft game for my PC and never plan to. Go away Ubisoft.

TitanAtlas:

Why don't they adopt a system like on Steam...

Cause we all know how well 'systems like steam'(but who are not steam) have been received by people...

XD

MianusIzBleeding:
First off, I defy any PC gamer to say they haven't pirated a game before....seriously. It's rife on PC

Secondly, to people bitching about Ubisofts DRM. I think always online DRM is a good thing and heres why:
They want to know that the copy of, say, Assassins Creed you are playing is a legit copy. The old CD key tactic is pretty much useless due to the sheer amount of Keygens floating about the web. Therefore, always online DRM allows them to check that the copy you are playing is legal.
If you made a game that cost a tonne to develop you would want to make sure no one pirated it, right? Well thats what Ubisoft are doing...

Anyone remember the opening BIOS screen from the PlayStation:
Piracy harms consumers as well as developers

Well thats been proven correct I reckon

Piracy as well as PC gamers bitching about Ubisofts apparently disgusting protection of its games has just lost the PC a developer

Give yourselves a hearty pat on the back

I've never pirated a game. Do I win a prize?

OT: My PC can't run any new games, so I'm not so upset. I can't play the new Zelda either, oh well, I'll live.

Fuck you too Ubi.

I decided yesterday that I'm never buying your stuff again.

Now, I might as well pirate all your stuff.
You treat me like a pirate, I might as well act like one

Vault101:
this is all part of the reason I got a console....god help us if all the bullshit starts affecting them (with all this fuss over used games)

Well it's gotten significantly easier to pirate console games this generation. You never know, it's likely to go that route on top of used games.

*The following statement is not directed at you*

The ignorance in this thread is mind blowing.

Kanova:
I'm not really surprised. Most of the people I know torrent and I am sure that a huge amount of people torrent PC games. They sure do lose a ton of money to pirates. A lot. So, yeah. I guess that is what happens.

Judging by the reactions in this thread, a lot of people don't pirate. There isn't an efficient way of finding out how many people do it, and it's even more impossible to calculate how many of them would buy the game if they had to, they're just pirating for teh lulz, or any other reason.

Waaghpowa:

Vault101:
this is all part of the reason I got a console....god help us if all the bullshit starts affecting them (with all this fuss over used games)

Well it's gotten significantly easier to pirate console games this generation. You never know, it's likely to go that route on top of used games.

Meh, it was pretty easy to pirate games even in the PS1 era. 10 to chip a PS1 and there was a group of guys in the town market who sold pirated games for a fiver each. Sure, you were still paying money (which you weren't with the PC), but drastically less than you would even buying used and in this instance, the money wasn't even going to retailers. It went to a bunch of guys selling stuff out of the back of a truck.

Okay, I know that Piracy is a legitimate problem, but this is not how it should be handled. I'm not saying I know the way to fix it, but I'd rather try than eliminate an entire group of people. I think that this is also Very much overreacting (Ie. Look at Skyrim's Sales: 7 million in two days I think?)
To bad, I liked their games too.

It's okay, I lost faith in ubisoft after their douchebag level of support for Vegas 2. Dumped it in the market, "Here's your game. No, we don't do updates, and no, we don't do troubleshooting." Considering the number of bugs in the game, I felt bad wasting the $10 on that shoddy piece of software. I haven't bought an ubisoft game since. This just solidifies the deal.

Amnestic:

Waaghpowa:

Vault101:
this is all part of the reason I got a console....god help us if all the bullshit starts affecting them (with all this fuss over used games)

Well it's gotten significantly easier to pirate console games this generation. You never know, it's likely to go that route on top of used games.

Meh, it was pretty easy to pirate games even in the PS1 era. 10 to chip a PS1 and there was a group of guys in the town market who sold pirated games for a fiver each. Sure, you were still paying money (which you weren't with the PC), but drastically less than you would even buying used and in this instance, the money wasn't even going to retailers. It went to a bunch of guys selling stuff out of the back of a truck.

Well specifically I mean that torrents and the internet in general has made it easier than before, now making it free as well. Some of the biggest console titles this year were all leaked and torrented well in advance of their official release time.

PC piracy is what people talk about, everyone ignores console piracy either because it occurs less or because people refuse to believe it's possible. But given the nature of the industry right now, I wouldn't be surprised if they started incurring the same DRM methods for PC games on console games.

Wow, this is a passive-aggressive dick move on the part of Ubisoft, but they have a point. The truly scary thing is that this seems to signal an end to big publishers putting out PC games. Still, the best PC game ever IMHO was made by an indie developer (Mount & Blade, developed by Taleworlds), perhaps the departure of the big boys will help foster a renaissance of sorts for PC gaming.

vrbtny:
Ubisoft are being douches to PC gamers?

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Wow. I made this exact same post yesterday... Ubisoft are becoming predictable.

I know. I thought it was the exact same thread for a second. Especially when I saw your awesome GIF again.

vrbtny:
Ubisoft are being douches to PC gamers?

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Wow. I made this exact same post yesterday... Ubisoft are becoming predictable.

Good to see you again. You are are a rock of stability in this wild world we live in.

I'm a console/pc user so stuff like this doesn't bother me in the slightest

OutrageousEmu:
Do you have any fucking idea how premium pricing actually works? Like, does the concept work in your brain, or do you just do it to troll?

It would seem you weren't initially being sarcastic, then. I weep for the world.

BodomBeachChild:
Do you know why I use piratebay.org? Because of assholes like you and EA and Bioware putting less, and less efforts into your games and I am not willing to pay $60 per-annual sequal. The Madden Effect/CoD effect has killed creativity and the greed companies like Ubi and EA display drive me to Pirate Bay games before I buy them.

Advocating piracy is against the Terms of Service of the Escapist forums.

Wolfram01:

OutrageousEmu:
Do you have any fucking idea how premium pricing actually works? Like, does the concept work in your brain, or do you just do it to troll?

It would seem you weren't initially being sarcastic, then. I weep for the world.

Ah yes, the "I am acting aloof because I don't know what I'm talking about so I'm going to act superior so I don't have to explain myself" tactic, a favourite of trolls. Evidently I got my answer.

I personally have no problem with intrusive DRMs. But are they effective at curbing piracy. From what i know of, just about every drm has been cracked.

Best way to get me to head to pirating is to make me feel cheated, but since I have the common sense just not to buy your shit games, I don't have too.

I was going to buy Assasin's Creed Revelations, but I might as well FUCKING pirate it, even though it will be my first pirated game since APPARENTLY I'm expected to not give you money. Fuck off Ubisoft, I found a new boyfriend and his name is Frictional Games. And they don't put dragon shit into their games.

tony2077:
I'm a console/pc user so stuff like this doesn't bother me in the slightest

Until you have to activate a 20 digit code, wait about a hour for it to update self and then about 30 more minutes so that you can play online, even though its possible your code doesn't work, then you have to drop 10 MORE dollars to play online, wait for THAT to verify.

Honestly, DRM sucks in all cases, wether for the particular title doesn't affect you, there is a DRM heavy game on console selling billions.

Pharsalus:
Wow, this is a passive-aggressive dick move on the part of Ubisoft, but they have a point. The truly scary thing is that this seems to signal an end to big publishers putting out PC games. Still, the best PC game ever IMHO was made by an indie developer (Mount & Blade, developed by Taleworlds), perhaps the departure of the big boys will help foster a renaissance of sorts for PC gaming.

Makes sense, actually. Indie Games are the only force that actually pushes things of good quality into the mouthes of hungry gamers. I don't think they'll step ENTIRELY out, but Ubisoft will probably make a game in the coming years just for the PC over the fact that they want more money.

Calamity:

The Rascal King:
Man, it must be hard to be PC elitist when 3 games come out for it every year.

Not sure if flame bait or ignorant moron. /fry-stare

Try light-hearted sarcasm. I know darn well that PC gamers bathe in kerosene for enough hours of the day to be lit up like bonfire whenever someone even mutters a negative word of their chosen gaming platform.

so to be clear: hurr jk guise

Good riddance.

I never even knew ghost recon was on the PC....
I've only ever seen it on consoles....
I mean, sure, there's the Rainbow 6, and such, which are -basically- the same thing anyway, but, really...?
95% of PC gamers are pirates...?
That's a bit harsh...

I would join in and say boycott Ubisoft, but, if only for Assassins Creed, I can't...

Meanwhile, Gabe Newell bathes in money after a tiring session of skeet-shooting release builds of Half Life 3.

Flac00:
To be honest guys, its not like this hasn't come out of nowhere. Almost every game is pirated constantly. Hell, with some older games, the only people who actually now get it is by pirating it. This isn't Ubisoft being just dicks. I mean sure, they overreacted, but they do have a legitamate reason. Take this as a lesson. PC people (and I am included in this), BUY GAMES, DONT PIRATE. You are ruining the market more than Call of Duty or Madden ever will.

But the problem arises when the pirating minority is addressed by DRM.

I mean, I actually have the fucking $50 Shivering Isles disc AND the $50 Fallout 3 disc that I bought at Best-Buy some odd 4-6 years ago, AND I STILL have torrented .iso versions saved to my external drive, because the DRM on the discs WON'T LET THE GAMES FUCKING RUN.

I mean, they're ruining their own market. People pirate on consoles, too, it's just that they don't get as much attention. It's also hard to find PC games. I mean, I go to Gamestop looking for a game, and they don't have it, because they literally get ONE copy of the game for PC. That's it. ONE COPY. Once it's gone, you can't get it there. You have to go online. For some people (like me) who don't have credit cards, or $110 on hand to spend on a $100 pre-paid Visa Debit to buy a game online, we're not left a lot of options.

in retail, if you accuse a customer of shoplifting and they are not, you can be sued for harassment. So, ubisoft(retail shop) is accusing 95% of PC gamers of being pirates(shoplifters) can everyone who has bought a ubisoft PC game sue them for harassment?

Ubisoft: Stop being a bitch, if you don't want to make PC games then piss off, but don't come with stupid reasons for your decisions, if you want to use succesfull DRM then get Steam to help you out, also what might help...make fucking better games!!!

Pirating is happening on all 4 formats asshole, and 95%, reallllly? Please quote the source of that information you lying sack of shit!!!

A few years ago there was a fella in my buddy's apartment building that out of the blue one day decided my buddy and his girlfriend were stealing his wifi without his permission because his internet was slow in the evening. They tried assuring him they had their own internet and really didn't have any need to use his. That did no good. He eventually went so far as to complain to the super and even after the super told him they had their own internet service he still was of the belief that they were using his internet. Finally, after multiple weeks of baseless accusations and being treated like so much shit they finally decided "fuck it" and started using his internet out of spite.

The moral of all that is that if people are going to accuse you of doing something and treat you accordingly regardless then you may as well go ahead and fucking do it. I think we are seeing a lot of this in PC gaming anymore. PC gamers are largely sick and tired of companies assuming they are all pirates and treating them as such even after they know for a fact they aren't pirates after they purchase the game. Is it really any wonder that after these companies call PC gamers thieves and treat them accordingly that they become just that?

Waaghpowa:

Vault101:
this is all part of the reason I got a console....god help us if all the bullshit starts affecting them (with all this fuss over used games)

Well it's gotten significantly easier to pirate console games this generation. You never know, it's likely to go that route on top of used games.

*The following statement is not directed at you*

The ignorance in this thread is mind blowing.

you may be right..especially with publishers freaking out over used games...while the retailers are pushing harder for the consumer to buy more used games (liek with EB games new "carrot" program)

a future without hard copies may be upon us, which I find off-putting

Im interested what your refering to when you say "ignorance"

Flac00:
To be honest guys, its not like this hasn't come out of nowhere. Almost every game is pirated constantly. Hell, with some older games, the only people who actually now get it is by pirating it. This isn't Ubisoft being just dicks. I mean sure, they overreacted, but they do have a legitamate reason. Take this as a lesson. PC people (and I am included in this), BUY GAMES, DONT PIRATE. You are ruining the market more than Call of Duty or Madden ever will.

Here is the thing. As gabe newell put it, people pirate games more often if the pirated version of the game is better then the legitimate version of the game. This is true with ALL ubisoft PC games, and it causes them to be pirated disproportionately.

BodomBeachChild:
Do you know why I use piratebay.org? Because of assholes like you and EA and Bioware putting less, and less efforts into your games and I am not willing to pay $60 per-annual sequal. The Madden Effect/CoD effect has killed creativity and the greed companies like Ubi and EA display drive me to Pirate Bay games before I buy them.

thats hardly an excuse for piracy..you dont think the game is worth it, than dont get it...what message are you putting forward by saying

"your game sucks!..but Im still going to play it anyway!"

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