Kitase Discusses Hypothetical Final Fantasy VII Remake

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GeekFury:
Remake the game with better graphics and change NOTHING, the game was a master peice, FF7 may not be in my top 5 all time games but it makes the top ten. You know what I hated about FF8, 9 and 10? They were nothing like FF7 they changed to much, now I'm all for change where change is needed, but don't fix what ain't broke guys.

I suspect you are but one of the many people that Yoshinori Kitase was talking about when he said, I quote: "If we did that, the fans might be disappointed or 'this is not what I was expecting' so in that sense maybe some might say that it's better to let memory be memory"

But if they don't change it at all then it's the same game. A direct clone of the first version, and I personally don't want that. I want me a genetically enhanced SUPER CLONE. I want there to be enough difference to be new and fun to play again whilst retaining enough of the original aesthetic, atmosphere and over-all story plot to make it recognisable.

If we, as fans, keep bitching about it it will NEVER be made and I for one sincerely hope that Sephiroth did not lie to us . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRQcNbmJ_q0

My thoughts on this... more talk on a FFVII remake? Who cares. Square discussing the possibility of changing the game up a little if they do a remake? Yes please!!!

I'm not looking at FFVII here, but rather FFVI. Of course Square has done full remakes for FFIII and FFIV, so you'd think at some point they'll get around to FFVI. Problem is, as much as I love the game I've played it enough that as soon as I get to the World of Ruin I have a routine and know exactly what to do. I'd probably buy it regardless but there's just the perfect opportunity there to really shake things up and completely redesign the world map, character locations, and side quests.

Another interesting 'change up' concept for both games would be to give a changing alternate ending scenario by providing a way to stop the two game changing moments: Kefka's victory over Geshtal, and Sephiroth's killing of Aerith. You'd really get all the FFVII fanboys into a mad frenzy if you tell them not is the game being remade but they'll have a chance to save Aerith this time!

I wouldn't mind an FFVII remake. Just update the game's graphics and character models, re-translate the script, work out some balancing issues, (seriously, Big Guard and White Wind are stupidly overpowered in that game) and I'll be happy.

Daystar Clarion:
Squeenix might as well remake a game we know is good.

It's not like they've made anything worth playing lately.

I don't know its good. I know its mediocre and overrated, however.

Though I heartily concur on the second point...shame. I could use a good RPG where I don't need to create the character; it kinda wears my creativity juices out.

Kopikatsu:

Zachary Amaranth:

Daystar Clarion:
Squeenix might as well remake a game we know is good.

It's not like they've made anything worth playing lately.

Even "changing things" would probably be an upgrade from their current line of products.

They just need to do this, and everything will work out fine.

Woah holy shit, Sqeenix needs to hire that guy for menu design.

And the sad thing is that this most likely would be a hell of a lot better than what the remake might be.

Also yay

GeekFury:
Remake the game with better graphics and change NOTHING, the game was a master peice, FF7 may not be in my top 5 all time games but it makes the top ten. You know what I hated about FF8, 9 and 10? They were nothing like FF7 they changed to much, now I'm all for change where change is needed, but don't fix what ain't broke guys.

The game was a mediocre, poorly-translated piece of shlock, peppered with bland and one-dimensional characters and an-at times-confusing plot. The soundtrack was fantastic, but thats expected from FF, pretty much. FF9 had far better characters who actually developed and a better plot. Plus a protagonist who wasn't a whiney douche and an antagonist who didn't feel incredibly forced.

Daystar Clarion:

Zachary Amaranth:

Daystar Clarion:
Squeenix might as well remake a game we know is good.

It's not like they've made anything worth playing lately.

Even "changing things" would probably be an upgrade from their current line of products.

Agreed.

It's not like they can do worse than FF XIII, right?

...

Right?

Final Fantasy Vs. XIII and XIII-2.

twaddle:

Cyberdelic:
We're going off topic here so lets leave dead horses to flog themselves, eh?

In fact, I'm so bored of this topic - the whole Final Fantasy 7 remake thing, that I just don't care any more. I'm gone. Out the loop. No more talky for me.

See you later. Or not.

and yet you read the article the moment you saw it and commented on this tread about it and say you don't care..
hilarious. i love the internet and it's quazy contradictions

I've been "um"ing and "aw"ing over if to reply to this or not . . . my pride got the better of me -_-.

To clarify my post - I saw article. I read. I like. I comment. I comment some more. I THEN got bored of discussion and decide to leave, thus my above post. I was not bored of the topic prior to commenting but I'm glad that your misinterpretation of my meaning [as often happens and probably will happen until the end of time on the internetz] kept you entertained.

Then some body mentioned sweaty biker men and heavy cross dressing and I got back involved again. My ONLY weakness >_<

Anyway blah blah flogging horses blah blah I R tired night night ZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzz

As long as they still kill of Aerith (and not bring her back!) I will be happy.

Jesus Phish:

GeeksUtopia:
umm correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't a remake of final fantasy VII mentioned a while ago?

A remake of this game gets brought up on probably a monthly if not a daily basis. It's a curiosity as the thing would print money if they did a HD remake without touching anything.

So, so true, and yet SE would rather throw money into pits and see if people would still buy it. They are in debt thanks to the earthquake right? I really don't see a downside to this >.> just keep the code and get a graphics team, doesn't even have to be all that great of a graphics team.... oh wait! They already have some models to go on from all the side things, like AC/DC/the psp thingy.... >.> This is all just bait isn't it? they have an HD version and they keep it locked up for someone like Indiana Jones to break in and go "This belongs to the Final Fantasy Fans!" and steals it and does some cool exit or what ever... >.>;;;

Daystar Clarion:

OutrageousEmu:

Cyberdelic:

I believe that the FFX deal is that it is not a remake but a re-release in HD. However I could be wrong.

No, its a full-on remake.

No. It's a HD re-release.

I'd be very surprised if it was a complete remake and not just a resolution and texture overhaul.

http://3dg.me/games/final-fantasy-x-hd-is-remake-release-date-and-features-rumors

See, this is why you shouldn't talk about these things when you don't actually know anything about them.

Kopikatsu:

They just need to do this, and everything will work out fine.

Errr, no. They DON'T need to remake it as a skinned version of FFXIII... That would be like setting fire to a nuclear reactor covered in gasoline...

EDIT:

OutrageousEmu:
http://3dg.me/games/final-fantasy-x-hd-is-remake-release-date-and-features-rumors

See, this is what I'm talking about...
"Accordingly to this rumors, Final Fantasy X HD remake will be created using Final Fantasy XIII game engine."
Seriously... If that becomes just a re-skinned FFXIII, I will lose what little faith I have in SquareEnix and their ability to make good games.

Daystar Clarion:

Zachary Amaranth:

Daystar Clarion:
Squeenix might as well remake a game we know is good.

It's not like they've made anything worth playing lately.

Even "changing things" would probably be an upgrade from their current line of products.

Agreed.

It's not like they can do worse than FF XIII, right?

...

Right?

Imagine FF7 but remade with FF13 like gloss and atmosphere. That's one of my ultimate nightmares.

Well, if you guys are going to taint the current series in my eyes, might as well ruin my childhood memories too

/pessimism

OutrageousEmu:

Daystar Clarion:

OutrageousEmu:
No, its a full-on remake.

No. It's a HD re-release.

I'd be very surprised if it was a complete remake and not just a resolution and texture overhaul.

http://3dg.me/games/final-fantasy-x-hd-is-remake-release-date-and-features-rumors

See, this is why you shouldn't talk about these things when you don't actually know anything about them.

Which part of that article was 100% fact and not just rumours and hearsay?

I'll concede when I see cold hold facts that it is indeed a proper remake, but until then...

The Valet:

GeekFury:
Remake the game with better graphics and change NOTHING, the game was a master peice, FF7 may not be in my top 5 all time games but it makes the top ten. You know what I hated about FF8, 9 and 10? They were nothing like FF7 they changed to much, now I'm all for change where change is needed, but don't fix what ain't broke guys.

The game was a mediocre, poorly-translated piece of shlock, peppered with bland and one-dimensional characters and an-at times-confusing plot. The soundtrack was fantastic, but thats expected from FF, pretty much. FF9 had far better characters who actually developed and a better plot. Plus a protagonist who wasn't a whiney douche and an antagonist who didn't feel incredibly forced.

Someone dares defy the hordes of whinging fanboys AND ninja me?
Well done /slowclap
Has an internet *gives +1 internet*

RoseArch:
As long as we can still have him be nekkid in a tub filled with fat, sweaty bikers and have him dress up like a girl, I'm cool with any changes.

This. So much this.

And honestly, on topic, I have no problems with any changes. I'd LIKE it if the Materia worked in a similar fashion (seriously, that was the best balance of customizable characters to character flavor I've ever seen in an FF game), but... I still have the PSX game, and two backwards compatible systems, so either way I'm good.

So he's threatening to go all George Lucas on FFVII if we force him to do a remake so that he can make it "better?" Why would you mess with such a great game? The only things I could see being remotely allowable would be adding extra mini-games to the Gold Saucer, or maybe extra side-content. Just about anything else would be an abomination.

They probably already have a remake completed, holding on to it so that when the next titles suck shit like the last 3 years of everything they have done has and the money starts to run out, they can save the company.

No. Nonononono. Dont remake FF7. As an outsider to the series that has been looking at it for a while, I say remake 6. The plot is much better, Aeris' stab has nothing on Cid and Celes and the villan is so much more interesting, ESPICIALLY if they run with the alternate interpritation he was given in Dissidia.

Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Leave it as is people, for most of you it's pure nostalgia that you cling to not the actual quality of the game. Face it, FF7 is an antiquity at this stage and adding current gen graphics will only exasperate that.

Seriously people, how old were most of you when you first played 7? The intervening 15 years since then will have developed your palette far more then you realise, and nostalgia will do squat for you when your playing a 15 year old game with a new coat of paint. It will look great, but feel like shit AND you it won't have the same emotional impact as the first run through.

But even if they overhauled the game, it still won't beat nostalgia. It can't possible live up to a delusion (quite frankly, that's what nostalgia amounts to in the game industry).

Now that's just directed at the fans. To anybody else, a re-skin job with some dubbing will alienate a large chunk of this generations gamers because to some, FF10s/12s/13s systems are more to their taste and the old clunky FF7 engine will just seem old and clunky. Why? Because games are not fine wines and do not get better with age.

A re-mastering would also be lost on many players because the "fans" of the original would have already spoiled the quintessential aspect of a final fantasy game, and that is the story. At this stage, who the fuck doesn't know...

Chances are, even if you managed to avoid those spoilers for all these years, the plot would feel trite and a bit "been there done that". There is essentially no plot at that point, and the games narrative will just feel predictable and flat...

Let it remain a memory, for fans who loved it will still reminisce and even replay it and people who never played it won't miss it.

All they do is remakes these days. There was a time gamers such as myself looked forward to new Final Fantasy games. Now we wait an exceptional amount of years for a game that, while looking good, is only mediocre at best and does nothing but hurt the genre completely. And in between those releases, we are offered up new versions of old games that people aren't asking for left and right.

Just stop.

Jesus christ... it's not going to happen people. Shamus Young wrote an article on this very website explaining why a FF7 remake is as likely as hell freezing over. The only reason this guy is talking about the ways he would remake the game if given the chance is because people won't stop yammering on about it.

Square have no reason to remake FF7. Despite what deluded fanboys may think, it wouldn't be cheap and easy to produce, and there's no guarantee that it would make the kind of money they claim it would. It was great for what it was, and it's best just to leave it at that.

Ragsnstitches:
Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Leave it as is people, for most of you it's pure nostalgia that you cling to not the actual quality of the game. Face it, FF7 is an antiquity at this stage and adding current gen graphics will only exasperate that.

Seriously people, how old were most of you when you first played 7? The intervening 15 years since then will have developed your palette far more then you realise, and nostalgia will do squat for you when your playing a 15 year old game with a new coat of paint. It will look great, but feel like shit AND you it won't have the same emotional impact as the first run through.

But even if they overhauled the game, it still won't beat nostalgia. It can't possible live up to a delusion (quite frankly, that's what nostalgia amounts to in the game industry).

Now that's just directed at the fans. To anybody else, a re-skin job with some dubbing will alienate a large chunk of this generations gamers because to some, FF10s/12s/13s systems are more to their taste and the old clunky FF7 engine will just seem old and clunky. Why? Because games are not fine wines and do not get better with age.

A re-mastering would also be lost on many players because the "fans" of the original would have already spoiled the quintessential aspect of a final fantasy game, and that is the story. At this stage, who the fuck doesn't know...

Chances are, even if you managed to avoid those spoilers for all these years, the plot would feel trite and a bit "been there done that". There is essentially no plot at that point, and the games narrative will just feel predictable and flat...

Let it remain a memory, for fans who loved it will still reminisce and even replay it and people who never played it won't miss it.

Really how is the second one a spoiler? I think you got a little mixed up so I fixed it for you. Also just to point out sometimes old games are just as good as new games. Now while I can't speak in the context of Final Fantasy games as I am fan(surprised much?)

I can speak in relation to other game series like Half Life and Prince of Persia and to a lesser degree Halo. I have never played PoP games until the 360 one and it was shit and then I got the older ones on Steam and I kept thinking how did they fuck this up? Half Life while I played it with 0 expectations ignoring the hype I found the whole series to be generally timeless and enjoyable. Not as good as the fanbase makes it out to be but still playable and relevant today. Halo is a bit different as it is more recent but I played the second first and then played the first second(confused? I am bit too). I just kept thinking how could they downgrade so many of the good working aspects of the game for the second one but that is life.

OT:I just wish they would say yay or nay and leave it at that. If they were to make a remake they could always do a bit of a Halo on it and have an option for old dialogue translations, non voice acting, old style combat. You know just include the old engine on the new game but then make an actual remake and not just a reskin unlike Halo.

Mr.Squishy:

The Valet:

GeekFury:
Remake the game with better graphics and change NOTHING, the game was a master peice, FF7 may not be in my top 5 all time games but it makes the top ten. You know what I hated about FF8, 9 and 10? They were nothing like FF7 they changed to much, now I'm all for change where change is needed, but don't fix what ain't broke guys.

The game was a mediocre, poorly-translated piece of shlock, peppered with bland and one-dimensional characters and an-at times-confusing plot. The soundtrack was fantastic, but thats expected from FF, pretty much. FF9 had far better characters who actually developed and a better plot. Plus a protagonist who wasn't a whiney douche and an antagonist who didn't feel incredibly forced.

Someone dares defy the hordes of whinging fanboys AND ninja me?
Well done /slowclap
Has an internet *gives +1 internet*

It's hardly defiance; just stating how I see the game. It was alright, but no way near deserving of the praise it gained, and still gains. Final Fantast 9, 10 and others were far superior, because the characters were people you could care about. Does anyone really care about Clouds struggle and memory? Not really, they call just think he is "cool" or "badass", which is the equivalent of calling a book "long" or "wordy"; yeah, they help make the book good, but its not the end-all-be-all.

FF7 had a good run; it got sequels, spin offs, and even a film sequel, all of which had varying success (Advent Children was just one colossal piece of fanservice and not much else), something no other FF- no matter how popular- has got. It feels like everything Square have done since then has done modestly simply because "its not FF7."

Not saying their recent games are works of art; 13 was a train wreck and 14 the aftermath of a nuclear war, but fans need to learn to let go. It's had its time, and its been buried for a long time. Leave it there, in the past, when it was actually relevant.

Keep everything the same. Just better graphics and add some good voice acting (same stupid dialogue mind) and maybe some extra quests.

The battle system doesn't need to change or evolve to todays standards as the original fans want the original system and a remake of FFVII will cause a Skyrim-esque mob mentality causing everyone else to buy it regardless of whether they've ever played a FF game before. So there's no downside to pandering to fans wants.

Because if you tell people the game is going to be great enough times they'll believe it.

Also it is odd that it is in an Xbox magazine seeing as FFVII was a major playstation game.

Although I guess Xbox 360 does have some similarities with psone... please switch to disc 3...

Eh. You can buy FF7 on the PSNetwork. Making a remake would inspire more fan-rage and well, complete indifference from non-fans like myself.

The time to remaster and re-release FF7 was during the heyday of the PS2. Today it would just smack of desperation on SquareEnix's part. It would sell, but it wouldn't generate a lot of hype.

As far as the established canon goes, the original FFVII is obsolete. Yuffie and Vincent's optionality potentially creates gaping plot holes, as does their absence during the final battle against Sephiroth. (Because like it or not, that piece of crap Dirge of Cerberus exists and is canon...) And then there are parts that would simply be... questionable at best. I'm looking at you, crossdressing scene. That's not something I'm looking forward to in HD. And then the fat gangster guy wanting to do God knows what to Yuffie... yeah.

So all in all, I can certainly see WHY they would want to change it around. A straight HD upgrade would be boring at best; the least they could do is put it up to par with say, Crisis Core.

... and Final Fantasy VI is still left in the dust. All the pre-3D era titles except that one were remade for the handhelds with bonus content as well as the 3D ones being sold on PSN. Six is stuck with a mediocre GBA port that removed the gold that was the dialogue.

Aiden Raine:
they should change it to make emo boy and mama's boy into worthwhile characters.

Every freaking time. Every. Freaking. Time.

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Why must everyone cream their pants when talk of a VII remake surfaces? VII wasn't even that good. Hell, if it weren't for Red XIII that game would be my least favorite Final Fantasy game and my least favorite RPG game that I've played.

You want to remake a good game Square Enix? Remake VI. That is where the Final Fantasy series was at its best. Amazing characters, fantastic story, and the best damn villain the series has ever seen and probably ever will see. Quit throwing your best game under the bus and let everyone experience what is truly the best Final Fantasy game ever created.

blizzaradragon:
Why must everyone cream their pants when talk of a VII remake surfaces? VII wasn't even that good. Hell, if it weren't for Red XIII that game would be my least favorite Final Fantasy game and my least favorite RPG game that I've played.

You want to remake a good game Square Enix? Remake VI. That is where the Final Fantasy series was at its best. Amazing characters, fantastic story, and the best damn villain the series has ever seen and probably ever will see. Quit throwing your best game under the bus and let everyone experience what is truly the best Final Fantasy game ever created.

See that's the thing, though. More people enjoy VII more than VI. I like how VII's villian had a stylish design and actual motives. I liked VII's world more than VI's. I liked the characters more than VI's. Overall, the atmosphere in VII was more captivating.

Although, Kefka's theme is probably better than Sephiroth's but hey.

I'm looking forward more to a FF6 remake. Mayabe 9.

Mordwyl:
... and Final Fantasy VI is still left in the dust. All the pre-3D era titles except that one were remade for the handhelds with bonus content as well as the 3D ones being sold on PSN. Six is stuck with a mediocre GBA port that removed the gold that was the dialogue.

6 already had a PS1 port and it was more than just mediocre.

Shia-Neko-Chan:

blizzaradragon:
Why must everyone cream their pants when talk of a VII remake surfaces? VII wasn't even that good. Hell, if it weren't for Red XIII that game would be my least favorite Final Fantasy game and my least favorite RPG game that I've played.

You want to remake a good game Square Enix? Remake VI. That is where the Final Fantasy series was at its best. Amazing characters, fantastic story, and the best damn villain the series has ever seen and probably ever will see. Quit throwing your best game under the bus and let everyone experience what is truly the best Final Fantasy game ever created.

See that's the thing, though. More people enjoy VII more than VI. I like how VII's villian had a stylish design and actual motives. I liked VII's world more than VI's. I liked the characters more than VI's. Overall, the atmosphere in VII was more captivating.

Although, Kefka's theme is probably better than Sephiroth's but hey.

I suppose so, but from my experience at least most of the people who enjoy VII more than VI have never played a Final Fantasy game that came before VII. Plus at the same time you can't deny there is a huuuuuuuge following for VI among the Final Fantasy crowd, yet VI never gets mentioned at all when it comes to remaking Final Fantasy games. It seems like they were content to remake I-IV, talk about V, then skip over VI, VIII, and IX to go to VII and X. If they want to remake VII, go for it cause I know people will love it. Hey, it might even give me a chance to change my mind on VII. But to remake it while ignoring what many argue is their best work to date would be absolutely foolish.

As a FF7 long term fan I can see where he's coming from: theres a lot in FF7 that makes no sense or could stand to be cut.. and more that could be improved on.

I'm all for it, so long as they pull in the original writers to tweak the plot, fix the plotholes, change around a few things, cut out the stuff that makes no sense caused by changing the main character from Zack to Cloud halfway through development.. oh and cut out the silly stuff from while you're stil in midgar slums, such as the cross dressing.

Then add in new locations like other parts of Midgar, some more towns and villages. Don't put in silly things like floating stores in the middle of nowhere.. and retain world exploring (no more long corridors for the love of all that is holy) and expansions on the quest, such as more Turk stuff.

Maybe put in something big like the chance to save Aeris.. though that might cause gaping plotholes... but two different game paths could lead to great replayability.

Even if they mess it up, its not like FF7 the original is going anywhere However a poorly done FF13 clone with all the same mistakes would severely disappoint many people.

Could also stand to have the ability to save Biggs and Jessie. I always thought those two would make awesome party members.

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