Japanese Gamers Getting More Interested In Western Games

Japanese Gamers Getting More Interested In Western Games

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Based on the most popular pre-ordered games for the PlayStation Vita, the president of Sony Worldwide Studios is claiming that Japanese gamers' tastes are starting to change.

While Western gamers often have to fight for certain publishers to release games outside of Japan, the opposite isn't always true; games created outside of Japan often have a tough time doing well in the country. According to Shuhei Yoshida, president of SCE Worldwide Studios, this is starting to change.

Yoshida's viewpoint extends from his observation that Everybody's Golf (known as Hot Shots Golf here in the West) and Uncharted: Golden Abyss were the most pre-ordered games corresponding with the Japanese launch of the PlayStation Vita. For Yoshida, speaking to the European PlayStation Blog, the fact that a US-developed game like Uncharted is so popular with Japanese gamers has larger indications:

"Japanese people traditionally have a strong local preference, particularly with the Manga style look of characters that they love. But as technology and presentation advances in games like Uncharted and Call of Duty, they are rightly seeing their quality."

Of course, it remains to be seen whether or not Yoshida's predictions turn out to be true. It'll certainly be interesting to see just which Vita games prove to be the most popular in Japan over the next few months.

Source: PlayStation Blog via GamesIndustry.biz

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Or it might just be that most of the launch titles are being developed by western developers, and nothing else is available yet. (My guess.)
I think this is going to go pretty much the same way as the Psp, meaning it will die out in America and Europe pretty fast, while keeping strong in Japan with heaps of Japan-exclusive games. Then again, you never know.

Tastes change. It's kind of refreshing to see something like this though. Well then again, Uncharted is a pretty good game, so it's not THAT surprising. (Not to toot our own horn or anything.)

I like animanga stuff, so I hope they don't abandon the style when all this is supposed to do is increase variability in game...styles.

Daggedawg:
Or it might just be that most of the launch titles are being developed by western developers, and nothing else is available yet. (My guess.)
I think this is going to go pretty much the same way as the Psp, meaning it will die out in America and Europe pretty fast, while keeping strong in Japan with heaps of Japan-exclusive games. Then again, you never know.

No, on both counts. On the first, the Japanese launch titles had offerings from Nippon Ichi, Sega, Namco, Arc Systems, Capcom, Square Enix...ifyo u were looking for the lineup of Japanese developers, this was it.

For the second, that would require that the 3DS not be completely shit. Considering the offerings this thing will do brilliantly in the west.

OutrageousEmu:

Daggedawg:
Or it might just be that most of the launch titles are being developed by western developers, and nothing else is available yet. (My guess.)
I think this is going to go pretty much the same way as the Psp, meaning it will die out in America and Europe pretty fast, while keeping strong in Japan with heaps of Japan-exclusive games. Then again, you never know.

No, on both counts. On the first, the Japanese launch titles had offerings from Nippon Ichi, Sega, Namco, Arc Systems, Capcom, Square Enix...ifyo u were looking for the lineup of Japanese developers, this was it.

For the second, that would require that the 3DS not be completely shit. Considering the offerings this thing will do brilliantly in the west.

Lol! That haterade made my day. :] This is definitely looking like PSP vs. DS all over again, considering Uncharted only sold around 60,000 units at launch and the "inferior" 3DS outsold Vita hardware numbers...in Japan.

In all honesty, I'm not that surprised. Japan has been fascinated with such things like Disney cartoons and the American West for quite some time, so it's a reasonable assumption that they'd become interested in our video games as well. We've certainly embraced what they have had to offer in this regard, after all.

This is hardly conclusive proof of any such thing. Nice speculation though. It's fun to speculate, that is why people do it so much. Most pre-ordered games doesn't mean anything actually at all. There is such a thing as a "law of small numbers", but it's not remotely the same thing as the law of large numbers. It basically states that you can expect an extreme, either one way or the other, when you measure in small numbers. It's not representative of the majority by any stretch of the imagination. The only way to even begin to make such a statement is to have a lot of numbers to go by. Now, if a year after launch, the most bought games are from western developers, you may have something. But this doesn't indicate any such thing.

I think that's maybe because there aren't many launch titles for the Vita, I don't think it's an indication of anything.

Why is a fucking golf game the most pre-ordered? What madness is this?

SL33TBL1ND:
Why is a fucking golf game the most pre-ordered? What madness is this?

Its actually really good.

SupahGamuh:
I think that's maybe because there aren't many launch titles for the Vita, I don't think it's an indication of anything.

26 launch games "isn't many"? I'm pretty sure with raw numbers, thats more than any other console.

OutrageousEmu:

SL33TBL1ND:
Why is a fucking golf game the most pre-ordered? What madness is this?

Its actually really good.

For what it is, sure. But there has to be better games to order.

Why is Japanese gamers interest in Western games considered news? What use is that information. Do we care if the French are into Korean games or that British are interested in Spanish games.

IMO, a better question isn't if Jap audiences are into Western games (people from any nation are into any games that are good/interesting, period.) but why don't Western games sell in japan. My assumption is the lack of presence. It's hard for the Japanese to buy games they don't know about which is a similar problem I have here. It's hard for me to buy games of Japanese origin like Okami or El Shaddai, when I've never heard of it and continue to be bombarded by Skyrim and MW3 commercials.

now if only the western market could do the same for Japanese games.

I hope don't they end up making their games more westernized, I like a variety of games.

As long as they don't start turning games like Persona and iDOLM@STER into first person shooters, I could care less what's popular and where.
I just want my steady stream of JRPGs to keep coming, I don't want to feel like I wasted all that time learning Japanese just to get Call of Duty: Japanese Warfare.

VanQQisH:
, I don't want to feel like I wasted all that time learning Japanese just to get Call of Duty: Japanese Warfare.

I dunno, that would probably involve giant mechs so it could be a refreshing turn for the series...

SL33TBL1ND:
Why is a fucking golf game the most pre-ordered? What madness is this?

i own the original Everybody's Golf for the PS1 and its one of the prize possessions in my PS1 collection.

its the precursor to Mario Golf as Camelot was contracted by Nin to make that after seeing Everybody's Golf.

excellent game and i assume the success of the new one goes all the way back to the stellar reputation of those previous two.

PS. btw news poster its only called "Hot Shots Golf" in the US. in Europe its "Everybody's Golf".

The cynic in me says the Japanese want Uncharted because by now the series is as much 'lead you by the nose' as a typical JRPG.

I'm not sure what's to see in current japanese RPGs as it is, not since PSOne (minus a few loose gems) I haven't seen a really amazing JRPG. And I really can't stand anime mixed with real (Final Fantasy games) it just looks weird and off putting. What's wrong with straight up anime/cell shading?

Snotnarok:
I'm not sure what's to see in current japanese RPGs as it is, not since PSOne (minus a few loose gems) I haven't seen a really amazing JRPG. And I really can't stand anime mixed with real (Final Fantasy games) it just looks weird and off putting. What's wrong with straight up anime/cell shading?

I hate that look too, it's like they can't decide if they're going with a realistic or cell shaded look, so they go with what looks like a shitty attempt at realism.

FelixG:

VanQQisH:
, I don't want to feel like I wasted all that time learning Japanese just to get Call of Duty: Japanese Warfare.

I dunno, that would probably involve giant mechs so it could be a refreshing turn for the series...

More like 2 hours of shooting noncombatants, women and children, then a cutscene where you get nuked, and then 120 hours of being passive aggressively whiny about it.

Snotnarok:
I'm not sure what's to see in current japanese RPGs as it is, not since PSOne (minus a few loose gems) I haven't seen a really amazing JRPG.

Seen Valkyria Chronicles?

VanQQisH:
As long as they don't start turning games like Persona and iDOLM@STER into first person shooters, I could care less what's popular and where.
I just want my steady stream of JRPGs to keep coming, I don't want to feel like I wasted all that time learning Japanese just to get Call of Duty: Japanese Warfare.

I have quite a few Japanese friends who are gamers, and when I ask them why they're not all that into CoD and the like, their response is more or less "but I can't fap to that".

Suffice it to say that Call of Duty: Japanese Warfare would be full half-dressed Asian schoolgirls, and since the mere thought of that makes the gorge rise in the back of my - and most of the other FPS players' - throats, I believe this is one of those genres where the twain shall simply never meet.

OutrageousEmu:

FelixG:

VanQQisH:
, I don't want to feel like I wasted all that time learning Japanese just to get Call of Duty: Japanese Warfare.

I dunno, that would probably involve giant mechs so it could be a refreshing turn for the series...

More like 2 hours of shooting noncombatants, women and children, then a cutscene where you get nuked, and then 120 hours of being passive aggressively whiny about it.

You forgot about the quick time event where you bayonet starving POWs, and the countdown mission in which you race against the clock to hand as many grenades as possible to Okinawan civilians, telling them that if they blow themselves up in the middle of some American soldiers they'll finally get to be real Japanese people, before fleeing back to the mainland.

Wherein you get nuked and whine about it for 120 hours, yeah. It's like CoD4's Shock and Awe, only instead of spending the last half of the game hunting down the one that nuked you, you spend it assiduously denying reparations for the tens of thousands of Korean women you kidnapped and raped.

Sounds like fun!

Hmmm. I would like this to be true but I would say it's a bit of a leap to state that at this point. We will see in the future if this does turn out to be the case.

I forgot:
Why is Japanese gamers interest in Western games considered news? What use is that information. Do we care if the French are into Korean games or that British are interested in Spanish games.

Yeah, why DO we care that a major gaming market that has previously been virtually off-limits to the West might now not be?

Ariseishirou:

Suffice it to say that Call of Duty: Japanese Warfare would be full half-dressed Asian schoolgirls, and since the mere thought of that makes the gorge rise in the back of my - and most of the other FPS players' - throats, I believe this is one of those genres where the twain shall simply never meet.

Considering the shooter base seems to be 90% fifteen year old boys, I'm not sure they'd really complain about teabagging schoolgirls of questionable age.

Zachary Amaranth:

Ariseishirou:

Suffice it to say that Call of Duty: Japanese Warfare would be full half-dressed Asian schoolgirls, and since the mere thought of that makes the gorge rise in the back of my - and most of the other FPS players' - throats, I believe this is one of those genres where the twain shall simply never meet.

Considering the shooter base seems to be 90% fifteen year old boys, I'm not sure they'd really complain about teabagging schoolgirls of questionable age.

Eh, I think you'd be surprised. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have an FPS about hot women, but moe nugyuuu wai wai schoogirls with rabbit ears would definitely put me off. I have a shelf full of FPSs from CoD to BFBC to R6:Vegas to Killzone, and there's no fucking way I'd spend money on that. I think you may have underestimated the cultural divide. All pretenses of being a "realistic" military shooter are pissed out the window the moment a sixteen-year-old girl shows up in a bikini, and frankly that's all over the internet if you really want it. You don't have to pay $60 for it. It would kill the military fetishism outright, and that's what really sells these games.

Whereas Japanese men seem to be able to scare up some small remaining suspension of disbelief when a random schoolgirl makes an appearance in every story, no matter how ludicrously inappropriate. I just can't do it, personally. Russians invade the entire world? Sure. Suitcase nuke? Why not. Girl with cat ears? Fuck this, I'm out.

Zachary Amaranth:

I forgot:
Why is Japanese gamers interest in Western games considered news? What use is that information. Do we care if the French are into Korean games or that British are interested in Spanish games.

Yeah, why DO we care that a major gaming market that has previously been virtually off-limits to the West might now not be?

To a businessman, that would matter. It's not even that which bothers me but the manner in which Sony's idiotic president came to that conclusion. OMG, Uncharted has a lot of pre-orders; Japanese gamer's tastes are changing.

Ariseishirou:

Zachary Amaranth:

Ariseishirou:

Suffice it to say that Call of Duty: Japanese Warfare would be full half-dressed Asian schoolgirls, and since the mere thought of that makes the gorge rise in the back of my - and most of the other FPS players' - throats, I believe this is one of those genres where the twain shall simply never meet.

Considering the shooter base seems to be 90% fifteen year old boys, I'm not sure they'd really complain about teabagging schoolgirls of questionable age.

Eh, I think you'd be surprised. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have an FPS about hot women, but moe nugyuuu wai wai schoogirls with rabbit ears would definitely put me off. I have a shelf full of FPSs from CoD to BFBC to R6:Vegas to Killzone, and there's no fucking way I'd spend money on that. I think you may have underestimated the cultural divide. All pretenses of being a "realistic" military shooter are pissed out the window the moment a sixteen-year-old girl shows up in a bikini, and frankly that's all over the internet if you really want it. You don't have to pay $60 for it. It would kill the military fetishism outright, and that's what really sells these games.

Whereas Japanese men seem to be able to scare up some small remaining suspension of disbelief when a random schoolgirl makes an appearance in every story, no matter how ludicrously inappropriate. I just can't do it, personally. Russians invade the entire world? Sure. Suitcase nuke? Why not. Girl with cat ears? Fuck this, I'm out.

I don't think that's a matter of culture but what you're exposed to. To kids who grew up watching stuff like Ninja Turltes, Gargoyles, Thundercats, Nickelodeon or Toonami, that wouldn't bother them.

Ariseishirou:

Zachary Amaranth:

Ariseishirou:

Suffice it to say that Call of Duty: Japanese Warfare would be full half-dressed Asian schoolgirls, and since the mere thought of that makes the gorge rise in the back of my - and most of the other FPS players' - throats, I believe this is one of those genres where the twain shall simply never meet.

Considering the shooter base seems to be 90% fifteen year old boys, I'm not sure they'd really complain about teabagging schoolgirls of questionable age.

Eh, I think you'd be surprised. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have an FPS about hot women, but moe nugyuuu wai wai schoogirls with rabbit ears would definitely put me off. I have a shelf full of FPSs from CoD to BFBC to R6:Vegas to Killzone, and there's no fucking way I'd spend money on that. I think you may have underestimated the cultural divide. All pretenses of being a "realistic" military shooter are pissed out the window the moment a sixteen-year-old girl shows up in a bikini, and frankly that's all over the internet if you really want it. You don't have to pay $60 for it. It would kill the military fetishism outright, and that's what really sells these games.

Whereas Japanese men seem to be able to scare up some small remaining suspension of disbelief when a random schoolgirl makes an appearance in every story, no matter how ludicrously inappropriate. I just can't do it, personally. Russians invade the entire world? Sure. Suitcase nuke? Why not. Girl with cat ears? Fuck this, I'm out.

You do realize that now I am going to have to write a story that is basically "CoD, but with Japanese school girls" now. I hope that you understand what you have done and will from now on remember that there are crazy people on these forums who don't need drugs to come up with some pretty crazy shit, they just need other posters to complain about ideas they think are crazy.

P.S.- This is my way of thanking you for a hilarious idea. Thank you.

Ack, as long as first person shooters don't become even more popular than they already are.

As much as it gets me flamed on the internet, I feel much like the typical Japanese person about a lot of video games. I like Japanese games and I like Japanese styles of gameplay, and most of all I like Japanese styles of aesthetics. I don't like playing as big hulking dudes.

I'd much rather play as a girl, and I'd much rather play as a cute one than a sexy one. Like others have stated here, both the East and West sexualize women in games. But to me it seems like women in Western games are more often portrayed as sexy while the girls are more often portrayed as cute. I've also noticed that when I say that around here someone pops out to say "those Japanese sexualize women more" and if I disagree someone will pop out to say I'm stereotyping instead of both of us or the other person. Double standards much? Maybe I wouldn't be so used to "stereotyping" western games if I wasn't always in conversations that stereotype Japanese games negatively.

Anyway, I miss the days when people were still enthusiastic about Japanese games. I think largely this is because Japanese developers care less about graphics than Western ones. And they've dropped behind the graphics in comparison to the West. Which apparently, people seem to somehow care about. While I don't condone being against a game just because of where it comes from, I definitely share a little bit of their bias. On the positive, maybe this will lead to a merging of worlds a little bit. On the negative, it might just end in the suppression of Japanese tropes and tendencies in video games.

There's already been a tendency to edit out Asian aesthetics in cover art when brings games over to the West, now with Japanese sales going down and Western sales going up, I fear that change will be one sided, and Japanese styles of gameplay, story, aesthetics, music, and so forth, will start to phase out. I really don't want to see that happen.

Can you blame them?

Compare Skyrim to FF13. Nuff Said.

I forgot:

To a businessman, that would matter.

And only to a businessman. ever.

I get the "larger point" you're trying to make, which I still think is inane. You don't get to trends without a starting point, and this sort of shift really IS worth a look. Of course, this is a deviation from your previous "why should they care?" argument, which was the REALLY funny one, but I'll let you drop that like you didn't say it if you really want. The fact is, when you're looking at an incredibly xenophobic culture who is a large trendsetter in terms of gaming, something like this actually is kinda "OMG."

Actually, that conveniently addresses both your original point and your revised one.

Zachary Amaranth:

I forgot:

To a businessman, that would matter.

And only to a businessman. ever.

I get the "larger point" you're trying to make, which I still think is inane. You don't get to trends without a starting point, and this sort of shift really IS worth a look. Of course, this is a deviation from your previous "why should they care?" argument, which was the REALLY funny one, but I'll let you drop that like you didn't say it if you really want. The fact is, when you're looking at an incredibly xenophobic culture who is a large trendsetter in terms of gaming, something like this actually is kinda "OMG."

Actually, that conveniently addresses both your original point and your revised one.

If you say it only matters to a businessman then how was that argument the "REALLY funny one" (I'm not trying to be smart, I'm using your exact words). Also, please lose the tone. Saying shit like "I'll let you drop that like you didn't say it if you really want" just makes you look bad and ruins discussion.
Could you also clarify what my "larger point" is and why it's inane.

"The fact is, when you're looking at an incredibly xenophobic culture who is a large trendsetter in terms of gaming, something like this actually is kinda "OMG.""
This is neither a fact nor do I agree with it's premise or conclusion. Like I said in my first post, the more interesting question to me is why don't they buy more western games. I already made my assumption but I acknowledge that it is only an assumption.

 

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