Skyrim Fans Uncover Insectoid Conspiracy

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Skyrim Fans Uncover Insectoid Conspiracy

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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim may be full of bugs, but according to dedicated fans of the game, there's an ominous reason for that.

Wait, did you think I was referring to coding bugs? Granted, Skyrim has its share of those too, but today we're talking about the creepy crawly kind.

Throughout the frozen wasteland that plays host to the game there are a number of bugs trapped inside various jars. If you've played the game for an extended period of time, you've likely found one of these imprisoned creatures only to assume that it serves no purpose beyond adding a bit of flavor to the detailed fantasy world. A group of Reddit users with far too much time and an abundance of creative reasoning skills however, has discerned a far more sinister purpose behind the glass prisons.

Specifically, these bug jars seem to be a primer on how to summon the apocalypse.

See, the lid of each jar is emblazoned with a rune that when translated from the language of the dragons into English offers a vague description of a location within Skyrim. Weird, right? Man, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Take this proposed theory, for instance:

Someone noticed the connection between the five cities Morthal, Whiterun, Winterhold, Dawnstar, and Windhelm, and realized they formed a Pentagon. He also noticed three dragon "sanctuaries" or whatever you may call them, Mzinchaleft, and the Tower Stone formed a smaller pentagon within it, making a transmutation circle. In the general area of the middle of the circle, there is a shrine to Talos with a circle of stones around it. His theory was that if you placed the bugs on their respective cities (see post for relation between bugs and cities), committed genocide in those ctities, kill the dragons at the dragon areas and the one that Mzinchaleft leads to, activate the tower stone, and wait for the "Promised Day".

Too morbid for you? Try this one then:

The second one expands upon the Weynon stones. The guy figured out that the Thalmor are trying to erase mankind from existence, and the things that are stopping them are the eight towers:

Crystal Tower

Red Tower

Tree-sap

Orchalc

Khajiit

all of which were destroyed or deactivated. The most significant and only remaining one are the Brass Tower and Snow-Throat, or the Throat of the World. The Brass Tower was cast out of time. The tower may have a spiritual connection with Numidium, the brass god, and the disappearance of the tower and therefore Numidium may tie in with the disappearance of the Dwemer. Snow Throat is the only active one. Each of these towers have stones which bind them to Nirn, and the theorist concluded that the Weynon Stones bound Snow Throat. This is why the Thalmor have been waging war on Skyrim; so they can destroy Snow Throat or the Weynon Stones, either way destroying the last tower and wiping mankind from existence.

And those are just the two most fleshed-out explanations for these jars. The whole thread is full of grassy-knoll-level conspiracy theories. Even if Bethesda didn't intend for the game to have an undercurrent of shady menace foretelling the coming of Armageddon, the thread makes an entertaining read for those who have spent a hundred hours murdering Skeevers and shrugging off casual racism against the noble Khajiit.

Oh, and for the record, Skyrim's developers remain mum on the exact purpose of the jars. We asked, and they aren't saying a thing.

Source: Reddit, via Game Informer

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You know, some of these theories don't seem all that farfetched. This is Elder Scrolls lore we are talking about after all. Just read about why Red Mountain exploded... shit is whacky.

I have found a few of those. I thought it was just a decoration of sort. So the first Skyrim expansion will be the Butterfly Apocalypse. Screw dragons. Butterflies own these skies.

That's pretty impressive. It would be even cooler if one of those theories turned out to be right on the money. I always like it when developers hide things like this.

That being said, I have to wonder how these people come up with these things. Having too much time on your hands can only carry you so far. I think you need to have a certain level of crazy to find, and figure out, some of these.

All the way... to the top... I will take this...

This seems far-fetched... but I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be right on the money.

Well, if it isn't true now... The only thing to do is to wait for some ambitious modders to make a Mod/addition to the game to get this stuff to work!

Is... is it weird that I'm now afraid of that bee in a jar that's been in my pocket for a while?

There's apparently a quest related to them called 'Captured Critters', according to the Strategy Guide.

I have two characters:

An Argonian - Neutral

A Kahjiit - Stormcloak

I'll kill any Thalamor I see for sure now rather than just shrug them off ass pompous asses.

MiracleOfSound:
There's apparently a quest related to them called 'Captured Critters', according to the Strategy Guide.

If there is, it isn't mentioned in the wiki. Those things are usually run by fans, so they're usually reliable.

TO GOOGLE!

(Also, I find it hilariously awesome that people are claiming that it's a transmutation circle connected to Full Metal Alchemist. I just started watching through that again. I almost died laughing.)

EDIT: Found it. It isn't an actual quest, but the bugs are officially referred to as the "Captured Critters".

http://www.primagames.com/games/elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/primaguides/232/walkthrough/4714

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3451681

Wait, there are bugs in jars? Where are these?

I've been all over the damn place and played for about 140 hours and haven't stumbled upon one.

Irridium:
Wait, there are bugs in jars? Where are these?

I've been all over the damn place and played for about 140 hours and haven't stumbled upon one.

If you go from Riverwood to Riften taking the path through Helgen and just south of the Throat, you'll come across an abandoned shack called the "Alchemist's Shack". The butterfly is there. There are four more hidden throughout the world, but that's the only one I know of that isn't potentially spoiler-rific (and I only know about one other).

ZeroMachine:

Irridium:
Wait, there are bugs in jars? Where are these?

I've been all over the damn place and played for about 140 hours and haven't stumbled upon one.

If you go from Riverwood to Riften taking the path through Helgen and just south of the Throat, you'll come across an abandoned shack called the "Alchemist's Shack". The butterfly is there. There are four more hidden throughout the world, but that's the only one I know of that isn't potentially spoiler-rific (and I only know about one other).

Yup. That'd be the one that I accidentally stumbled upon.

Sounds like someone reads too much Fullmetal Alchemist.

gigastrike:
Sounds like someone reads too much Fullmetal Alchemist.

Nothing wrong with that. Some of my most favorite characters are from FMA. Besides, just think of the kind of horror you'd find if suddenly the Sin characters started running rampant in Skyrim. You'd have no clue whether that guard is Envy or not, or suddenly find yourself trapped in the stomach-abyss of Gluttony. And god... Pride and Wrath would make for some fierce bosses.

cursedseishi:

gigastrike:
Sounds like someone reads too much Fullmetal Alchemist.

Nothing wrong with that. Some of my most favorite characters are from FMA. Besides, just think of the kind of horror you'd find if suddenly the Sin characters started running rampant in Skyrim. You'd have no clue whether that guard is Envy or not, or suddenly find yourself trapped in the stomach-abyss of Gluttony. And god... Pride and Wrath would make for some fierce bosses.

It'd also be totally awesome to be able to use FMA's style of alchemy. I'd take that over potion making any day.

People have too much time on their hands. Give it to me instead. Also, their either insane or geniuses. Which will be a question for Bethesda to answer.

It wouldn't surprise me if this were at least partially the case. Because seriously, those runes on the jars must mean something... and a city-based treasure hunt is as good a meaning as any.

I'm gonna go with the my theory, the words at the bottom of the jar together make up some kinda anagram of a place, go to that place with the jars stuff happens

The one about the transmutation circles wouldn't surprise me at all. I would be happy if it was right.

Hmmm I think I smell dlc

Well, the game is about (averting) Armaggeddon in a certain sense, so maybe the bug jars and the positions of the towns was supposed to be one part of why the end of days has come to the world.

Btw, the second theory is actually essentially accepted canon on the TES Lore forums, and has very little to do with the insect jars.

gigastrike:
Sounds like someone reads too much Fullmetal Alchemist.

Or just doesn't get much sleep.
These guys must be up all night because of the chronic knee pain that comes with making bad jokes all the time.

Or I can be wrong, and some Bethesda dev is in a dark room going "excellent..." like Mr. Burns

Wow, I saw two in a rather short period of time, so I assumed they were normal. I ended up ignoring the second one.

For the record, FMA wasn't the first and certainly isn't the only source to use the term "transmutation circle", so thinking that theory has anything to do with FMA is a bit hasty.

Problem with the first theory is that it's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy. "Commit genocide in the cities"? At that point you kinda earn the title of one-man apocalypse. And besides, at that point the end of the world wouldn't seem as dramatic since you've already killed off half of it.

My guess is that the simpliest explination is most likely the correct one: the bugs are an easter egg and if you're nerdcore enough to translate the runes correctly you'll have a secret message from the developers.

they did it to mess with fans :D

ZeroMachine:

Irridium:
Wait, there are bugs in jars? Where are these?

I've been all over the damn place and played for about 140 hours and haven't stumbled upon one.

If you go from Riverwood to Riften taking the path through Helgen and just south of the Throat, you'll come across an abandoned shack called the "Alchemist's Shack". The butterfly is there. There are four more hidden throughout the world, but that's the only one I know of that isn't potentially spoiler-rific (and I only know about one other).

If you do the Thieves Guild Questline, when they send you into the estate in the middle of lake outside riften, when you get to your target in the room you'll find a Bee in a Jar.

p.s. thanks for the Butterfly in a jar Loc. :) i will decorate my house with these! should i ever find them all!

It's the Battle.net gem all over!

OhJohnNo:
All the way... to the top... I will take this...

This seems far-fetched... but I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be right on the money.

I doubt that they were ever made with any other purpose but to sit in the game and look pretty.

Also, if this does turn into some DLC plot of doom, I think it will be because all these people inspired it rather than found it, but that would still be pretty cool.

RJ 17:
For the record, FMA wasn't the first and certainly isn't the only source to use the term "transmutation circle", so thinking that theory has anything to do with FMA is a bit hasty.

It's true that FMA wasn't the first user of the term, but the theory is a direct reference to Fullmetal Alchemist, and was directly taken from the overarching plot of the series. The joke is that it based on FMA.

I read somewhere they were part of a collector quest that was left out in the final product.

It was further deduced that collecting them all would give you the title - Jarl.

How many dragons are there?
I've never played Skyrim but this relates to me about Full Metal Alchemist.
Maybe there's a secret connection xD

Maybe Bethesda just put them in there for the hell of it and are keeping quiet about what those jars are for until the whole fanbase has run out of ideas, because then they'll pick one and implement it.

Hey, it could work.

As a Fullmetal Alchemist fan finding this on reddit made me shit-brix, shiver and squeel with joy all at once. Currently acting on the first theory with a new character.

Also going to try casting "Soul Trap" on the Talos statue and see what happens.

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