[UPDATE] Players Banned for Breakdancing in Star Wars: The Old Republic

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[UPDATE] Players Banned for Breakdancing in Star Wars: The Old Republic

An unfortunate, but funny glitch in Bioware's new MMO is allowing players to avoid damage by dancing.

Like some sort of bizarre version of Footloose set in outer space, dancing in Star Wars: The Old Republic can now get you in a whole mess o' trouble. Bioware's ire, however, is somewhat more logical than Reverend Shaw Moore's; a player choosing to "get down" during combat currently prevents enemies (and even bosses) from targeting properly.

Knowledge of the exploit has already spread rapidly across the various SW:TOR star systems, leading to massive exploitation that the developer has yet to patch out of the game code. Don't think that gives your Sith Inquisitor a license to boogie though, as multiple accounts are already being walloped by the almighty ban hammer.

For players who can't stop (can't stop!) can't stop the beat, Bioware has started issuing account bans, claiming that the offenders "participated in abusing game mechanics to prevent enemy NPCs from targeting the user," and that "dancing is currently not permitted outside of special Dance Zones." The developer hasn't specified what exactly these "zones" are, but I think it's safe to assume it means "during combat." So, hey, you can dance if you want to, but no grinding while grinding.

I'll bet none of you ever thought you'd be banned from a Star Wars game for dancing in a non-dance zone, but then again, I never thought I'd see Obi-Wan's krayt dragon call get further attention. Go figure.

Update: Bioware has apparently written Joystiq, informing them that the email containing "[player] participated in abusing game mechanics to prevent enemy NPCs from targeting the user," and "dancing is currently not permitted outside of special Dance Zones," was faked by someone unaffiliated with the company.

Source: Joystiq

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Are these perma-bans? O.o

Fappy:
Are these perma-bans? O.o

I'm curious about that as well. Sure its annoying to PVP players if one person exploits this, but punishing people for exploiting a bug *in your game* seems like the wrong move. Why not just disable the dancing action globally until the bug is fixed?

Mike Kayatta:
Players Banned for Breakdancing in Star Wars: The Old Republic

Help me, Kevin Bacon -- you're my only hope!

(Thus allowing "Footloose to Star Wars" to become an acceptable bridge in the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game)

Oh for fucks sakes. They'll ban you for anything these days.

Perma bans? Damn, can't you guys just, I dunno, disable the dance function until its fixed or something?

This seems a bit of a harsh punishment. I'm sure it's only temporary but even still, warnings first then bans? How do you know how much people have done it? And special dance zones?

I wonder also, do these bans result in people being banned from their forum accounts and other Origin games?

I'm joining the "Are these perma-bans?" chorus, because if this is grounds for a ban, TOR doesn't have a very bright future ahead of it. Ok, I MIGHT be able to understand if they only banned people who were abusing it to the extreme (to, say, 2-man endgame content or something), but if they dropped the banhammer on people who just heard about a funny bug and wanted to try it out, then that's batshit retarded...

Why? that happened in the original movies, didn't it?

heh.

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"If you will not be turned... you will be destroyed!"

History repeats itself.

stupid stupid stupid thing to ban people for. I hate it. Release a game that isn't broken if you don't like people playing that way.

Fappy:
Are these perma-bans? O.o

I think they're "suspensions".

Fappy:
Are these perma-bans? O.o

Million dollar question right there. It's easy to get riled up over a ban-hammer use if it's inappropriate, but far harder to do so if the ban only lasts...say, 24 hours.

Still, this was a pretty clear exploit of game mechanics to avoid damage. The idiots knew they were breaking the rules.

Nasrin:

Fappy:
Are these perma-bans? O.o

I think they're "suspensions".

That's good to know. Hopefully Bioware doesn't need to deal with another Martin's Shirt fiasco like WoW had during Wrath. That was total bullshit.

The bug is there. It's going to get exploited. I'm fairly certain there was a better solution to this than handing out bans. Show the customer a little bit of respect.

YOU allowed this bug in YOUR game by failing to address it before release Bioware. These people aren't breaking the rules, they're taking advantage of YOUR mistake. NO ONE deserves to be banned for dancing (unless they're Elaine from Seinfeld)

Nasrin:
stupid stupid stupid thing to ban people for. I hate it. Release a game that isn't broken if you don't like people playing that way.

Indeed.

Release broken game > People play the game > Get banned because the game is broken.

SMRET LAWJIK!

Bioware - Proving that just because you can write a good story, it does not mean you're not, in fact, an idiot (See also: Frank Miller).

TJ Johnston:
The bug is there. It's going to get exploited. I'm fairly certain there was a better solution to this than handing out bans. Show the customer a little bit of respect.

EA Bioware? Respect? These are the same people who yelled at fans for offering constructive criticism, and then blamed everything else on 4Chan raiders.

Fucks sakes Bioware, get your heads out of your ass.

Way to go Bioware, punish the gamers who paid you money and continue to pay you money for a subscription all because they found a mistake in your code.

Shows how pathetic Bioware has become, when they can't even get their shit together without banning people. And no, the EULA doesn't give them an all-access pass to their customers' asses.

The breakdance is strong with this one (sorry I can't help it).

Seriously they should release a patch to fix this glitch already!

Oh also it bring a whole new meaning to "Can't touch this"!

So, indiscriminate killing is OK for an amoral sith, but dancing is a big no-no? Is this like the duck thing? Is dancing in combat verboten?

Caliostro:

Release broken game > People play the game > Get banned because the game is broken.

Release game with an unknown exploit in the code > People knowingly exploit it to get ahead in the game > People get banned because they exploited the game.

To take another recent example, should nothing have been done to players who used the Javelin exploit in Modern Warfare 2? Do you think this situation is different? Why?

Sorry, double post, the browser died while posting the first time.

Banning people for stickin' it to the man with the power of dance! Bioware, fascism ill suits you!

damn them! trying to outlaw dancing again! wait what? somebody mentioned safety dance before me? DAMN YOU NINJAS!

thats a quite funny glitch xD yea, its mentioned in pretty much every mmo contract, that you are !FORBIDDEN! to abuse glitches. FORBIDDEN!

Caliostro:

Nasrin:
stupid stupid stupid thing to ban people for. I hate it. Release a game that isn't broken if you don't like people playing that way.

Indeed.

Release broken game > People play the game > Get banned because the game is broken.

SMRET LAWJIK!

Bioware - Proving that just because you can write a good story, it does not mean you're not, in fact, an idiot (See also: Frank Miller).

Ha! That gave me a giggle. Don't see enough frank miller jokes on this site.

Of course they are banning more people. It's all they know how to do, since they cannot proficiently program a game anymore apparently. In all seriousness though, it's bullshit. Just put out a fast patch disabling the dancing till you get it ironed out. I hate this. Too bad I'm enjoying the game so much. I mean, it's still fun. I don't care if people exploit it at all. They are only ruining their good time by doing it. They aren't messing the game up for me.

Actually, for dancers in the Star Wars Universe, that's not so harsh. When Jabba had problems with dancers, he'd drop them in the Rancor Pit.

Amnestic:
People knowingly exploit it to get ahead in the game

Why/when did cheating yourself become a subject for hard line retribution?

We all used to type in "IDKFA" and not worry at all about unbalancing the game. Why is it suddenly SO SERIOUS!!!!!!1111!!!

Worst possible case scenario: Some eedjet get to the top of the leaderboards. OH NOEZ!

Fix the bug on the sly so it now draws fire to you. Problem solved.

Nasrin:
stupid stupid stupid thing to ban people for. I hate it. Release a game that isn't broken if you don't like people playing that way.

When you think about it it is really not that stupid of a thing to ban people for. Exploiting in any multiplayer game will get you banned/suspended. Thats how it has always been and always will be. They cant just let people take advantage of glitches/exploits and do nothing about it. If they did they would have an actual uproar on their hands.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Why/when did cheating yourself become a subject for hard line retribution?

It's not cheating yourself, it's cheating against others. That's part of the whole 'Multiplayer' aspect?

The_root_of_all_evil:

We all used to type in "IDKFA" and not worry at all about unbalancing the game. Why is it suddenly SO SERIOUS!!!!!!1111!!!

If they'd hacked their characters to make them invincible, would you have the same view? Why is punishing people for knowingly cheating in a multiplayer game suddenly a bad thing?

The_root_of_all_evil:

Worst possible case scenario: Some eedjet get to the top of the leaderboards. OH NOEZ!

Or you get a reputation of letting cheaters get away with their actions which could harm your chances of bringing in future customers.

The update has confused me. So are people getting banned or not?

Seems absolutely retarded to ban people for this. I mean yeah sure it's an exploit (I guess) but it's also something that anybody could randomly do. I mean you don't have to try to break the game with this one, you just type /dance (or something).

Maybe Bioware should ban themselves for allowing it to happen in the first place.

Amnestic:

Caliostro:

Release broken game > People play the game > Get banned because the game is broken.

Release game with an unknown exploit in the code > People knowingly exploit it to get ahead in the game > People get banned because they exploited the game.

To take another recent example, should nothing have been done to players who used the Javelin exploit in Modern Warfare 2? Do you think this situation is different? Why?

Before I can reply, first you gotta tell me what IS the Javelin Exploit.

That said, it's part of the game. It's their fault it's in the game, and these users are only affecting themselves. If you don't want people exploiting it fix it. "But it takes time". Release a mini (and I mean mini) patch that simply disables dancing till it's fixed. TADA. You've temporarily fixed your fuck up completely + not causing a PR mess + not locking paying costumers out of your game! It's win-win-win.

Edit: ah, Good fake. Disregard this then. Apologies to Bioware.

...Would still be fucking stupid if it happened.

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