Family Research Council Warns of Gay Relationships in The Old Republic

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The first amendment, letting you express whatever view you'd like (and then let everyone else express that your opinion sucks).

Somebody doesn't let the potential for gay relationships... whoo, that's so interesting. I know its related to a video game but why do stories like this even come up. Somebody somewhere hates somebody else unless its a new way of expressing that hate its not really news.

Proverbial Jon:
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Wow, that's the most insultingly narrow minded thing I have read in some time. Is this guy truly for real?

OMG you can have a gay relationship in a Star Wars game now! Surely these Christian extremist types should be more concerned with, oh I dunno, the idea of players having the ability to kill people?

*slow clap* I agree get me on the first shuttle to Hoth. And these christian people are the ones who way back when. Invented the Death Penalty. :D See this right here is my biggest problem with religion, so so so many of the Really Religious people I've met have been the most close minded people I've ever met. For them the world ends and begins in that little book and everything that is not in it is evil and the work of the devil. That's my issue it closes you off to questioning, to evolving and changing as a person. IMO I'm more concerned about rather or not someone's gonna kill me then if he or she may or may not be a homosexual. And it matters even less when said people ARE VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS!

Electrogecko:
Lol.

Tagline on their website:
"Advancing Faith, Family, and FREEDOM"

yeah, you are free to live your life exactly how we tell you

renegade7:

Grouchy Imp:

Andy Chalk:
It advocates for "family values" and socially conservative policies, and of course maintains a hard-line stance against such things as abortion, stem-cell research, claims of man-made global warming and LGBT rights.

So this group is against freedom of choice, scientific progress, global awareness and human rights, respectively. Why do people listen to these clowns again? I must be missing something here.

The Conservative/Religious Right =/ They've been indoctrinated since childhood.

But if we're "all God's children" then why the endless discrimination? Faith is important to some people, I get that, but how does "love thy fellow man" get twisted into "burn the unbeliever"?

*sigh*

Sometimes I don't understand some people. But more often when I finally do understand some people, I realise I really didn't want to.

Not surprised, but it's still annoying every time I read something like this.

But hey, watchagonnado.

Sarah Frazier:
As has been said about any game where relationships of any kind are optional...

If you don't like it, don't pursue it.

But if they just dropped it and lived their own lives, where would they get their "I'm better than you" fix?

On topic, this so-called family group has been officially labeled a hate group. Even if I didn't already think horribly of their stance, the fact that they're against it would be enough for me to support it.

*yawns sleepily* Conservatives being conservatives. Blargh...

Some things i'll just never understand. I think Bioware should advertise this ability to potentially have gay/lesbian relationships in TOR. Just to piss these kind of people off. XD

Hey look, a right-wing fundamentalist promoting out-dated ethics and spewing bullshit. Never seen that before, have we?

I love their missuse of the word "Family" as a euphamism for "Homophobic Ultra-Conservative", Reasearch as "Opinionated" and "Council" as a euphamism "Fear-mongering Pressure group".

"Homophobic Ultra-Conservative Opinionated Fear-mongering Pressure group" has less of a ring to it.

In a game where you can brutally murder someone, being gay ruins their family values the most? murder is okay in their family?

Geo Da Sponge:
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renegade7:
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Zachary Amaranth:
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Guys, you need to see this on Deviant Art, while we're mocking idiots, lets troll the fuck out of this one: http://ramen27.deviantart.com/art/Morality-vs-Tolerance-199407452

Someone go grab the popcorn!

I don't... I can't... It doesn't.... GAAAAHHHHH!!!!

These people are morons, plain and simple.

Silly protesters, the warp is only in Warhammer not Star Wars

Apparently they have never played a recent Bioware game

Why is it that people who claim to have "family values" seem intent on stopping gay people from making one?

DemikidZA:
Silly protesters, the warp is only in Warhammer not Star Wars

Oh no.......don't tell christian extremists about Slaanesh........bad....bad...so much bad...

Well, obviously we have a HOMOSEXUAL in Star Wars. He's climbin' in your hanger bay, he's snatchin' your people up, tryin' to star warp 'em. So y'all need to hide your kids, hide your wife, and hide your husband cause they're star warping' everybody out here.

Well, obviously. Kids always make a male character in MMORPGs and find some other guy to have buttsex with, right?

Seriously though, this is stupid. Homosexuality isn't some disease you can get from others. Hasn't everyone learnt this by now?

so inter species alien lovin is fine.. but the same gender is bad... ok then what ever floats your anti grav barge

Don Savik:

DemikidZA:
Silly protesters, the warp is only in Warhammer not Star Wars

Oh no.......don't tell christian extremists about Slaanesh........bad....bad...so much bad...

MY GOD. THAT IS THE BEST IDEA EVER!

Too bad all of my religious friends are awesome, and half of them ARE bisexual or gay.

Where are these 300 pages of angry comments? I've been searching the SWTOR website and have found no such thread. Sounds like bullshit to me.

Wait, what is a Christian?
Is it like this guy?

reonhato:

yeah, you are free to live your life exactly how we tell you

Sadly, to a lot of people that's exactly what freedom means.

BlackStar42:
Why is it that people who claim to have "family values" seem intent on stopping gay people from making one?

Because they only want their definition of a family to be valid.

There are groups still railing against single parents.

imnotparanoid:
Well, obviously we have a HOMOSEXUAL in Star Wars. He's climbin' in your hanger bay, he's snatchin' your people up, tryin' to star warp 'em. So y'all need to hide your kids, hide your wife, and hide your husband cause they're star warping' everybody out here.

Why do I have a wife AND a husband?

Zachary Amaranth:

MrBrightside919:
It's 2012...we should be passed all this by now...seriously

This it what happens when you're opposed to evolution...It passes you by. :p

*Slow Clap*
Well played my friend. Well played.

This whole thing is stupid, just the fanatic Christians doing their thing. Holding onto the first amendment to justify the legality of hate speech under religious freedom, and trying to trample under the rights of everyone else, and many of their own.

I mean honestly, honestly, if something in a game isn't mandatory to the plot you shouldn't even have a issue with it. If a single line can let you bypass an entire feature, you don't even have to look at anything but the door.

Seriously, this is just... nuts. Seriously, why haven't we gotten past this? Really, they aren't harming you so why even cause a stink. Its really... really... stupid. These people are just making themselves look bad, and making the rest of us look bad with them. Please don't let these guys color your opinion of Christianity, we are NOT all like them. They are the extreme version. They are also the people we attempt to ignore... What I am trying to say is that they don't speak for us, they are radicals.

OK, there's my bit of the damage control done. Remember,

Peace is a lie, there is only Passion.
Through my Passion, I gain Strength.
By right of Strength, I claim my Victory.
By my Victory, my chains will be broken!
The Force shall free me!

Ok... my credibility is completely trashed now... well its still better than the guys with "family values". ;)

EDIT:Found another post I really must comment on.

renegade7:
Okay, so Star Wars TOR might one day have gay marriage. The gays and the liberals are in line with the Chinese, and the Chinese used to worship dragons, and a dragon is a kind of demon, and often represents the devil. So, the Chinese are the devil. Thus, if you like Star Wars, you support gays and liberals and therefore you support China, and therefore the devil, and you're trying to take away our traditional Christian family values with your gay liberal-ness and destroy America. We must protect our women children from the Chinese gay-devils! We must destroy the gay/liberal/Chinese/Jedi/Sith agenda before it destroys America's traditional Christian values with its liberal Death Star gaylaser.

Because that totally makes sense (It wouldn't be the dumbest argument I've heard from these sorts of organizations.) Yay far right lobbyists!

First, did you just come from trolling ChristWire? I think I saw that argument the last time i went there to watch the slow-motion train wreck that is their comments... anyway onto the point...

Now, this is actually a fairly good example of that radical-thought processes that I was talking about earlier. They are very far beyond most of us, because most of us don't hate anyone. The insanity here is weird... because the big point here is finding a way to make this China's fault. I honestly don't know what all the hate for China is about... but I'm sure they have a reason(never said it was a good one). What exactly is the proof that China is in league with the "gays". That and just because something admits that homosexuality exists it automatically is fully in the pocket of what they perceive as a "Agenda". The final thing is the thing about "America's Traditional Christian Values". We have never been a Christian state, honestly I don't know where anyone gets that idea... oh yeah... Sunday School teaching history to someone...

"In a new Star Wars game, the biggest threat to the empire may be homosexual activists!"

Erm... ..forgive me if I'm wrong about this, but isn't the Empire the bad guys in Starwars?
So, he's saying that Homosexuals are the best fighters the good guys have?

What a prat, if your going to spout homophobic bullshit at least make it coherent homophobic bullshit.

"That surprised a lot of gamers, since Bioware had made it clear in 2009 that 'gay' and 'lesbian' don't exist in the Star Wars universe."

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"Oh My"

(smells like bullshit to me, how can the galaxy be gay free where even the robots are flaming?)

Was anyone not expecting this? Come on guys, this isn't surprising anymore. They do this all the time. Stop acting like this is unexpected. It's not.

It's not really unexpected per say, just EXTREMELY disappointing. The hate these "Family Values" Groups spew every time they open their ignorant mouths is breathtaking.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Andy Chalk:
"In a new Star Wars game, the biggest threat to the empire may be homosexual activists! Hello, I'm Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council in Washington, D.C.

And from then on, it was all in Troy McClure's voice.

Glorious.
Fucking glorious.

Dr. McD:
Guys, you need to see this on Deviant Art, while we're mocking idiots, lets troll the fuck out of this one: http://ramen27.deviantart.com/art/Morality-vs-Tolerance-199407452

Someone go grab the popcorn!

Done and done.
Let's see how they like "Christiandad463".

Vie:
"In a new Star Wars game, the biggest threat to the empire may be homosexual activists!"

Erm... ..forgive me if I'm wrong about this, but isn't the Empire the bad guys in Starwars?
So, he's saying that Homosexuals are the best fighters the good guys have?

What a prat, if your going to spout homophobic bullshit at least make it coherent homophobic bullshit.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Apparently gay love is a more powerful force for good than the entire Jedi Order. It's pretty clear this guy doesn't actually know anything about Star Wars, which makes all his gratuitous references rather patronizing.

Why is homosexuality a bigger issue than the fact that you can do really evil things and are rewarded for doing them? Oh, nevermind, I get it... To them, homosexuality is a bigger crime than mass-murder.

I read this bit in the voice of Troy McClure from The Simpsons.

"In a new Star Wars game, the biggest threat to the empire may be homosexual activists! Hello, I'm Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council in Washington, D.C.

You may remember me from such films as Women And Their Four Uses and Sex Education In School: What You Need To Know To Protect Your Family From Having To Hear Anything About About Condoms Or The Pill.

albinoterrorist:

Dr. McD:
Guys, you need to see this on Deviant Art, while we're mocking idiots, lets troll the fuck out of this one: http://ramen27.deviantart.com/art/Morality-vs-Tolerance-199407452

Someone go grab the popcorn!

Done and done.
Let's see how they like "Christiandad463".

Nice.

I'm surprised this guy isn't blasting Bethesda for Fallout 3 and Skyrim. You can have gay relationships in those games.

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