*Catches up reading* Holy god. I wish I had a journal fen account, this would so be going on fandom_wank.

Daystar Clarion:
I'm absolutely flabbergasted that Zeel hasn't been banned yet.

He's calling people morons, for fuck's sake, if anyone else posted the way he did, they'd have been forgotten by now.

I believe this good gentleman has the answer:

anthony87:
I'd like to think that the mods...nay...EVERYONE on the site is refreshing this page with a cup of tea, a bowl of popcorn and a massive smile cause this shits hilarious!

And while I have you both here, this is for you, for providing much funnez throughout the thread. Now where's @The.Bard? He needs one too.

I could ask why are you so admit in your attempts to vilify Bioware when MANY logical alternatives have been present to why this DLC exists beyond "THEY RIPPED IT OUT OF THE GAME TO SELL IT TOO YOU LATER AS A SCAM?

Also I never said they scribble it down on toilet paper, again your making shit up.

Also I would assume you have never worked in a job with team meetings or that required you to make something?

Things like thinking up new future ideas and pitching them during breaks are commonplace in those types of jobs. You act like the second they go on break they just turn off their minds, or are not allowed to think at all, and sit there drooling in their seats until break is over.

If you like the job you do, which game devs usually do, people tend to spend even their free time during more for their job.

Zeel:

SajuukKhar:
So being brainstormed during a break when they wernt getting paid to work on the game is using core funds?

Are you serious?

Also fun fact, Team meetings were ideas like this are frequently presented to the other Devs arent pat of any ONE games budget.

why are you so compelled to defend Bioware? You have to make up these ridiculous fantasies of like gamers scribbling down shit on toilet paper DURING THEIR break, just so you can defend them? It's insane. I think you need medical assistance.

we're not defending bioware we're wasting our time trying to teach you something

SajuukKhar:
I could ask why are you so admit in your attempts to vilify Bioware when MANY logical alternatives have been present to why this DLC exists beyond "THEY RIPPED IT OUT OF THE GAME TO SELL IT TOO YOU LATER AS A SCAM?

also I never said they scribble it down on toilet paper, again your making shit up.

Also I would assume you have never worked in a job with team meetings or that required you to make something?

things like thinking up new future ideas and pitching them are commonplace in those tpyes of jobs.

You act like the 2nd they go on break they just turn off thierm idns and sit there drooling in thier seats until break is over.

thanks for the laugh i needed that the mental picture was awesome them walking into the coffee room siting in chairs then they start drooling all over them selves

tony2077:
thanks for the laugh i needed that the mental picture was awesome them walking into the coffee room siting in chairs then they start drooling all over them selves

I can't tell if he just doesn't want to, or simply can't, understand that people who like the job they do frequently do their job even when not payed to.

People who work on motorcycles/cars for a living frequently spend their breaks... working on motorcycles/cars. Games Devs are no different.

@Zeel
As has been said before the leaks were old and outdated even before they were leaked, and dont represent the final product.......

Ohh wait bioware lied about that because it doesn't agree with YOUR view right?

Zachary Amaranth:

animehermit:

Yet no one complained when they did the same thing in ME2. Somebody honestly tell me that Shadow Broker and Arrival aren't important to the overall plot of the franchise.

To be fair, Android just did complain about how it was wrong then, too.

I have trouble seeing this as important stuff, barring some major revelation that yes, it changes the plot in major ways. I'd actually go so far as to say Arrival was a bigger deal, and you're right. Very few people complained about that.

This is different. This is Day 1 DLC. On the day your game launches you know what do you want? People playing and enjoying the game with no content held whatsoever (big or small). After a few days, you can swoop in for the kill and grab more money with DLC - this is a social contract that we accepted (maybe we shouldn't have but this ship have sailed).

When you are too anxious to grab our money, some may take offense. It is like going for sex on the first date - some don't mind, but some prefer to be f***ed on their own terms.

SajuukKhar:

tony2077:
thanks for the laugh i needed that the mental picture was awesome them walking into the coffee room siting in chairs then they start drooling all over them selves

I can't tell if he just doesn't want to, or simply can't, understand that people who like the job they do frequently do their job even when not payed to.

People who work on motorcycles/cars for a living frequently spend their breaks... working on motorcycles/cars.

Games Devs are no different.

@Zeel
As has been said before the leaks were old and outdated even before they were leaked, and dont represent the final product.......

Ohh wait bioware lied about that because it doesn't agree with YOUR view right?

i don't understand some people logic is right there in front of them and there staring at the hot chicks rack drooling all over themselves

tony2077:
i don't understand some people logic is right there in front of them and there staring at the hot chicks rack drooling all over themselves

Looks up from copy of jugs... "sorry i wasnt paying attention what now?".

@Zeel
No, every major plot point HAS NOT been confirmed by trailers or the demo or the Artbook, which i remind you IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FINAL PRODUCT.

That's a boldface lie.

SajuukKhar:

tony2077:
i don't understand some people logic is right there in front of them and there staring at the hot chicks rack drooling all over themselves

Looks up from copy of jugs... "sorry i wasnt paying attention what now?".

@Zeel
no, 90% of major plots points HAVE NOT been confirmed by trailers or the demo.

Thats a boldface lie.

i agree there trying hard to not spoil the game for people. the leaks were not intended so there trying to clean up the mess left behind by the people who try to screw it for the rest of us by saying somethings fact when its not. some art books have stuff from the final product but that's becuase some thing don't change. i haven't seen the script leak myself so i can't say and i don't have the full release date game yet either

well see you tomorrow zeel and sajuuk play nice with the littler kids you know your bigger then they are and they may get hurt

so Zeel

I can go on naming things in the leak that have in no way been confirmed.

Aso a large number of things you said were confirmed BEFORE the leak came out. good job there.

SajuukKhar:
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Holy shit! Please use a spoiler box. I know it's not confirmed, but even if there's a chance it may happen... You don't want to go talking about that stuff!

The Pinray:

Holy shit! Please use a spoiler box. I know it's not confirmed, but even if there's a chance it may happen... You don't want to go talking about that stuff!

Spoiler tag added.

though we HAVE spoiled a lot already.

Everything we have seen so far is extremly basic and not plot critical.

Also I would like to point out artbooks FREQUENTLY contain drawing of ideas in alpha and beta versions of games that NEVER make it into the final cut

Just because

artbooks are a source for nothing.

As for the Prothean base on mars we have known that SINCE GAME 1.

SajuukKhar:

The Pinray:

Holy shit! Please use a spoiler box. I know it's not confirmed, but even if there's a chance it may happen... You don't want to go talking about that stuff!

Spoiler tag added.

though we HAVE spoiled a lot already.

Thank you. :) And yeah, you're right. Still, better safe than sorry.

Also, I commend you for keeping your sanity throughout all this tango with His Highness.

If you don't want to go into spoilers then don't bring up how the leak has "confirmed" so much "plot critical" information then go on to list things like

The illusive man thing
The vega thing
The edi thing
the Specter thing

Seriously, hypocrisy much?

Also what makes it worse is that you say we are not arguing the plot points of ME3 but YOUR WHOLE REASON for being pissed is that the Prothean is supposedly PLOT CRITICAL to ME3, which would make it A PLOT POINT OF MASS EFFECT 3.

consistency you have NONE.

TopazFusion:

The Pinray:
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He spoilered his post, but your quote is still staring everyone in the face.
Spoiler it or snip it.

My bad, didn't even notice. Thanks for pointing that out, good sir.

It's been... dealt with.

The Pinray:

TopazFusion:
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My bad, didn't even notice. Thanks for pointing that out, good sir.

It's been... dealt with.

Too bad it was too late; I read the first one, and suddenly: "Aaah, my eyes! They burn with storied knowledge! It cannot be true!"

salinv:

The Pinray:

TopazFusion:
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My bad, didn't even notice. Thanks for pointing that out, good sir.

It's been... dealt with.

Too bad it was too late; I read the first one, and suddenly: "Aaah, my eyes! They burn with storied knowledge! It cannot be true!"

Mass Effect 3 SpoilsPHA+TW9yZGluIGRpZWQ/IEQqKiogaXQsIEkgcmVhbGx5IGxpa2VkIGhpbS4uLjwvcD4=

I'm sorry. :'(

But remember, it's subject to change. Won't know until the game comes out... If that's any consolation.

do you remember that the leak was FROM A OLD VERSION OF THE STORY meaning it was made BEFORE content lockdown?

Ohh wait I forgot you "dismiss" that because Bioware always lies about everything, at least according to YOU and YOU CANT BE WRONG. /sarcasm

The leaks were confirmed to be from a OLDER version of the script meaning the leaked script was from a version BEFORE November and thus BEFORE content lockdown.

nice try though.

The Pinray:

salinv:
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I'm sorry. :'(

But remember, it's subject to change. Won't know until the game comes out... If that's any consolation.

True, though as Zeel seems a bit zealous to point out, the leak (if it was true) happened late enough to worry as to its permanent value in the story. Regardless, there was no context; it might just happen that it is the only valid outcome at the time, and would just be weird to come out otherwise. At least (I hope) Bioware will make it classy and enjoyable in the end. Enjoy the story for not only the destination, but also the journey, non?

Just have to wait for the end.

Zeel,

I will believe the so called "lies", which you have yet to prove are lies in any way, from Casey as long as you keep making up baseless conspiracy theories and acting like they are fact beyond YOU think they are.

Dear lord am I glad I found out this thread was still going on.

So in case anyone wants to know if I having anything new to sa- what? You don't? oh... well did everyone eat all the popcorn?