BioWare Slays Dragon Age II Expansion

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BioWare Slays Dragon Age II Expansion

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Hawke's tale in Kirkwall has officially come to an end, but BioWare's new project may continue the Dragon Age story.

Given the wide swath of opinions about Dragon Age II, maybe it's for the best that BioWare has decided to let it end as it stands. While the game already had two fairly substantial DLC packs, one team at BioWare was hard at work on an upcoming expansion entitled Exalted March. Fans may be disappointed (and detractors may be delighted) to learn that the expansion has been canceled, and the team has been shifted to a new assignment - possibly, BioWare hints, the next entry in the Dragon Age franchise.

While it's not clear exactly what Exalted March would have entailed, its status as an "expansion" would probably put it in line with something like Dragon Age: Awakening. Players likely could have expected a fairly meaty adventure that took place after the storyline of Dragon Age II rather than a new side adventure for the main game. Like Awakening, Exalted March may have set the stage for a new Dragon Age game, especially given BioWare's next comments.

"[The Dragon Age II] team has fully moved onto The Next Thing (tm)," remarks Mark Darrah, a BioWare executive producer, on Twitter. "We'll be very actively looking for feedback on the next DA title, and will be showing the game more than before as it develops." Darrah does not explicitly state that the team's new project is a new installment in the Dragon Age series, but given the team's expertise and Darrah's interest in reigniting the series, the conclusion seems reasonable.

For all the criticisms it endures, BioWare is actually pretty good about listening to its fans. "The most valuable thing we can get out of those meetings is to hear from you on those same topics - what does Dragon Age mean to you, and where would you like to see it go?" asks Chris Priestly, a BioWare community coordinator. "We're excited to hear what you have to say!" You heard the man; get to it!

Source: Eurogamer

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Excellent news, as no one wants to continue on with a story they HATE. Mages templars, mages templars, mages templars ... NO THANK YOU!

Zeckt:
Excellent news, as no one wants to continue on with a story they HATE. Mages templars, mages templars, mages templars ... NO THANK YOU!

They probably will be in the next game and be a big part. :D

OT: Aw... I would have bought it. D:

QUICK SOMEONE MENTION THE MASS EFFECT 3 ENDING!

OT: Good news i guess, DA2 hasn't really had the replay value of DA:O, even with Merrill being adorable. Still, are the 2 DLCs for DA2 any good? forgot that game existed at all (which is a bad thing I guess)

I never actually got around to completing DA2.

That says a lot about the game, considering I loved it's predecessor.

I like the characters more though, Merrill and Varik were awesome.

If they listened to fans, we wouldn't of had the travesty of an ending that was Mass Effect 3, or the horrid departure of practically everything from Dragon Age 1 to Dragon Age 2.

They only major talent Bioware has shown so far, is the amazing capacity to spout sidestepping PR towards all major complaints.

Stick us back in Kirkwall for another week? Taint gunna happen.

AWWWWW

I am one of those who REALLY liked Dragon age 2. It was by no means as good as origins, but I loved it on its own, and would loved a expansion to continue hawks story. All I can hope for is that the next game is a continuation of Hawks tale, I don't want to play as some new shmuck. Also, I hope my sweet Merrill in it, as a full companion. Also Varick... and Anders .... and izzi. I love all of them (except Sebastian)

Moving the entire Dragon Age II team to the streets would have probably been the more sensible choice, and yeah I'm sure that Bioware is "pretty good" about listening to its fans, about as good as my bedroom wall when I talk to it, it's a really good listener but also an immovable object.
Not that "Bioware" seems to have much leeway over decisions they make over at EA corporate at this point anymore.

Exalted March huh? Were they gonna go for a fantasy version of The Crusades? That's pretty much what an exalted march is.

Does anyone find it interesting that in the same day that EA announces it is pulling support for games less than a year old, a Bioware project for a game that is less than a year old is suddenly shafted?

After Dragon Age 2 it'll take quite a bit to get me interested in this series again.

Wonder what plot points they'll ignore this time.

o.0? you mean they where working on it still? i thought they'd given that one up already ....

not that, looking back at DA:O i could be very charitable ...

"Given the wide swath of opinions about Dragon Age II"

yeahh gotta say that because of the 5 star review on the Escapist and the peoples' response to it lol...

personally haven't played DA2 yet but do plan to once I finish Origins...eventually

Danial:
QUICK SOMEONE MENTION THE MASS EFFECT 3 ENDING!

OT: Good news i guess, DA2 hasn't really had the replay value of DA:O, even with Merrill being adorable. Still, are the 2 DLCs for DA2 any good? forgot that game existed at all (which is a bad thing I guess)

I was completely unaware that DA2 had any DLC packs at all...well, other than day one stuff...I assume it had day-one stuff.

Can't say I would have wanted it. Getting through Dragon Age 2 was like trying to get through Two Towers for me (ie: I tried more than once and adjusted expectations did nothing to help me). I'm curious to see what the next entry in the Dragon Age series will look like though honestly, if it's another beat-em-up with RPG elements I'm out unless of course they have the balls to market it as a BeuRPG but even then I'm probably going to stay away from whatever they come out with next.

Waiting for this to turn into a Mass Effect 3 sucks, so will Dragon Age thread.

However I love Dragon Age 1 and 2, and can't wait for a third. I love the series about a hundred times more than Mass effect.

Has all the DLC for DA2 come out now then?

duchaked:
"Given the wide swath of opinions about Dragon Age II"

yeahh gotta say that because of the 5 star review on the Escapist and the peoples' response to it lol...

personally haven't played DA2 yet but do plan to once I finish Origins...eventually

I actually just finished DA2 for the first time over the weekend. For what it's worth, I really liked it. It had great characters, fun combat, and a decent villain. I thought DA:O was way better, and I understand why some people weren't thrilled with it, but I definitely do not understand the widespread, vitriolic, "BioWare-murdered-my-family" DA2 hatred.

I think DA:O was one of the best games I have ever played. DA2 was not, but it was still a good game. I just hope they move more towards the way the first one was on whatever project they decide on. The second one, while good, became repetitive way too quick. The more into it I got, the more I was fighting enemies using the exact same tactics. And the whole reusing areas again and again and again was just stupid. C'mon Bioware, you're better than that.

Anyone else get a "help, this ship is sinking" vibe off this?

I mean, if the project's been in development for a year, possibly longer, and suddenly they can the project. That's all the money that went into it, down the drain. A franchise like this? That really makes me wonder if TOR isn't really hurting Bioware more than it immediately appears.

It's always possible a project gets horribly behind schedule, but even there, the answer is rarely to kill the project, just throw people at the problem until it can ship...

Well...DA2 wasn't THAT bad. It's not like it was a flop. Sure, it probably wasn't as good as DA:O but...with DA:O, they caught lightning in a bottle. When compared to its predecessor, of course DA2's got nothing on it.

I think they shouldn't give up on their game so fast. There are still people out there who love the game; just look at this thread.

Exalted march story would of went like this :

The mages and templars are escalating out of control in kirkwall! you must pick one side in the war even when the most logical thing to do would be to revolt against BOTH of them, and be backstabbed by the faction of your choice so you can fight bosses on both sides regardless of what you do for them.

In DA3, you must either take the side of the drug trade murdering innocent people in the streets or the corrupt government to make them richer in the same street in kirkwall for the whole game. However, the street can be modified to have carts or even stalls now and then for EXTRA CONTENT!. You HAVE NO CHOICE you absolutely MUST pick either corrupt faction and dance for them like a puppet for 30+ hours of your life otherwise don't buy the damn game!

Mages templars mages templars Mages templars mages templars and oh did I mention there would be mages and templars? are you sick of hearing those 2 words yet? too bad! Mages templars mages templars

A good thing I say. Dragon Age 2 is kind of a lost cause, and I know Bioware can do so much better than they did with it. I hope they keep the good elements of DA2 but also avoid the critical flaws it had.

So I guess this means a 'extended edition' of DA2 will be coming out soon, with the DLC.

Woohoo?

All they gotta do in DA3 is try and tell ONE story, instead of 20 in act 1, finish the game in act 2, and start something completely different in act 3. I could have lived with the copypaste dungeons and stupidly actiony combat if the story wasn't schizophrenic. Also, don't forget the HK47/Shale this time.

Even though I loved DA2, I'm actually happy about this news. If it means they'll be able to do substantial work on DA3 now and get it out in solid form, I have no issue at all with scrapping an expansion.

Just wait, all the choices you had made in the previous 2 Dragon Age games is going to influence the outcome of the third game in the series where you get to choose between what color armor you'll be wearing when the main baddie shoves a 4 foot pike up your bum.

If I had to guess at which plot point's they'll ignore in this one (if ME3's conclusion is any indication) I'd have to guess almost all of them. The method they accomplish this in DA seems to be by throwing you to the ass end of the planet with each installment so your decisions can't overlap.

Whereas in ME they just opt to reset all your choices at the ending, thus skirting have to address them all! Isn't that keen!

Definitely for the best. You can only polish a turd so much.

Dragon Age is really starting to look like the Highlander of video games. Excellent first installment, shitty sequel that will (hopefully) never be mentioned again, and then a bunch of other titles that will try to recapture the spirit of the original.

Also I really hope they just don't bother with save imports. It only kind-of worked well in Mass Effect 3 and was completely broken in Dragon Age 2. Better to just forget about it.

Chris Priestly, a BioWare community coordinator. "We're excited to hear what you have to say!"

Yeah after the ME3 Ending debacle, I bet the largest portion of the bioware staff dreams of wringing the neck of every little fanboy until they feel thorax being crushed, and capilaries pop internally as the last little ember of life leaves their pasty faces.

OT:

Im actually torn on this point. For one, DA2s story was miserable. Basically it is the story of the rise to power of a city councilman.

However.... the story had a great deal of potential to be expanded upon. I almost feel that was what Bioware was trying to do was shift the focus away from the warden in Origins onto Hawke as the main protagonist of the series almost as if DA2 was actually the first installment of another trilogy.

At the End of DA2 I had envisioned DA3 being a story that brought the warden from Origins into the story line with Hawke and Hawke continuing to gain power and influence across all the lands as he becomes almost as notable as the warden who ended the blight. That could mean the warden would be a part of Hawkes new party or it could mean that Hawke & the warden could be adversaries and Hawke is charged with pursuing the Warden.

So in a way even though I greatly disliked DA2, and truly disliked the Story of it, It seems that Bioware was actually taking this in the right direction had this too not turned into another situation where the fans will end up screwing something up because they lack vision and foresight to see that bioware had more plans than just that single installment.

So bioware, maybe its time you STOPPED listening to the fans, because really nothing good ever comes from listening to sheeple.

Bummer. I was really looking forward to something good, like Legacy, after the blandness of the Mark of the Assassin one. While the gameplay of DA2 was lacking, the narrative was still really amazing. I'd have loved to get more of it.

Dammit, I actually liked Dragon Age 2, I was looking forward to seeing the next expansion.

Well, one can hope the lessons they learned during DA2 will lead to DA3 being better, and one can hope that they don't saddle you with playing as just a human again.

Oh, that's too bad. Granted, Dragon Age II had some rough spots, but I enjoyed it. And the two expansion packs proved that the team was listening to the critics because they both poked fun at the game itself, and gave us new exciting adventures. I would have liked to see if they pulled everything together for the expansion pack. Still, I had a feeling this might happen. II seemed to fall off the radar when it came to DLC, where Origin was still getting stuff many months later. Not a good sign.

Based on the title, my guess is that it would have been going after the Quenari (unlikely), or a war against some Tevintar wanna-be mages now that the Circles have all broken. I would have liked to see that, and have it end with the Veil being destroyed. That would have been the perfect set up for Dragon Age III.

cursedseishi:
If they listened to fans, we wouldn't of had the travesty of an ending that was Mass Effect 3, or the horrid departure of practically everything from Dragon Age 1 to Dragon Age 2.

Honestly, after a few weeks on the Bioware Social forums, I can honestly say that ignoring a good portion of their fanbase really is their best option. You do NOT want to know how many endings would've involved naked TIMs and Shepards of either gender with Cerberus being regarded as the best thing ever in the galaxy.

Renegades are f***ing CRAZY man!

Zeckt:
Exalted march story would of went like this :

The mages and templars are escalating out of control in kirkwall! you must pick one side in the war even when the most logical thing to do would be to revolt against BOTH of them, and be backstabbed by the faction of your choice so you can fight bosses on both sides regardless of what you do for them.

In DA3, you must either take the side of the drug trade murdering innocent people in the streets or the corrupt government to make them richer in the same street in kirkwall for the whole game. However, the street can be modified to have carts or even stalls now and then for EXTRA CONTENT!. You HAVE NO CHOICE you absolutely MUST pick either corrupt faction and dance for them like a puppet for 30+ hours of your life otherwise don't buy the damn game!

Mages templars mages templars Mages templars mages templars and oh did I mention there would be mages and templars? are you sick of hearing those 2 words yet? too bad! Mages templars mages templars

I sense much anger in you

OT: Well, I was wondering when I'd hear about this. Either way. Can't say I'm really shocked, mind you. I'm wondering where this would have gone...

I probably would have bought it, depends on the price of course. (And if I can still find my copy of DA2).

Also, I think people are getting a bit sick of the BioWare hate now, can't you guys move into something else, at least until they announce DA3.

In all seriousness, I would like to see them bring back the best parts of Dragon Age: Origins and Neverwinter Nights and maybe Baulder's Gate and stick them in DA3.

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