TV News Report Warns of "Cyber-Bullying" on Xbox Live

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Thank god Ill already be dead by the time they wrap us all in bubbles to protect us from each other, us vicious word sayers us.

Why do people forget that the only one who can give words power, is you? Hell, just this week I got refered to as a villianous pedophile for making a joke about the giant rats in florida are not actually Rats, Its the early assembly of the Republican national convention. And you know what? nary a fuck was given. If I spent all my time getting bent out of shape over someone saying something completely moronic on the internet my heart would have exploded by 2001

I've always said that when I have kids they are not aloud to play games online with voice chat on (unless playing with friends and its supervised or whatever) until they are at least in high school. For all the people who say they hear worse in school: this maybe true by the time high school rolls around but if I heard some of the shit I say now online in a game I was playing when I was 13 I think my brain would explode. People can say way crazier shit than, "You suck dick noob-faggot".

Tends to happen because most parent's use game's as 'Electronic baby sitters', the world is full of lazy people

Hah...I guess it never really sunk in before just how bad parenting is lately. Guess I should feel lucky to have grown up in a home where that kind of shit wouldn't be tolerated.

Case in point: My guardians took away a T rated game when I was thirteen because an adult they knew (my biological mother) told them it was full of nudity and hardcore sex. She never once told them that it was just her own copy that had this, being modded and all.

Of course they did the same mistake these "I do not care what my child does" parents make as well. They didn't read the rating for the game. Eh, guess it's just a parent thing.

I still find it really strange that I've had xbox live for about 2 years and still have not had a single 11 year old scream profanities at me.

Just remember life is unrated. also are Call of Duty games not rated M for strong language as well? and it will say that "Online interactions are not rated by the ERSB" so parents more pewpew less QQ kk? once they leave don't expose them to everything at once,let them learn,life has NO AGE LIMITS, so insted of complaining to a company about something that has been going on for years read the ratings and if you have a problem then leave or ignore it.

waj9876:
Hah...I guess it never really sunk in before just how bad parenting is lately. Guess I should feel lucky to have grown up in a home where that kind of shit wouldn't be tolerated.

Case in point: My guardians took away a T rated game when I was thirteen because an adult they knew (my biological mother) told them it was full of nudity and hardcore sex. She never once told them that it was just her own copy that had this, being modded and all.

Of course they did the same mistake these "I do not care what my child does" parents make as well. They didn't read the rating for the game. Eh, guess it's just a parent thing.

Dude there are people in middle school kids who are already having sex. yeah parenting has gone to shit.

Greg Tito:
Until they learn to play more civilized games like Magic, it probably isn't a bad idea for parents to pay attention to what is being said over the headsets.

A child this young shouldn't be playing COD in the first place. Teach them Magic instead, it's hard to play at a high level, but I know 8-10 year olds who at least know how to play a basic game.

news report there is swearing racism and homophobia on xbox live which could be interpretted as cyber bullying. next up the sky is fucking blue!

A father of several boys, Matthew Kinney, said it's important to listen to what you're kids are hearing from other players. "Don't let your kid go upstairs and close his bedroom door, and sit there and play all night," he said. "That's crazy. You have no idea what's going on, who's saying what."

dear father, please die. What is crazy is thnking you can control your childrens private gaming life. you have NO RIGHT to hear what kids are playing. it is THEIR CHOICE.

Fappy:
I've always said that when I have kids they are not aloud to play games online with voice chat on (unless playing with friends and its supervised or whatever) until they are at least in high school.

please dont have kids. We already have enough people with mental disabilities caused by sheltering.

Here's an idea...don't give your underage kids access TO FUCKING CALL OF DUTY IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE! This is why we have an ESRB. But parents don't pay attention to that cause they don't actually want to raise their kids they want to turn on the system let them veg out and go and...I don't know what parents do...whack off? Certainly ain't raising kids oh hell noooooo!

A friend who worked at game stop told me this story. He was working the register when a mother and child walk up to the counter. She was buying Grand Theft Auto. (I'm not which one but does it matter?) The boy, according to my friend, looked a little over 10 maybe 12 or 13. My friend being the helpful sales clerk he was told her that this game was rated for a Teen or an adult and may not be right for the little tyke. The mother replied 'he can handle it'. Two to three hours later the mother returns ranting and raving about what was on the game and why he sold it to her. He said. "I tried to tell you."

So what I'm getting is that parents by and large are lazy, ignorant, and well incompetent. By no means all certainly but in the big picture? Yeah they...shouldn't be breeding.

Alright, now thats fun on way too many levels.

First off, Kids shouldnt be playing M rated Games, or in fact not play Multiplayer in the sense of actually being capable of interacting with other People, or simply, keep the damn Headset off and just play. Im against "game ratings" on principle, i grew up playing games like Duke Nukem when i was just in elementary school at the time, i didnt turn out worse cause of it. I prefer thinking in mental maturity, if you can act like a adult, or at least sensible mature person in general, i dont give a damn how physically old someone is.

But more to the point, they get this now, after..hrm, well its pretty much years. I mean this whole thing didnt start with just Consoles after all, but it seems to me that they have missed the important part that the most vocal and abusive in terms of language are underage People, in fact those "8 year olds" are the ones spouting off the most. So maybe the Problem lies elsewhere?

I mean, if we take out all the underaged Players from Xbox Live and such services, i bet we could cut down on the general verbal abuse by at least 60%, if not more. Im really curious when we get the first "news" in regard to something like this, you know, parents being outraged at their kids for being a pottymouth as it were.

Number one big problem here...Call of duty already contains swearing. A lot of it.

Then there's the fact that the worst offenders ARE gorram kids.

Then there's the fact that xbox live already has procautions against such things, with the rep system, mute button, blocking communications, and the complaints system.

Yeah, basically, more knee jerk reporting by mainstream media on gaming.

Strazdas:

A father of several boys, Matthew Kinney, said it's important to listen to what you're kids are hearing from other players. "Don't let your kid go upstairs and close his bedroom door, and sit there and play all night," he said. "That's crazy. You have no idea what's going on, who's saying what."

dear father, please die. What is crazy is thnking you can control your childrens private gaming life. you have NO RIGHT to hear what kids are playing. it is THEIR CHOICE.

When your kid is locked in their room all night, playing multiplayer games intended for people twice their age, you're just being a terrible parent. "Their choice" or not, it's pants-on-head retarded.

And this is why there is a big, red M15+ sticker on the game box with text that reads "gaming experience may change online".

If you're buying this for your 8 year-old without researching the game or taking the label seriously, I believe that you lose your right to bitch about the game or the online community that surrounds it.

We're talking 8-, 9-, 10-, 11-year-old kids who are getting exposed to this regularly,"

More accurately : We're talking about 8-, 9-, 10-, 11-year-old kids who are exposing everyone to this regularly.

Kopikatsu:

Tanis:
Seeing as how the WORST players I've met online sound like 8 year old...

Maybe parents should parent their kids before bitching about others'.

This is pretty much the truth.

Also...isn't CoD (and other multiplayer games where people would have mics) rated M? I mean...why would you have your 8 year old kids playing that in the first place?

Not saying that because a game is rated M, that gives people free reign to spew verbal abuse on whoever draws their ire, but it's kind of...yeah.

Exactly. It's rare for me playing an M-rated game online to meet an adult who trashtalks, griefs and generally acts like a cyberbully. It is common for me to meet children way too young to be playing that game who do those things just because they can.

So if one wants combat cyberbullying, a good first step is to keep children off of age-inappropriate games.

ranger12116:

waj9876:
Hah...I guess it never really sunk in before just how bad parenting is lately. Guess I should feel lucky to have grown up in a home where that kind of shit wouldn't be tolerated.

Case in point: My guardians took away a T rated game when I was thirteen because an adult they knew (my biological mother) told them it was full of nudity and hardcore sex. She never once told them that it was just her own copy that had this, being modded and all.

Of course they did the same mistake these "I do not care what my child does" parents make as well. They didn't read the rating for the game. Eh, guess it's just a parent thing.

Dude there are people in middle school kids who are already having sex. yeah parenting has gone to shit.

I'm pretty sure that isn't a parenting issue so much as a societal one.

Maybe because the 18 is not just for the violence? just a small chance

What's this? 8, 9, 10 and 11 year olds subject to profanities and hefty insults in online games? GAMES WITH TEEN/MATURE AGE RATINGS?

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and you don't like it and think it's Microsoft's fault that we, the mature community, talk maturely when your kids are in our games?

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I'm sorry, but they have a ratings for a reason. If you don't like it, then go away.

Strazdas:

A father of several boys, Matthew Kinney, said it's important to listen to what you're kids are hearing from other players. "Don't let your kid go upstairs and close his bedroom door, and sit there and play all night," he said. "That's crazy. You have no idea what's going on, who's saying what."

dear father, please die. What is crazy is thnking you can control your childrens private gaming life. you have NO RIGHT to hear what kids are playing. it is THEIR CHOICE.

It's their choice? How are they supposed to make these choices? Children are by definition mentally incompetent. Not only are they almost completely ignorant, their bodies are still growing their decisionmaking apparatus until they're around sixteen (the process actually ends around 22-24, but it's mostly complete at 16). That's why in the absence of parents to make childrens' decisions for them, legal guardians are appointed to do the same.

Re "private gaming life" .... please look up the word "compartmentalizing", and then, for your own sake, stop doing it. It's not a good thing.

Jesus fucking christ people in this thread are stupid. Just because there is a news article about the dangers of online bullying and warning parents about the language does not mean that parents do not already know this shit. Stating the obvious is never a bad thing. We all know that drinking and driving is a bad idea but hey they still have dont drink and drive ads.

Greg Tito:
TV News Report Warns of "Cyber-Bullying" on Xbox Live

In a lot of ways, kids aren't defined by their influences, but rather by the relative weight of those influences. Your kid is only going to be defined by violent videogames or bad language if that makes up the bulk of his/her influences.

If that's the case, the problem isn't with the medium in question. It's that a child is being allowed that much unsupervised time with that medium.

Now, of course, a parent can't sit and watch every moment a child plays games. There should be a way for parents to trust their kids. That's not the problem (though a lot could be solved if parents actually read warning labels).

The problem is that these kids are allowed to spend this quantity of time with the "bad influences," and that parents aren't doing as much to counterbalance this by putting the kid with positive influences. If parents continue to allow themselves to be a "neutral influence," and all of a child's fun time is occupied by "bad influences," what do they think is going to happen?

You know what, parents? Limit the time they play, more than the content. Put them in activities. Force them if you have to. (They're eight, what do they really know about what they want or need anyway?)

Greg Tito:
snipzorz

If the writer who penned this news piece based his information on the news report included in the OP, the article is misleading.

The news report never mentions Call of Duty or any other game specifically, but simply referred to online games in general (i.e. "experts warn ... if you let your child play online games through xbox, playstation, or the computer")

Meaning that the focus on COD that everyone is raging about in the thread is not only unwarranted, but unfounded. It might have been the game he was complaining about, but we don't know for sure.

If unintentional, the slip is indicative of shoddy journalism, imho. If intentional, its unethical sensationalism to drive up traffic to the website.

Terminate421:
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le gaben face XDXDXDXDXD

OT: Stating the obvious here, but what planet do these parents live on? Are they seriously ok with gross violence but the moment anyone says "Faggot" shit hits the fan? Or are they simply ignorant of what their kid is playing?

And shit, xbox live? Even UNO is a glorified cyber sex game.

In times like these I am glad to be part of the PC master race. The playerbase is just as bad but the technically inept children and parents tend to steer clear.

This just in, watching the news may expose you to tech stories that are 10 years old.

I've never bought the whole "cyberbulling" fear. The tools to stop it, the mute and ignore button, is right there in front of the player the entire time. JUST PRESS IT and the bad people go away.

To people in the report survey - Maybe then don't let your 8 year old child play an 18+ rated game.

Nevermind that the most vocal gob-shites online are the young brats.

More like cyber bull-s***. It's called muting and blocking. There isn't s*** anyone can do to you if you don't want it done. Unless you're offended by teabagging. In which case you should stop playing FPSs.

Also, 'internet expert' Aftab, how exactly does one steal a password through the chat system? I'd really like to know.

My opinion on cyber-bullying in general is that it's only an issue when 'victims' don't use what's available to them.

Lastly, 8, 9, 10, 11 year olds shouldn't be on an M-rated game, parents. I know they would be anyway and I think they should be able to be (which they are)...but you cannot pull any BS when you are going against the reccommendations stamped on the box. You may be stupid but you're not about to tell me you're colourblind and illiterate as well.

THAT INTERNET SAFETY EXPERT HAS A SWEET TYPING STYLE SHE DOES NOT EVEN DEPRESS THE KEYS.

"We're talking 8-, 9-, 10-, 11-year-old kids who are getting exposed to this regularly."

Ha! Who do they think is spewing all this nonsense? Mostly it's kids in the same age-range!

Also ... they do know they're talking about a "Mature" rated game here, right?

Ultimately it's a parent's decision what they feel their kids can handle (individual kids develop in different ways and at different rates), it's not like there isn't plenty of warning right on the box that this game isn't really intended for young kids.

Some day, when my kids' generation starts having kids of their own, maybe we can finally bury this idea that all video games are for kids!

I'm actually kind of impressed with the news report.

They actually give Microsoft their dues for doing their best to police Xbox Live and don't really demonize gaming in general - the main point isn't "Gaming is Evil!" but "You shouldn't let your kids play games online unattended".

Parents:

Once again showing that it's not THEIR fault that the game has douchebags and violent content, but rather it's the GAME'S fault for being... itself.

I have no idea whether our generation is stupid because of us or because our parents are dumber than we are.

I laughed so hard once when I played on xbox live that I nearly hurt myself.

God the insults they hurl are so pathetic, and their voices just so...silly.
It was like having Alvin and the Chimpmunks insulting me.

End of the day though its just words,and some real petty people saying em.

The mind constantly boggles at the ignorant, cretinous and down-right intellectually dishonest tactics that the main media, particularly in America, employ to scare people against all the "un-wholesome" activities.

Although this particular case does seem to take the biscuit, when they are 'raising the problem' of children being subjected to trash-talk, violence, foul language and bullying.
Now as a Brit, I may be wrong but foul-language, violence and trash talk are common in the average American lifestyle isn't it, especially if you were to watch the wholesome sport of American Football?

This isn't attack on the American's that visit the site, just another example of mainstream media hypocrisy.
You have to laugh at the idiocy really.

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