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I've gone on record saying that I'm not against censorship altogether. There are some things in this world that are objectively wrong, and not a matter of opinion. I also think that perhaps a decade or two in which the majority of people in the world have no rights at all might get them to treat their rights like Free Speech with a little more respect than they currently do. | |
So long as they don't arrest someone for saying over the internet something that would be perfectly legal to walk up to a stranger and say in real life... Who am I kidding, that's exactly what's going to happen. The telephone has special rules because it wastes people money and exclusively facilitates private conversations... the internet has that function, but trolling tends to be the equivalent of shouting offensive things in a crowded marketplace... | |
I'm curious as to why people say this thing can be abused because of how broad and up for interpretation it is, and then proceed to view it as a good thing. Is being specific too much to ask from a lawmaker nowadays? Edit: Oh, and by the way, "offending" someone being a crime sounds just fucking grand. | |
And who gave you the authority to decide what's objectively right or wrong? Who gave anyone the authority? What if you're wrong? The last time people shut others up in accordance to their opinions of what was right or wrong, they called it the Inquisition and pretty much everyone right now can agree that it was a really really bad idea. I think it's you who should learn to respect your freedoms, because they're other people's freedoms as well. | |
It's called slander, and yes, someone can be arrested for "trolling" on TV, the internet should be no different. While I think the wording is a bit vague, I fully agree that this would, after some changes, be a positive thing for the internet. Trolls SHOULD be considered criminals, they definitely aren't humans, that's for sure. Next up: Griefers
I question what rock you've been living under. Homosexuals get it SO easy in this country, that all they have to do is say the words "hate speech" and they get what they want. Christians? They don't get a voice in any matter, and are always being laughed at. | |
Guess im going to jail now thanks for imforming me that when ever anyone dosnt like a joke i say i am now a criminal >.> some times i think everyone else in this state is ... oh i better not finsh that i dont have 2.5k to waste. | |
I think a lot of people are overreacting about this. Of course Arizon isn't going to can someone for saying "fuck you" online. Politicians do it themselves all the time (when the press isn't around of course). | |
lmao riiight ..... the retirement center of the mid west is butthurt about trolling on the internet :p give me a break, | |
True and those people can potentially be arrested for "disturbing the peace". And I don't see why the internet should be any different. I do, however, agree with the fact that there is a difference between telephonic contact and that via the internet, but for harrassment on one to be illigal and for the other to be totally unbound by the law seems like too big a gap to me. | |
Hmmmmmmmmm....well why not? This really doesn't bother me at all. I don't troll, so I guess I'm fine. Go ahead, I was always one of those assholes who think that we need harsher punishment. So is it bad for me to say I like the Turkish method of handling things? You know, catch someone stealing and they lose a hand? That sounds fair to me........I have a feeling a lot of people will hate me now. | |
PROTIP: If you think you are being trolled, that's because you are not PROTIP Numero Zwei: All those actions are harassment. Why do we use a relatively new expression to replace "harassment"? Because we are retarded, trolling != harassment and there would be no point in making up a new term to replace "harassment" You people need to stop throwing around buzzwords. I am tired with the "entitled", "hater", "you don't like it because it's popular" or even "boohoo you didn't like ME3 because it was sad".
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The problem is... Just because you posted that comment, I could accuse of trying to troll this board. Heck, if you replied to me and exposed all of your opinions on how I am wrong, I could easily say you are trolling. Face it. Anyone who engages in any rational interaction is bound to be called a troll. In real life, people either say "you might have a point, but I still think I am right" or "I just think you have no clue on what you are talking about". In the internet, people simply "LALALALA I AM COVERING MY EARS BECAUSE IF YOU DISAGREE WITH MY PERFECT LOGIC YOU ARE A TROLL AND YOU SHOULD BE BANNED, MODS PLEASE BAN THE TROLL BECAUSE HE HURT MY FEELINGS WITH HIS WORDS LALALA". | |
Americans don't want to let go of it for some reason, because apparently the fact that americans receive the content means the person who provides it should be arrested, even if they live half a world away. Hell, they can arrest me and ban me from a country I've never been to nor intended to go to. | |
A comedy show usually involves people who are stupid. Now, are you going to stop use contraception because some guy on the TV argued it wasn't needed? If you did, you would be blaming your stupidity on a TV actor who was just playing a character Glenn Beck and Bill O'Rilley should be arrested for trolling too. Basically what you mean is that a TV channel can't expose people to extremist views or play April's Fools jokes because our actions should be of their responsibility. I am completely against the concept that we shouldn't be allowed to think for ourselves. | |
Meh, good point. Although I'm pretty sure that the bill classified trolling as threats,annoying people, ect. But you do make a valid point. | |
Finally! I can call the cops on the aunt that posts eight hundred pictures of her kids every single goddamn day on my Facebook feed, and the uncle who keeps forwarding me chain emails whinging about how the muslims are destroying our freedoms. Six months in jail sounds about right. | |
1. Find e-mails of those signing up for the bill. That's all. | |
They're not the same badge, perhaps, but in a more general sense they are very much the same. People in positions of power and responsibility, who are supposed to be responsible for ensuring our safety and security, instead use that power to advance their own agendas. The Department of Justice declares waterboarding legal. Arizona gave its police forces a mandate to demand papers from whomever they want. Different, and the same. | |
Oh shit I live in Arizona | |
Yet on the bright side, we'll finally be able to clean up the CoD community! (In all honesty, this is a horrible, horrible law. Someone protest this. Now.) | |
So you can have people around the world who anonymously call you s mean name because you were acting like a twat fined for upwards of $2500? Even though things like being offended or annoyed are subjective? I would love to see this enforced, if only to see Arizona law enforcement struggle to do anything about the guy a continent away who said your youtube video was shit. Captcha: Tune In, tune in tonight to see Outlandish legislation regarding the internet fail some more. | |
Didn't read the whole thing did you? The law specifies that either the sender or the receiver can be in Arizona and it will still be a crime | |
I, for one, can't wait for exhibit A. That's when they roll out the TV and rick roll the jury. | |
I think this would fall more on sites that have user names and avatars such as the escapist or Facebook. Not on some random image board you can post as anonymous or use a trip-code and get daily doses of strike witches porns. That aside..well now this is just.. ah hell it's laughable to be honest good luck policing this and keeping people out jail/prisons. This really would help out there economy too because we all know that companies love to hire people with a back-ground...just a question to anyone that lives in Arizona, who the hell votes for these people?? | |
While I'm all for jerks getting their comeuppance, it seems to me that if you're going to start trying to legislate good character targeting internet trolls rather than say, bigots or misogynists is like trying to swat a fly while your house is being surrounded by giant flesh eating spiders. Priorities, people. Christ and that's assuming that this bill is introduced with the best of intentions. Last I checked no one repealed the law of unintended consequences. | |
I am so glad that I live in Australia, the land of the (nearly) free and the (mildly) loigical | |
It only took you how long to stop banning M-rated video games?
In theory? Sure. In practice? Hell no. Any serious law official will refuse anything frivolous like that. The law doesn't mean it's illegal to call someone an idiot online, it means you can't use e-mail or social websites to harass, annoy, and threaten another individual. I could call you a moron, and nobody would care if you complained, but if I start sending e-mails threatening your life or safety, or post multiple profane or lewd messages on your Facebook wall, then this law can throw the book at me. | |
That's why I put the (mildly) in! That and the stuff going on about the MA15+ rating in SA... | |
Just a thought, we don't really have any rights. There's a bunch of 'shortcut laws' that are being made for their convenience so they don't have to go through as much stuff before charging the people that have gained their unwanted attention. I think this is just another shortcut for them. | |
To everyone, this bill is offensive and will oppress the people of Arizona. To the people of Arizona, this new bill is just a Tuesday. | |
I CAN'T!!! Oh God... I tried but I can't.... | |
Sure, that's fine, nobody has a problem with that. It's fine to have the ability to think for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=596U_BwEVgM This on the other hand, this is NOT okay. People like this should never be allowed into society. This is exactly what the internet has become, and if we don't act by ourselves, bills are going to crop up to try and combat this. While this isn't the flagship of the argument, that being hate-mail (another common internet act) it sure does target roughly the same audience. It's simple, we can clean ourselves up now, or have the government force us to later. Since the internet won't change, I'll stand behind our government when the hammer falls on this barbarianism. | |
Then you should probably get glasses. Arizona is indeed a very Christian state. I'm not shocked that a group of people notoriously intolerant would want to continue to make laws that enforce their views. | |
That's funny, because our PG rating for movies and games is M in America. We never banned R rated games, most of them were just rated MA instead--we must have stronger stomachs than the yanks. In fact, the U.S. has banned a great deal more than us. It's fun to do research and not speak out my ass. | |
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You are seriously miscalculating how many people this would affect. Besides, it's not even about that. This is outright censorship. Thought police. Everyone gets angry at some point, and they should be free to speak their mind and deal with the consequences ON THE INTERNET. Not in real life.