British Teachers Still Blaming Games for Schoolyard Violence

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British Teachers Still Blaming Games for Schoolyard Violence

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Games are being linked to an increase in "hitting, hurting and thumping" in British schools.

Children are vile little goblins. That's a concrete fact. They're forever climbing, drooling, drawing or choking on things they shouldn't have touched in the first place. As infuriating as they are to adults, the ungrateful little turdlets manage to be even more unpleasant to each other. They're getting worse too. In England at least, reports of violent behavior involving schoolchildren seem to be increasing year over year. To find out why, you have to travel through the tremendous buck-passing conga line. The government blames the parents, the parents blame the teachers and the teachers blame - you guessed it - video games. In this case, violent video games that the kids shouldn't have in the first place.

This coming Wednesday, at the annual conference of the Association of Teachers and Lecturers - the same group that graced our front page last week with demands for more "stringent legislation" regarding parents buying games for their kids - former president, Alison Sheratt, intends to claim that games with "horrific" content are responsible for an increase in violent behavior in schools. She's also going to claim that teachers have witnessed young pupils "acting out quite graphic scenes" and that games are responsible for an increase in "hitting, hurting and thumping."

Sheratt, a teacher at Riddlesden St Mary's Primary School in West Yorkshire, says she's seen children "throwing themselves out of the window of the play car in slow motion and acting out blood spurting from their bodies," apparently in imitation of whatever awful murder-simulations they've been playing on their consoles.

I don' think the fact that children, thick as they are, tend to emulate whatever entertainment their parents stick in front of them, but I do wonder why games are singled out over, say, movies, or television.

Sheratt also claims that since gaming is a "fairly solitary existence" it can have a negative effect on communication skills, which affects school performance.

"Sadly, there is a noticeable correlation between the children who admit to playing games and those who come to school really tired," she added.

Honestly, I've spent far too many classes in a post-all-night-gaming-session coma to even dream of disputing that point.

The Association of Teachers and Lecturers will meet this Wednesday. It's expected that the group will back a motion calling for the Teacher's Union to commission more research into the link between gaming and child behavior.

Source: The Telegraph

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KIDS - WANT - TO - SMACK - EACHOTHER!!
you people are teachers! you should knows this stuff!
my little brother was raised on barbie dolls (don't ask) and he still discovered how fun it was to throw them at the wall and stomp on them!

Yeah, I read this, couldn't help but think back to when I was in grade school and the WWF was blamed for every violent situation.

These videogames are making our students un-conch-onable!

Kids beat the shit out of each other because we are living in an age which glorifies violence to an almost masturbatory extent. That, and the fact that everyone in this generation seems to have no sense of self-control, and that should go double for children.

stricter legislation?

what about...education?!..hey parents...see this 15+ rating here? if you worry about little john and his games you might want to take note

anyway, this really isnt worth getting riled up over...Im pretty mcuh imune to this kind of thing...birds fly, fish swim and aults dont like the "vid-eee-ooohh" games

PureIrony:
Kids beat the shit out of each other because we are living in an age which glorifies violence to an almost masturbatory extent. That, and the fact that everyone in this generation seems to have no sense of self-control, and that should go double for children.

pretty sure thats been going on since caveman times

me and my brother used to get into fights all the time (and he was a biter)

PureIrony:
Kids beat the shit out of each other because we are living in an age which glorifies violence to an almost masturbatory extent. That, and the fact that everyone in this generation seems to have no sense of self-control, and that should go double for children.

Humans are naturally violent critters, it has very little to do with the "age we live in" crap.

Kids have gotten into scraps for a long time, its nothing new. Maybe instead of taking the easy way and blaming games people should see if the child's home environment isn't the cause for their violent behavior.

They see children that they think have been warped by a culture that they dont understand.

I see the same children being human.

PureIrony:
Kids beat the shit out of each other because we are living in an age which glorifies violence to an almost masturbatory extent. That, and the fact that everyone in this generation seems to have no sense of self-control, and that should go double for children.

This reminds me of the people who complain that we're making kids into wimps who can't handle violence like in the good old days.

I'm gonna say that we probably don't glorify violence much more than before.

Ahem...

Dear British teachers, At what point exactly did you forget that the teacher is to be blamed for the failures of the student?

You dont like them exhibiting the same typical behavior exhibited by generations of children? How about teaching them to not act like children then? If you feel encumbered to teach them as their parents would not condone teaching them how to behave, then, teach the parents to teach the children.

Blame where blame is due. I dont think teachers are truly to blame. However I will claim they are because its every bit as rational to blame the teachers failing to keep the kids under control as it is to blame the video games for the behavior.

doesnt matter what it is. kids will naturally take what ever they see from tv, to movies to games and act them out in the playground. hell i can see some parent turning to their neighour going little agrippa is so violent when hes playing.. oh i bet its something he saw in the colloseum

I got in fights all the time when I was 5. I didn't pick up a controller 'til I was about 7.

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FelixG:

Humans are naturally violent critters, it has very little to do with the "age we live in" crap.

The article was attempting to blame violence in kids on "age we live in" crap. I made my statement because I believe videogames to be a part of a larger issue in that regard, if that is the issue.

It may be because people are naturally violent, but that's getting into a much longer debate over the nature of man, nature vs. nurture, the role of society in shaping a man's personality, etc. I didn't bring all of that up because whether that is a cause, and, if so(and it probably is), to what extent, is part of a centuries-old debate I just didn't want to get into.

Mortai Gravesend:

This reminds me of the people who complain that we're making kids into wimps who can't handle violence like in the good old days.

I'm gonna say that we probably don't glorify violence much more than before.

I think the whole "thing" with that is that we do glorify violence more today, as we do really hype it up and revel in it, but we've also made it much cleaner.

Think of most of the video games, action movies or anime you've seen in the last few years. They probably had a lot of violence in them, but the protagonists never really seem all that bothered by it. They'll take bullet wounds and long gashes and leap through windows with only minor cuts. They'll clearly feel pain, but they won't do much more than grunt a little or lie down after a fight. Most of the hyped-up violence we see isn't real, and I'm willing to bet a lot of people aren't really used to the weight of real violence, even if they see violent things all the time.

DVS BSTrD:
These videogames are making our students un-conch-onable!

Like a conch shell? I don't get the reference.

Scars Unseen:

DVS BSTrD:
These videogames are making our students un-conch-onable!

Like a conch shell? I don't get the reference.

You don't know what film the picture is from do you?

Grey Carter:
The government blames the parents, the parents blame the teachers and the teachers blame ... violent video games that the kids shouldn't have in the first place.

So in other words they blame the parents for ignoring the rating system.

DVS BSTrD:

Scars Unseen:

DVS BSTrD:
These videogames are making our students un-conch-onable!

Like a conch shell? I don't get the reference.

You don't know what film the picture is from do you?

Nope. I don't watch many movies. The local theater is pretty awful, and by the time a movie comes out on Blu-Ray I've forgotten all about it in most cases.

Scars Unseen:

DVS BSTrD:

Scars Unseen:

Like a conch shell? I don't get the reference.

You don't know what film the picture is from do you?

Nope. I don't watch many movies. The local theater is pretty awful, and by the time a movie comes out on Blu-Ray I've forgotten all about it in most cases.

I'll give you a hint

Children play war games. That's a fact that's always been true. They also like to re-enact things that they see explaining the bullet time. It's not really any different from them running around playing "Cowboys and Indians" with their fingers shaped as guns going "bang your dead"

She's also going to claim that teachers have witnessed young pupils "acting out quite graphic scenes" and that games are responsible for an increase in "hitting, hurting and thumping."

I assume the vast majority of them have never played a video game, and if they have, it was a casual game and they don't remember it that much. This would logically put them into a position where they cannot claim that kids are reenacting scenes from things they have not experienced because they simply wouldn't know.

But silly me, logic doesn't apply to politics.

Grey Carter:
To find out why, you have to travel through the tremendous buck-passing conga line. The government blames the parents, the parents blame the teachers and the teachers blame - you guessed it - video games.

Quick, make a video game that blames the government for brainwashing children into vile fiends! Then the cycle shall be complete!

DVS BSTrD:

Scars Unseen:

DVS BSTrD:
You don't know what film the picture is from do you?

Nope. I don't watch many movies. The local theater is pretty awful, and by the time a movie comes out on Blu-Ray I've forgotten all about it in most cases.

I'll give you a hint

huh, I've never seen that title cover before and I've had to read that book at least three seperate times in all my schooling.

I always got the one with the bloody decapitated pig head on a spike

Edit: should probably post something OT... hmmm... I dunno, I grew up with mario and things weren't very violent when I went to school...

The government blames the parents, the parents blame the teachers and the teachers blame - you guessed it - video games.

See how Europeans follow the Logic train and blame down accordingly. In America, we start from the beginning and jump straight to the end.

/facepalm

on topic everyone needs a scapegoat, if all the fingers are already pointed at in the same direction, the Teachers can't very well point back at the parents! So as they must, point to everyone's favorite punching bag when children and violence are involved, M/18 rated games!

that damned rock music turning our children into immoral jerks!

shucks to your (asthmar) rating system which should prevent them fom getting these games in the first place.

It's not the games, or rather not the industry. All those violent games that are supposed to be inspiring this (as well as the film and tv) have age ratings that should advise the moronic parents not to let the kids play or watch them.

When I was in primary school they were blaming Power Rangers for causing play ground violence (which was at least a kids show).

The problem seems to be that there is still a mentality that "games are for kids" so that over indulgent parents ignore the age ratings and buy stuff for the little demons anyway.

I once pounced on a kid and attempted to beat him up because he took my Gameboy and threatened to delete my Pokemon save. We had a substitute teacher that day, heh. Fourth grade.

Good times. (Edit, might as well put how long ago that was, that'd be just over twelve years ago, late 2000 or early 2001, damn time flies...)

Pretty sure this is mostly a case of "boys will be boys". When I was in school WWE (or WWF as it was then known) was huge on TV and the boys would pretend to wrestle ALL THE TIME at school, often hurting each other in the process. Everyone quoted lines from Southpark or movies that were rated above their age. As far as I'm concerned this doesn't sound any different to normal. A boy will pretend to shoot his friends with a gun or have a ninja fight with them whether he's played video games or not ... I think it's in their DNA or something.

Do people really forget what childhood was like so easily? Do they look back with rose-tinted glasses to a time before video games and think school boys wore their little shorts with pride, smoothed their hair and respected their elders?

DVS BSTrD:

Scars Unseen:

DVS BSTrD:
These videogames are making our students un-conch-onable!

Like a conch shell? I don't get the reference.

You don't know what film the picture is from do you?

Ahhh NOW I get it. I didn't pick up the image at first, was too concentrated on the subject in the post. Great film man.

Right now I'm reading the Hunger Games trilogy, books intended for teenagers and young adults. So, kids are probably reading it too. And this is in FIRST PERSON. And it talks about KILLING other kids. That's fine. It's videogames we have to worry about.

The "Watching kids jump out of car windows in slow motion and pretent to have blood squirting" really gets me. First off, if the kids can jump in slow motion to begin with, that's freaking awesome. It must be a British secret they're keeping from us. Secondly, there are very few games I can think of that you jump out of cars in slow motion in or have blood squirting as a huge focus. That happens much, much more in movies.

....*headdesk* I was a councilor at an art camp for a few years. These kids where mostly home schooled. They played video games, but their parents respected the ESRB. Their parents paid attention disciplined them. And because of all that PARENTING they were not violent little turds. Don't get me wrong their was one or two that you wanted to strangle. But by and large they were well behaved kids who listened to us.

So the moral of the story is: If you don't want your kid to try to kill other kids, be a fucking parent. Don't just set them in front of the TV and expect them turn into perfectly formed adults. I guess a second moral is that public schools have devolved into fancy prisons. Only the guards care even less in schools.

captcha: took me 20 tries to get a non-ad.

We all know that games are causing schoolyard violence. It's just a fact of life.

Little Timmy likes CoD. Little Billy likes MW. You know they're going to fight over which is the better game...

Alternative headline; "Adolescent Behaviour Modeled on Violent Fiction Reveals Parental Neglect."

Doesn't quite roll off the tongue does it? Guess that's why we never see it on the front page - that and you can't criticize the only people buying your nonsense.

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