EA Wins Title of "Worst Company in America"

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This is probably due to fact that while EA may not be as harmfull as say an oil rig industry or a national bank...they have probably the WORST p.r that I've ever seen.

BP might be bad, but they at least pretend to care about their clients. EA on the other hand pretty much says "fuck you, we both know you're gonna pay us" (paraphrasing only slightly of course)

Don't blame me, I voted for BoA, 4 times.

To offset the people I know personally who were kicked out of houses they ended up with loans that were owned by BoA. It seems in some states a notice of eviction for not having homeowner's insurance on file with a notice date before the postmarked date on the letter is more evidence to the sheriff than actual receipts and statements of homeowner's insurance.

I think the article I read on Forbes said it best. If it weren't for this debate of Mass Effect 3, EA probably would have lost to Comcast, and Comcast would have lost to BoA.

Really? The worst? Worse than Zynga?

I beg of you, internet. Think about this choice:

Zynga VS EA.

Take a moment and REALLY think who is worse.

EA then releases a response which you can download for 2.99.

Oh and the reason EA loses money most years is because they refuse to learn from their mistakes, and hire competent people.

PR- Garbage
Marketing- Garbage
Managing which games get funding- Garbage

Kinguendo:

Stu35:

Kinguendo:
While I hate EA and it would be a much better world if EA was the worst company in America, sadly it isnt.

Oh and screw EA for their brush off of the fact that they just got voted the WORST and will just continue doing the exact same thing, seriously... screw those d-bags.

Why wouldn't they? They're still making money.

Companies like that are profit driven - the only way to get them to change is to take away their profits. We do this by not buying their products.

Because people who crave money are disgusting? That rampant consumerism is making very real peoples lives complete misery? That "Being fair" is a thing that exists and people can do?

I don't want to get snarky here but you are saying this on the forum of a site that would not exist without rampant consumerism.

dogstile:

Awexsome:
Sometimes I wonder why the gaming audience is seen as immature spiteful loudmouthed children. Then I quickly remember that it is.

Get the fuck over it people. I've bought every project 10$ thing for every game I've bought and encourage others to do the same to support the publishers and developers that incorporated it. U mad?

The quote was entirely right btw. Band of America and BP deserve it more. Oh they've won it before? Lol Valve's won the Escapist's march madness before and that sure doesn't seem to stop them.

Valve are nominated every year, the other companies weren't. Big difference.

What I can't understand is how people are assuming this is all based on ME3 and not from 10 years of EA hate.

We're assuming that because it's true.

The EA hate at it's natural levels wouldn't be enough on its own for people to vote on this to spite them. Hence why in those 10 years they haven't gotten it. The ME3 rage is the catalyst (lol) that makes people raging obsession with spiting them give them less quarter than those who crashed the world economy. Seriously.

I think BP should get a Lifetime Achievement Poo based solely on the fact that they played a major role, along with the British and U.S. governments, in the decades of bullshit that resulted in Iran being taken over by the draconian, vehemently anti-West theocracy that rules to this day. If World War III ever breaks out, you can bet that it will be a direct result of the U.S., Russia and our respective allies reaping what we sowed before, during and since the Cold War. Each successive generation pays for the actions of their forebears.

Kinguendo:

Stu35:

Kinguendo:
While I hate EA and it would be a much better world if EA was the worst company in America, sadly it isnt.

Oh and screw EA for their brush off of the fact that they just got voted the WORST and will just continue doing the exact same thing, seriously... screw those d-bags.

Why wouldn't they? They're still making money.

Companies like that are profit driven - the only way to get them to change is to take away their profits. We do this by not buying their products.

Because people who crave money are disgusting? That rampant consumerism is making very real peoples lives complete misery? That "Being fair" is a thing that exists and people can do?

Sure... thats, kinda an answer to a rhetorical question, although it's more a rant about your own beef with the ins and outs of capitalism, but sure...

So, Electronic Arts won? Ok, they're kinda bad, but not this horrid. Personally, I find Activision, GameStop and Fox News a whole lot worse, but, that's just me.

I disagree with this result, I mean they aren't too far off, but Bank of America, Newscorp, and Goldman-Sachs are in a completely different league.

That said, maybe this will start talk about the dissolution of the conglomerations. EA/Activision have Producers and advertising budgets, but do none of the work on the games except to add archaic and ineffective DRM, and poorly handled DLC policies. We're in an age where most PC Gamers, and perhaps with the next generation of consoles most console gamers, have access to Digital Distribution, and pre-orders for big name titles can outsell actual releases. We don't need massive, useless corporate conglomerates.

damn, if you hate EA vote with your Wallet and dont buy theyr products not with a mouse click. You know what that mean to them? Simply that you care about theyr products...

Well "sister" I think EA kind of explained it themselves. They have 300 million customers and the thing is that while EA's comeback implies they are happy customers, that's hardly the case. Given that most of the people buying video games are on the internet (especially with always-on DRM) it's a company many voters are going to be familiar with. Not to mention that EA is bringing their garbage into the home, where most of the other contenders are bad, but in a less direct way. The way how EA's practices with their DLC, and nickel and diming consumers are spreading all through the digital world, and even outside of video games, makes them at least indirectly responsible for the hidden fees and microtransactions being attached to everything.

EA has also been getting worse year after year, where things like Bank Of America or Wal*Mart kind of hit a plateau of suck and then just kind of stayed there, where EA has been puffing along like the little engine that could, figuring "yeah, this sucks for the consumers and makes us money, but we can just push a little more....". Well congrats to EA, dogged persistance has allowed them to finally surpass all the other crappy businesses out there. The ME3 ending (noting the triple color scheme) is not only sucktastic on a literally international level, but things like "Origin", day #1 DLC, and similar things have all just added up to this moment.

Vibhor:

CaptOfSerenity:
Goddamnit, Haliburton, Blackwater, any number of Private Military Groups should have gotten this.

EA IS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME COMPANY! You people need to get out of your shells and realize gaming is not the center of the damn world. Neither are gaming companies.

This is a rather weird response to any poll whatsoever.
People have free will and such can vote any company they dislike. There is no such thing as objective opinion so you are just raging because the company of your preference did not win. That is rather unreasonable.

Also, I do not see the relevance of EA being a video game company. On one side of these forums people are arguing that video games are art and the product should not be tampered by consumers and on the other we have people like you saying that video games industry is not important. Bad business practices are stay bad no matter wherever you go. In fact, common consumer would probably not know anything about any PMC for that matter.

I'm gonna give you these: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.357146-Entitlement?page=4#14152304
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.357146-Entitlement#14144060
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.357146-Entitlement?page=5#14152594

And then this:

I never said games aren't art in that post. I expressed outrage at a company that produces art and entertainment (video games) was voted the worst company in the world when there are other companies that have killed and fucked people out of their homes.

EA are just bullies.

Look at the big picture, here. EA?

or Bank of America, JP Morgan, AIG, Blackwater?

And the fact that most consumers don't know the bullshit these companies pull is indicative of gross ignorance in this country.

Now, excuse me, as I type hot-n-ready pizza in the catcha.

Kinguendo:

ReiverCorrupter:
Preface: I'm not a fan of EA and I do not defend their shady business practices.

Now, with that out of the way, I'd like to give my own (by no means exhaustive) summary of this thread.

I'll start with the "no"s...

Kinguendo:
While I hate EA and it would be a much better world if EA was the worst company in America, sadly it isnt.

No. To you and anyone who thinks (without sarcasm) that EA is actually the worst company in America. (If you were being sarcastic then feel free to ignore me.)

If you read my comment you will see that I never said EA was the worst... I said if it were the worst, then the world would be a better place but it isnt and there are other companies doing worse things that just screwing over their customers.

Whoops, I could have sworn that you said "it would be a much better world if EA was_n't_ the worst company in America but sadly it _is_". My bad, must have misread you. Though it doesn't really change my overall point and really just puts us in agreement.

Walmart's the devil

I've never had a problem with EA myself. That's probably because I don't pay attention to the developers and publishers of games. I pay attention to the game.

You kids are ridiculous.

-Samurai-:
I've never had a problem with EA myself. That's probably because I don't pay attention to the developers and publishers of games. I pay attention to the game.

You kids are ridiculous.

And you're a fool. You're right, the games aren't made by EA (which is like defending a company that doesn't make sure its factory meets safety standards because the Execs don't work there), but EA does make a lot of the policy decisions. The archaic and ineffective DRM is the idea of EA, the poor DLC practices, the online passes, etc... those are all EA.

As I said above I think we need to move away from the massive conglomerates; while they aren't always evil, the few additions they make always make the game worse, and they really aren't necessary anymore.

Of course I have to add to this EA is by no means the worst company in America. It's not even a heavy weight.

Faerillis:

-Samurai-:
I've never had a problem with EA myself. That's probably because I don't pay attention to the developers and publishers of games. I pay attention to the game.

You kids are ridiculous.

And you're a fool. You're right, the games aren't made by EA (which is like defending a company that doesn't make sure its factory meets safety standards because the Execs don't work there), but EA does make a lot of the policy decisions. The archaic and ineffective DRM is the idea of EA, the poor DLC practices, the online passes, etc... those are all EA.

As I said above I think we need to move away from the massive conglomerates; while they aren't always evil, the few additions they make always make the game worse, and they really aren't necessary anymore.

Of course I have to add to this EA is by no means the worst company in America. It's not even a heavy weight.

And if none of the above bothers you?

Seriously, online passes? It takes 45 seconds to enter. The last game I bought from EA was BF3, where they gave me the map pack for free.

I think I'll rephrase what someone else said in another thread.

They may be greedy, but they're hardly evil. They just want to get paid. And I like the work their developers do, so I have no issue paying them. But by all means, continue soapboxing for the cause of hating X and liking Y better. I'll be over here actually enjoying the medium.

CaptOfSerenity:
I'm gonna give you these: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.357146-Entitlement?page=4#14152304
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.357146-Entitlement#14144060
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.357146-Entitlement?page=5#14152594

And then this:

I never said games aren't art in that post. I expressed outrage at a company that produces art and entertainment (video games) was voted the worst company in the world when there are other companies that have killed and fucked people out of their homes.

EA are just bullies.

Look at the big picture, here. EA?

or Bank of America, JP Morgan, AIG, Blackwater?

And the fact that most consumers don't know the bullshit these companies pull is indicative of gross ignorance in this country.

Now, excuse me, as I type hot-n-ready pizza in the catcha.

I am not gonna click on those threads because the word entitlement rubs me off in a wrong way.
While yes your point it rather true that EA is not the worst of the lot but they most certainly are the most that are affected by the poll. Case in hand, their reaction to the whole scenario. They have gone full Damage control mode. If Bank of America would have won(like it did for the previous few years) no one would have been affected. They simply don't care about these little polls because most of their customers don't come from the internet. Ask yourself, who should win? The person who is actually affected by the victory or the person who doesn't even care about the competition in the first place.

Part of the reason for the victory of EA was the fact that the poll wasn't region locked. If it was locked to America then I am sure some other company would have "won".

Also, note this : Its the choice of majority that decides the victor. You say EA is not the worst company but the majority says otherwise. I don't mean that majority is always right but you cannot just throw a hissy fit when the majority doesn't like your opinion.

So will this make EA think twice and change there ways or will they come on with a thank you speech.

Aeonknight:

Faerillis:

-Samurai-:
I've never had a problem with EA myself. That's probably because I don't pay attention to the developers and publishers of games. I pay attention to the game.

You kids are ridiculous.

And you're a fool. You're right, the games aren't made by EA (which is like defending a company that doesn't make sure its factory meets safety standards because the Execs don't work there), but EA does make a lot of the policy decisions. The archaic and ineffective DRM is the idea of EA, the poor DLC practices, the online passes, etc... those are all EA.

As I said above I think we need to move away from the massive conglomerates; while they aren't always evil, the few additions they make always make the game worse, and they really aren't necessary anymore.

Of course I have to add to this EA is by no means the worst company in America. It's not even a heavy weight.

And if none of the above bothers you?

Seriously, online passes? It takes 45 seconds to enter. The last game I bought from EA was BF3, where they gave me the map pack for free.

I think I'll rephrase what someone else said in another thread.

They may be greedy, but they're hardly evil. They just want to get paid. And I like the work their developers do, so I have no issue paying them. But by all means, continue soapboxing for the cause of hating X and liking Y better. I'll be over here actually enjoying the medium.

Faerillis:

While they aren't always evil...

Yeah, that along side stating that EA isn't even in the same league of bad as a number of companies, I must've been calling them evil.

Online Passes which are designed to impede the sale of used games and innately devalue my game if I choose to sell it? And that Map Pack was probably on the disc - while this isn't always true it's hardly uncommon, ie Kingdoms of Amalur, where the Online Pass content was clearly ripped out of the game.

DLC on the other hand can be poorly or well, though I am normally pro-DLC; those who enjoy the game get more content, those who don't enjoy the game can do whatever they want.

DRM is nothing but bugly, and has no place in games.

So the problem is that they make amazing games, and people are expected to pay for additional content?

A spectacular example of the inverse law of averages: The more people you have angry about a topic, the lower their total intelligence is.

Vibhor:

CaptOfSerenity:
I'm gonna give you these: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.357146-Entitlement?page=4#14152304
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.357146-Entitlement#14144060
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.357146-Entitlement?page=5#14152594

And then this:

I never said games aren't art in that post. I expressed outrage at a company that produces art and entertainment (video games) was voted the worst company in the world when there are other companies that have killed and fucked people out of their homes.

EA are just bullies.

Look at the big picture, here. EA?

or Bank of America, JP Morgan, AIG, Blackwater?

And the fact that most consumers don't know the bullshit these companies pull is indicative of gross ignorance in this country.

Now, excuse me, as I type hot-n-ready pizza in the catcha.

I am not gonna click on those threads because the word entitlement rubs me off in a wrong way.
While yes your point it rather true that EA is not the worst of the lot but they most certainly are the most that are affected by the poll. Case in hand, their reaction to the whole scenario. They have gone full Damage control mode. If Bank of America would have won(like it did for the previous few years) no one would have been affected. They simply don't care about these little polls because most of their customers don't come from the internet. Ask yourself, who should win? The person who is actually affected by the victory or the person who doesn't even care about the competition in the first place.

Part of the reason for the victory of EA was the fact that the poll wasn't region locked. If it was locked to America then I am sure some other company would have "won".

Also, note this : Its the choice of majority that decides the victor. You say EA is not the worst company but the majority says otherwise. I don't mean that majority is always right but you cannot just throw a hissy fit when the majority doesn't like your opinion.

Damn, the fallacies in your argument rub ME the wrong way.

First off, read what I wrote through those links, because you lack context in terms of knowing my stance on certain things that matter.

Who should win is the company that is the worst, objectively. And deception and murder are pretty fucking bad.

And the majority isn't necessarily right. Just because the majority voted one way doesn't mean they're right.

"The majority says otherwise." So, I should shut up because the majority has a different, emotionally-charged opinion of EA? You fucking kidding me?

CaptOfSerenity:
Damn, the fallacies in your argument rub ME the wrong way.

First off, read what I wrote through those links, because you lack context in terms of knowing my stance on certain things that matter.

Who should win is the company that is the worst, objectively. And deception and murder are pretty fucking bad.

Fallacies? Where?

Also, how does murder fits into all this? If we are talking about a PMC, isn't murder part of the job? If you are saying they should not do their job or that their job is bad then fine but that doesn't mean they treat their consumers like shit. Also, deception goes both ways. So both things are quite irrelevant in the current discussion.

CaptOfSerenity:
And the majority isn't necessarily right. Just because the majority voted one way doesn't mean they're right.

"The majority says otherwise." So, I should shut up because the majority has a different, emotionally-charged opinion of EA? You fucking kidding me?

Are you just writing what I said?
There is no objectivity in saying XYZ is worst company. Everyone votes based on their personal opinion. All this jazz about other company being evil would have made sense before the poll if you were campaigning against another company but now its all just noise.

idarkphoenixi:

Dfskelleton:
I hope this wasn't SOLELY because of the goofy Mass Effect 3 thing.
I wouldn't have given it a second thought if it hadn't been "Which color of poo would you like?" part.

EA has been a hated company for many, many years. This Mass Effect issue is just more fuel for the flamebait.

Hell, I'm not arguing with you. I'm simply hoping that it was just a contributing factor, not the only factor.

Gotta love their reaction, actually.It's very true. If there games simply were not good,they simply would not sell.
And the end of the article seemed a bit off, the 'holding back content so they can charge for it later'. Isn't the Mass Effect Fix going to be free?

thepyrethatburns:

And, yet, in this case, it's a very accurate statement.

Still, it's nice to have something to point to and say "Yeah, this is pretty much indicative of the priorities that people in first world countries have."

Phuctifyno:

When's the last time a soldier gave his life for shitty propaganda, or an oil spill endangered thousands of lives, or a kid stepped on a land mine because of a video game company?

I'm gonna side with EA on this one...

Everyone, myself included, is wrong for even paying attention to this.

Perhaps I should have only included the intended statement like I was going to originally.

I don't disagree with EA that them getting the award is a joke in comparison to more real life issues, but my point was entirely on EA's "We made lot's of money so we can't ever be wrong" stance on everything.

I was not siding with the argument that they deserve the award at all.

mjcabooseblu:
So the problem is that they make amazing games, and people are expected to pay for additional content?

A spectacular example of the inverse law of averages: The more people you have angry about a topic, the lower their total intelligence is.

That's not the only reason they are hated, maybe you should actually read the thread before you go on about other peoples intelligence.

-Samurai-:
I've never had a problem with EA myself. That's probably because I don't pay attention to the developers and publishers of games. I pay attention to the game.

You kids are ridiculous.

Just wait till that game you're paying attention to hits a bug, or you find you can't download DLC you purchased*, and you have to deal with their customer service.

Just wait.

*Happened to me, EA's official customer service response was basically, "You're SOL, sorry you wasted your money, but we're keeping it."

DeathQuaker:

-Samurai-:
I've never had a problem with EA myself. That's probably because I don't pay attention to the developers and publishers of games. I pay attention to the game.

You kids are ridiculous.

Just wait till that game you're paying attention to hits a bug, or you find you can't download DLC you purchased*, and you have to deal with their customer service.

Just wait.

*Happened to me, EA's official customer service response was basically, "You're SOL, sorry you wasted your money, but we're keeping it."

I did have to call EA customer service once for a Rock Band 2 DLC problem. The guy was extremely helpful and totally professional. He talked me through each step and stuck around while my game restarted to make sure it worked. Probably some of the best customer service I've ever had. I took their survey afterwards and gave him great marks.

I'm not surprised EA won this title, and not just because of the ME3 debacle. Between that and the issues the marketing department had with the "Sin to Win" and "You parents will hate this" ads that they did (as these guys talked about), it seems that EA is currently being run by what I can only describe as the most phenominal idiots in business ever created, second only to the pointy haired kind in Dilbert.

Huh...actually, if the award for Worst Company in America came with a copy of what these guys said, maybe they'd get SOME kind of hint?

Vibhor:

CaptOfSerenity:
Damn, the fallacies in your argument rub ME the wrong way.

First off, read what I wrote through those links, because you lack context in terms of knowing my stance on certain things that matter.

Who should win is the company that is the worst, objectively. And deception and murder are pretty fucking bad.

Fallacies? Where?

Also, how does murder fits into all this? If we are talking about a PMC, isn't murder part of the job? If you are saying they should not do their job or that their job is bad then fine but that doesn't mean they treat their consumers like shit. Also, deception goes both ways. So both things are quite irrelevant in the current discussion.

CaptOfSerenity:
And the majority isn't necessarily right. Just because the majority voted one way doesn't mean they're right. pik
"The majority says otherwise." So, I should shut up because the majority has a different, emotionally-charged opinion of EA? You fucking kidding me?

Are you just writing what I said?
There is no objectivity in saying XYZ is worst company. Everyone votes based on their personal opinion. All this jazz about other company being evil would have made sense before the poll if you were campaigning against another company but now its all just noise.

Fallacies?
Your appeal to popular vote to back up your argument.
Deflecting the argument with your region-lock argument that is irrelevant. (we're talking worst company in America).
Your justification of murder. You say: "If you are saying they should not do their job or that their job is bad then fine but that doesn't mean they treat their consumers like shit," in regards to PMCs. They're still textbook "evil." They commit murder; just because it's their job doesn't mean it should be excused. As for the way they treat their customers: you really think what PMCs do outweighs what EA does to the industry if PMCs treat their customers (governments) nice? That's what your words say.

You people take internet polls too seriously.

Not the worst company, I think.

But they're certainly pretty bad. And yet so many people seem to insist on buying their games.

Oh crud, I have a copy of Alice: Madness Returns.

Fudge.

That's absolutely fucking stupid. This says virtually nothing about EA and a lot about the complete lack of perspective of the voters. I'm sure the poll results would have been different had the poll been not online.

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