FemShep's Voice Actress Talks Mass Effect 3 Ending

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Zen Toombs:

Scars Unseen:

Zen Toombs:

And you "150% missed the point" of his quote. Yeah, Martyrdrebel is trying to be a martyr and is raging moren' a bit too hard at what she said.

However, his point was that Hale, like several others, said that a big part of this is people not wanting to let go of Mass Effect. For many, the issue is that the ending is a huge shift in tone and style, contradicts the lore of the series on several points, and violates several of the basic rules of storytelling for no good reason.

Now that I've talked about that, I want to end on this note: Jennifer Hale is awesome and I want to have her babies.

And yet she has a point. There are plenty of games out there that have terrible endings. Most of them, in fact. So why is it this game that people are up in arms about. If I was to go into a Retake Mass Effect thread and tell people that they should just let it go, I doubt that many people would respond with "oh I already have. Seriously, it's all water under the bridge. I just like to complain on the internet." People are protesting the ending precisely because there is something special about Mass Effect that just won't let them move on. That may not be what people are protesting about, but to nerdrage at someone who has nothing to do with the reason you're upset is, IMO, childish and uncalled for. Especially when she makes a good point.

Okay, first things first. We agree that Martyred Rebel was nerdrageing, and went about a thousand steps too far. He was acting like a huge jerk, and he shouldn't have spoken as he did. Just wanted to make that clear.

I also want to make it clear that there are many people who are in the "Retake Mass Effect" movement who are being jerks and going way too far.

Now that we've gotten that all cleared up....

It has been a regular theme for others to misinterpret why people are upset about Mass Effect's ending. It appears that Jennifer Hale is one of them - the anger is not about "Shepard's story coming to an end. It also appears that you misunderstand why the ending of Mass Effect has had this impact - after years of quality writing by Bioware in this game, after building up all this lore, after telling us that the decisions our almost fully customizable Shepards made would be important, after telling us that "it's not ... like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C", they spit in our face and turn against all of that at the last minute. They only fulfilled their promises in the most rules-layerish fashion, if they fulfilled their promises at all.

But I'm getting a bit sidetracked - back on target. EDIT: MISREAD POST, DISREGARD

Jennifer Hale is not helping. She isn't a monster, and I greatly appreciate her support. But people misunderstanding "Retake Mass Effect" is a large issue, and her statement isn't helping with that. It is not wrong to point out what she has said, and how she is incorrect in that regard.

Once again though, Martyr was acting like a huge jerk.

I guess my point is that, unlike the developers, the reviewers, and the pundits, Jennifer Hale has no obligation to dig deeper and try to understand the Retake Mass Effect movement. Her job was to speak into a microphone, and she is awesome in that she appears to have gone beyond that and expressed genuine attachment to the series. She just seems to be happy that other people got into the games enough to care. And I see nothing wrong with that.

Scars Unseen:

Zen Toombs:

I guess my point is that, unlike the developers, the reviewers, and the pundits, Jennifer Hale has no obligation to dig deeper and try to understand the Retake Mass Effect movement. Her job was to speak into a microphone, and she is awesome in that she appears to have gone beyond that and expressed genuine attachment to the series. She just seems to be happy that other people got into the games enough to care. And I see nothing wrong with that.

Point taken.

Vrach:
Well first off, they might not be working on it yet. Hell, they haven't even fixed the import bug yet.

Second, they don't really need Hale to "fix" the ending. They're not gonna make a whole new ending (they're not that fucking stupid, or one can only hope), they'll just throw in some more exposition to fill the plot holes - which they can do without Shepard ever opening her mouth.

Ha, you think they're gonna fix the import bug? Silly Vrach....

Also, unless the "fixing ending" is purely a "DA:O style text crawl showing what happens to everyone after the end" then they would need Shep to speak, as every time Shep asks a question s/he has a line of dialogue to ask that question. In this case, Shep would be asking the Reaper King.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/04/05/mass-effect-3-extended-cut-dlc-free-this-summer-offers-furth/
Well this just confirms Ending DLC.

Which also leads to one of three scenarios
1) She was just not telling the truth.
2) She was held under NDA
or
3) She recorded the lines while the game was still in development so she wasn't aware that it was "post-launch ending DLC". Which also means Bioware was already working on this ending but didn't feel like delaying the game a little to include it. They then play it off as a way of "showing how they care about their fans opinions" when this finally comes out. AKA: They knew they had a shit ending, and they didn't care to try and defend themselves because from the start they decided to use it as a way to regain fan trust.

I'm leaning on Scenario 3 personally.

Jennifer Hale is a beast of a voice actress. Pretty lady too.

Elmoth:

I already got enough closure in pre-ending dialogue with the characters of the series. I don't really need to see exactly what troubles the characters of the series go trough after/during the apocalyptic ending.

What I wanted, was an ending that is not completely balls to the walls retarded!

There are a couple of blog/articles that show how that is just terrible writing.

cursedseishi:
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/04/05/mass-effect-3-extended-cut-dlc-free-this-summer-offers-furth/
Well this just confirms Ending DLC.

Which also leads to one of three scenarios
1) She was just not telling the truth.
2) She was held under NDA
or
3) She recorded the lines while the game was still in development so she wasn't aware that it was "post-launch ending DLC". Which also means Bioware was already working on this ending but didn't feel like delaying the game a little to include it. They then play it off as a way of "showing how they care about their fans opinions" when this finally comes out. AKA: They knew they had a shit ending, and they didn't care to try and defend themselves because from the start they decided to use it as a way to regain fan trust.

I'm leaning on Scenario 3 personally.

.. of there's a tinfoil hat-less Scenario 4; Jennifer Hale is telling the truth and both her and Mark Meer haven't been invited back to record new dialogue because Bioware either isn't at the stage where they're needed yet or they simply aren't needed at all. After all, they do use the term "epilogue", so assuming that everything being added is post Shepard's death isn't that much of a stretch.

Conspiracy time:

I think they initially did plan on "closure dlc" but decided not to since it would confirm what all of us assumed the moment we saw the current ending. Now they need to do something else that nobody (or at least most people) didn't expect.

Vanguard1219:

cursedseishi:
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/04/05/mass-effect-3-extended-cut-dlc-free-this-summer-offers-furth/
Well this just confirms Ending DLC.

Which also leads to one of three scenarios
1) She was just not telling the truth.
2) She was held under NDA
or
3) She recorded the lines while the game was still in development so she wasn't aware that it was "post-launch ending DLC". Which also means Bioware was already working on this ending but didn't feel like delaying the game a little to include it. They then play it off as a way of "showing how they care about their fans opinions" when this finally comes out. AKA: They knew they had a shit ending, and they didn't care to try and defend themselves because from the start they decided to use it as a way to regain fan trust.

I'm leaning on Scenario 3 personally.

.. of there's a tinfoil hat-less Scenario 4; Jennifer Hale is telling the truth and both her and Mark Meer haven't been invited back to record new dialogue because Bioware either isn't at the stage where they're needed yet or they simply aren't needed at all. After all, they do use the term "epilogue", so assuming that everything being added is post Shepard's death isn't that much of a stretch.

True! But come on... that is just boring!

X10Unit1:

Elmoth:

I already got enough closure in pre-ending dialogue with the characters of the series. I don't really need to see exactly what troubles the characters of the series go trough after/during the apocalyptic ending.

What I wanted, was an ending that is not completely balls to the walls retarded!

There are a couple of blog/articles that show how that is just terrible writing.

I know, I've read a few of them. But even a non-writer can figure out that introducing a new character that overrules most of the plot in the last 10 minutes is a fucking stupid idea.

"FemShep's Voice Actress"? There're still people who don't know Jennifer Hale?

I haven't heard anyone asking for an ending that would satisfy "all" of Mass Effect fans. That is a straw man argument.

Hale is awesome in every way I could imagine. Yet, somehow that picture.. it makes me resist judging how she's expressing that look- *shivers*. She's still beautiful overall so don't get me wrong but.. creepy. Well now that's out of the way-

OT: If she's willing to come back, Bioware really should take this opportunity to use her voice again. That, and they should take a crap load of time making this new DLC ending, because rushing it shall give us yet another ending like the original one.. and most of us don't want that to be honest.

well... it's no surprise that there's no voice work for Shepard in the epilogue DLC, due to Shepard being dead in most endings, and on the brink of death in one possible ending.

At least she still has the job voicing the female trooper in Star Wars The Old Republic. She can grow attached to that interchangeable character instead!

Femsheps voice actor sucks.
But if we aren't getting a new ending, I'm going to kill someone.

CAPTCHA- Atomic Bomb
Good idea!

I really like Hale, but she knows less than anybody who has ever talked about this subject.

Something odd about this... even if they don't plan to do anything serious for the ending fix, there is no way in hell they could do any real DLC missions without someone voicing Shepard (though they could always give it to someone else). That sort of DLC is pretty much guaranteed unless you would have us believe that the ending shit actually made them can any possible DLC missions completely.

This is about the kind of opinion I'd expect someone who was invested in the project to have. Disappointed, but flattered that people care as much as they do.

Saviordd1:
Well...there go my hopes and dreams of the series getting fixed.

Time to never buy from bioware again.

Sure... keep telling yourself that, then enjoy your day 1 purchase of Mass Effect 4. When it happens, remember that you were told it would and stop saying ridiculous things.

Korten12:
No offense, but is it just me or is that picture really really creepy?

Also this sucks. D:

No, it is. The cameraman must've been on crack or something when he took that picture.

this article was 100% useless.

Wow...you guys REALLY thought they'd bring back their voice cast for a free piece of content? You REALLY thought it's not just going to be a 25 second clip followed by a text crawl??? It's absolutely insane how much ignorance there is floating around about how expensive this shit is to make.

Well... i dont, but in all seriousness, the people probably have her under something so she doesnt talk about if theyre redoing the ending.

and really its probably better that theres not a sequel. (I think) The next Halo game is going to be terrible by comparison just cause the series story doesnt need extended. Its like the soul cal V game out, it shouldnt have been made or at least not have included the old characters and their stories. No matter how bioware writes this ending (whether it be as is or makes a new one) it shouldnt leave open any room for a new shepard story because theres no way youre going to be able to fill it out through a fourth whole game.

When I first played Mass Effect, I made a male character, even though I'm prone to making female ones just to see if it makes any genderrole difference in the game. While Mark Meer has improved substantially, I did not like his voice acting.

I began over about a third into the game, for various reasons, and made a femshep instead. I was instantly hooked to her voice. Jennifer Hale is Shepard, Shepard is a woman and I am damn proud of her(Shepards) story.

If there would ever be a movie(god forbid, but since this is pure "what-if", I'd fantasize it'd be good), it should be a woman playing her and Jennifer Hale would look the part. I know she does voice-acting primarily, but one could always dream...

Firstly, before I say anything, I found the ending to be rather self-explanatory. Anyone thinking the reapers made the citadel I think is a little dumb. Of course a race of aliens made the reapers. They were probably the FIRST reaper, making them self in to it. But they would have also made the relays and everything else. Including the citadel. TBH the other ending that was supposedly also being considered sound more like Space Magic than the one that is there.

It explains where the reapers came from and why they were doing it. It also explains the Crucible. As the Prothian said (if you got the DLC edition), they did not start the Crucible. So, it is also possible that the race that made the citadel also created the first part of the crucible as a way of giving, in time, the races that where to come a way out at some point.

As for the free DLC, let's remember that they actually cut some content from the ending (read it in an interview) so it is VERY possible that all there doing with the free DLC is re-adding it, in which case, any voice acting would have already been done.

To finish, I would like to point out that the amount of effort that has been put in to this, when it comes down to it, STUPIED idea that, as a player, you have some sort of right to have the ending changed. YOU DON'T. Video games, like ANY media or art, are always subject to the personal opinions of the consumer/viewer, so really, it's your own felt the ending is crap because you have the opinion that it is crap. Change your opinion, problem solved. :P

Zen Toombs:

Vrach:
Well first off, they might not be working on it yet. Hell, they haven't even fixed the import bug yet.

Second, they don't really need Hale to "fix" the ending. They're not gonna make a whole new ending (they're not that fucking stupid, or one can only hope), they'll just throw in some more exposition to fill the plot holes - which they can do without Shepard ever opening her mouth.

Ha, you think they're gonna fix the import bug? Silly Vrach....

Also, unless the "fixing ending" is purely a "DA:O style text crawl showing what happens to everyone after the end" then they would need Shep to speak, as every time Shep asks a question s/he has a line of dialogue to ask that question. In this case, Shep would be asking the Reaper King.

Well seeing as they'll put out a patch sooner or later and the import bug will be fixed in the next patch (they've explicitly stated as much), I'm just putting 2 and 2 together.

As to the second point, for one, Shepard has a lot less dialogue in ME3. Like, a ridiculously smaller amount, there's as much option for you to choose your lines as there is in ME2's opening scene. And they have loads of Hale's footage, likely even some they didn't use in ME3 final version, you can take any innocuous question and tack on a pile of exposition in the Star Child's answer easily.

Vrach:

Zen Toombs:

Vrach:
Well first off, they might not be working on it yet. Hell, they haven't even fixed the import bug yet.

Second, they don't really need Hale to "fix" the ending. They're not gonna make a whole new ending (they're not that fucking stupid, or one can only hope), they'll just throw in some more exposition to fill the plot holes - which they can do without Shepard ever opening her mouth.

Ha, you think they're gonna fix the import bug? Silly Vrach....

Also, unless the "fixing ending" is purely a "DA:O style text crawl showing what happens to everyone after the end" then they would need Shep to speak, as every time Shep asks a question s/he has a line of dialogue to ask that question. In this case, Shep would be asking the Reaper King.

Well seeing as they'll put out a patch sooner or later and the import bug will be fixed in the next patch (they've explicitly stated as much), I'm just putting 2 and 2 together.

As to the second point, for one, Shepard has a lot less dialogue in ME3. Like, a ridiculously smaller amount, there's as much option for you to choose your lines as there is in ME2's opening scene. And they have loads of Hale's footage, likely even some they didn't use in ME3 final version, you can take any innocuous question and tack on a pile of exposition in the Star Child's answer easily.

True true on the second.

As for the patch thing - I believe what you're saying and retract my dismissal of the glitch. However, I'd like to ask for a source if you can manage.

Third - nice talkin to ya. You've been very civil. :)

Mister Linton:

Saviordd1:
Well...there go my hopes and dreams of the series getting fixed.

Time to never buy from bioware again.

Sure... keep telling yourself that, then enjoy your day 1 purchase of Mass Effect 4. When it happens, remember that you were told it would and stop saying ridiculous things.

Absolutely, because I'm every weak willed biodrone on the bioware social network.

Think before you speak out of your ass on ideas and people you don't understand.

Zen Toombs:

Vrach:

Zen Toombs:

Ha, you think they're gonna fix the import bug? Silly Vrach....

Also, unless the "fixing ending" is purely a "DA:O style text crawl showing what happens to everyone after the end" then they would need Shep to speak, as every time Shep asks a question s/he has a line of dialogue to ask that question. In this case, Shep would be asking the Reaper King.

Well seeing as they'll put out a patch sooner or later and the import bug will be fixed in the next patch (they've explicitly stated as much), I'm just putting 2 and 2 together.

As to the second point, for one, Shepard has a lot less dialogue in ME3. Like, a ridiculously smaller amount, there's as much option for you to choose your lines as there is in ME2's opening scene. And they have loads of Hale's footage, likely even some they didn't use in ME3 final version, you can take any innocuous question and tack on a pile of exposition in the Star Child's answer easily.

True true on the second.

As for the patch thing - I believe what you're saying and retract my dismissal of the glitch. However, I'd like to ask for a source if you can manage.

Third - nice talkin to ya. You've been very civil. :)

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9661093

We have fixed the issue of faces not correctly importing into Mass Effect 3. It will be included as part of the next Mass Effect 3 patch.

And uhm... same? :P

Sotanaht:
Something odd about this... even if they don't plan to do anything serious for the ending fix, there is no way in hell they could do any real DLC missions without someone voicing Shepard (though they could always give it to someone else). That sort of DLC is pretty much guaranteed unless you would have us believe that the ending shit actually made them can any possible DLC missions completely.

That's my issue here, as well. The ending aside, weren't they going to do DLC like they did with ME2? So either she's out of the loop, she's lying, the powers that be decided that DLC wasn't going to happen, or she recorded a lot more bits of dialogue than were presented in the game in preparation for DLC projects.

My head hurts.

- Joker : ...And i assure you that Shepard saved the galaxy even it doesn't look like that.
BIG NEON : THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT'S RIGHT PEOPLE, YOU ARE VICTORIOUS !
Now go, buy our new game, Effective Mass, this time with 40x more DLCs and less interaction.
Introducing : romance option with extreme BDSM.
- THE END -

That's how i picture new "extended" ending.

Stalydan:

Hevva:

Richardplex:
Escapist staff members, no matter how often I see that picture nor how many candles I put in at the shrine I have of Jennifer Hale, that picture is not going to become any less terrifying. Please stop posting it.

It appears you're not alone in your fear. I actually think it's a nice photo, in its own way. She looks like she's about to voice-act the bejesus out of something in style.

...well, that or I'm just blinded by how gorgeous her haircut is.

I think she looks like Sarah Connor about to attack one of the orderlies from the second Terminator.

Yes! Definitely seeing Sarah Connor in that picture!

Ah, the 'head in the sand" technique. Good choice, Hale.

I really hope she gets called back to make the "the actual ending, the one we promised and people got so rageaholic over they filed a lawsuit with the FTC claiming false advertising" ending.

I always expected this post ending thing to focus on the other characters anyway. As far as I'm concerned, Shepard is dead.

Hahah sucks to be a guy who played FemShep . . . . after seeing the face behind the voice i find nothing attractive about the femshep anymore :D And one more reason to never play female cahracters unless forced to

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