Norwegian Mass Murderer Defends Gaming Habits

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Norwegian Mass Murderer Defends Gaming Habits

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Anders Breivik denies prosecutor's claims he was a friendless loner.

On trial for killing 77 people in July of last year in one of the worst acts of mass murder ever committed, Anders Breivik recently refuted claims from a prosecutor that he was a financially bankrupt loser who spent years playing video games while living in his mother's home.

Before committing the attacks that claimed the lives several dozen people, most of whom were teenagers attending a summer camp on the Norwegian island of Utoya, Breivik said he moved back in with his mother in late 2006 to save money after an investment setback. He then spent the next year playing World of Warcraft, sometimes for up to 16 hours a day.

Furthermore, Breivik claimed he also moved back home to have more time for writing his manifesto, a 1,500 page collection of hate-filled rambles against multiculturalism in Europe and Islam, and that his supposed game addiction was just a cover for his other activities. But when questioned about his gaming hobbies, Breivik asserted that WoW held no influence over his plans for the July attack.

"I know it is important to you and the media that I played this for a year," Breivik told the court about his time playing World of Warcraft. "But it has nothing to do with July 22. It is not a world you are engulfed by. It is quite simply a hobby."

Breivik later stated said he spent several months in 2010 extensively playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, claiming that he used the first person shooter to help hone his shooting skills because of the in-game holographic sight. He used a similar device when he carried out his attack on Utoya Island.

"You could give the sight to your grandmother and she would become a supermarksman," Breivik stated.

Breivik's trial began on April 16th, and is expected to run approximately 10 weeks. Breivik has admitting to committing the killings, but stated that he acted in "self defense."

Source: New York Times

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This guy is a monster.

If he had to move in with his mother because of financial hardship how did he have money to spend on a years worth of WoW subscriptions?

I guess it's useless to question the logic of this man given his actions.

(Oh yeah, 1000 posts. Go me!)

Yes... because shooting 60-ish unarmed teenagers and blowing up a building is totaly self-defence... seriously who the fuck does he think will possibly fall for that?

Not quite how his gaming habits were reported below.

"The revelation came as Breivik described how he became a deadly marksman by honing his gun skills by playing the violent Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare computer game."
From: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132002/Anders-Behring-Breivik-trial-Norwegian-mass-killer-played-violent-video-game-Call-Duty-16-hours-day.html

"Norway killer sharpened aim on computer games" (AP)

http://news.google.co.uk/news/story?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=R6c&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&q=breivik+game&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=dbj7rP54nTTRWEMoA1Rme-kfvtgyM&ei=Q2GQT6q3HOmf0QWR_sSFAg&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQqgIwAA

As per usual alarmist and clueless reporting. Just so disappointed how many respected publications (i.e not the mail above) are reporting as fact that you can improve your skills with a real gun from playing COD. Rather than reporting what he said and calling him out for being an idiot as what he is a saying would not work. You don't need great aim when unfortunately your victims don't have much of a chance to escape or fire back. And when you have two hours to walk around an island picking them off. All you need as a requirement for that, is serious metal issues....

Why is he even pleading not guilty? Everything he has said since the trial started has contributed in some way to extending his already very long prison sentence.

I also caught a mention that hes got something even more shocking to come. Assuming its not the "I'd do it again." i cant possibly think how this guy could dig a deeper hole for himself.

Wierdguy:
Yes... because shooting 60-ish unarmed teenagers and blowing up a building is totaly self-defence... seriously who the fuck does he think will possibly fall for that?

I think his aim at this point is to make as much noise as possible. He knows hes going down, he is just using self defence as an excuse to buy time.

Oh, i answered my own question. Bonus points.

Ok so he killed 77 people and deserves whatever he gets... but at least he tried to call bullshit on reports insinuating that gaming had anything to do with it.

At least until that last part. If I was into conspiracies, I'd be calling shenanigans on him suddenly admitting that he used CoD as a training tool. But I'm not.

Great, now the worst murderer in the world is gonna be considered a gamer, great times ahead.

He's also a huge dick, just saying.

AdamRBi:
Ok so he killed 77 people and deserves whatever he gets... but at least he tried to call bullshit on reports insinuating that gaming had anything to do with it.

At least until that last part. If I was into conspiracies, I'd be calling shenanigans on him suddenly admitting that he used CoD as a training tool. But I'm not.

Thing is he admitted that it taught him how to SHOOT. Not how to KILL. There's a big difference. You can spend all your life shooting moving plastic targets and become the most amazing marksman in the world, but it doesn't mean a damn thing if you're not prepared to kill someone.

Course most people won't notice the difference and take that statement to mean that CoD is evil and teaches people to be killing machines.

Oooooh god, here it comes...

Games used as a tool to "train" for his mass murder spree. Just like making a computer simulation or drawing a map.... Its the Miyagi effect where the tool is just a tool, and the person using said tool is still responsible for his/her actions.

Anyone else thinks it sad that it's the unrepentant mass murderer who's speaking more logic than the media?

Screamarie:

AdamRBi:
Ok so he killed 77 people and deserves whatever he gets... but at least he tried to call bullshit on reports insinuating that gaming had anything to do with it.

At least until that last part. If I was into conspiracies, I'd be calling shenanigans on him suddenly admitting that he used CoD as a training tool. But I'm not.

Thing is he admitted that it taught him how to SHOOT. Not how to KILL. There's a big difference. You can spend all your life shooting moving plastic targets and become the most amazing marksman in the world, but it doesn't mean a damn thing if you're not prepared to kill someone.

Course most people won't notice the difference and take that statement to mean that CoD is evil and teaches people to be killing machines.

That's actually an extremely valid point and, honestly, something I myself hadn't even really considered much before. In retrospect, tt was an inkling that I had danced around and come up in several of my own thoughts about this sort of thing but it's quite nice to see it so plainly stated. :)

I was reading in the newspaper that when they played his video of him ranting on about multiculturalism he started crying. A lip reader then watched him as he leaned over and whispered to his lawyer "It's OK, I'm fine. It's just an emotional film"

This man is simply a monster with no remorse for his victims or their families and he deserves everything he gets and more.

I have been reading on this and i hate that the max prison sentence he can serve is 22 years.
Btw he says he is not guilty because he was "protecting" the nation from other religions.
I hate this monster.

This guy is a monster it feels trivial to complain about what he might have done to our industry.

why are all these mass murdering always blaming Islam in all their manifestos??

I saw this and thought "I may be psycotic,but don't my intelligence. It is just a hobby."

kenu12345:
I have been reading on this and i hate that the max prison sentence he can serve is 22 years.

Even after 21 years, Breivik won't be released from prison if there is an overwhelming chance that he will pose further danger to society. And considering his extremist views and actions, that is most certainly the case. The Norwegian justice system is built around a system of rehabilitation, prevention and treatment, not revenge, and I would not have it any other way.

GamerMage:
I saw this and thought "I may be psycotic,but don't my intelligence. It is just a hobby."

Its a sad day when a pychotic mass murderer appears to have more common sense than the media.

On topic:

However this guy is completely sick and twisted. I don't think Norway has a death penalty but really this guy needs one.

*sighs in relief* So that means playing RPG's and Zelda titles will not make me break into other people houses and destroy stuff? YES! I can game again!

he played COD to home his shooting skills?! yes, i played cooking mama to help me in the kitchen, THIS GUY IS AN ARSE.

its a fucking shame that the maximum sentence is 22 years. last thing we need are murders release back into society. damn it.

ph0b0s123:
Not quite how his gaming habits were reported below.

"The revelation came as Breivik described how he became a deadly marksman by honing his gun skills by playing the violent Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare computer game."
From: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132002/Anders-Behring-Breivik-trial-Norwegian-mass-killer-played-violent-video-game-Call-Duty-16-hours-day.html

"Norway killer sharpened aim on computer games" (AP)

http://news.google.co.uk/news/story?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=R6c&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&q=breivik+game&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=dbj7rP54nTTRWEMoA1Rme-kfvtgyM&ei=Q2GQT6q3HOmf0QWR_sSFAg&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQqgIwAA

As per usual alarmist and clueless reporting. Just so disappointed how many respected publications (i.e not the mail above) are reporting as fact that you can improve your skills with a real gun from playing COD. Rather than reporting what he said and calling him out for being an idiot as what he is a saying would not work. You don't need great aim when unfortunately your victims don't have much of a chance to escape or fire back. And when you have two hours to walk around an island picking them off. All you need as a requirement for that, is serious mental issues....

I can trust the courts (somewhat) but you can't trust the media not to not resort to sensationalist misrepresentation.

I'm still curious, if some expert in mental illness and criminal law in Norway can explain how this guy is not insane. He is clearly deranged to describe cold blooded murder of almost 80 unarmed people as self-defence, or is it just that he is "not insane enough". Is the only type of insanity they would have accepted was if he genuinely was so deranged he thought he was shooting at nothing but balloons and didn't know what he was doing. Is that it?

At the very least, Brevik's state of mind doesn't seem to represent nor reflect any wider political sentiment, it's quite clearly his own twisted mind that brought this about, not some wider events. This is as irrelevant to politics as a serial rapist saying he did it all to raise awareness for spina bifida. It's a complete non-sequiter.

Wierdguy:
Yes... because shooting 60-ish unarmed teenagers and blowing up a building is totaly self-defence... seriously who the fuck does he think will possibly fall for that?

From what I read of his manifesto awhile back (yes, I love to read crazy bullshit, I have the Unabomber's manifesto on my bookshelf. To be honest Breivik's manifesto is terrible in contrast, he repeats everything over and over again while the Unabomber actually had some rationalization for his actions) he's probably arguing that on some kind of cultural grounds, i.e. the 'Christian' culture of Norway is being destroyed by multiculturalism allowed by 'liberal' leaders. Thus he's defending himself and his culture from some kind of invaders.

He's also looking to be made a martyr to some extent. He's specifically said that he thinks that Norway should re-establish the death penalty and that the choice should be between freedom or execution.

Though it's almost funny that he's calling out the 'video games made him do it' people.

Treblaine:

I'm still curious, if some expert in mental illness and criminal law in Norway can explain how this guy is not insane. He is clearly deranged to describe cold blooded murder of almost 80 unarmed people as self-defence, or is it just that he is "not insane enough". Is the only type of insanity they would have accepted was if he genuinely was so deranged he thought he was shooting at nothing but balloons and didn't know what he was doing. Is that it?

Because the problem is that people like this don't fit into any clear mental illness that would be required for them to be considered insane, as well as (and I'm not sure if this applies to Norway) you generally have to prove that you were not aware what you were doing was legally wrong (morals aren't considered) - he's already admitted that he was fully aware he was breaking the law. Not helped by the fact that numerous douchebags with absolutely nothing wrong with them but greed or selfishness have tried to claim insanity before, and it creates a climate where claiming insanity is seen as a cop-out to avoid prison (having seen what mental instituions can do to people, it really isn't btw).

For the record though, I agree with you - anyone that can casually murder almost 100 unarmed people and then claim "meh, would have killed more given the chance" is clearly batshit crazy, even if they don't have anything specific.

LadyDeadly:
he played COD to home his shooting skills?! yes, i played cooking mama to help me in the kitchen, THIS GUY IS AN ARSE.

its a fucking shame that the maximum sentence is 22 years. last thing we need are murders release back into society. damn it.

Apparently that's why the prosecution is going for the insanity thing - if the jury agrees then they can lock him up "for as long as he's still a danger to society", which will hopefully mean forever...

Wait, his irl gun sight autotargets? That's pretty snazzy.

I mean, wow he's a horrible person.

At least not all media outlets are steaming into the "he plays video games therefore they're to blame" rhetoric.

Forbes has a nice little piece on the absurdity of that 'logic': http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/04/19/the-idiocy-of-blaming-video-games-for-the-norway-massacre/

kenu12345:
I have been reading on this and i hate that the max prison sentence he can serve is 22 years.
Btw he says he is not guilty because he was "protecting" the nation from other religions.
I hate this monster.

22 years before parole hearings, not 22 years before auto-release.

Charles Manson has the same deal (he was about the same age as this guy when arrested) and has had repeated Parole hearings and repeatedly been denied.

As to my feelings on this monster, I remember the parable of Moby Dick, how a man like Captain Ahab could become consumed tying to enact retribution on a being that does not know reason, and the futility in that. I think Brevik is a monster like an animal beyond reason, deep down in his brain the central reasoning and cause and effect circuitry isn't there, so that largely he fails - in my book - key classifications of being a real human, like how someone who is brain dead isn't really alive any more. He's like a malfunctioning android, to be hated only in the sense that a dog that goes rabid and mauls a child should be hated.

Brevik should be destroyed only to prevent him doing it again, but frankly it would be just as good if he was locked up where he can't hurt anyone.

I don't think he necessarily got any glee from his killing, so I don't think he'll get any satisfaction in reliving his memories. If anything, keeping him alive the guilt may finally sink in. And that, I think would be a better punishment than annihilating his consciousness, if there is any guilt in his mind give it 50-60 years to fester.

weirdguy:
Wait, his irl gun sight autotargets? That's pretty snazzy.

LOL! That's what I was thinking... maybe he developed a bionic arm that can snap to ADS and onto a target in a fraction of a second...

But back on topic: What a murdering fuckwad. Self defence? FFS...

Treblaine:
you can't trust the media not to not resort to sensationalist misrepresentation.

I'm still curious, if some expert in mental illness and criminal law in Norway can explain how this guy is not insane. He is clearly deranged to describe cold blooded murder of almost 80 unarmed people as self-defence, or is it just that he is "not insane enough". Is the only type of insanity they would have accepted was if he genuinely was so deranged he thought he was shooting at nothing but balloons and didn't know what he was doing. Is that it?

The opinions are mixed. Two psychologists, one says he's sane the other insane. so It's up to the judge to decide.

Anders wants to be sent to prison because then his "mission" will be successful and his points will have some validity. While the prosecutors wants him to be declared insane because then his mission would have failed and his points are made invalid.

Don't forget. Anders is a martyr [insert DA2 reference] , he is willing to suffer so long as his beliefs are heard and believed.

Buretsu:
Anyone else thinks it sad that it's the unrepentant mass murderer who's speaking more logic than the media?

I know it's weird isn't it? I read what he said about playing WoW and thought maybe he really is sane. Then he claimed to have trained using CoD and realized he's not just insane, he's schizophrenic.

--EDIT--
He's that Hannibal Lecter brand of crazy. I imagine years from now he'll be sitting in a jail cell helping the Norwegian equivalent of an FBI agent named Clarice.


God it's gonna be awesome.

Saviordd1:

He's also a huge dick, just saying.

Oooohhh, I read that sentence totally wrong, and I thought "What? How does he know and why does he feel like mentioning it?".

Anyway, monster doesn't even begin to describe this guy. And self-defense is the dumbest excuse he could have possibly given. He could have said "The ghosts made me do it" and it wouldn't have sound any stupider. My only assumption is that he did it in order to confuse people into thinking he was actually mentally challenged instead of evil.

And yeah, of course the media is going to take advantage to blame this on videogames, as they usually do like the ignorant a**holes they are. And the fact that the guy is being reasonable about WoW (claiming it's only a hobby and not a magic spell that makes people forget it's not the real world) is not helping at all, because they will ignore his comments as if they were the ravings of a madman.

Anders Breivik recently refuted claims from a prosecutor that he was a financially bankrupt loser who spent years playing video games while living in his mother's home.

Breivik said he moved back in with his mother in late 2006 to save money after an investment setback. He then spent the next year playing World of Warcraft, sometimes for up to 16 hours a day.

Makes sense to me...

Too bad there is Norway the general public is going to take him seriously though.

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