Norwegian Mass Murderer Defends Gaming Habits

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Breivik later stated said he spent several months in 2010 extensively playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, claiming that he used the first person shooter to help hone his shooting skills because of the in-game holographic sight. He used a similar device when he carried out his attack on Utoya Island.

"You could give the sight to your grandmother and she would become a supermarksman," Breivik stated.

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It's surprising that someone who managed to kill 77 people could think Call of Duty was in any way similar to ACTUALLY firing a weapon. It's not. At all.

This guy is about as sick as they come. And he loves the media attention, which he is getting in way greater quantities then he could possibly have hoped for. This whole trial is messed up, because it has given Breivik opportunities to act out infront of the cameras(not to mention the victims, and they REALLY dont deserve this crap). I think he's fully aware that no trial in the world would set him free, so he's using this opportunity for public display, that for some bizarre and twisted reason has been given to him the way it has, to its fullest.

As for violent crimes and gaming: Doesnt matter much what Breivik says, the fact that he's played games and committed crimes will have conservatists eager to scream "Video games will create killer kids!111*mouthfoams*" in no time. Despite half a billion scientific studies that show violent games and violent behaviour are not linked.
But hey, its not like its the first time ideology has ignored something annoying as...sense.

Maybe next they'll reveal that Hitler was an avid chess player, link it to Magneto and go "games and entertainment of any form is the language of the devil!" Cant rule anything out with the media these days.

shit like this makes me a sad panda and Fox is going to have fun with this

Well, at least we're not going to start getting backlash over this, or at least, less of it.
Also, think about it, some of us may have played online with this guy...
*shudder*
I didn't, as I don't have those games, but still, damn creepy thought...

The hell is wrong with the Captcha? I had to refresh about 50 times to get one that I could actually decipher.

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It costs around 20,000 USD to incarcerate a man for a year. Sweden should make a "budget cut" and give him a short fall with a sudden stop.

You know its more expensive in the US to give somebody the death penalty then put them in jail for fifty years.

I'm Norwegian.

And I'd like to say that the way the media over here handles things is... annoying, to say the least.

They mention him everyday. Every single day. And just like the greatest joke can become shit after hearing it to many times (The cake is a lie). The most horrible tragedies can become ...mundane after hearing about it too many times. (Whom but surviving victims takes Nazis seriously anymore?) And a lot of Norwegians (at the very least in my area) has become so tired of hearing about this. We get it, he was bad man, now give him our strongest punishment or just shoot him and get it over with.

I'm gonna go off on a bit of an angry rant here.

Yesterday I heard a report from the trial. where the main focus was Breivik's gaming habits. And I cringed when I heard them say:
"[Breivik] spent many hours playing the popular strategy game World of Warcraft. And he also claims to have used the realistic shooting game Call of Duty." (Unsure which one but it doesn't really matter).
They have no idea what they are talking about. And it's annoying that games will get blamed (at least partially) for this.

And people still seem to expect some manner of remorse or regret in him. He is just a dude that has lost empathy for others. He killed a bunch of people in what he saw as some sort of twisted justice, and now he tries to shift the blame from himself to anything he can:

"Games helped me train, blame them."
"The general populace voted against what I think is correct, blame them."
"I am a member of the Knights Templar, (no seriously, he actually claimed this.) And thus I have some sort of moral high ground and you are wrong."
(not actual quotes, but this is what it sounds like)

He is an murderous idiot that tries to convince himself and in the process everybody else that he is not just a mass-murdering dumbass.

[/frustrated rant]

-V

what's it matter anyway... he's anyway going into what basically is a freaking hotel for 20+ years...

Huh.....alright, then.

It's pretty hard to take anything this guy says seriously, since he's obviously a bit of a psychopath. But it its interesting to here his take on video games, I guess.

Surprised there are still people confused about the 21/22 year thing. I thought it'd been explained enough by now.

Anyway, the guy's seriously screwed up in the head. In his twisted reasoning, I think he honestly believes that what he did was a necessary and morally justifiable thing. When he pleads self defence, I don't think he's doing it in the conventional way most people would think of.

Vornek:

And people still seem to expect some manner of remorse or regret in him. He is just a dude that has lost empathy for others. He killed a bunch of people in what he saw as some sort of twisted justice,

^^Basically that

Hopefully he'll be locked up for good (and I'd be surprised if he didn't). I don't usually say that about criminals, but there's almost no way this guy could ever again be considered fit enough to be let back into society.

Wierdguy:
Yes... because shooting 60-ish unarmed teenagers and blowing up a building is totaly self-defence... seriously who the fuck does he think will possibly fall for that?

He claims self defense because he did it to "stop the increasing spread and world power of the Muslims" Those kids were at a camp funded by his country's version of the liberal party. He saw them as an indoctrinated threat.

He's a Christian terrorist.

Look at the power he amassed... He can point at anything - DnD, Mass Effect, Firefly and say that it played a crucial role in building his attitude and presto. People will start to treat those things with at leas caution and suspicion. It's best for the world to never ever hear anything about Breivik again. He is now probably even more dangerous than before. :\

MPerce:
Huh.....alright, then.
It's pretty hard to take anything this guy says seriously, since he's obviously a bit of a psychopath. But it its interesting to here his take on video games, I guess.

"A bit" ? O_o

What a hero, he did this all do get Call of Duty out of the market.

In case you suffered a strange musical accident when you were a boy, please know that I am joking

Seriously, "Self defense".... This guy's so nuts it's hilarious.

WMDogma:
recently refuted claims from a prosecutor that he was a financially bankrupt loser who spent years playing video games while living in his mother's home.

Reporters in charge of being neutral. I can't take the Escapist seriously anymore.

I'd probably go postal too if I played COD exclusively for months.

I'm concerned he could get up to 21 years for murdering 77 people. 21 years.

He already said he'd do it again, I hope he get's locked up somewhere until he is dead.

Argumentum ad hominem. His argument and reasons are not devalued because he is a murderer. I'm appalled by his actions and i totally see why people are calling him a monster, but in a lot of ways he seems sane (depending on what standards your judging him by.)

Freakout456:
Seriously Norway you can't let this guy live. Slaughtering one person is evil.......multiply that by nearly 80. They need to put him to death for justice against the families affected by this. I mean most of them were children; that is just sick.

Yeah the death penalty solves everything.
Yes, he's a sick person, but it really bugs me when people are in favour of executing someone to create a sense of justice or fulfil vengeance. Emotion really shouldn't be an influence in those decisions.

The_Waspman:

Or is he talking about that song by Lana Del Rey? Because I heard that song and it made me want to kill someone.

Oh no you didn't

FamoFunk:
I'm concerned he could get up to 21 years for murdering 77 people. 21 years.

"If he is found to be clinically insane, he can be held in psychiatric care for life and if he is found criminally guilty, the sentence can be extended (by five years at a time) if a parole board believes he still poses a threat to society."

AnarchistFish:

FamoFunk:
I'm concerned he could get up to 21 years for murdering 77 people. 21 years.

"If he is found to be clinically insane, he can be held in psychiatric care for life and if he is found criminally guilty, the sentence can be extended (by five years at a time) if a parole board believes he still poses a threat to society."

You didn't quote the bit where I said I hope he's locked up somewhere until he is dead, which was referring to the psychiatric care.

I do realise I should of been more clear in my original post. >.<

Although I do think he will be there for life. No normal person murders 77 people.

You know the courts and media are messed up in the anti-gaming hype if even a delusional political extremist turned mass murderer can succesfully argue a point against them.

FamoFunk:
I'm concerned he could get up to 21 years for murdering 77 people. 21 years.

So? That means he'll be an old man by the time he gets out. Even with the shortest possible sentence and no extensions, his life would be over, except he likely wouldn't leave prison in a box. I don't really see the added value of having a 70 year old sit in prison for longer than he already has at that point.

Rather worry that Christianity seems to be following in Islam's footsteps in regarding to spawning violent extremists. While violence is caused by any and all religion, Christianity seemed among the less harmfull ones at least in the context of western and northern Europe.

14 weeks per death, yay law.

"So? That means he'll be an old man by the time he gets out. Even with the shortest possible sentence and no extensions, his life would be over, except he likely wouldn't leave prison in a box."

Even if he does survive prison, going out will mean insta death, hes certainly far safer inside than outside.

I just want to know what server he played one, and what faction.
Just to have the hopes that I might have kicked his ass once in PvP.

Can't read the whole thread.

I found it tragic comic thou when the press a couple of weeks after the incident wrote "he abused some artists music, listening to it while firing to keep in the correct state of mind"
While at the same time writing he used the violent game WoW.

Used/Abused

Guess the artist in question should be blamed as well while we are at it.
Could make the claim that the music was used and enabled him......

This is an interesting dilemma? Should we let him speak his twisted thoughts to the world? Would it be wrong if we shut him off from the world?

But we all know the media is simply using this information. No matter how much you might want them to research videogames it doesn't help them. They might even know that it's wrong but it gets the viewers and the pageviews.

Blablahb:
So? That means he'll be an old man by the time he gets out. Even with the shortest possible sentence and no extensions, his life would be over, except he likely wouldn't leave prison in a box. I don't really see the added value of having a 70 year old sit in prison for longer than he already has at that point.

He is 33 year old now. He'll be 54 when he get out (which he won't, see my earlier reply). So not old man, more like late middleaged...

Blablahb:
You know the courts and media are messed up in the anti-gaming hype if even a delusional political extremist turned mass murderer can succesfully argue a point against them.

FamoFunk:
I'm concerned he could get up to 21 years for murdering 77 people. 21 years.

So? That means he'll be an old man by the time he gets out. Even with the shortest possible sentence and no extensions, his life would be over, except he likely wouldn't leave prison in a box. I don't really see the added value of having a 70 year old sit in prison for longer than he already has at that point.

Rather worry that Christianity seems to be following in Islam's footsteps in regarding to spawning violent extremists. While violence is caused by any and all religion, Christianity seemed among the less harmfull ones at least in the context of western and northern Europe.

He's 32/33, so he'd be 53 when he's released, hardly an old Man. He'll still hold these views that caused him to murder and has said he'd do it again.

I think Norwegians would feel much safer knowing he's behind bars, even at 70.

Yeah, he probably watched violent films too. Who gives a shit? Mountains being made out of fuck all, as usual.

In other news: Hitler used to have a shit most days. Can we really allow the regular pooers of the world to pass fecal matter unsupervised?!

It's madness that anyone feel the need to even consider running a story about games being the "cause" or means of training for the attacks. Similar to how the child services was blamed early on for not having snapped up Breivik as a troubled boy... WE DON'T IMPRISSON PEOPLE FOR BEING TROUBLED! Fuck, a massive amount of people are "troubled" to some extent. Similarily, there are millions upon millions of people that play videogames. Should we imprison all of these because there is "a chance they will commit acts of terrorism"?

Breiviks attacks have been blamed upon everything under the sun by Norwegian media and politicians. It's been the fault of 4 seperate instances of the government, and the entirety of government itself. It has been the fault of the prime minister (personally, somehow), the police intelegence service has been blamed for not preventing the attacks, the police was blamed for not acting quickly enough when the attacks happened...

Breiviks attacks is the fault of Breivik alone, and unless it turns out he was in league with someone he should recieve ALL the blame. Sure, we SHOULD better our procedures so that we may better prevent something like this in the future, but then let's do that! There is only one head that needs rolling in this instance...

Dont even know why gaming has been brought in to the court room. Has zero to do with a man killing all those people. Dont know why the case is still continuing, he already said he did it.

My captcha said 'Stranger Danger'. lol

C'mon! He's in Norway.

String him up as a black metal prop. It's so...justified.

I find it amusing that a murderer makes more sense on the topic of video games and their supposed correlation with violence than any news media out there. I may feel he deserves punishment for his murders but that was a surprising moment of rationality, "Gaming is just a hobby. It is not a world you are engulfed by. It had nothing to do with the events of that day."

Now if only the news media would realize that.

You know, I don't think I want the mass-murdering monster defending my hobby.

I bet he stood up when he pissed. Every man who stands up while pissing must therefore be a violent criminal. STOP STAND-UP PISSING NOW!!!!

Scrustle:
If he had to move in with his mother because of financial hardship how did he have money to spend on a years worth of WoW subscriptions?

I guess it's useless to question the logic of this man given his actions.

(Oh yeah, 1000 posts. Go me!)

10 a month is cheap for a hobby.

WMDogma:
On trial for killing 77 people in July of last year in one of the worst acts of mass murder ever committed, Anders Breivik recently refuted claims from a prosecutor that he was a financially bankrupt loser who spent years playing video games while living in his mother's home.

"I was not living with my mother. She was living with me!", the enraged Breivik shouted out in open court.

WMDogma:
Furthermore, Breivik claimed he also moved back home to have more time for writing his manifesto, a 1,500 page collection of hate-filled rambles against multiculturalism in Europe and Islam, and that his supposed game addiction was just a cover for his other activities.

You can just imagine it, can't you? Him sitting in the basement while his mother stands at the top of the stairs shouting down.
"Anders, what are you doing down there? Are you writing hate speeches against Islam again?"
"No I'm not! I'm... uh... I'm... gaming addicted. Yes, I'm a hopeless video game addict, that's it! Hey, by the way have you seen my copy of 'Mein Kampf' somewhere? I need it for...um, Call of Duty."

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