DVS BSTrD: If the European mainstream has such an aversion to blood, it's no wonder your women don't save.
Okay show of hands: Who else thought this would be related to the dress-code?
Seconded. Although, Europe is more sane than the US. If you're gonna get up in arms about a game containing mature content, why the fuck would you go after nudity and sex when the game contains tons of violence? See: GTA or Mass Effect "scandals".
henritje: I really hope this is just in the German version (considering that the German version is always cut)
Except they aren't. More often than not, the German version is identical to other language versions (except the language, obviously). Heavily cut versions are the exception, not the rule, and in the majority of cases developers/publishers way overdo the cutting because they fear a prohibitively high age rating even though, at least in recent years, the German rating board hasn't been any more strict than those in other countries.
draythefingerless: i would not censor anything. the dressing in tera is very good looking, my only complaint is that the males should share of the same greco-roman style approach to clothing. that is, barely any at all. no that is not sexual, i just find the dress code beautiful, if a bit on the erotic.
I respectfully disagree. From what I've seen, eroticism seems to be the ENTIRE POINT of the female dress code in TERA - The worst thing males get is an unbuttoned shirt, while almost everything the demon females wear looks like an Ivy cosplay.
Also, the elfin are disgusting - sexualizing little girls is NEVER okay. The defence "Oh, but they're not human! That makes it okay!" doesn't work either, as ideas are never made in a vacuum - the Elfin are SUPPOSED to look like prepubescent girls.
RT-Medic-with-shotgun: So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
Yeah the whole furry loli thing is to me a waaaaay bigger issue then blood flow. I've seen the game play videos it's just creepy as fuck.
RT-Medic-with-shotgun: So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
Yeah the whole furry loli thing is to me a waaaaay bigger issue then blood flow. I've seen the game play videos it's just creepy as fuck.
It's not furry. Technically it's just kemonomimi, or "animal ears".
And let me tell you, they certainly do make blood flow. [/sex joke]
RT-Medic-with-shotgun: So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
Yeah the whole furry loli thing is to me a waaaaay bigger issue then blood flow. I've seen the game play videos it's just creepy as fuck.
It's not furry. Technically it's just kemonomimi, or "animal ears".
And let me tell you, they certainly do make blood flow. [/sex joke]
I'd have no problem with them if they weren't on a the body of a nine year old.
DTH1337: Really, they're protesting just because of having no blood in the game?
Does every single video game these days need to have blood in them? No, they don't. So, stop whining about these minor changes and just enjoy the game.
I agree- not every game needs blood in it and you know why? Because in fighting games the heroes/villains would already die from losing to much! For example, in Soul Calibur 5 there is no blood when you smack/slash/stab/hit/kill an opponent. Instead it's just little colorful sparks but imagine if they kept bleeding every time a hit came in. The game would be ridiculous because.. after losing so much blood it would only make sense for them to pass out.
Which is why I always question Mortal Kombat. Fun game, especially their latest release but... after losing so much blood where your character's face is nearly drenching in it I have to wonder- being unrealistic means being a lee way to have more fun.. but having to much blood for the sake of violence may inflict the realism to drop way below and throws out the possibilities of the game being taken seriously at all.
Let's get this out of the way: I thought it was about the showing of so much skin which got everyone knickers in a twist. The thing that should be censored, well in cases of those races which look a hell lot like kids.
And now, to the topic. Too much blood? Oh okay. Let's just remove all the blood! That'll teach 'em that blood adds little to nothing in a MMO. Now if this was a FPS and TPS. >.>
people are enraged because they cut down on the amount of blood? heres the thing, if you start a petition over everything that upsets you, when you start a petition over something that is actually wrong and unfair, no one is going to listen to you. pick your battles. also, and i know that this goes without saying, since we are talking about an mmo, but if this is worth starting a petition over, you have too much free time on your hands.
i do think taking the blood out was weird though. the game has 12 year old girls who dont wear pants and ive seen porn movies with more clothing than the female humans and elves wear
RT-Medic-with-shotgun: So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
I guess some societies consider violence and murder to be a more serious event over pornography.
Wow, if they manage to organize a combined fan protest to represent them and still come off as bad as the worst retake ME3ers while insulting the developers then that's really a good sign for their community's reputation...
RT-Medic-with-shotgun: So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
Actually that's the European standard, which works in complete opposition to the US standard; while North Americans flip their shit at the mere mention of a partially exposed nipple, parts of Europe (and my beloved country in particular) hit the brakes if developers dare making a game with more blood in it than could result from a scraped knee.
RT-Medic-with-shotgun: So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
Actually, their armors are already censored a bit, mostly by adding pants or skirts over their underpants. Of course there has been slight outrage over that as well. I personally think the censored designs look better for the most part.
DVS BSTrD: If the European mainstream has such an aversion to blood, it's no wonder your women don't shave.
Okay show of hands: Who else thought this would be related to the dress-code?
I tend to go right off anything that a censor screws with- or that a developer fiddles with purely to appease a censor and get a certain rating. I'm not going to cancel my pre-order, because it's a hassle, but I probably won't go past the 30 free days either.
TERA is clearly an article of entertainment media aimed primarily at adults. Censorship of media aimed at a group defined by having the capacity and the right to choose for themselves is retarded. It protects nobody. It's the oppression of peers by those who are no better qualified than those whose hobbies they are fucking with to say what's okay and what's not.
DVS BSTrD: If the European mainstream has such an aversion to blood, it's no wonder your women don't save.
Thats just Germany. I dont know why the country with the biggest record of bloodshed in European history got this adversion to blood in digital media from, but its there.
Okay show of hands: Who else thought this would be related to the dress-code?
I did. Imagine my surprise to see it was something much more minor.
I don't get this. Only our dumb neighbor censors our blood in their games (Steam has special "German versions"), and I don't understand why TERA EU has to suffer for it.
Also, it's been known for a fact since at least 90s or earlier that in Europe, sex is okay, blood isn't, and in America blood is okay, sex isn't.
RT-Medic-with-shotgun: So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
Actually, their armors are already censored a bit, mostly by adding pants or skirts over their underpants. Of course there has been slight outrage over that as well. I personally think the censored designs look better for the most part.
SO they have pants right? No more 'cotton thong your on to catch a predator'? I just went google searching and boy do i think i will go bleach my brain. That people are outraged that the developers gave them clothing for other countries makes me want to disable my ability to go into the dregs of the internet. MMORPG.com, MMOchampion, etc. Seal it up before they reach the surface. I mean for fucks sake, they act like its a slight against Korean culture. I entered a forum and immediately found my jaw in a permanent slackjawed "WTF?" state. Why? Because people related 9 year old girls not wearing pants to grown ass women not wearing a top in public. This brings back horrible news memories. That "child porn" is free speech protected. Know something i didn't want brought up today?
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And no, i do not want to feast my eyes on the elin. I would have preferred going my entire life as opposed to knowing that not liking pedo-bait made me a bigot.
RT-Medic-with-shotgun: So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
I guess some societies consider violence and murder to be a more serious event over CHILD pornography.
Fixed that for ya. And its not even the murder they are mad about. Its the murder with too much blood. Difference there. Its not anger at the killing rather all the blood from said killing. Running them through with a bastard sword is ok but does there have to be so much blood?
RT-Medic-with-shotgun: So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
Actually that's the European standard, which works in complete opposition to the US standard; while North Americans flip their shit at the mere mention of a partially exposed nipple, parts of Europe (and my beloved country in particular) hit the brakes if developers dare making a game with more blood in it than could result from a scraped knee.
I just would have expected SOME degree of "hey whats the bug idea here?" from Europe over this. I mean the US hasn't had any. Guess the tea party is busy with other bull shit and no one else can give a fuck. What is the world coming to when we have overloaded our moral panic department. Shame. SO much scary stuff to make them afraid of the world that they cannot be outraged at all of it.
I would love to go sleep now but i feel mentally scarred. I seek out terrifying, horrific, and inhumane news reports for a hobby and this behavior just... Anyone that wants to play Russian roulette with me is welcome to join. That or get to work on colonizing mars.
RT-Medic-with-shotgun: So lemme get this straight. 9 year old girls in their underpants is okay but the blood had to go? 9 year old girls in fox ears and underpants but its the blood that is the issue. REALLY!? This is the one time not a single fuck was given about sex in video games?
Actually, their armors are already censored a bit, mostly by adding pants or skirts over their underpants. Of course there has been slight outrage over that as well. I personally think the censored designs look better for the most part.
SO they have pants right? No more 'cotton thong your on to catch a predator'? I just went google searching and boy do i think i will go bleach my brain. That people are outraged that the developers gave them clothing for other countries makes me want to disable my ability to go into the dregs of the internet. MMORPG.com, MMOchampion, etc. Seal it up before they reach the surface. I mean for fucks sake, they act like its a slight against Korean culture. I entered a forum and immediately found my jaw in a permanent slackjawed "WTF?" state. Why? Because people related 9 year old girls not wearing pants to grown ass women not wearing a top in public. This brings back horrible news memories. That "child porn" is free speech protected. Know something i didn't want brought up today?
Nope, no more thongsPHA+PGltZyBzcmM9Imh0dHA6Ly8xLmJwLmJsb2dzcG90LmNvbS8tZjRHem5scTctc1UvVGF4azhVUVZLVkkvQUFBQUFBQUFBRWMvbF9JWnpkMDVrUkUvczE2MDAvdGVyYS5lbGluLmNvbmNlcHQuYzA1LmpwZyIgYWx0PSJpbWFnZSIvPjxiciAvPjxpbWcgc3JjPSJodHRwOi8vaW1hZ2VzLm1tb3NpdGUuY29tL215L3VwbG9hZC9kNS83MC8xY2QxMDI1MWMxNmE0M2QwOTBlMjM5OTg2MmI0NjRhMi90aGVtZS9mZjRhMjg5YjI5MjFhYjA5MTg1ZDBiNmRiNjkzNDg4ODc5Ny5wbmciIGFsdD0iaW1hZ2UiLz48L3A+
Personally i could give less than a shit about what virtual characters of any age are wearing, but as i said, i actually like the censored designs more.
Oh those silly koreans (Tera is developed in S.Korea, right?) They think that european is nationality :D And even better- european is combination of stereotypes Looks like stereotypical norwegian (2m high blond with blue eyes) Denies/ignores all violence like stereotypical german And pretends sexuality doesn't exist like stereotypical british I simply adore those ignorant morons :)
But to be honest Tera will fail in Europe not because of blood or 9y-olds-in-panties. It will fail because this land is occupied by WoW and your game doesn't offer anything new. Simple as that.
I think the main issue is the fact that the US is completely uncensored with regards to blood whereas the EU has been censored pretty heavily. From what I understand it's to do with the distributors/ managers of the projects for each of the regions.
Enmasse are responsible for the NA servers whereas Frogster are responsible for the EU servers. I will agree that there is a lot of fanservice in the game but it's nice to see people getting up in arms about something non-sex related for once.
Just as add a slider that has a cap based on the users age problem solved. I mean no one has ever lied about their age on the internet to get into any sites and if they did, there is no way to prove it. Well without TS or Vent.
RT-Medic-with-shotgun: That "child porn" is free speech protected. Know something i didn't want brought up today?
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And no, i do not want to feast my eyes on the elin. I would have preferred going my entire life as opposed to knowing that not liking pedo-bait made me a bigot.
Won't someone PLEASE think about the fake children!?
Okay show of hands: Who else thought this would be related to the dress-code?
*Raises hand*
I thought that it would be something to do with the outrage people have over the little girls because "OMG whoever play's this game is a pedo" and all that. Im actully surprised Fox news hasn't jumped on this to declare that gaming creates pedos.
Im not going to complain about them protesting the removal of blood. It's censorship and doesn't really sit right with me. I'd probably be annoyed too if I had any interest in the game just because I know im playing a censored version.
Of course I wouldn't have thought it was that big a deal. Maybe let the developers know on their forums that they are displeased with it but I don't see the need for a petition. If they feel that strongly though then I wish them luck with it since I really don't want to be one of "those" people who whine and moan about gamer entitlement every time something like this happens.
Seconded. Although, Europe is more sane than the US. If you're gonna get up in arms about a game containing mature content, why the fuck would you go after nudity and sex when the game contains tons of violence? See: GTA or Mass Effect "scandals".