GeoHot Was High When He Posted PS3 Hack

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GeoHot Was High When He Posted PS3 Hack

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The famous hacker offers a few dirty secrets from his past.

George Hotz is arguably the most recognizable hacker name in the world. Even though he won his fair share of computer science prizes growing up in New Jersey, Hotz rose to national, if not world-prominence after jailbreaking the iPhone in 2007. Someone challenged him to do the same to Sony's "unbreakable" PlayStation 3 a few years later, and Hotz spent a month bending the powerful gaming console to his will. He was then sued by Sony, and perhaps unwittingly fanned the flames of a hacker revolution that spawned Anonymous attacks, LulzSec and the coining of the term "hacktivism" as a way for hackers to defend their digital rights. Through it all, George Hotz never committed a crime, or engaged in malicious hacking to steal data or shut down someone's servers. But he might have smoked his fair share of weed and popped a few pills.

"I'm the complete opposite of Anonymous," he told The New Yorker. "I'm George Hotz. Everything I do is aboveboard, everything I do is legit."

When Anonymous began #OpSony to fight for Hotz's rights, he was just worried that the Japanese would think he was somehow involved. "I hope to God Sony doesn't think this is me," he thought.

After the lawsuit between Hotz and Sony was settled, he was even invited to Sony's offices to divulge his methods for rendering the PS3 under his control. "If there were going to be lawyers there," he said, "I was going to be the biggest asshole ever." But the Sony engineering guys were "respectful" and just wanted to learn from him.

The picture that Hotz paints as a "white-hat" hacker or one that operates within his legal rights doesn't exactly jive with some of his behavior.

For example, while running a red light near his residence in Palo Alto, CA, he said. "Fuck these assholes. Stupidest red light ever. It makes no sense at all. I live by morals, I don't live by laws. Laws are something made by assholes."

He also has made his drug use pretty clear. Before a photo shoot celebrating Hotz's victory at the International Science and Engineering Fair in 2007, he admitted to smoking marijuana. "My eyes are bloodshot" in the photo, he said. "It's great."

Drug use also contributed to the public release of the PS3's master key. Hotz said he had taken Vicodin and OxyContin that day which may have made him a little freer with his hacking knowledge. "You just feel good about everything," Hotz remembered.

Still, George Hotz isn't a bad guy. He honestly doesn't believe he is doing anything wrong by hacking computers, phones or gaming consoles, even though major corporations like Sony and Apple may think differently. "This is the struggle of our generation, the struggle between control of information and freedom of information."

In that struggle, GeoHot fights to keep it all free.

Source: New Yorker

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And in the latest news: rebellious teenagers drink alcohol.

I wouldn't exactly call GeoHot Robinhood...Neither would I quote his pseudo-philosophy. Still, if he's willing to make fun and poke at the money grabbers I'm not going to get in his way.

Need I point out, like all his photos the Escapist use on stories about him, he still looks like a ponse.

And after the whole deal with Sony and jailbreaking the PS3, is he even still relevent to anyone?

WanderingFool:
Need I point out, like all his photos the Escapist use on stories about him, he still looks like a ponse.

And after the whole deal with Sony and jailbreaking the PS3, is he even still relevent to anyone?

Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks he looks like one in all his pics. Glad to know that the "hero" of our generation was whacked on pills the day he released the PS3's master key or he was baked when getting his picture taken for award... really bloody classy. Not to mention if things aren't his way he throws fits and acts like an asshole.

Even if he does any good it's pretty much overshadowed (to me) by the way he acts.

I wouldn't call this guy a hero.

hacking the apple iphone and ps3 to me is kinda dumb because you open the market for black market apps. This cause companies to lose money and they start attacking everyone(customer and hackers in equal force) so we all suffer because of his actions.

So he's a smart guy who's a dick about it? Isn't that pretty much any mentor character or cocky protege (is that the word?) in movie history?

A-Holes gonna be A-Holes.
At least he's not a malicious A-hole.

Greg Tito:
He was then sued by Sony, and perhaps unwittingly fanned the flames of a hacker revolution that spawned Anonymous attacks, LulzSec and the coining of the term "hacktivism" as a way for hackers to defend their digital rights.

I think the word "hacktivism" is a good bit older than that. Like L0pht/turn of the century old.

Greg Tito:
Through it all, George Hotz never committed a crime, or engaged in malicious hacking to steal data or shut down someone's servers. But he might have smoked his fair share of weed and popped a few pills.

Does this surprise anyone? He never looked nor acted like someone who was entirely on an even keel.

Geohots isn't bad people, he's just a dope

Jaeke:
A-Holes gonna be A-Holes.
At least he's not a malicious A-hole.

But's that's only if things go his way. He said so himself that if any lawyer was gonna be there even if they just sat and did nothing he would turn into a total asshole. That doesn't exactly make me feel safe that someone like him is really good at tech stuff and he has that kind of mindset.

mad825:
And in the latest news: rebellious teenagers drink alcohol.

I wouldn't exactly call GeoHot Robinhood...Neither would I quote his pseudo-philosophy. Still, if he's willing to make fun and poke at the money grabbers I'm not going to get in his way.

That's funny. Because when I read the article, I was like, I'm using that shit.

"I live by morals, I don't live by laws. Laws are something made by assholes."-Geohot

Greg Tito:
LulzSec and the coining of the term "hacktivism" as a way for hackers to defend their digital rights.

The term hactivism is much more recent than that, and the use of it in a human rights sense is equally as old, at least from 1999, and quite possibly before then. Not a major issue, but still.

Anyhow, this... must be a slow news day. Teenagers smoking drugs!? Sacre bleu.

Greg Tito:
He honestly doesn't believe he is doing anything wrong by hacking computers, phones or gaming consoles, even though major corporations like Sony and Apple may think differently. "This is the struggle of our generation, the struggle between control of information and freedom of information."

And he's right, so long as he's only doing it to his own stuff. Dude's clearly got skillz, probably has a bright future ahead of him in the IS industry if he doesn't do something really stupid in the meantime.

"I live by morals, I don't live by laws. Laws are something made by assholes."

For some reason when I read that I thought of this:

Greg Tito:
Still, George Hotz isn't a bad guy. He honestly doesn't believe he is doing anything wrong by hacking computers, phones or gaming consoles, even though major corporations like Sony and Apple may think differently. "This is the struggle of our generation, the struggle between control of information and freedom of information."

That Norwegian gunman and Hitler didn't believe they were doing anything wrong either.

*leans back in chair*

I await everyone's counter-arguments.

And in other news...

Seriously why is this important?

For example, while running a red light near his residence in Palo Alto, CA, he said. "Fuck these assholes. Stupidest red light ever. It makes no sense at all. I live by morals, I don't live by laws. Laws are something made by assholes."

and THATS the problem..some jerk thinks he's smarter than "the systm" and somone will end up hit by a car...dress it up all you want running a red light is running a red light...no matter how "justified" you feel

Soooo am I supposed to support him? Forgive him? Cheer him?

I'd rather just hit him to be honest.

Very tongue in cheek article. I approve.

As for the kid himself? He's a dick. That much is clear. He also looks like Brian Peppers. I don't care for his attitude about anything at all. Not a respectable person in my opinion.

If he wants to get stoned, I'd be happy to help. Just let me and the other people who nearly had credit info stolen go find some good ones to throw.

Man, What a dick. Just What?!?!

Meh. Geohot's pretty much a magnificent bastard, can't say I respect him that much though. However I do respect him more than anyone who's response to him involves some kind of violence. Just ends up making you look worse.

Yeah, he still sounds like a royal and complete asshole. Oh well. let him be an asshole as long as he does it on his own time and doesnt hurt anyone. Kharma usually takes care of these things.

EDIT: though I wouldnt mind helping by some rather... um... "morally justified" reasons that could be construed as lawfully illegal.

ForgottenPr0digy:
I wouldn't call this guy a hero.

hacking the apple iphone and ps3 to me is kinda dumb because you open the market for black market apps. This cause companies to lose money and they start attacking everyone(customer and hackers in equal force) so we all suffer because of his actions.

The companies don't actually lose money, at least not in any quantifiable amount.

If they did, you'd see a relatively higher sale of the same game on PS3 than the 360 (relative to owners / per capita).

ForgottenPr0digy:
I wouldn't call this guy a hero.

hacking the apple iphone and ps3 to me is kinda dumb because you open the market for black market apps. This cause companies to lose money and they start attacking everyone(customer and hackers in equal force) so we all suffer because of his actions.

When companies over-react (attacking everyone), they are to blame for their own actions.

Big f'n deal. So what, a large portion of all domestic countries peoples smoke weed. What a find here...

At least we finally have an explanation to why every single photo we get of him looks worse than the last.

KeyMaster45:

Greg Tito:
Still, George Hotz isn't a bad guy. He honestly doesn't believe he is doing anything wrong by hacking computers, phones or gaming consoles, even though major corporations like Sony and Apple may think differently. "This is the struggle of our generation, the struggle between control of information and freedom of information."

That Norwegian gunman and Hitler didn't believe they were doing anything wrong either.

*leans back in chair*

I await everyone's counter-arguments.

What counter-argument? You just invoked Goodwin's Law - no one will take you seriously now.

Raiyan 1.0:

KeyMaster45:

Greg Tito:
Still, George Hotz isn't a bad guy. He honestly doesn't believe he is doing anything wrong by hacking computers, phones or gaming consoles, even though major corporations like Sony and Apple may think differently. "This is the struggle of our generation, the struggle between control of information and freedom of information."

That Norwegian gunman and Hitler didn't believe they were doing anything wrong either.

*leans back in chair*

I await everyone's counter-arguments.

What counter-argument? You just invoked Goodwin's Law - no one will take you seriously now.

Who said I wanted to be taken seriously?

I don't see how him being high has anything to do with this...

Greg Tito:
GeoHot Was High When He Posted PS3 Hack

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The famous hacker offers a few dirty secrets from his past.

George Hotz is arguably the most recognizable hacker name in the world. Even though he won his fair share of computer science prizes growing up in New Jersey, Hotz rose to national, if not world-prominence after jailbreaking the iPhone in 2007. Someone challenged him to do the same to Sony's "unbreakable" PlayStation 3 a few years later, and Hotz spent a month bending the powerful gaming console to his will. He was then sued by Sony, and perhaps unwittingly fanned the flames of a hacker revolution that spawned Anonymous attacks, LulzSec and the coining of the term "hacktivism" as a way for hackers to defend their digital rights. Through it all, George Hotz never committed a crime, or engaged in malicious hacking to steal data or shut down someone's servers. But he might have smoked his fair share of weed and popped a few pills.

"I'm the complete opposite of Anonymous," he told The New Yorker. "I'm George Hotz. Everything I do is aboveboard, everything I do is legit."

When Anonymous began #OpSony to fight for Hotz's rights, he was just worried that the Japanese would think he was somehow involved. "I hope to God Sony doesn't think this is me," he thought.

After the lawsuit between Hotz and Sony was settled, he was even invited to Sony's offices to divulge his methods for rendering the PS3 under his control. "If there were going to be lawyers there," he said, "I was going to be the biggest asshole ever." But the Sony engineering guys were "respectful" and just wanted to learn from him.

The picture that Hotz paints as a "white-hat" hacker or one that operates within his legal rights doesn't exactly jive with some of his behavior.

For example, while running a red light near his residence in Palo Alto, CA, he said. "Fuck these assholes. Stupidest red light ever. It makes no sense at all. I live by morals, I don't live by laws. Laws are something made by assholes."

He also has made his drug use pretty clear. Before a photo shoot celebrating Hotz's victory at the International Science and Engineering Fair in 2007, he admitted to smoking marijuana. "My eyes are bloodshot" in the photo, he said. "It's great."

Drug use also contributed to the public release of the PS3's master key. Hotz said he had taken Vicodin and OxyContin that day which may have made him a little freer with his hacking knowledge. "You just feel good about everything," Hotz remembered.

Still, George Hotz isn't a bad guy. He honestly doesn't believe he is doing anything wrong by hacking computers, phones or gaming consoles, even though major corporations like Sony and Apple may think differently. "This is the struggle of our generation, the struggle between control of information and freedom of information."

In that struggle, GeoHot fights to keep it all free.

Source: New Yorker

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I honestly can't think of any reason why this was reported on. What exactly was your motivation for this news?

Vault101:
For example, while running a red light near his residence in Palo Alto, CA, he said. "Fuck these assholes. Stupidest red light ever. It makes no sense at all. I live by morals, I don't live by laws. Laws are something made by assholes."

and THATS the problem..some jerk thinks he's smarter than "the systm" and somone will end up hit by a car...dress it up all you want running a red light is running a red light...no matter how "justified" you feel

I'm the kind of person that stands at a crossing and waits for the light to tell me I can walk across, even if the street is entirely empty and I'm the only person there (call me crazy), but I don't think he was saying "hey, I just drove through this red light in the middle of rush hour." What I got from it was him ignoring a red light because there was no cars or people anywhere in the area.

Not a good idea to pick and choose when to obey traffic lights, but I'm just sayin' I don't think it's as bad as it sounds.

Meh. This story isn't really necessary. I already knew he was a giant asshole and douche. All this story was trying to tell me is that he's an ever bigger asshole and douche. I think the guy needs to be bent over by the law or at least stop using his own self righteous claims as a defense but that's just me.

Greg Tito:
George Hotz is arguably the most recognizable hacker name in the world.

Sigh... No... no he's not.

I'd actually never heard this guy's name until right now.

He will never be anything like, say, Mitnick.

F4LL3N:

mad825:
And in the latest news: rebellious teenagers drink alcohol.

I wouldn't exactly call GeoHot Robinhood...Neither would I quote his pseudo-philosophy. Still, if he's willing to make fun and poke at the money grabbers I'm not going to get in his way.

That's funny. Because when I read the article, I was like, I'm using that shit.

"I live by morals, I don't live by laws. Laws are something made by assholes."-Geohot

Fine, go ahead.

There's a strong connection between morality (means) and law (end). If you are living by morals then you are clearly, to an large extent living by laws. Morality is a law in itself. Even so, this article clearly shows that he can't even live by morals.

Again, no mean to disrespect GeoHot but he's just a fucking teenager. He's going to say shit that makes him seem oh so cool and rebellious.

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