Grey Carter:

Blizzard recomends players go and register their BattleTags right now to avoid the inevitable new user rush, and presumably to ensure you score that hilarious "HarryPothead420" user name before anyone else thinks of it.

Don't know if it's been pointed out but, from your own link:

A player's BattleTag is not unique, so you won't need to worry about whether your preferred name is available. You can use any name you wish, as long as it adheres to the BattleTag Naming Policy. Only one BattleTag can be associated with each Battle.net account.

There can be as many HarryPotheads420 as there are players.

Ashannon Blackthorn:

Hammeroj:

Ashannon Blackthorn:
Personally I wish both sides would shut the fuck up for awhile and give me ears a break...

You're not obliged to frequent forums. You know, the places where people

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True, but I do and it's annoying seeing every thread getting derailed by the fucking idiots who take 1 side or the other and neither side can see any valid points the other side may make. Middle ground folks, sometimes the other side has a point.

But shutting the fuck up won't solve anything (and it won't happen either). You need to dismantle the points people bring up instead of throwing your hands up and giving up. Otherwise, really, your productivity is at zero, or below.

AntonMTL:
Stop complaining about the DRM and Online only issues. If there were't so many thieving douchebags around this would not be necessary. What do you expect? This is the future of PC games. Its not Blizzards fault. They do deserve to get payed for there work and if you are so dead set against it don't by it. Its a free country.

I have many other issues with D3, such as the cartoon art style and lack of skill tree, but the mild annoyance of online only to prevent cheaters and pirates I support.

I give you a score of 10 in "Missing the Point 101", well done!

DRM is done for many reasons. Pirates is the very smallest of their concern. Control is what you're looking for. And that's what they want. Control on every. Single. Little aspect.

But hey, go on and buy into that Fox News-esque crap about it being all the Pirates fault. It's an easy way to go about things.

What happens when D3 gets old and the servers are shut down? That is the most disgusting thing here for me, Blizzard can literally disable ALL players' abilities to play the game as soon as the money stops flooding their offices.

Greg Waller:
It's going to be great.

And for the people griping about the online-only DRM...

Go ahead and be happy with the game, I've little problem with it, but is this really the type of discourse you wish to engage in? Would you be fine with people going "sheeple gonna sheep" whenever someone likes something?

I don't think you realise just how thoughtless the statement "haters gonna hate" is.

Greg Waller:
And I don't think you realize just how silly you sound arguing this debate at all. You go ahead and strut and thrust your hips at the topic like you're really, really mad about whatever it is you're mad about, and I'll happily enjoy the game and the "DRM" and the plot and the characters and the story.

Cheers!

So it is the type of discourse you want to engage in.

Very well, carry on then. Continue in your righteous quest of telling people you don't give a shit about what they have to say. This is the best position to have on anything in a place for the exchange of ideas, truly and obviously.

Although it really puzzles me as to why you even have to announce this to people. If you really didn't give a crap, wouldn't you be going off enjoying yourself? Just a rhetorical question.

Greg Waller:
OOh, ok ok. No, it's fine. You would rather I tighten my belt, puff my chest and spout bullshit like: [snip] Or like: [snip]

I would rather you not go around trying to marginalize people's opinions for no reason, whether it's on the basis of you not giving a fuck, or them being "haters", because it's annoying and brings nothing to the table apart from puffing up your e-peen.

Furthermore, you have to establish exactly why the posts you quoted are bullshit instead of just asserting it. Especially if you're asserting that in a conversation with the guy whose posts you're quoting.

Yeeeeaaahh NO. I'm not like you, I respect myself. Yes, I care that people are frustrated about what they claim to be "online only DRM." Yes, I think they're wrong and silly for thinking that there's some sort of corporate conspiracy to make the world's consumers into sheep. These people claiming that they "would have" bought the game if it had an offline single-player component is both ridiculous and stupid.

So yes, HATERS GONNA HATE. Me, and people like me, will go and enjoy the game regardless of the throngs of haters out there that think that we're mindless zombies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIoZ1bsILF8

You... Respect yourself? Unlike me? The fuck is that supposed to mean? Stop just throwing lines at me, elaborate.

No, you don't. Uttering the phrase "haters gonna hate" - repeatedly - is the antithesis of caring about what people have to say. You're, invariably, saying you don't care, with the possible added implication of people hating just for the fuck of it, hence them being haters.

Corporations' only goal is to make money. They are legally obliged to serve the best interests of their shareholders. It is far from a conspiracy theory to realise they only want to maximize profits. Fortunately for them, a lot of (if not most) consumers are, for all intents and purposes, sheep, just like most of the general population almost anywhere in the world. There is hardly any "making" needed to be done.

I'm almost at a loss what you're referring to with the sheep comment. The issue is way too broad for me to address it in one paragraph, and it seems to me all you're doing here is having a persecution complex. If you wrote that in rebuttal of my "sheeple gonna sheep" comment, then I'm sorry to inform you, but you completely missed the point of it. What I was doing in that post was advising you against precisely this sort of rhetoric and pointing out that nobody says this. Nobody (well, that's probably not true, hardly anybody) is calling you a sheep, but you're always free to prove yourself with the posts you create.

Wow. I want you to repeat this for me, because I have trouble believing this is your actual perspective. You think people are being ridiculous and stupid when they say they won't buy something that's needlessly, and overwhelmingly, restrictive? Really?

Again, quit it with the persecution complex. Nobody is thinking you're a mindless zombie until you demonstrate it to them.

Aeshi:
No, it's because said people seem to feel the need to swamp any thread with the words "Blizzard" or "Diablo III" with endless whining about it without making any real points or actually contributing anything intelligent to the discussion. If you're not gonna buy Diablo III then why are you even in a Diablo III thread?

I've yet to see any Diablo III fans doing this sort of thing to Torchlight II/Path of Exile/Grim Dawn/whatever threads (probably because there don't seem to be any but...)

Because... Blizzard can do better and should be pressured to do better? I said this in an earlier post. People wouldn't be posting shit if they didn't care about it.

Read what the guy wrote again, by the way. He said none of this. He was talking about how people wouldn't buy the game anyway if the DRM wasn't there. Then he proceeded to call them ridiculous and stupid.

I agree to some extent with your sentiment, that can be fairly annoying, but the unfortunate part of this is that "pissing and moaning", as some people put it, is the only way to get any sort of positive change out of Blizzard or almost any other game company at this point. The few positive changes on stuff like Starcraft 2's Battle.net, region locks, etc. would not have happened if people didn't keep bringing them up and giving Blizzard shit about it.

Surely you must at least agree that the incessant criticisms brought at least some positive change?

Greg Waller:

Hammeroj:

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You're one of those "last word" types, aren't you. Anyway, here's what I make of this:

I come into this thread and post a jovial, non-chalant comment about how I anticipate the game to be great and then throw in a meme for good measure in an effort to nudge the folks getting their pants in a knot over the DRM to lighten up a bit.

I'm one of those "if I have problems with someone's post, I'll quote him" types. Do you want me to just stop replying after you make all sorts of intriguing remarks?

Trying to marginalize people's opinions is not going to get anyone to lighten up a bit. Plus I'm curious as to why you think people should gloss over issues in the first place.

By the way, I see what you did there with the snip. It implies that you care about what I just said, amirite.

But mostly I was reacting to:

cynicalsaint1:

If only the game weren't required to be online all the time -.-

and:

Nurb:

Blizzard is creating their own damn headache just to have complete control over customers. If they had a regular game with offline mode and reasonable drop rate that isn't manipulated to increase demand on their auction house, people could just play the damn thing without accounts or logins or all other sorts of corporate money grubbing bullshit.

I might not be giving them money, but the way they and others do business now just drives me nuts.

Which was right about where I stopped reading the thread.

To me, the conversation about Blizzard-Activision's DRM policy, the nature of Battle.Net, and so on, is absurd. The above two examples (by my estimate) should have been more than enough to earn your ire, based on what you said above. The first example, because cynicalsaint1 wasn't really bringing anything to the conversation table, as it were. The second because "[having] complete control over customers" is something you felt you needed to explain to me.

So something in my comment drew your attention and you railed against it. In your eyes, perhaps, my "haters gonna hate" comment is exactly the kind of internet drivel that your grand intellect is above.

cynicalsaint1 brought up a problem. Being online-only, there will be times when the game is simply inaccessible or problematic to the consumer regardless of their predicament. Such as at server overloads, maintenance, et cetera. Without disregarding the consumer's predicament, the game may be inaccessible, barely accessible or otherwise problematic due to the stability or speed of their internet connection, or simply due to the consumer's geographic placement. These are issues that people have problems with. If you don't, good for you, and if you lack empathy enough, you might even go so far as say you don't give a shit, but that's no excuse to call those people ridiculous and stupid. This sort of behavior is the definition of being a closed-minded bigot.

I can't even begin to figure out how you tied Nurb's comment to some vagueries about something I don't remember saying. Be more specific. Don't do hilarious versions of a snip and instead reply point by point, that'll make your ridiculous stretches easier to understand.

I replied, pointing out examples of your own posts that were deconstructive, overly-critical, and downright feeble in terms of conversational value.

It's my firm belief that you came into this thread looking for a fight, and until you found my post, and my willingness to be trolled by you, you had been unsuccessful. Which is why I accused you of not respecting yourself.

Deconstructive? Because... I don't like something? Overly-critical? Because I'm fervent in my dislike? Feeble in terms of conversational value? Why, is it because you can't directly rebut a single one of my points? By the way, you're supposed to establish these adjectives, like I told you previously, not just assert them.

In a comically extreme use of the term, sure, I came here looking for a fight in the sense that I didn't agree with the sentiments of your post. In the not so extreme use of the term, if anyone in this conversation came here looking for a fight, it's your ass. I wasn't the one starting off with a finger to everyone who didn't agree with me, and don't you think you're even remotely justified in calling me a troll.

You claim I have some sort of persecution complex. And maybe I do. I'm pretty sure I don't though. My original post makes two bold and clear statements:

1) I anticipate the game.
2) I think that people who don't like the "DRM" (notice the quotes) are haters, because they simply can't be happy for a) Blizzard's success, b) other player's enjoyment of the game, c) etc.

I don't see how that shows any complex at all.

Maybe you don't, but your statements clearly hint at precisely that. Not your original statement, which was just an insult, but something later on. Why you'd think I was referring to your original post is beyond me, I wasn't bloody quoting it.

So yes, HATERS GONNA HATE. Me, and people like me, will go and enjoy the game regardless of the throngs of haters out there that think that we're mindless zombies.

This is what I was referring to. A completely uncalled for statement that serves no purpose but to portray you as a poor victim.

But as far as your reasons for the bolded part go, which weren't apparent until you clarified them now, I have problems with those, too.
-Why, exactly, should people feel happy that a company is making more and more money despite the perceived quality of their products becoming shittier? How the fuck does "Well, at least they're making money off of this" drown out the problems with their business practices/game design/whatever? This shows a fundamental misunderstanding of your role as a consumer at best, and some deep seated self-hating issues at worst.
-Other players' enjoyment of the game is completely, utterly irrelevant as far as debates on DRM go. If you're already capable of having fun with the game despite its DRM, again, good for you. And again, you're free to not even care about others. But nobody, on any level, is obliged to feel happy with how a game turned out just because somebody else is not having problems with it.
-You have no etc. The two reasons you listed before saying this were incredibly fallacious already.

But you, my friend. I'm going to put this out there, and it's probably going to offend you.

You have an inferiority complex.

..And what exactly am I feeling insecure about? You realise that that's what an inferiority complex is in a nutshell, insecurity?

Don't worry. At this point I'm convinced that you don't have the capacity to offend me.

Throughout this thread, you've sought adverserial conflict and now that I've made myself a target, you've started thumping your chest and playing subtle ad hominem attacks most likely in an effort to disguise your own subversive intentions. Oh, I'm completely aware my ad hominem was not subtle. Not even in the slightest.

Get a grip, pal. Seriously. Take a step back and go re-read your own antagonistic posts.

That persecution complex is so there I can almost taste it. You made yourself a target, you poor poor martyr. I hope I haven't offended you with my subtle ad hominem attacks and subversive intentions. What subversive intentions are we talking about, again? Are we talking about the fact that I find your reasoning to be completely and utterly fallacious and unstructured and so I wish to point it out? What am I trying to subvert here, exactly?

On a less sarcastic note, I am aware that my tone usually comes off as shrill, but that's just the way my mind functions. Grow a thicker skin, stop playing the victim and address the points I make. I have no interest in hearing your whines about "adversarial conflict" (redundancy, by the way) or my "antagonism".

By the way, every conversation that was ever held on this earth, that included actual opposing views, was antagonistic. Without exception. You're wrong in thinking that you said something negative about me in using that word. There's no reason whatsoever for me to reread any of my posts. Certainly not because you think I should.

Greg Waller:
Anyway, I'm done with you, troll. And not because I concede this conversation in any way, but rather, because if I continue this I'm positive I'll violate the codes of conduct on this forum, assuming I haven't already (which would probably be a stretch).

I feel sorry for you man. I really do. And that's me being completely honest.

Yeah yeah yeah, heard that before. Establish my falsity on anything I said and then we're having a conversation about how I'm pitiful. Jumping around with complete non-sequiturs and jabs at how you perceive my personality isn't going to get you anywhere.

Anoni Mus:
I heard you could make money from this game. How much could a guy do playing 8 hours a day, 6 days a week?

I'd say it's impossible to gauge it before the game has come out. Some people, I imagine, will look at the prices of D2 items, but those really won't be indicative of anything because the scale of trade in D3 will be immensely bigger.

Don't expect anything much for a second. But just as a wild guess, let's say 20 bucks a week? Note that I'm practically expecting one really good drop a day, which is probably completely unrealistic.