EA Blames Casuals For Falling Old Republic Subscriber Numbers

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Freechoice:

Kungfu_Teddybear:
Then I take that part back, but not the rest.

That's fine, cuz you're still wrong about it. If you didn't get the joke (or more likely, didn't want to) that's your goddamn fault. Don't give me shit because you have a problem with the way Americans spell a word (on an American site referencing an American game). And if you have a problem with the word fuck, well that's too fucking bad. It wasn't hostile. Hostile would have been calling him an culturally imperialist retard. Which I didn't.

I don't have a problem with they way Americans spell anything, nor was that why I got involved in the first place. No, I got involved because your first post came across as hostile (I don't have a problem with the word fuck, or any other swear word for that matter, but the way you used it in your post made it seem hostile) and then blamed Zhukov for starting it and then later proceeding to call him a pedantic anglophone. You were the one who started ranting then blamed someone else for starting it. That is why I got involved.

Even the post I have just quoted makes you look hostile. I've seen you around in other threads and you've seemed quite pleasant but in this one you have just seemed angry.

Beautiful End:
How does the box art for Medal of Honor look in the UK? Does it read "Medal of Honour"? In this instance, adding a U WOULD be misspelling it unless it looks different.

C'mon, it's a damned word and people write based on their mother tongue, not on the cover of the game.

It was a joke about people being used to write things in some way. They spent years trying not to misspell things in school, it doesn't wear off.

ITT: a joke turned into a nationalistic argument

"Blame" seems to be an inaccurate interpretation of what he said. It's an observation, not necessarily assigning fault to anything. I'm unsurprised by it myself. It's totally expected for any MMO at launch that it will attract more initial subscribers than will end up sticking with it through the first 4-6 months. Especially with Star Wars, you're just going to get a lot of initial subscribers who come for a taste, but were never going to stay for the long haul, regardless of whether the game is good or bad. Once the initial wave of short-timers comes and goes (now it appears it has gone) then you really start to see what kind of product you have. If the numbers start going up again, then people are liking it. If numbers continue to decline, then you're losing the people who you might have kept with a better and more sustainable product.

Kungfu_Teddybear:

Freechoice:

Kungfu_Teddybear:
Then I take that part back, but not the rest.

That's fine, cuz you're still wrong about it. If you didn't get the joke (or more likely, didn't want to) that's your goddamn fault. Don't give me shit because you have a problem with the way Americans spell a word (on an American site referencing an American game). And if you have a problem with the word fuck, well that's too fucking bad. It wasn't hostile. Hostile would have been calling him an culturally imperialist retard. Which I didn't.

I don't have a problem with they way Americans spell anything, nor was that why I got involved in the first place. No, I got involved because your first post came across as hostile (I don't have a problem with the word fuck, or any other swear word for that matter, but the way you used it in your post made it seem hostile) and then blamed Zhukov for starting it and then later proceeding to call him a pedantic anglophone. You were the one who started ranting then blamed someone else for starting it. That is why I got involved.

Even the post I have just quoted makes you look hostile. I've seen you around in other threads and you've seemed quite pleasant but in this one you have just seemed angry.

Are you sure you've been reading my posts? Are you really sure? Cuz I'm caustic as fuck. Half of what I say is accusing people of being stupid and narrow minded (making blanket statements, not citing shit, not reading what I said, being ignorant of facts you can find on google). I am often an asshole when responding in this manner because I know people won't respond to the logic I will spend 30 minutes (googling, rereading) formulating the post with. The key then is to just exhaust them.

It usually works.

The other half is topical humor in which I make referential humor in reference to the topic at hand with references. Referential humor that only about 1/30 of the population here seems to get. Now which does my original post seem most like?

With me, civility begets civility. Hence why I'm not saying fuck a lot right now. Having an excellent post will often garner the poster a cookie.

Also,

ElPatron:

Beautiful End:
How does the box art for Medal of Honor look in the UK? Does it read "Medal of Honour"? In this instance, adding a U WOULD be misspelling it unless it looks different.

C'mon, it's a damned word and people write based on their mother tongue, not on the cover of the game.

It was a joke about people being used to write things in some way. They spent years trying not to misspell things in school, it doesn't wear off.

ITT: a joke turned into a nationalistic argument

Yeah, I figured as much. That was just meant to satisfy my curiosity. I know some box art changes depending on the region and I find that interesting... *Mumbles*

kajinking:
Think I'll just stick with EVE online, casuals don't honestly exist in that game.

People who enjoy fun don't exist in that game.

OT: Just go free to play already EA, that's your best chance.

Free to play or not its not going to help at all if your games shit heard some horror stories from some ex guildies.

30 - 40 people from my old Warhammer online server moved to swtor to set up a guild on a pvp focussed server, 2 or 3 of whom I actually know and they all came back to war saying the same thing "Never again" nice way to waste 400 million EA ^_^

From my experience with the game, this is exactly the opposite of what I would expect. All of my hardcore friends have dropped this game because it's boring as fuck at max level. It's a WoW clone, except everything at max level is strictly worse than it's WoW equivalent right now. Plus, NO ADDONS. Deal breaker.

The leveling up part of the game was easily the best part. Great characters, great stories for the most part. I have no idea why anyone would Sub to this for more than the 2 months or so it takes to level a few characters.

I still plan to pick the game up for another month or two soon, once they implement addons. It's a really great single player experience. It simply has no longevity. That's a pretty damning complaint for an MMO.

Alright, so first it was just whiners, then it was homophobes, then it was gamers with "entitlement issues" (I'm not going to just say entitled because that's the wrong fucking word for what they were trying to describe), and now it's casuals.

Keep blaming everybody but yourself, EA! I'm sure it will end up working in your favour.

So they first blamed hardcore gamers for blazing through and leaving too fast, than homophobes, and now casuals?

Whats new?

All in all I hope TOR ends up going down in the annals of history as a moderate success, and I hope it encourages EA to aim higher and even after all this Mass Effect ending mess I still have tons of good will towards BioWare and I'd hate to think they took a gamble on a project and lost.

I admit to being torn here. There are two messages I want SW:TOR to convey to the industry:

1. You can't beat WoW by cloning WoW's gameplay and interface

2. The emphasis on narrative, characters and storytelling can make a better MMO.

There's no way to say this without sounding like a fanboy but I think Guild Wars 2 takes both lessons to heart. *Fingers Crossed*

Its not the casuals that left its the exact opposite. The hardcores left cos they hardcored their way through what little content there is. The casuals are still playing cos they only have 1 or 2 50s and haven't got sick of the boring, repetitive, linear content yet.

1.3 is not even a content patch so there is still not much of it and the hardcores will/have left. The only way you can be a hardcore at TOR is if you have memory lapses so you can forget the story and play it again and forget that you have done the dailies 50 bazillion times already, still trying to get all the legacy unlocks and save up for future ones cos there is no other way to make money cos there is no economy, so you will think its your first day doing them.

Feriluce:
Played 200 hours of TOR in my free month, so I hardly played it casually, but didnt keep subbing. It was just wow in space.

That's what I've heard, and since I'm playing WoW now, I'm not about to jump over to another pay-to-play game.

They're ging to lose an even larger number of subscribers once Mists of Panderia comes out, too.

"Of course they're more important than PGA Golf, the new water cooler in the lounge is more important than that"

Zhukov:
Medal of Honor made money?

Must... not... add... "u"... to... "honor"

IT'S A SPY! KILL THE SPY!

anyway, So EA said something asstarded. This is not news

EA has been a howling pack of nitwits since at LEAST the gamecube era, if not before then.

Yeah, casuals. I have six or seven friends, and I, who all dropped playing sw:tor for various reasons. Not because we were casual gamers, but because of the DRM Origin and the fact that the mmo sucked.

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