DC Says One Of Its"Iconic" Heroes Is Gay

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Duh, it's clearly Apollo and Midnighter:

(I don't really read DC comics but I read a lot of Wildstorm after being hooked on Warren Ellis' Authority)

So they've been wearing full-body leotards for years... and now they're coming out?

Pssst, we already knew.

Elate:

Antari:
This will go over about as well as Online DRM. They couldn't have come up with a new superhero? They had to change an existing one. Alienating part of those readers, so another group of readers can feel better about themselves. Great choice DC!

Yes, because you're equally alienated when Catwoman likes men, why can't she like women too!? Shut up.

In all seriousness, this is insulting, it's most likely going to be green lantern, because god forbid Batman would like the penis.

Actually I haven't read a comic book in years. But the point still stands, theres absolutely no reason to "change" an existing character just because a few people whine about something. If they wanted to introduce that theme they could just have easily come up with a new superhero. Its not like it would be a significant challange. But taking an existing character and making some "additions" to the back story is lame beyond description.

Please not Aquaman... Please please please. XD

arc1991:

Frontastic:
Didn't Grant Morrison recently say he thinks Batman is probably gay? And if you look at him as a character it makes a lot of sense. Batman being gay really wouldn't bug me, sexuality is really not a big deal. People need to understand that pulling stuff like this doesn't help make sexuality less of a big deal, it makes it a bigger deal.

If it is Bats I just hope they don't make it into his sole character trait. Sexuality is incidental, leave it that way.
Although this would make for some very interesting Joker storylines in the future. Preying on Batman's sexual weakness always makes for Joker's most interesting moments.

I can just imagine Riddlers new line...

"Riddle me this, Riddle me that, who's afraid of the homosexual bat"?

And Joker... "Well look who it is, It's my dearest friend, I'm flattered you were thinking of me Bat's but i don't swing that way"...

Lets face it, if it was him the villains would have a field day considering 70% of them make wise ass jokes...

Actually yeah Riddler could be interesting, as would Catwoman.

But Joker wouldn't even need to be changed. He always seems to have been operating as if Batman was gay. Doesn't Arkham City have that line after the blood transfussion where Joker says something like "you've got what you always wanted, a little bit of me inside you". There are so many little throw away lines like that in City and Asylum.

Blind Sight:
Duh, it's clearly Apollo and Midnighter:

(I don't really read DC comics but I read a lot of Wildstorm after being hooked on Warren Ellis' Authority)

Already in the relaunch, already gay. They're in Stormwatch, if you're remotely interested in their continued goings-on.

DVS BSTrD:

Gorilla Gunk:
Come one, we all know it's going to be Aquaman.

But they specifically state it will be an "Iconic" Superhero.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! That's a burn folks.

Anyways, I personally hope it's going to be Batman (I mean come on!) but I imagine it's going to be Wonderwomam or someone like that. I just think Batman is too obvious and in all honesty, it would probably make a large part of his fanbase angry--at least the casual ones who only know him from the movies.

On the other hand, it would be a the whole Batman/Robin thing offers a great way to show how two dudes could live together and not be gay. It would be like Bert and Ernie, except with more sexy violence.

I should probably check up on the whole reboot thing before I start making claims about this though.

Frontastic:
Didn't Grant Morrison recently say he thinks Batman is probably gay? And if you look at him as a character it makes a lot of sense. Batman being gay really wouldn't bug me, sexuality is really not a big deal. People need to understand that pulling stuff like this doesn't help make sexuality less of a big deal, it makes it a bigger deal.

If it is Bats I just hope they don't make it into his sole character trait. Sexuality is incidental, leave it that way.
Although this would make for some very interesting Joker storylines in the future. Preying on Batman's sexual weakness always makes for Joker's most interesting moments.

Batman's not gay. He's a furry.

He's like 2 steps away from a fursuit.

Therumancer:
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Heterosexuality and homosexuality are not mutually exclusive, that's what bisexuality is.

J03bot:

Blind Sight:
Duh, it's clearly Apollo and Midnighter:

(I don't really read DC comics but I read a lot of Wildstorm after being hooked on Warren Ellis' Authority)

Already in the relaunch, already gay. They're in Stormwatch, if you're remotely interested in their continued goings-on.

I'm well aware, that was the joke (they're pretty much designed as a riff on the Superman and Batman bromance). Pretty sure they're married too.

Gay batman plz. Bearing in mind, batboy has been portrayed as somewhat gay before.

Antari:
Actually I haven't read a comic book in years. But the point still stands, theres absolutely no reason to "change" an existing character just because a few people whine about something. If they wanted to introduce that theme they could just have easily come up with a new superhero. Its not like it would be a significant challange. But taking an existing character and making some "additions" to the back story is lame beyond description.

Yet they do it all the time with loads of other little details, and I don't remember ANYONE whining about anything, in fact, this thing usually causes more whining than it does pander to it so that point is mute.

What they are doing is trying to stay relevant to the modern age by shoe horning in something which probably won't fit with the character in the slightest, since they seem to have a terrible way of writing any relationship. Still doesn't alienate anyone, so no, your point doesn't stand, you said people were being alienated, are they also being alienated with heterosexual relationships in comics since they don't apply to them either? I mean, I doubt anyone is doing to end up with Lois Lane however hard they might wish.

John Funk:
I can't shake the feeling that this is little more than a stunt.

That's what I thought when I read this on another site, I don't follow comics so it won't really effect me. I'd rather see a new hero/heroine created from the ground up as it will have fans of whichever hero it is split for and against the preference switch.

This is getting a lot of hate, and I understand why. I mean sure, it seems like a stunt, and it might very well serve as that too.

But the thing is, I'm glad they're doing this. I think it's smart.
Back when these characters were made, you just couldn't publish a gay superhero. It wouldn't happen. Now these characters are iconic and the most well known of DC's universe. What better time to make a change like this than a reboot?

Sure, sure, I know people are saying "Why not make a new character?" but... Well, first of all they have. Bunker in the new Teen Titans is gay, and the DC assimilated Stormwatch run is doing a very good job on the Apollo/Midnighter romance. Batwoman is sticking around as a lesbian superhero.
Secondly, making a new character who is gay just isn't going to change much. They'll probably just sink into the depths of obscurity. It wouldn't change how we think of homosexuality in comic books.

I think it's a great idea to take an established character who is an iconic part of DC and make them gay. It's a slight change, and if DC handles it like Paul Cornell or Scott Lobdell did with their gay characters, then it should be easy to pull it off in a way that's respectful and, well... Classy.

Also, I doubt it's Aquaman, since his wife is already in his book.
Honestly I think Batman fits this role best. He just can't seem to settle and has meaningless uncommitted over-compensating women sex. Who knows how much of it is just his Bruce Wayne persona?

I'd like it to be Flash as I'm already collecting that book, but he seems hung up on Patty Spivot and Iris West.

A gay Wonder Woman would be cool. I'd like that best, probably. Then again, I don't see why she'd leave Paradise Island if she was ;D

Well, Batman is gay. They might "out" some other character, but I don't see the point since they already have a perfectly fine major gay character, so why not roll with him?

Gorilla Gunk:
Come one, we all know it's going to be Aquaman.

So do I, just to draw it away from Batman.

Nothing wrong with gay Batman, but it would make it more obviously contrived to make Batman gay. Plus they say he's "openly gay". Which even if it's Captain Jack Harkness style, as opposed to making him stereotypically flaming, still kind of puts up an antithesis to his established personality.

Plus there's that whole Robin thing...

DVS BSTrD:
I always wondered why they called him Martian "Man Hunter".

I admit, I lol'd. This would be quite hilarious if it was him.

MammothBlade:
Gay batman plz. Bearing in mind, batboy has been portrayed as somewhat gay before.

I really hope that isn't true. If so, whoever made that mistake is an idiot, or just likes disgusting puns ("batty boy" is a homophobic slur).

Binnsyboy:

MammothBlade:
Gay batman plz. Bearing in mind, batboy has been portrayed as somewhat gay before.

I really hope that isn't true. If so, whoever made that mistake is an idiot, or just likes disgusting puns ("batty boy" is a homophobic slur).

Batboy wasn't used offensively, if I did I'd be slurring myself.

It would just make the most sense.

Elate:

Antari:
Actually I haven't read a comic book in years. But the point still stands, theres absolutely no reason to "change" an existing character just because a few people whine about something. If they wanted to introduce that theme they could just have easily come up with a new superhero. Its not like it would be a significant challange. But taking an existing character and making some "additions" to the back story is lame beyond description.

Yet they do it all the time with loads of other little details, and I don't remember ANYONE whining about anything, in fact, this thing usually causes more whining than it does pander to it so that point is mute.

What they are doing is trying to stay relevant to the modern age by shoe horning in something which probably won't fit with the character in the slightest, since they seem to have a terrible way of writing any relationship. Still doesn't alienate anyone, so no, your point doesn't stand, you said people were being alienated, are they also being alienated with heterosexual relationships in comics since they don't apply to them either? I mean, I doubt anyone is doing to end up with Lois Lane however hard they might wish.

Forcing gay rights onto other people is just as wrong as forcing hetrosexual rights onto them. No, you don't see people getting up in arms over a hetrosexual relationship being shoehorned into a character's lives, because it doesn't happen, this is the exception to the rule. And yes changing little details is fine, but someone's sexual orientation is not what I would call a little detail. It affects how they live life, its major. Changing a major aspect of a character people have known for years, will alienate some of them. DC would have been smarter to create a new hero with a new story to tell. This reworking things because of political correctness is just outright destruction, nothing more.

Family Guy pointed out that Tom Cruise is constanly running in movies to get away from his gay thoughts.

Following this logic, I am going to guess that it is the Flash.

Superman is possible since the New 52 reboot put a pin in Lois and Clark's relationship. However, I believe they are more likely working a Superman Wonder Woman relationship instead.

Green Arrow is unlikely due to Black Canary.

Hale Jorden. Possible, and would explain his relationship to Carol and explain what turned her into a Hate Filled Star Sapphire better. (Gaydar fail coupled with rejection)

Batman. Maybe but only in the 60's. I'd put him in the "ASexual"(not Sexual) category as he's been in recent years.

Flash. Maybe, but only because I can hardly describe any of his relationships.

Aqua Man. Kinda cliche. I mean really the Prince is Gay? How many times has that been done? Not to mention the problems that would cause with the Royal Family.

I'd say it's Flash, he looks very vibrant in his costume.

I have never read a dc comic in my life.
And yet I'm going to bet it'll be The Flash.

Why? Because I think dc thinks they can get away with it. And they can get away with calling him iconic.
I would be impressed if it was Batman though. It's long overdue, what with Robin and all.

God. The fact that this is getting any attention is beyond sad. The correct response:-

"One of our heroes is gay!"

"And? Oh, you consider being gay a big deal? That's cute."

I'm sure some are straight, too. You gonna have them "come out" as hetero?

Treblaine:

Therumancer:
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Heterosexuality and homosexuality are not mutually exclusive, that's what bisexuality is.

You didn't read my post very well. I myself mentioned that before this article I had been reading that the exactly sexuality was not disclosed and it was going to be LGBT, which lead me to saying my initial assumptions were that Wonder Woman was going to be outed as being Bi. I also mentioned Swift as a DC/Wildstorm character who is Bi already.

That said, this article (as other responses have picked up on) is saying that the statement is that an iconic DC character will be Gay, which means interested only in men. This being opposed to Lesbian or Bi-sexuality. Something that would be hard to reconcile with any of the iconic male characters without some ridiculous amounts of retconning, that in some cases could bring the entire continuity into question given some of the motivations in play.

Even if they went "bi" which I was omitting for a reason, as I explained, understand that DC is a universe where we've had numerous situations where villains have literally learned everythibng about a hero (even if they later forgot it) and then kidnapped their true love to leverage them, likewise we've had characters beat overwhelming odds while saying the name of their loved one and so on. If you were to suddenly say any one of these characters was secretly gay and nobody noticed, using their girlfriends as a beard (as the only way to justify it) up until this point, you'd have to question why they would be saying a girls' name for strength, or why some of these villains didn't kidnap their boyfriend, etc...

As I said it's a stunt, a bad idea being used to get attention, it's not something that could be justified with characters this established. DC is also not a company that really has anything to prove on these grounds to begin with, which is one of the reasons why it's such an obvious stunt. Despite my overall opinions, I have frequently referanced "The Authority" as being one of my favorite comic series of all time (along with things like Gen-13 and other Wildstorm titles). We've even had crossovers from Wildstorm into the DC universe, firmly setting it as an alternate dimension that can bleed into DC. They really don't need to do this to say "prove they are as politically correct, and hip, as marvel" since they arguably did it better than Marvel did when they "outed" Northstar many years ago.

That said, if they did want to do the whole bi- thing, I suppose they could reveal that Superman and Batman had an affair between other things, but that wouldn't be quite what they seem to be going for. This could be justified to an extent by "The Midnighter" and "Apolo" being the Wildstorm analogies to Superman and Batman and they are not only gay but married, so they could argue transdimensional inertia showing those tendencies were always there or whatever else. Of course "had a gay fling" isn't the same as wanting to make a gay character to parade around which seems to be the intent.

Personally if I was in charge of DC right now, given the ups and downs with Wildstorm's success, I'd consider bringing some of the more popular characters like The Midnighter into the DC universe more or less permanantly. Granted that wouldn't be iconic, and characters like that who kill wouldn't fit in with the JLC, but it would acheive a similar effect without having to retcon things. Of course then again the retconning is exactly what is going to get the attention and make them the money... so you know... it isn't really about common sense.

Antari:
Forcing gay rights onto other people is just as wrong as forcing hetrosexual rights onto them. No, you don't see people getting up in arms over a hetrosexual relationship being shoehorned into a character's lives, because it doesn't happen, this is the exception to the rule. And yes changing little details is fine, but someone's sexual orientation is not what I would call a little detail. It affects how they live life, its major. Changing a major aspect of a character people have known for years, will alienate some of them. DC would have been smarter to create a new hero with a new story to tell. This reworking things because of political correctness is just outright destruction, nothing more.

1) They aren't forcing any gay rights onto anyone, they're making a character like men, not you, and you don't have to read it if you hate it so much. Besides, I don't think anyone ever had to fight for heterosexual rights in the first place did they? But that is a very messy topic, so lets not even go down there.

2) Movie bob did an entire episode on that wonder woman thing, I suggest you go watch it.

3) No.. It doesn't affect how anyone lives their life, it just affects who they sleep with. That's all, in reality this will probably amount to 1 or 2 strips about said partner as most of them do, before it's brushed under the carpet so that they can run around in tight bright spandex without any ball and chain.

The outright ignorance of your responses is kind of shocking frankly. The only part I can agree on is that it's pointless.

I can't say I'm pleased, nor displeased with DC's decision to turn one of their characters gay. I mean, I'm not against it, I have absolutely nothing agasint gay people, but I just can't shake the feeling that this is all a tasteless stunt, like an ADHD child begging for attention.

Bit of a stunt, but something of a progression: from side characters (Maggie sawyer, the pied piper) to second stringers (Batwoman, The Question), and now someone important. So place your bets:

Superman: low odds, but the thought of all those right wing pundants' heads exploding would be sooooo worth it.

Batman: Man's married to his work.

Wonder Woman: a safer bet given back story and demographic for comics.

Aquaman: Married / been married (I don't know his new 52 status) so anything would be a bad yaoi soap opera.

Flash: I supposed a possibilty, but as Superman has Lois Lane, he has Iris West.

Green Lantern (I assume Hal): Might explain his problems with Carol, but why give H.E.A.T. an excuse to re-form.

Matian Manhunter: Been married.

Green Arrow: Womanizing has been too central to the character.

Hawkman: Now there's a fun twist the star crossed, reincarnated lovers thing.

And a longshot guess: Maybe this is thier latest attempt to get people to read Power Girl.

It should be Wonder Woman - it's the only one that makes sense in-character.

But it will probably be Aquaman, or Hawkman, or Flash (is Flash still Wally West? I just remember him ogling Power Girl all the time in JLE, but that's probably been retconned out of existence... /sigh)

Making it the Martian Manhunter would be a really cheap shot.

I bet it's wonder woman.

I hope they do it in a classy way and it's not like 'hurr durr 2 women making out'. That would just be shameful.

If it's Batman I will cry and the straight women of the world will mourn with me.

I call shenanigans if it turns out to be Wonder Woman, because this would shift from political correctness to pandering. Would be sad.

FFS, people. As long as you keep pretending being gay is a big deal, the longer people will think it is. No one cares. Be gay. Be straight. Be bi. Be nonsexual. I don't care. It's real cute and all how you think making one of your characters gay is some big deal, but it's not. Go away. Your little stunt is a failure and you're shallow attempt at being edgy is about as awesome as a wet sandwich.

Stop making a big deal out of sexuality.

Want one of your characters to be gay? Fine. Go ahead. But why the fuck are you telling everyone like it matters? I'll wait for you to out some heroes as hetero, too. Oh, you won't do that? Didn't think so.

God I hate this crap.

/rant

Of course it isn't Batman. Don't be ridiculous. And it isn't Superman either. It's probably Aquaman.

my predictions are, either

the flash
batman
green lantern

they all fit in my limited understanding of comic book lore
whoever it is, ill be watching this space

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