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Exactly, the number of people using a RAM disc is in the extreme minority. | |
Windows 8 is coming out in only a 64-bit version, as far as I remember. So, as long as you upgrade when it works, or get a new computer, all will be good. I see DICE's point, and I'm totally with them, however, I do think that we need to upgrade the console's first, so that they can match the current PC tech levels. The PS3 only has 256MB of RAM, and that actually is starting to cause problems. Serious Sam 3 is currently unable to be ported easily, because of the RAM problems. The reason Battlefield 3 can have more players in a match on PC is because of the RAM. | |
I have 64 bit Windows 7, although I'm on a laptop with the i3 processor and 4.0 on graphics, so I doubt those games will be going anywhere near it. | |
Dice can talk about advances when it can get it's games to run smoothly on current technology. | |
Absolutely, consoles and Sony/Microsoft's desire to squeeze as much money as possible from 6 year old kit is holding all gaming back, no point in going 64bit if games are being made for DX9, 256mb and 20GB FAT32 drives. Might as well focus on iPhone gaming. | |
I found that using 4 gigs in win 7 64 worked pretty well, but once you can upgrade your motherboard to one that supports ddr 3, its pretty cheap to get allot of ram, I got 16 gigs for like 60 bucks. | |
It's £38 for 8GB of DDR3 RAM 1600MHZ at the moment, I am very tempted but not hugely sure 8GB makes much more difference than 4G? | |
Hate to burst your bubble, but I can do that with 3gb, on high, on my laptop. I've never seen the point in splashing out on 16gb of ram, nothing needs that much! That, and I'm pretty sure Skyrim is limited to 4gb of Ram anyway. | |
$60!?! I don't think I want your low quality HDMI cable to spoil the rich sound I receive from my Denon AKDL1 Dedicated Link Cable. Although, with your lower quality cable I might be able to re-compress all of my 320kbps Mp3's down to 192kbps. I'll be able to save at least 500MB! ;) | |
Well your system setup matters also but you should notice a decent sized difference when you move from 4 to 8 gigs, win 7 64 likes to use about 2 gigs of ram for background tasks so you will certainly notice a difference. Although at this point going over 8 gigs probably wont have much impact since no much out there can really use that much ram. | |
[quote="Worgen" post="7.376061.14623897] Well your system setup matters also but you should notice a decent sized difference when you move from 4 to 8 gigs, win 7 64 likes to use about 2 gigs of ram for background tasks so you will certainly notice a difference. Although at this point going over 8 gigs probably wont have much impact since no much out there can really use that much ram.[/quote] Nice one, I'll purchase now while it's so very cheap. Have Win7 64 so could be good. I am still stuck in 32 bit days when anything over 4GB vanished! : ) | |
Explaining tech to people like you is so difficult because you actually believe you know what those numbers mean. When the Wii U comes out and if it has the rumored chip on it, and only 1 gig or less of RAM you're going to claim that it's inferior to your 16 gigs of ram. If it has the rumored chip on it then it will actually be faster than any PC you could build with near unlimited funds. Because the 1 gig of ram will be on the chip, and thus increase the bandwidth to normally unheard of levels, and make utilizing 4 cores easy, instead of mind numbingly difficult, to code for. That 256 mb of Ram on the PS3 happens to be very fast and have very high bandwidth. Yea Skyrim has issues on the PS3, but only because Bathesda is a bunch of hacks who don't know how to do proper memory management, and instead waist 2 gigs or more of memory on things that shouldn't be in memory. Like 7 dragons on the other side of the world from the player. PC programmers are bad programmers because they do things like that and waist space. With windows 64 bit they were finally able to clear out the last of the 16 bit legacy code from windows. Old 16 bit code simple cannot run on it, and that code is from Windows 3.1. It will be a long time before anyone can strip out the old 32 bit code and by then the 64 bit code will be the problem. Consoles will always be faster than PCs with what appears to be far less hardware because they don't have to do stupid things to allow for backwards compatibility. That's the main reason why the PS3 is not backwards compatible with the PS2. The hardware to do it is too expensive and hampers the processor with things it doesn't need. | |
Incoming higher definition than real life graphics! D: | |
Battlefield 3 was devoleped with a high emphasis on making the PC version as good as it possibly could be, hence why the games graphics are crysis 1 quality on a decent PC , and why the Xbox 360 struggles with it somewhat. (and the ps3 to a lesser extent) On topic, I'm glad that things are starting to move forward into the 64 bit generation, it was going to happen eventually with pretty much every processor made in the last 4 or 5 years being 64 bit compatible. Though there may well be a outcry since people like to use what they know and trust like windows XP. (Even though 7 is a vastly improved OS ) | |
For the top 1% like your self we offer some diamond encrusted cables. The Diamonds turn you 320kbps files into 1024kbps files for you. ;P | |
Nice, one of the main disadvantages of my 64bit Ubuntu is that I can't play most games on it | |
1000% more practical to just avoid the game. | |
sudo apt-get install ia32-libs | |
I'm excited for the effect this can have on preloading. While this won't have much effect on initial loading of content, it can have a tremendous impact on preventing or reducing load necessary between levels or areas. Take a game like Portal 2, for example (not DICE, I know, just a good example here). It's divided into test chambers, and there are some rather irritating load times between them. But if the game had been designed to use more RAM, the game could theoretically play one level and fetch the next in the background, essentially eliminating all but the first load screen in a play session. It's unfortunate that the Source engine can't do this (and unlikely that it ever will; Source is finally starting to show its age), but I strongly suspect that's the direction that DICE is headed in here. It will be a pain for 32-bit users at first, but they're quickly shrinking in numbers. Not only has Windows 7 brought with it huge improvements in 64-bit drivers and compatibility, but Windows 8 is right around the corner and likely to bring another wave of converts with it. And with Adobe strongly pushing 64-bit in their latest software (Photoshop and Illustrator support it, Premiere Pro, After Effects, and Encore require it), people who use their PCs for work are far more likely to have it as well. Add the fact that prefab PCs from Dell, HP, etc are finally becoming readily available with 64-bit Windows by default... Let's just say that 32-bit operating systems are on their way out, and it won't be long before this isn't an issue anyway. I don't know how soon DICE plans on requiring 64-bit, but anybody with the hardware to play the games of 2014 is probably going to have a 64-bit OS to go with it anyway, so it's not going to be an issue. P.S. Thanks | |
It's good of DICE to do this but I hope Bethesda's next open world RPG will be 64-bit native. | |
I went from 4 GB to 12 GB and BF3's loading times have improved significantly. It also doesn't crash anymore when I alt-tab or when someone calls me on Skype. So I'm going to disagree with you here. :-) | |
You probably saw an improvement as you went from 4GB while playing BF3 which is a huge resource hog compared to the other poster who already had 8GB which would be enough for Skyrim and many other programs. | |
Tomorrow's news: CryTek responds by requiring a 256-bit engine, because fuck 32, 64, and even the presumed next step, and skip straight to the future. Goofy jokes aside, this is interesting. As more games come out, we're forcing people into better and better equipment. It's almost like we want them to keep buying the next best thing... | |
What? No way... Microsoft wouldn't do something like that... would they?
Had one since 2007. Vista too, and I haven't had any problems with this operatin' system ever. | |
I went from WinXP 32bit to Win7 64bit and honestly Im impressed I dont even know why i waited so long to upgrade. | |
I read that rumour before the whole patent war with Motorolla became so public, it would (conceivably) allow them to circumvent the ban. It would also save them a metric ton of cash on hardware manufacturing. | |
So I could play all of those 360 exclusives I'm missing out on with a Windows 8? Sweet. | |
Fucking finally. I've been 64 bit since windows XP 64-bit edition. | |
Exactly why I don't PC game very much outside of TL2 and Minecraft. I can't afford to soup up my computer yet again. Especially the processor, the most expensive component, since it forces you to replace your case as well. | |
About time. if even i have upgraded to 64 bit OS (and i was the one that clinged onto 98 till its death) the world is way overdue.
wrong. you can either change the processor itself. or if you arel ess tech savy change the motherboard. you dont need new case. also, processor is not the most expensive part. graphic card is.
more wont, but faster will. and the "big" ram chunks are likely to be fast now, rather than what people were to buy say 5 years ago. the difference between DDR2 and DDR3 is large, let alone the frequency. | |
Well the consoles always had too little RAM, which always confused me because RAM is cheap. Hopefully the next gen consoles will come out the gate with at least 8gb DDR3. OT yeah its about time i see the same benefits i do from photoshop :D | |
Guess whose games I'm not going to be playing then, with no intent to address this. Though to be fair, I probably wouldn't have played them anyway. | |
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Bah, my 4 year old computer has been able to run every single game that's come out since I got it without a single upgrade.
To upgrade it now would feel........wrong.