Mass Effect 3 Fans Will Find Closure June 26th

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DAMN IT! So the explanation for why Joker was flying the Normandy through a mass effect relay was that he was being a coward and somehow teleported my companions to him while at the same time leaving my apparent corpse behind?

Yeah that fits in with the overall thematic and narrative structure of the Mass Effect Trilogy just like the ending -_-

I'm not holding my breath. In fact I'm expecting a smoldering pile of manure.

See just how bad ME3 was opened my eyes to the steady drop in duality of their game since their acquisition by EA.

MortisLegio:

Spartan212:
First spoiler is out. Shitstorm has already begun

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12693643/1

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So they explain why Joker is acting out of character and being a coward. Bioware, I'll hold off my final opinion on the DLC until it comes out but it's already not looking good.

How are you getting "Joker is acting out of character and being a coward" Out of "Meet up at the Rendezvous point"?

HellenicWarrior:
DAMN IT! So the explanation for why Joker was flying the Normandy through a mass effect relay was that he was being a coward and somehow teleported my companions to him while at the same time leaving my apparent corpse behind?

Yeah that fits in with the overall thematic and narrative structure of the Mass Effect Trilogy just like the ending -_-

Again, where are you getting the "Being a coward" thing from? This is confusing me greatly.

Frozen Donkey Wheel2:

1. A better explanation of the Reaper's motivations. Right now, it doesn't make any fucking sense. As we all know. I'm not going to get into it.

That's actually the reason the ending fails in my opinion. Giving the Reapers a motivation is a BAD idea. The monster is always scarier when it is UNKNOWABLE. When you give the monster a motivation, it stops being scary. The Reapers should just kill and harvest us because that's just what they do.

Frozen Donkey Wheel2:

2. A better explanation of what the flying fuck that kid even IS. Is he a reaper? Is the Citadel? Is the the Citadel a Reaper? Is he the entire Reaper Hive Mind? All of the above? What the fuck is he? (Preferably something NOT stupid)

He's the AI that controls the Reapers. He says so much in the game. Hell, I think that's the clearest part of the entire "Bad" part of the ending.

Frozen Donkey Wheel2:

3. The removal of the bit where Joker ends up on a random planet. Barring total removal, I would at least like a better explanation for why he's running, how my squad got there, how he even SURVIVES, etc. But even if they explain all that, it won't stop that entire thing from being INCREDIBLY anti-climactic. So Joker has to bone my (lesbian) love interest to repopulate the species, huh? Gee, how fucking inspiring. Oh, and I guess Garrus get's to watch. He sure as hell has nothing better to do. Yeah, that's a great final moment of the series.

I do think they need to explain why squad members that were with you when you are rushing the Citadel beam are suddenly on the Normandy. That's about my only gripe with that scene.

Elamdri:

How are you getting "Joker is acting out of character and being a coward" Out of "Meet up at the Rendezvous point"?

At the risk of turning this into a full spoiler discussion thread

I wasn't expecting a firm release date until July, so finding out it'll be available for download in less than four days is great. I wasn't impressed with the ending to Mass Effect 3 so hopefully this... makes the glaring plot holes a little less... glaring?

Regardless, I'm just hoping it'll help but I'm not expecting a miracle.

Elamdri:

MortisLegio:

Spartan212:
First spoiler is out. Shitstorm has already begun

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12693643/1

image

So they explain why Joker is acting out of character and being a coward. Bioware, I'll hold off my final opinion on the DLC until it comes out but it's already not looking good.

How are you getting "Joker is acting out of character and being a coward" Out of "Meet up at the Rendezvous point"?

Joker wouldn't ever abandon Shepard. No matter if it meant risking the ship, crew, or himself. Joker would stay if not try to pick up Shepard. He wouldn't get an order to run, say "Yes sir." and fly off unless Shepard ordered him to. Now if that happens in the DLC, cool but by that screenshot we get order to run and in the already made ending Joker runs. That's also why I said I will wait to make my final opinion until I play/see it. But by that one screen it's not looking like this ending is going to make (most) people happy.

Frankster:

Elamdri:

How are you getting "Joker is acting out of character and being a coward" Out of "Meet up at the Rendezvous point"?

At the risk of turning this into a full spoiler discussion thread

MortisLegio:

Elamdri:

How are you getting "Joker is acting out of character and being a coward" Out of "Meet up at the Rendezvous point"?

Joker wouldn't ever abandon Shepard. No matter if it meant risking the ship, crew, or himself. Joker would stay if not try to pick up Shepard. He wouldn't get an order to run, say "Yes sir." and fly off unless Shepard ordered him to. Now if that happens in the DLC, cool but by that screenshot we get order to run and in the already made ending Joker runs. That's also why I said I will wait to make my final opinion until I play/see it. But by that one screen it's not looking like this ending is going to make (most) people happy.

But what about the ending of Mass Effect 2 where Shepard dies? He just falls from the Normandy and Joker ABANDONS him!?!?

*eye roll*

I don't think this can be interpreted as Joker "Abandoning" Shepard. There are far too many unknowns to be making conjectures like that.

Elamdri:

MortisLegio:

Elamdri:

How are you getting "Joker is acting out of character and being a coward" Out of "Meet up at the Rendezvous point"?

Joker wouldn't ever abandon Shepard. No matter if it meant risking the ship, crew, or himself. Joker would stay if not try to pick up Shepard. He wouldn't get an order to run, say "Yes sir." and fly off unless Shepard ordered him to. Now if that happens in the DLC, cool but by that screenshot we get order to run and in the already made ending Joker runs. That's also why I said I will wait to make my final opinion until I play/see it. But by that one screen it's not looking like this ending is going to make (most) people happy.

But what about the ending of Mass Effect 2 where Shepard dies? He just falls from the Normandy and Joker ABANDONS him!?!?

*eye roll*

I don't think this can be interpreted as Joker "Abandoning" Shepard. There are far too many unknowns to be making conjectures like that.

Oh, you mean where Shepard TELLS Joker to run? I said the only person that could have Joker leave Shepard behind is Shepard. Also, I said I haven't made up my mind on it yet (because we don't know the entirety of the scene) but with what knowledge we have it isn't looking good.

Elamdri:

im like a lot of people in that im in two minds with this as to watch it on youtube or play it. pretty bad that ive gone from being a fan of bioware to not trusting them

Well lets see what biowEAre have done. Personally as a writer myself I found the ending to be badly written.
It's a weak Deus Ex Machina; something that you come up with in a drunken stupor.
The concept could have worked if they had added a bit more variety and some actual storytelling. If they would have put in a little effort and did more than just change the color of the explosion.

So I hope that is what these 1.9 gigs contain.

I'm a little hopeful but for the rest a cold hearted skeptical

Spartan212:

malakaira:

Spartan212:
First spoiler is out. Shitstorm has already begun

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12693643/1

okay well that crushed what little hopes down of what I had for the Extended Cut down to a pebble stone.

still I hope the internet gets angry at bioware at even a 5th the amount they did with the original ending because last time was so hilarious.

And this should turn that stone into sand

Re: Length of DLC

https://twitter.com/JessicaMerizan/status/216297244826157057

I have an usettling feeling that the sand will be sucked into my vacuum cleaner along with a broken Mass effect 3 disc

for more clarification here's the said image.
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And why the hell does Hackett want Joker to leave the Sol system?
We'll just to find out when EC comes out.

(capcha: kiss me) Bioware better not screw this up or they can kiss my ass.

MortisLegio:

Elamdri:

MortisLegio:

Joker wouldn't ever abandon Shepard. No matter if it meant risking the ship, crew, or himself. Joker would stay if not try to pick up Shepard. He wouldn't get an order to run, say "Yes sir." and fly off unless Shepard ordered him to. Now if that happens in the DLC, cool but by that screenshot we get order to run and in the already made ending Joker runs. That's also why I said I will wait to make my final opinion until I play/see it. But by that one screen it's not looking like this ending is going to make (most) people happy.

But what about the ending of Mass Effect 2 where Shepard dies? He just falls from the Normandy and Joker ABANDONS him!?!?

*eye roll*

I don't think this can be interpreted as Joker "Abandoning" Shepard. There are far too many unknowns to be making conjectures like that.

Oh, you mean where Shepard TELLS Joker to run? I said the only person that could have Joker leave Shepard behind is Shepard. Also, I said I haven't made up my mind on it yet (because we don't know the entirety of the scene) but with what knowledge we have it isn't looking good.

No way man, Joker is so loyal to Shepard that he wouldn't even abandon Shepard for Shepard! Wait. Where were we going with this?

My point is that I think the community (As usually) is running around like a panicky, bunch of pillocks without stopping to even think. Let the damn DLC come out before starting the inevitable QQ at the very least.

Frankster:

Elamdri:

Yeah, THAT one is going to take some fixing.

Iterations that require separate games to see?? Milk the franchise? Yes please, EA! And there it is, but it doesn't matter to me why the ending is what it is. It still harvests organic civilizations.

Captcha: make a bee-line

What a cop out. Goes to show - if geeks cry hard enough, companies like Bioware will bend over and take it sans lube.

hmm, either i get it in a few days in hong kong or i have to wait till the 4th of july my self. im really wondering how much they will answer in this DLC. very last chance for me to keep the games all together.

My only question is: Will I have to grind multiplayer for assets to get the best ending again? I mean, not that the multiplayer is terrible, it's just so.... grindy. That and the idea that I won't be able to get the best ending a couple years down the road because no one's gonna play the multiplayer anymore makes me kinda angry already.

Nah, too late. EA wanted to axe mass effect as a franchise with the original ending so let them reap their rewards for it. EA has no more franchises to care about, the company is a joke.

At 1.9 gigs it will be some massive epilogue scenes.

I wasn't overly disappointed with the ending in ME3, so unless I still don't get to see what happened to my squad maates as well as more epic space battle scenes, it'll be nothing but an improvement to me.

All I'm hoping for is that the explain things a bit more, add an epilogue, and plug the plot holes. Looks like I'll be getting that. Call it cautious optimism.

I honestly care very little for this. In fact I'll just end up watching it on youtube, cba to finish that final mission again.

I'm sure everyone's excited for the game fix that they stated will not fix any of the problems that have people complaining in the first place.
Expect the worst.

Still Life:
A case of 'damned if they do, damned if they don't'. I'm looking forward to seeing what is being offered, but there will still be lots of rage on the forums.

It will never be enough for some.

Personally, I didn't have an issue with the various endings, aside from the infamous Normandy scene and it coming out of nowhere.

tbh it wont be enough because its still the same ending with a little but extra, maybe its enough to explain it to be good but i doubt it

So, are we actually getting closure or is it going to be some sort of End of Evangelion thing?

So it's like getting shit, then shitting on the shit?

....so hard not to geek out...

Ahh screw it. I'm SO excited about this. By the time I finished ME3 I was so emotionally invested in my entire group that the idea of having more closure makes me giddy!

Game is good but ending does not have the same high standard and this DLC will probably not solve that much except the lack of rage since about a month after launch... And I listened to their promo vid or what ever it might have been...
They might have listened to the players but I don't think they actually understood anything because they sounded like a bad politicians defending a stupid decision...

But really no one cares it was a magnificent series with a terrible choice of ending, and therefore many will forget most about ME.

I'm actually looking forward to this. My only real criticism of the endings was that they seemed too short and that none of your decisions seemed to matter.

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