EA Wants "To Be 90 Plus Metacritic at Everything"

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"There are better mousetraps that ultimately get built out of this innovation," he continued, "and the only way you get to the innovation is to have other people try and do a better version of what someone has previously done. And that's what we're attempting to do on Origin."

He needs to become a bit more familiar with the definition of innovation because he just described iteration. Sure iteration tends to mean some small level of innovation occurs, but when you're starting out 5 years behind the curve, all I can say is good luck with catching up.

Even better though is the fact that he expects innovation on the level of Facebook can come from EA despite plenty of evidence that corporate giants do not make giant leaps forward 90% of the time unless they happen to be complete management outliers like Valve or Google. EA as it exists today will never out-Valve Valve unless Valve stops running the way it does. Large bureaucratic companies like EA which value profit before innovation are too big, slow, and stifling to do anything creative, and those three things have been EA's personal slogan more than ever in the last few years.

Grey Carter:
"and the only way you get to the innovation is to have other people try and do a better version of what someone has previously done. And that's what we're attempting to do on Origin."

Would be nice if they could get their current services up to par then. Innovation isn't going to happen if what you're offering isn't even half comparable to what else is on the market. It's absolutely pitiful the state Origin was released in, especially from a company with so much money and personnel to throw around. Been months and I still don't consider it even passable.

Grey Carter:
David DeMartini, claims the fact that Newell is even talking about Origin is a good sign.

I can't help but laugh at the desperation seeping from that statement.

Competition is always good in a capitalist market.

Clearing the Eye:
Competition is always good in a capitalist market.

Now go tell that to EA so that they'll let go of the Madden license and let other devs make Football titles again.

Making any kind of snide comment now about EA is like making fun of a down syndrome kid in your class who wants to be your friend

Metalix Knightmare:

Clearing the Eye:
Competition is always good in a capitalist market.

Now go tell that to EA so that they'll let go of the Madden license and let other devs make Football titles again.

Madden is not the football genre.

VanTesla:

Fappy:

Realitycrash:
Stop. Making. Metacritic. Matter. Assholes.

Amen to that. Metacritic is a consumer tool, not an automatic stamp of success/failure.

Also it being as reliable as a piece of dung...

That's giving it too much credit.

Because Metacritic matters. Well... apparently it does. Which is sad.

So you want to be Facebook to Myspace?
Well, you need to actually be better for that to happen.
And why the hell are you trying to be good at Metacritic? That's like winning an arm wrestling contest against the weakest kid in school, not very useful in the long run.
More and more I see them as the Spike TV of videogames, and that saddens me greatly.

hensethe1:
Just bought a game through Origin today. Can't start downloading before 24 hours has passed because they need to verify the payment, though the payment has been drawn from my account. This never happened using steam, never will

To be fair if the money's not in your account Valve already gave you the game so they'll just permaban you for it.

Kalezian:
But, yea, in many ways GoG is better than Steam while Steam is better than GoG if that makes any sense, while both are better than Origin.

Steam has that whole "community" thing going on, while GOG has "we're nice", Thief, and no DRM in sight.

Long term, GOG looks like winning simply because being nice gets points. The community can switch. Like WoW which dominated the MMO area for years, it's starting to lose out and other games are coming to the fore. It is possible to topple giants, it just takes a bit of effort.

Oh wow. EA really needs to learn a little something called humility and take the time to be critically observant. This is just getting them nowhere in the long run and it seems they'll realise too little too late.

I'm laughing. I got battlefield 3 for cheap off a friend who didn't even want to open his PC copy. Using Origin proved to me that they have no idea what they're doing.

QQ moar, EA.

Grey Carter:
EA Wants "To Be 90 Plus Metacritic at Everything"
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"If MySpace had stayed the one answer in social networking and no one switched to Facebook, then we'd all be stuck on MySpace right now and we wouldn't have had the Facebook phenomenon," he said.

The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club.

Now hang on. Origin made $140 million or the games made $140 million?

"A creative man is motivated by the desire to achieve, not by the desire to beat others."
-Ayn Rand-

Somebloke:

animehermit:

Oh yeah? then why did it deny me from going offline the other day? At best it's a 50/50 chance that the offline mode actually works.

I guess there are kinks to straighten out.
Personally I have never had any problem - if I start Steam without an internet connection, it will pop up a requester asking whether to continue in offline mode and that has been that.
Only titles that I have been unable to run at such times are those that require some sort of connection to any additional authenticator, on top of from Steam, such as the EA network, for the Dragon Age games and Mass Effect 2.

both of which are able to be played while you aren't online. I know because I've done it before with all 3 games, as well as Mass Effect 3.

Glademaster:

Really you read that as healthy competition? Healthy competition would be making the comparison we want to be the Coke to Steam's Pepsi(I forget which came first but you get the idea).

Comparing it as Facebook to Myspace clearly shows they want a monopoly or a sheer, overwhelming and dominating piece of the market that is at current untouchable. None of what he said rings healthy marketplace and cheaper prices to me.

You need to compete on price or quality right now Origin has neither and thus no incentive for me to use it or support it.

At least they're trying to make it work. I'm not saying it's better than Steam. I'm saying Steam having a monopoly is bad for everyone. It may seem like rainbows and sunshine for the moment, but this isn't good for the consumer. We're already seeing problems with Steam go unanswered for YEARS. Origin isn't really in competition with Steam at this point, but the fact that they are trying to be is good for the consumer, that competitive nature is going to make both Steam and Origin better, and not just price wise either.

Doom972:

While they do a very fine job of making these old games work well on modern systems, a quick look at the forums can show you that there are some game-specific problems people have to solve by themselves. Not everyone has the same problem you have with Battlefront 2, but some do and have to either resolve it on their own or find a solution by someone else.

A game should work when you buy it. I shouldn't have to search the entire internet for a common problem to have it fixed. It should work. This is not something specific to me, it's a broad issue with the game. It directly impacts my ability to play and enjoy the product. It's not that much to ask for things to work when I buy them.

itchcrotch:
"A creative man is motivated by the desire to achieve, not by the desire to beat others."
-Ayn Rand-

"Only people who have no leg to stand on quote Ayn Rand"

- Me

itsthesheppy:

gigastar:
Comparing social networking to digital distribution...

I doubt im the only one who thinks that theres something fundamentally wrong with that.

itsthesheppy:
Metacritic is maybe the worst thing going on in the video game world today.

No, thats Games for Windows Live.

Oof. Hard to argue with that, but I like Games of Windows Live is annoying and awful, but Metacritic makes studios develop terribad games.

Not only that but some companies use it as an excuse to not make sequels or release other games in the states.

All they have to do is only let Gamesradar judge their games.

So they refuse to have sales approaching the kinds of sales Steam has, ban you from some of their games for modding (as opposed to Valve's Steam Workshop), and already have the reputation of the big, evil company?

There's simply no way Origin will ever beat Steam if they keep this kind of thing up.

Bernzz:
So they refuse to have sales approaching the kinds of sales Steam has, ban you from some of their games for modding (as opposed to Valve's Steam Workshop), and already have the reputation of the big, evil company?

There's simply no way Origin will ever beat Steam if they keep this kind of thing up.

I completely forgot the mod thing!

yeah completely stupid, and I had really been hoping for a battlefield 2142 mod for battlefield 3.

God that would have been sexy...

itchcrotch:
"A creative man is motivated by the desire to achieve, not by the desire to beat others."
-Ayn Rand-

What about the desire to achieve... more than someone else?

Bold sentiment EA.

I could write a lengthy magazine article on how many mistakes Origin makes and how it taking over from Steam or even being a significant challenger to it is laughable. Could it be good if they identified and fixed their many mistakes? Sure, why not. However I think the best Origin can hope for though is being the Google+ to Steam's Facebook, not the Facebook to Steam's MySpace.

Jack and Calumon:
Oh this looks familiar. EA bad mouthing other people's products without actually making their own better. Steam is superior in a lot of ways EA, and unless you offer better things than them, in prices, in offers, in service and in better EULA terms, you haven't got anything close to Steam.

Also, 90+ everything on Metacritic? Maybe if you stop working your devs off the face of the earth, I could say "Yeah, that's possible", but since we're getting another generic FPS this year that looks no different to last years (Seriously, Medal of Honour looks too much like Battlefield, but more confusing, somehow), removing the horror from Dead Space for action and generally rushing your developers, that's not possible.

Calumon: If being nice is everything, why are they so rich? : (

Steam is actually the worst DD for prices.

Other than their sales. That's how they make money like all the regular stores do; get customers in for the sale then rip em off elsewhere.

I just don't care for either as they artificially inflate prices for my region so I'll stick to the good guys like GOG and GMG.

I kinda just wish that EA would come out one day and say "Yeah, we're jerks. What're you gonna do about it? Now buy new versions of our games that you already own or we're going to burn down your mothers house."

*sigh

It's like people don't understand anything, and just hate things that don't suck them off.

Sorry forum users, but I still can't hate EA for any of the so called 'reasons' you bring up.

What company doesn't want the best? Answer me that, and I'll STFU. If you try to say Valve, I'll only respond if I want to be banned... ; P

j/k

I guess my real problem here, is that I still think EA makes more/better games than any other publisher. I still applaud their tactics for banning trolls/cheats, and I really liked that Dead Space 2 ad with the Moms.

I haven't felt betrayed by them, but I have from other companies.

I haven't been mislead by them, like I have been by other companies.

I am looking forward to their games, just like some other companies.

*shrugs

I'm {as far as fellow posters from this forum goes} just a troll for saying so, but thanks EA.

I appreciate you.

FantomOmega:

I find it funny that I've completely forgot Metacritic even existed, until EA (and IGN) brought it up.

The industry seems to put more stress on it than anyone else, really. I find it pretty forgettable.

Daystar Clarion:
Wow.

I can't actually believe this.

It's like EA have no idea how much people hate them :D

They're the Cartman of the gaming world.

... Fuck that made me laugh. I gotta go hit myself now.

EA needs to go die. Nobody want's them anymore. They are just Oblivious to the hate they generate with everything they say they want to be. They wanna be Indie? Hate. They don't wanna do sales cause it "Devalues" IP's? Hate. Have a huge Sale after that? HATE. Now this.

animehermit:

Somebloke:
...some sort of connection to any additional authenticator, on top of from Steam, such as the EA network, for the Dragon Age games and Mass Effect 2.

both of which are able to be played while you aren't online. I know because I've done it before with all 3 games, as well as Mass Effect 3.

Oh? That's kind of funny - we seem to have the same problem, but with opposite services. :D

Do you have the "From Ashes" DLC for Mass Effect 3?
(I am wondering, because ME3, on its own, will launch and play without recurring authentication, as promised (last minute before release) by the developers, but as soon as you add DLC it will go check twice each time launched and, for me, block any playing if the authentication service is unavailable.)

Origin:
It's like a polished version of GFWL.
Sure, it's still a turd, but now it has sprinkles on it!

But, seriously?
I'd rather use GOG, they're cool.

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. This is why your stock is worth half as much as it was less than a year ago EA. EA doesn't have the necessary resources to put together a better marketplace than Valve. The problem lies in the fact that EA has yet to realize that they have the worst customer service and consumer goodwill of any video game company proportionate to the money they have.

I literally groan when I want to buy a game from EA, I don't think that's a unique perspective either, I think many people do that. We don't like you EA. You make some good games but literally EVERYTHING else you do surrounding those games makes me hate you. Buying a game from EA is like going to a movie theater where every ticket is sold with a kick in the groin and a pie in the face. Until you make buying your games something we feel good about doing you will never outpace Steam, never.

As for 90+ on Metacritic, you should be focusing way more on making more games for less investment, not every game you make should be AAA, right now your company is doing little to no innovation because all of your games are too expensive to take ANY risks on. The indie market for gaming has never been better and it's gaining steam because large game producers are making fewer and fewer games with different titles and smaller companies and individuals are closing the gaps that you create by innovating. You are slowly losing parts of the market because you are too stiff in how you fund games.

Cyberjester:

Kalezian:
But, yea, in many ways GoG is better than Steam while Steam is better than GoG if that makes any sense, while both are better than Origin.

Like WoW which dominated the MMO area for years, it's starting to lose out and other games are coming to the fore.

Actually, that's not true at all, WoW still has about 50% of the MMO market share even after losing 2 million subscribers in the past two years, nothing even comes close in the MMO market.

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