Square Enix Finally Confirms PC Final Fantasy VII

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lacktheknack:

llafnwod:
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Impossible: Unable to be done, performed, effected, etc.

Doesn't seem unlikely to me if you have hardware the game flat-out doesn't like. As I implied before, I was unable to get my Windows version of The Incredible Machine working on my current rig. I spent days trying. I ended up buying the gog.com version, which worked.

Going to skip the English lesson. FF7 aside, for truly intractable games it's probably worth getting VMWare or a similar virtualization suite, installing Windows 98 on it, and using that. It's a bit of a hassle, but it's a lot more consistent than trying to use online fixes or waiting for a GOG re-release.

llafnwod:

lacktheknack:

llafnwod:
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Impossible: Unable to be done, performed, effected, etc.

Doesn't seem unlikely to me if you have hardware the game flat-out doesn't like. As I implied before, I was unable to get my Windows version of The Incredible Machine working on my current rig. I spent days trying. I ended up buying the gog.com version, which worked.

Going to skip the English lesson. FF7 aside, for truly intractable games it's probably worth getting VMWare or a similar virtualization suite, installing Windows 98 on it, and using that. It's a bit of a hassle, but it's a lot more consistent than trying to use online fixes or waiting for a GOG re-release.

Already used virtual machines. They aren't magic, you know. It didn't fix the problem with TIM, nor did it work with a few other old, OLD games I have.

They do work for many, though.

I hope somewhere in the game text pops up saying something along the lines of "Are you happy now? Will you please stop bombarding us with e-mails and harassing us at gaming conventions? Now you can get on with your lives instead of begging us to re-do a mediocre game. Thank you."

lacktheknack:

llafnwod:
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Already used virtual machines. They aren't magic, you know. It didn't fix the problem with TIM, nor did it work with a few other old, OLD games I have.

They do work for many, though.

You wouldn't need VMWare for TIM. Did you try DOSBox?

This is getting horribly off-track.

DosBox: The magic that allows GoG to sell old games.

Back on topic, what does everything think of the features being added like cloud saves and all that?

llafnwod:

lacktheknack:

llafnwod:
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Already used virtual machines. They aren't magic, you know. It didn't fix the problem with TIM, nor did it work with a few other old, OLD games I have.

They do work for many, though.

You wouldn't need VMWare for TIM. Did you try DOSBox?

This is getting horribly off-track.

I had the Windows copy. It was released for DOS AND Windows 95.

And yeah... it is. :P

robert01:
DosBox: The magic that allows GoG to sell old games.

Back on topic, what does everything think of the features being added like cloud saves and all that?

I liked cloud saving better back when it was called a memory stick. I don't think it's worth the DRM.

Harbinger_:
I hope somewhere in the game text pops up saying something along the lines of "Are you happy now? Will you please stop bombarding us with e-mails and harassing us at gaming conventions? Now you can get on with your lives instead of begging us to re-do a mediocre game. Thank you."

Even if it did, it wouldn't work.

This is not what people asked for. People asked for at the very least, for a HD upgrade. This isn't. Or a remake, where most everything is the same, the graphics are updated and maybe a few improvements to things that were broken/annoying. This isn't. Or, a re-envisioning, the same world and characters and overarching story, just done differently. This isn't. This is a port to windows 7/vista and nothing more. They didn't give the fans what they wanted, they've merely found a new way to spit in their faces while undoubtedly convincing some people to open wide and hand over their cash.

Anyone who buys this and already owns FF7 in some fashion is a huge, huge tool .

Kenjitsuka:
HALLELUJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOOO happy right now :D :D :D
Waiting since 1997, Square!

Just curious, what are you so excited about? You obviously have already played and likely own a copy of FF7 in some fashion. So, you are excited about....................... what? Achievements? Character boost? Cloud saving? Here is an answer to those.

Who cares. Stop being bad. Get a bigger HD.

girzwald:

Kenjitsuka:
HALLELUJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOOO happy right now :D :D :D
Waiting since 1997, Square!

Just curious, what are you so excited about? You obviously have already played and likely own a copy of FF7 in some fashion. So, you are excited about....................... what? Achievements? Character boost? Cloud saving? Here is an answer to those.

Who cares. Stop being bad. Get a bigger HD.

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

robert01:

girzwald:

Kenjitsuka:
HALLELUJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOOO happy right now :D :D :D
Waiting since 1997, Square!

Just curious, what are you so excited about? You obviously have already played and likely own a copy of FF7 in some fashion. So, you are excited about....................... what? Achievements? Character boost? Cloud saving? Here is an answer to those.

Who cares. Stop being bad. Get a bigger HD.

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

And I'm pretty sure that's not why they had low commercial success. The internet was just coming out of its infancy and the way games are reviewed and picked apart now, isn't the way it used to be. I doubt few people "read a review" or saw that it had "technical issues" and then said "well forget that!". It probably had low success because the PS version came out first and then the PC version came out. And at the time, it required a semi powerful computer and graphics card. Which probably also kept a lot of people from buying it.

I see a lot of hate in this thread, both against FFVII and against the re-release of it. I'm not going to bother touching the first one as I find that quite understandable. I myself start frothing at the mouth at the current generation consoles, CoD games, Sims, CnC4 and a heapton of other things. That's quite natural. The hate of this re-release however... well, let me try to explain why quite a few of us are excited about this.

Most of us did own the original, either on PSOne or PC. For me it was on PC and I can still rest my hand on the numpad and feel the muscle-memory start working. Playing some gameplay videos on youtube I grinned as the feeling from damn near a decade and a half ago started returning. However... the original discs that I still have around here somewhere just aren't as cooperative anymore. Yes, I'm computer savvy enough that I could get them working if I really sat down and spent an inordinate amount of time on it. That doesn't apply to everyone, though. Hell, it technically doesn't apply to me either as I've started to get lazy with my gaming. I just can't be arsed hunting down unofficial fanmade patches or setting up virtual machines or any of that jazz just to play the damn game.

Some of us don't have the original discs either. I was lucky when I managed to yoink the case out of a box of Ye Olde Shite that was heading to the dump. Others haven't kept the discs that they can't even get working.

Taking a quick look online shows that getting said discs will cost you a minimum of 30 bucks. Probably more. And that's without any guarantee that you can get it to run on your hardware or with your OS.

Then comes Squeenix with a re-release. Optimized for current PCs.

We frankly don't care if it's a cash-grab or that the game has been released before. Now it can be just downloaded and installed. Ready to play! From what the trailer shows it's also been scaled for new resolutions as well. No need to get unofficial patches to get the minigames to work. (Chocobos breaking the soundbarrier within 0.5 seconds of starting the race is probably not a good thing.)

I'll definitely pay for that. Hell, I'll pay all the way up to 29.99 bucks for it and it'll still be cheaper than getting a new set of discs for the original and it'll be infinitely easier to get running.

This is a game I easily spent over a hundred hours in fourteen years ago. That alone is worth paying for a re-release of this over any of the current five hours and done games on the market.

girzwald:

robert01:

girzwald:

Just curious, what are you so excited about? You obviously have already played and likely own a copy of FF7 in some fashion. So, you are excited about....................... what? Achievements? Character boost? Cloud saving? Here is an answer to those.

Who cares. Stop being bad. Get a bigger HD.

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

And I'm pretty sure that's not why they had low commercial success. The internet was just coming out of its infancy and the way games are reviewed and picked apart now, isn't the way it used to be. I doubt few people "read a review" or saw that it had "technical issues" and then said "well forget that!". It probably had low success because the PS version came out first and then the PC version came out. And at the time, it required a semi powerful computer and graphics card. Which probably also kept a lot of people from buying it.

Perhaps, but it didn't need a 3d accelerator to run, the computer I played it on did not have one. It was a modest P2 350Mhz (if I remember correctly), that used the software renderer.

Can't really say I'm all that excited about this. I mean I absolutely loved this game back in the day, but really no other changes outside of a bunch of achievements? Think I'll pass, or at most wait for it to go dirt cheap from a steam sale. (Presuming it's being sold on steam anyway)

That and the JRPG section of my brain has been hard-wired to the d-pad, really can't imagine doing the old mini-games on a keyboard/mouse.

The article I read on IGN said that this would just be the original game, with the cloud saves and achievements. Character boosters aside, I doubt they'll do anything. They don't need to, really. You'll all buy it.

I don't know why this is such a big deal. *stares at his PC version* I've had this for a while. Yeah, the PC version kinda sucked compared to the PSOne version, but I have that one too. I mean... don't we all? We've ALL played Final Fantasy 7 in some form at this point, right?

But that's Square-Enix's big thing; selling you something you've already bought three times over and this time they aren't even touching this one up (higher resolution, but no where close to high def). Sounds like a waste of money to me, unless you've misplaced a copy of the game, I can't see it as being worth it when you can download the PS3 copy for cheaper. And if you're a hardcore PC gamer, why would you be excited for this game when you shun all other console games?

I guess I don't get it. But if you like giving companies money for the same game you've already played, might I suggest Madden NFL? Or maybe NCAA Football?

Do the majority of PC gamers really care about JRPGs? Especially one that's apparently 14 years old? Not trolling here, just speaking as a PC gamer with experience of other PC gamers and its just not a genre we seem to care about as a whole.

It's one of the reasons almost none of them exist on PC, apart from Japanese developers avoiding the PC in general.

Then again I know nothing about this game so maybe its literally the god of all JRPGs that transcends peoples problems with the genre.

didn't they release FFVII on the PC somewhere in the 90,s?
still it,s nice to see that a game that has been out of print for years to make a return.

TheKasp:

Exterminas:
Huh?
I have the PC-Version of this game already. Bought it years ago.
What are the News?

Can't you read?

Do you write the same under every news about HD remakes?

They haven't said this is a HD remake. Just the same game with achievements, cloud saves and "character booster" added. Unless you're an achievements addict (or really paranoid about saved games being safe), it doesn't really seem to add much over the original PC release.

lacktheknack:
Apparently, the old FFVII PC is impossible to get working on modern hardware. So this fixes that.

Really? I last played it a couple of years ago.

To be fair, I guess this give a non-ebay way of getting hold of a copy of the game for PC. *shrug*

Anyone who grew up playing this game does not need a fucking "character booster". That's just stupid.

And everyone who posted above me about the PC version already existing and being able to run on modern hardware is correct. I have pirated copies running on the same machine with those god-awful PC-versions of Resident Evil and the better-than-console versions of Tomb Raider.

PC master race reporting in.

Wow... so one of the awesome new features of the game is the ability to cheat to whatever level you're comfortable with?

It saddens me (as a fan of the series back when it was actually good) that whoever is in charge of innovative ideas at Square Enix is beyond scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point.

I'm pretty sure I played FFVII on PC already. A long time ago.

If it was VIII I might have given a toss but VII meh...

girzwald:

robert01:

girzwald:

Just curious, what are you so excited about? You obviously have already played and likely own a copy of FF7 in some fashion. So, you are excited about....................... what? Achievements? Character boost? Cloud saving? Here is an answer to those.

Who cares. Stop being bad. Get a bigger HD.

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

And I'm pretty sure that's not why they had low commercial success. The internet was just coming out of its infancy and the way games are reviewed and picked apart now, isn't the way it used to be. I doubt few people "read a review" or saw that it had "technical issues" and then said "well forget that!". It probably had low success because the PS version came out first and then the PC version came out. And at the time, it required a semi powerful computer and graphics card. Which probably also kept a lot of people from buying it.

He said waiting since 1997 and given that the game came out in 1997 it isn't that big of a leap to make especially since the PC release was quite bug ridden. It makes newly released Bethesda games look stable in comparison.

Glademaster:

girzwald:

robert01:

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

And I'm pretty sure that's not why they had low commercial success. The internet was just coming out of its infancy and the way games are reviewed and picked apart now, isn't the way it used to be. I doubt few people "read a review" or saw that it had "technical issues" and then said "well forget that!". It probably had low success because the PS version came out first and then the PC version came out. And at the time, it required a semi powerful computer and graphics card. Which probably also kept a lot of people from buying it.

He said waiting since 1997 and given that the game came out in 1997 it isn't that big of a leap to make especially since the PC release was quite bug ridden. It makes newly released Bethesda games look stable in comparison.

So whats your point? The game was bug ridden ( not really, and there are plenty of user patches to fix these bugs ) so...........what?

Glademaster:

AzrealMaximillion:

Skratt:
No steam release? bah

I'd rather not see a Steam release for this. I'd like to be able play FF7 on my PC without needing to be online. Not that Steam is bad for that but the odd time that my internet conks out with my PC off would make me displeased.

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

Because then they have to split the money with Valve, and run the risk of Newell saying "Fuck it, let's give it away for $1.50. Frankly, if I were a developer, I wouldn't do business with Valve.

OT: I've lost interest in any Square-Enix game that doesn't let me beat my enemies to death with my car keys.

robert01:

girzwald:

robert01:

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

And I'm pretty sure that's not why they had low commercial success. The internet was just coming out of its infancy and the way games are reviewed and picked apart now, isn't the way it used to be. I doubt few people "read a review" or saw that it had "technical issues" and then said "well forget that!". It probably had low success because the PS version came out first and then the PC version came out. And at the time, it required a semi powerful computer and graphics card. Which probably also kept a lot of people from buying it.

Perhaps, but it didn't need a 3d accelerator to run, the computer I played it on did not have one. It was a modest P2 350Mhz (if I remember correctly), that used the software renderer.

My memory is a bit fuzzy, but if I remember correctly, that was still pretty decent, for the time. Just checked and according to wikipedia, the Pentium 2 was released in 97 and FF7 was brought to PC in 98. So, it stands to reason that if you had the relatively new P2, you had a decent video card as well. And it wasn't just about the video card, had to have a good processor as well. I remember when I first got it, it was choppy as hell and summons took minutes to pan out because of a PC and video card that could barely run it. Which probably turned a lot of people off like I said a few posts ago because their PC's didn't meet more than the minimum requirements.

Not really what I was hoping for, SE. But then again, I've been waiting 7 freaking years for Kingdom Hearts III too, and all you keep putting out are these damn handheld games. Now if only they were to bundle them in a collection the way God of War did, that way people who don't have all the fucking handhelds available to mankind could also keep up with the story... Anyway, won't be getting this.

Bhaalspawn:

Glademaster:

AzrealMaximillion:
I'd rather not see a Steam release for this. I'd like to be able play FF7 on my PC without needing to be online. Not that Steam is bad for that but the odd time that my internet conks out with my PC off would make me displeased.

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

Because then they have to split the money with Valve, and run the risk of Newell saying "Fuck it, let's give it away for $1.50. Frankly, if I were a developer, I wouldn't do business with Valve.

OT: I've lost interest in any Square-Enix game that doesn't let me beat my enemies to death with my car keys.

http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/how-valve-devalued-video-games-and-why-thats-good-news-for-developers-and-p

Sometimes quantity of sales is better than "quality".

girzwald:

Glademaster:

girzwald:

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

And I'm pretty sure that's not why they had low commercial success. The internet was just coming out of its infancy and the way games are reviewed and picked apart now, isn't the way it used to be. I doubt few people "read a review" or saw that it had "technical issues" and then said "well forget that!". It probably had low success because the PS version came out first and then the PC version came out. And at the time, it required a semi powerful computer and graphics card. Which probably also kept a lot of people from buying it.

He said waiting since 1997 and given that the game came out in 1997 it isn't that big of a leap to make especially since the PC release was quite bug ridden. It makes newly released Bethesda games look stable in comparison.

So whats your point? The game was bug ridden ( not really, and there are plenty of user patches to fix these bugs ) so...........what?

My point was him saying he was waiting for the PC release is not a big leap of logic.

Bhaalspawn:

Glademaster:

AzrealMaximillion:
I'd rather not see a Steam release for this. I'd like to be able play FF7 on my PC without needing to be online. Not that Steam is bad for that but the odd time that my internet conks out with my PC off would make me displeased.

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

Because then they have to split the money with Valve, and run the risk of Newell saying "Fuck it, let's give it away for $1.50. Frankly, if I were a developer, I wouldn't do business with Valve.

OT: I've lost interest in any Square-Enix game that doesn't let me beat my enemies to death with my car keys.

Also Valve still have to buy keys off them so if Valve are selling it below price as a loss leader and losing money it is their fault.

Jonci:
But.... didn't FFVII get a PC port years ago? It was back during the Windows 98 days.

Yes, but it was bug filled and looked atrocious.
On of the worst ports ever.
Besides, it doesn't even run properly on vista and 7, if at all.

The Character Booster sounds shady. I don't want to see a Pay2Win business model on a single-player game, much less one that's over a decade and a half old.

This is basically FFVII PC from years ago with this pre-installed, nothing more.

Glademaster:

girzwald:

Glademaster:

He said waiting since 1997 and given that the game came out in 1997 it isn't that big of a leap to make especially since the PC release was quite bug ridden. It makes newly released Bethesda games look stable in comparison.

So whats your point? The game was bug ridden ( not really, and there are plenty of user patches to fix these bugs ) so...........what?

My point was him saying he was waiting for the PC release is not a big leap of logic.

Bhaalspawn:

Glademaster:

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

Because then they have to split the money with Valve, and run the risk of Newell saying "Fuck it, let's give it away for $1.50. Frankly, if I were a developer, I wouldn't do business with Valve.

OT: I've lost interest in any Square-Enix game that doesn't let me beat my enemies to death with my car keys.

Also Valve still have to buy keys off them so if Valve are selling it below price as a loss leader and losing money it is their fault.

Again, what is your point? Hes been waiting since 1997.....for what? What "big leap of logic" are you not making? If hes been waiting for a PC release, he only had to wait 1 year after the PSX release. Since its been out since 1998. And its worked and still works on modern PC's due to user patches.

Again, what point about are you trying to make?

girzwald:

Glademaster:

girzwald:

So whats your point? The game was bug ridden ( not really, and there are plenty of user patches to fix these bugs ) so...........what?

My point was him saying he was waiting for the PC release is not a big leap of logic.

Bhaalspawn:

Because then they have to split the money with Valve, and run the risk of Newell saying "Fuck it, let's give it away for $1.50. Frankly, if I were a developer, I wouldn't do business with Valve.

OT: I've lost interest in any Square-Enix game that doesn't let me beat my enemies to death with my car keys.

Also Valve still have to buy keys off them so if Valve are selling it below price as a loss leader and losing money it is their fault.

Again, what is your point? Hes been waiting since 1997.....for what? What "big leap of logic" are you not making? If hes been waiting for a PC release, he only had to wait 1 year after the PSX release. Since its been out since 1998. And its worked and still works on modern PC's due to user patches.

Again, what point about are you trying to make?

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

That is exactly what you said in reply to this.

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

I am saying that is not a lot of reading in between the lines to see that the original person in this quote chain might be excited for an official non bug ridden PC re-release. I don't see how I can make it any clearer. I already stated my point thrice now.

If they aren't going to fill in the missing portions of the storyline and update the graphics, I hardly see a point to all this. I can play it on my PS3 as a download now and get to use all my old saves...

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