Square Enix Finally Confirms PC Final Fantasy VII

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If they aren't going to fill in the missing portions of the storyline and update the graphics, I hardly see a point to all this. I can play it on my PS3 as a download now and get to use all my old saves...

Glademaster:

girzwald:

Glademaster:

My point was him saying he was waiting for the PC release is not a big leap of logic.
Also Valve still have to buy keys off them so if Valve are selling it below price as a loss leader and losing money it is their fault.

Again, what is your point? Hes been waiting since 1997.....for what? What "big leap of logic" are you not making? If hes been waiting for a PC release, he only had to wait 1 year after the PSX release. Since its been out since 1998. And its worked and still works on modern PC's due to user patches.

Again, what point about are you trying to make?

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

That is exactly what you said in reply to this.

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

I am saying that is not a lot of reading in between the lines to see that the original person in this quote chain might be excited for an official non bug ridden PC re-release. I don't see how I can make it any clearer. I already stated my point thrice now.

You said hes been waiting since 1997. I asked for what, and what was your point? Since its been out for PC since 1998 and bug fixes and improvements have been around for a long time, so what hes been "waiting for" is unclear. Because I do not believe for 1 second that someone who would have been waiting since "1997" doesn't know about such things.

You then said him waiting for "the" PC release was not a big leap of logic. That is not a point, that is a reiteration of your non point.

It's like Square Enix looked in their bank account and thought "Huh. Could do with some more money".

FF7 was a good game but seriously overrated, I preferred 10; I might get it on PC at some point but probably not right away.

I thought I might get this until I saw this on the bottom of the sites main page: "Available Exclusively on the SQUARE ENIX Store"
I'm not using another digital download service. Steam is fine and I'm already stuck with an Origin account because of Mass Effect 3.

I guess I'll just dust off the old Playstation whenever I feel like playing FFVII again. Too bad.

girzwald:

Glademaster:

girzwald:

Again, what is your point? Hes been waiting since 1997.....for what? What "big leap of logic" are you not making? If hes been waiting for a PC release, he only had to wait 1 year after the PSX release. Since its been out since 1998. And its worked and still works on modern PC's due to user patches.

Again, what point about are you trying to make?

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

That is exactly what you said in reply to this.

I think he meant it being on PC(which it always has been, same as FFVIII). It was just that the games didn't have the same commercial success on the PC because they were plagued with a lot of technical issues.

I am saying that is not a lot of reading in between the lines to see that the original person in this quote chain might be excited for an official non bug ridden PC re-release. I don't see how I can make it any clearer. I already stated my point thrice now.

You said hes been waiting since 1997. I asked for what, and what was your point? Since its been out for PC since 1998 and bug fixes and improvements have been around for a long time, so what hes been "waiting for" is unclear. Because I do not believe for 1 second that someone who would have been waiting since "1997" doesn't know about such things.

You then said him waiting for "the" PC release was not a big leap of logic. That is not a point, that is a reiteration of your non point.

Ok one more time for effect. He might possibly be waiting for an "official" PC version of FF VII that is optimised for modern machines by Square. Last I checked fan patches and mods are not by Square. That and if you don't want a rom or to pirate the game is quite hard to come by at a decent price. That is why the person might be excited and that is why saying that him being excited for another PC version is not reading in between the lines.

So stating that the person isn't pulling this idea out of no where because no one knows what that user actually thinks is a non point? You really can't see what is wrong with what your saying can you? You can reply again if you would like to have the last word but I won't read it and I won't reply.

girzwald:

robert01:

girzwald:

You drew all that from what he said? That's quite a lot of in between the lines reading.

And I'm pretty sure that's not why they had low commercial success. The internet was just coming out of its infancy and the way games are reviewed and picked apart now, isn't the way it used to be. I doubt few people "read a review" or saw that it had "technical issues" and then said "well forget that!". It probably had low success because the PS version came out first and then the PC version came out. And at the time, it required a semi powerful computer and graphics card. Which probably also kept a lot of people from buying it.

Perhaps, but it didn't need a 3d accelerator to run, the computer I played it on did not have one. It was a modest P2 350Mhz (if I remember correctly), that used the software renderer.

My memory is a bit fuzzy, but if I remember correctly, that was still pretty decent, for the time. Just checked and according to wikipedia, the Pentium 2 was released in 97 and FF7 was brought to PC in 98. So, it stands to reason that if you had the relatively new P2, you had a decent video card as well. And it wasn't just about the video card, had to have a good processor as well. I remember when I first got it, it was choppy as hell and summons took minutes to pan out because of a PC and video card that could barely run it. Which probably turned a lot of people off like I said a few posts ago because their PC's didn't meet more than the minimum requirements.

Perhaps. That computer was a beast and kept on trucking right till the day I gave it away(wish I had kept it now, it would make a great router). But it very seldom problems running games that came out around that time that came with software rendering.

I do not understand why people are moaning about them re-releasing this game. So what? If you're that against it don't buy it! It's not like they're making you!

I seriously don't understand the people who say they want a remake and not this. Surely the best way to prove to a publisher that you want to see a remake of an old game is to buy it! If VII comes out in this re-release and sells a ton of copies, isn't that going to make Square think "wait a second, that was just a re-release, if we remade this it's going to make even more money!" (although this assumes it is even possible to remake VII).

Also, the people saying that they should just hurry up and make XV, well I'm pretty sure Square have been having financial problems (or at least I could have sworn I had read that somewhere but I can't find it anywhere now) so re-releasing an old game like this would make them quite a bit of money that they could use to create XV or Versus-XIII! We all know it's incredibly expensive to make games nowadays, especially something as massive as a JRPG so why not help them out! If it's at the rumoured price point of 7.99 that's not exactly a lot of money. I could understand all the fuss if it was being released at full price but it's not.

Deviate:
I see a lot of hate in this thread, both against FFVII and against the re-release of it. I'm not going to bother touching the first one as I find that quite understandable. I myself start frothing at the mouth at the current generation consoles, CoD games, Sims, CnC4 and a heapton of other things. That's quite natural. The hate of this re-release however... well, let me try to explain why quite a few of us are excited about this.

Most of us did own the original, either on PSOne or PC. For me it was on PC and I can still rest my hand on the numpad and feel the muscle-memory start working. Playing some gameplay videos on youtube I grinned as the feeling from damn near a decade and a half ago started returning. However... the original discs that I still have around here somewhere just aren't as cooperative anymore. Yes, I'm computer savvy enough that I could get them working if I really sat down and spent an inordinate amount of time on it. That doesn't apply to everyone, though. Hell, it technically doesn't apply to me either as I've started to get lazy with my gaming. I just can't be arsed hunting down unofficial fanmade patches or setting up virtual machines or any of that jazz just to play the damn game.

Some of us don't have the original discs either. I was lucky when I managed to yoink the case out of a box of Ye Olde Shite that was heading to the dump. Others haven't kept the discs that they can't even get working.

Taking a quick look online shows that getting said discs will cost you a minimum of 30 bucks. Probably more. And that's without any guarantee that you can get it to run on your hardware or with your OS.

Then comes Squeenix with a re-release. Optimized for current PCs.

We frankly don't care if it's a cash-grab or that the game has been released before. Now it can be just downloaded and installed. Ready to play! From what the trailer shows it's also been scaled for new resolutions as well. No need to get unofficial patches to get the minigames to work. (Chocobos breaking the soundbarrier within 0.5 seconds of starting the race is probably not a good thing.)

I'll definitely pay for that. Hell, I'll pay all the way up to 29.99 bucks for it and it'll still be cheaper than getting a new set of discs for the original and it'll be infinitely easier to get running.

This is a game I easily spent over a hundred hours in fourteen years ago. That alone is worth paying for a re-release of this over any of the current five hours and done games on the market.

Finally some common sense in this thread.

Yes, maybe I CAN get my old discs to work in Windows 7/8 but I would rather not have to mess with that shit. Steam has made me lazy, I don't even want to seek out official patches, much less fan made patches and mods.

I looked up the instructions to get FF7 running on Windows 7, it's a long and drawn out process and not really worth the effort when I know there is an updated version on the way.

For all the haters though, calm down, you don't HAVE to buy the updated version if you don't want to. You can continue to install and run the old version or emulate it on ePSXe.

Exterminas:
Huh?
I have the PC-Version of this game already. Bought it years ago.
What are the News?

Your a better person than I since I used a emulator I think even BEFORE that.
...Wait you bought it right? >_>

Exterminas:
Huh?
I have the PC-Version of this game already. Bought it years ago.
What are the News?

That you'll be able to buy it in a format that will work on a modern computer, and you won't have to risk spending $30 on a used copy of the game that could end up being scratched beyond repair?

...title fail. Needs the word "remake" in there somewhere.

I came in here to say I've had Final Fantasy VII on PC since 1999. Got it used for ten bucks.

As for the remake... goddamn, when are they gonna get around to VI?

loc978:
...title fail. Needs the word "remake" in there somewhere.

I came in here to say I've had Final Fantasy VII on PC since 1999. Got it used for ten bucks.

As for the remake... goddamn, when are they gonna get around to VI?

It's not a remake. it's an updated re-release.

Crono1973:

loc978:
...title fail. Needs the word "remake" in there somewhere.

I came in here to say I've had Final Fantasy VII on PC since 1999. Got it used for ten bucks.

As for the remake... goddamn, when are they gonna get around to VI?

It's not a remake. it's an updated re-release.

sooo... it's not a potato, it's a root vegetable known as S. tuberosum?

It's an HD remake.

loc978:

Crono1973:

loc978:
...title fail. Needs the word "remake" in there somewhere.

I came in here to say I've had Final Fantasy VII on PC since 1999. Got it used for ten bucks.

As for the remake... goddamn, when are they gonna get around to VI?

It's not a remake. it's an updated re-release.

sooo... it's not a potato, it's a root vegetable known as S. tuberosum?

It's an HD remake.

NO Final Fantasy IV DS is a remake, this is an updated re-release.

It may just be a re-release of a game I already have. BUT MODS GUYS. MODS! ECH, DEE, MODZZZZZ

So what?

Bhaalspawn:

Glademaster:

AzrealMaximillion:
I'd rather not see a Steam release for this. I'd like to be able play FF7 on my PC without needing to be online. Not that Steam is bad for that but the odd time that my internet conks out with my PC off would make me displeased.

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

Because then they have to split the money with Valve, and run the risk of Newell saying "Fuck it, let's give it away for $1.50. Frankly, if I were a developer, I wouldn't do business with Valve.

OT: I've lost interest in any Square-Enix game that doesn't let me beat my enemies to death with my car keys.

Ummm yeah valve can't do that unless the publisher says they can.

Glademaster:

AzrealMaximillion:

Skratt:
No steam release? bah

I'd rather not see a Steam release for this. I'd like to be able play FF7 on my PC without needing to be online. Not that Steam is bad for that but the odd time that my internet conks out with my PC off would make me displeased.

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

They probably don't want all the profits for themselves instead of giving Valve a chunk of sale. Can't blame them, its FF7 it'll sell regardless.

AzrealMaximillion:

Glademaster:

AzrealMaximillion:
I'd rather not see a Steam release for this. I'd like to be able play FF7 on my PC without needing to be online. Not that Steam is bad for that but the odd time that my internet conks out with my PC off would make me displeased.

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

They probably don't want all the profits for themselves instead of giving Valve a chunk of sale. Can't blame them, its FF7 it'll sell regardless.

It'll sell more on Steam.

mixadj:
....Or you could just make ISO's of the disc's and run the game in an emulator for PSX....

or maybe some people actually wanna buy it and didn't buy it when it came out and don't wanna spend big money on it or don't have a ps1 for it and don't want to put up with the hassle of getting the emulator to work right

twaddle:
Snip

again a psx emulator is a hassle to get working right and even if it did some people might not have the strong computers to run an emulator this serves as an alternative I understand you might not give a damn but there are people out there that do

Crono1973:

AzrealMaximillion:

Glademaster:

They could always do both and I don't see why not. For those that like every single game to be on Steam they could sell it to them on Steam while everyone else can just get it via their website.

They probably don't want all the profits for themselves instead of giving Valve a chunk of sale. Can't blame them, its FF7 it'll sell regardless.

It'll sell more on Steam.

Minecraft didn't. Neither did Diablo 3. Point is FF7 is not a game that really NEEDS Steam to sell, as much of a nigh monopoly it may be.

AzrealMaximillion:

Crono1973:

AzrealMaximillion:
They probably don't want all the profits for themselves instead of giving Valve a chunk of sale. Can't blame them, its FF7 it'll sell regardless.

It'll sell more on Steam.

Minecraft didn't. Neither did Diablo 3. Point is FF7 is not a game that really NEEDS Steam to sell, as much of a nigh monopoly it may be.

You don't know how much more either of those games would have sold if they were on Steam, especially Minecraft which required a PayPal account.

I have FF7 on my desktop on right now. Its been around forever. Actually, I'm almost certain you could go pirate it right now.

This announcement is almost surreal to read... I thought someone had bumped a thread from 1998.

Great guys. Now remake FF6 in 3D and release that on PC. DO EET NAO.

I can just as easily torrent the Playstation version and start up ePSXe. Unless the game comes out with fantastic modern graphics (which it won't) I'm passing on this.

Jonci:
But.... didn't FFVII get a PC port years ago? It was back during the Windows 98 days.

This was my first thought upon someone mentioning this to me.

Of course, my second thought was, "why the hell are we still catering to these people?" FF7 has been retconned so much by the sequels and prequels that it effectively no longer exists. I sincerely doubt the script is going to be cleaned up or the translation suddenly not being crap. I've owned the game since it came out on the PSX and after beating it once, I could never manage to make it out of Midgar before I ultimately lost interest.

I still think it's a poorly done game, especially compared to the two games that bookend it. Square rushed into 3D graphics in their infancy stage, when what they could've simply made.. say.. a proper version of Secret of Mana - which as some may know was butchered to make it fit a SNES cartridge after the SNES CD add-on was cancelled.

And really, let's see this for what it is. It's Square trying to get everyone to STFU about a remake. They're not going to do it. Hell, let's be even more cynical. This is going to cost people at least $10 (probably a lot more) for a game that's over 14 years old and is simply a re-release of a game on a platform it's being re-released on. They're essentially doing what GOG.com does, but for a lot more money and likely none of the fun extras.

EDIT: Oh gods, I just went one further and realized this is just gonna get even worse with today's modders out there. That's EXACTLY what FF7 fucking needed. More gods-awful porn associated with it. As if the crap I got shown in high school wasn't bad enough. *sigh* I have no faith left in Humanity.

Square, stop remaking shit, go make a new IP. Call it FF7.135386: The Waking Dream, and then have it be totally unrelated. People will buy it anyways, and you can start up a new series based on it, then drop the FF7 title.

JezWilkinson:
Most notably, only a week has passed since Square Enix boss Yoichi Wada dismissed rumors of a remake, claiming that a full reworking of the much-revered JRPG would kill off the franchise.

Trust me, the FF franchise got killed off already by this FFXIII saga stuff and the abysmal FFXIV MMO. Remaking FFVII would hardly be the nail in the coffin.

Double-post?

...the...hell?

twaddle:
I'm sorry but come back to me when square isn't milking the hell out of its old franchises and actually finishes a game that we want.

Grenge:
I'm sorry but come back to me when Nintendo isn't milking the hell out of its old franchises and actually finishes a game that we want.

;)

Also, texture updates. This remake means, and in a perfect world, will make absolutely nothing.

Way to go, Squeernix.

Crono1973:

AzrealMaximillion:

Crono1973:

It'll sell more on Steam.

Minecraft didn't. Neither did Diablo 3. Point is FF7 is not a game that really NEEDS Steam to sell, as much of a nigh monopoly it may be.

You don't know how much more either of those games would have sold if they were on Steam, especially Minecraft which required a PayPal account.

To be honest no one would know. Steam doesn't release sales figures. All they ever say is "this game sold 'a lot' of copies." Point is not everyone buys EVERYTHING from Steam. There are a lot of games Steam doesn't have as well that have sold just fine.

they better make this mod friendly, since they refuse to give me a remake; or better yet a conclusion to the story; I'll be happy to let the fans mod the hell out of this and give me the remake I "want"

I've played this game at least 60 times since it came out so I'm not remembering something else and nostalgia doesn't add anything to it, but I know a lot of people who'll be disappointed by this, replaying this will probably show that this game hasn't aged well at all, I just like it a lot which is why I've been able to play it so much year after year

saintdane05:
Ohfuckyesohfuckyesohfuckyes OH FUCK YES!

Steady there man. Isn't this just a port? I've had this on my PC for like 5 years now as a ROM to run on PSX.

It has no features that would make me want it over the old pc version. I don't need character boosters; where is the fun in removing the leveling in an RPG? I don't need achievements either. and it's not an HD rerelease but the same old blocky graphics.

I'd rather search for my old pc copy which isn't that hard to get to run on new pcs and won't cost me another cent.

lapan:
It has no features that would make me want it over the old pc version. I don't need character boosters; where is the fun in removing the leveling in an RPG? I don't need achievements either. and it's not an HD rerelease but the same old blocky graphics.

I'd rather search for my old pc copy which isn't that hard to get to run on new pcs and won't cost me another cent.

You do know that HD has nothing to do with graphics don't you? They could still be using blocky graphics with higher resolution textures and it could be capable of running at 1080p or higher. The specs to run this are much much much higher than the specs needed to run the original PC version.

HD is determined by screen resolution, not graphics.

lapan:
I'd rather search for my old pc copy which isn't that hard to get to run on new pcs and won't cost me another cent.

You do know that there's hardware configurations that won't let the original game work at all? For that matter, how many of the original owners do you think still has access to the discs? Even if they do, do you really think all the discs are free from scratches? Even if it is possible to get it running, it won't be with native resolutions, nor widescreen.

In short, this re-release is wonderful news for a lot of people.

And yes, according to the trailer it certainly is an HD remake. HD is simply a matter of resolution and it certainly seemed to be 720p at the least and I doubt they'd stop short of 1080p.

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