3DS XL Will Be Nintendo's Last 3D System

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3DS XL Will Be Nintendo's Last 3D System

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Satoru Iwata blames gamers' short attention spans for the lack of interest in 3D visuals.

Nintendo impressed the audience when showing off the 3DS at E3 2010, but the performance of the handheld since its March 2011 launch has been underwhelming. Nintendo cut the price dramatically within months, and while the system has had some stellar titles, they have been few and far between. Nintendo President Satoru Iwata acknowledged this in a recent interview, stating that the publisher wouldn't pursue 3D as a key feature of any system in the future.

Iwata was supportive of the handheld's visuals in the interview, calling 3D "an important element" and saying "it makes graphics more impactful, it proves a sense of immersion that 2D doesn't have, so I would say generally that 3D is better than 2D." He went on to explain that while the 3DS launched during a "3D boom," the trend has become less of a priority for gamers, for whom the novelty of such effects quickly wears off.

The publisher may not be done with 3D forever, though. Three-dimensional graphics may still show up as a "minor element" in future Nintendo systems, according to Iwata. "In terms of videogames, 3D has been a topic for a long time, I don't know if you remember the Virtual Boy?" Yes, but I think we would all rather forget.

He makes a good point about 3D being a fading novelty, but placing the blame for the handheld's lackluster performance on gamers' short attention spans isn't entirely fair. The publisher dedicated almost no time to the 3DS in its recent E3 press conference, the first-party titles have been few and far between, and those of us who picked up the system on launch day are still waiting on release dates for games that were announced over a year ago. (Animal Crossing, where are you?) Hopefully the handheld will gain steam with the scheduled releases of the 3DS XL, New Super Mario Bros. 2, and Paper Mario: Sticker Star before the year is out.

Source: The Independent via CVG

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Short attention spans?

Surrrrrrroh look a butterfly.

Of course, I'm sure that the whole Nicolas Cage style "MY EEEYYYES, MYYY EYYYYYYYYYES" reaction from players didn't help much.

I don't know about that... I prefer 2d visuals rather than headaches to be honest.

Yeeeeaaah, its definitely our short attention span!

It couldn't be the rigidly locked position your head needs to remain in order for the 3D effect to work, or how it slays the battery life, or how in many cases it doesn't really add much to the gameplay!

Nope, its definitely us. Bad us! BAD! It's also probably our fault that the 3DS didn't sell well at first too and everyone needed to take paycuts while also chopping down the 3DS price, huh Iwata?

Still getting Soul Hackers and SMT4. So the system is good in my book.

I don't really mind the whole 3D thing, but I generally play most games with it turned off. I tend to move my 3DS while I play games, and I've fallen at so many critical points due to the screen momentarily become a messy dual-image blur that the minor novelty just isn't worth it.

However, that's a minor complaint compared to the lack of good titles for the 3DS. Of all the games I've bought for it so far, the best ones have been remakes of older titles (Zelda, Devil Survivor, Snake Eater). I've yet to play a game on 3DS that has made me truly grateful to own said console, although I'm hoping the new Kingdom Hearts might change all that.

RaikuFA:
Still getting Soul Hackers and SMT4.

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait. New SMT?

Okay. This changes things.

What is he talking about? It's been really successful since the price drop. People just didn't wanna spend $250 on a handheld.

P.S. Thanks

Damn, I was really hoping for a Virtual boy 2. Oh well, maybe its for the best. The 3D on the 3DS wasn't bad, but I didn't really add anything to any of the games imo.

Oh so it's actually our fault? It has nothing to do with 3D being a stupid fad that gives people headaches, or the fact that it's really restrictive on the 3DS at all does it?

I seriously don't get how Nintendo can be this out of touch with its consumers.

Yes because using a stupid gimmick NEVER appealed to ANYONE with a short attention span.

Besides everyone knows Double-D's are the best anyway.

Lol , missleading titles ... thought ( didnt believe ) Nintendo were saying they werent going to make any more versions of the 3DS ( in response to players a waiting for the 3DSxlLiteZERO verion ).

... as for the topic, well its not like 3D wasnt in any game prior to the 3DS, there was some glasses only 3D games way back, and it was nowt bar a silly gimmick then.
If your going to go 3D you will need to develop holographic projection technology , not tricks with smoke and mirrors and very steady hands and heads.

Iwata was supportive of the handheld's visuals in the interview, calling 3D "an important element" and saying "it makes graphics more impactful, it proves a sense of immersion that 2D doesn't have,"

If impactful and immersion are now synonyms for eye strain and headaches then I'd say he's bang on.

But seriously, it's not short attention spans that are making people lose interest in 3D; it's the realization that it offers no appreciable benefit to gameplay. Certainly not enough of one to make developers willing to shun the large portion of the population that can't even use this technology anyway.

It's a gimmick and a rather stupid one at that, and a lot of consumers are either figuring that out now or knew all along.

Hazy992:
Oh so it's actually our fault? It has nothing to do with 3D being a stupid fad that gives people headaches, or the fact that it's really restrictive on the 3DS at all does it?

I seriously don't get how Nintendo can be this out of touch with its consumers.

I am fucking giddy with anticipation for the fantastic, disastrous failure of the WiiU. I can't wait for the general public to finally stop letting Nintendo make bank on shit. I will be grinning from ear to ear when their stock hits the ground, I tell ya. Ear to fucking ear.

We are going to hear about this from Yahtzee.

I like the 3D. It's a nice feature that doesn't hold development back, as the 3D effect is simple to implement. Once again I think Nintendo is failing to realize that it isn't the console, it is the lack of titles that hurts their market. Where was the Mario game at the release of the 3DS? Months behind. A best selling 1st-party game for your own console not there.

Mario, Zelda, Animal Crossing should have been ready for the 3DS, backed up by plenty of 3rd-party games. They didn't again and it cost them.

lacktheknack:
Short attention spans?

Surrrrrrroh look a butterfly.

Of course, I'm sure that the whole Nicolas Cage style "MY EEEYYYES, MYYY EYYYYYYYYYES" reaction from players didn't help much.

LEAVE NICKOLAS KAGE ALONE!!! *crys*

Paya Chin:

lacktheknack:
Short attention spans?

Surrrrrrroh look a butterfly.

Of course, I'm sure that the whole Nicolas Cage style "MY EEEYYYES, MYYY EYYYYYYYYYES" reaction from players didn't help much.

LEAVE NICKOLAS KAGE ALONE!!! *crys*

Nicolas Cage is my favorite actor...

If they expected gamers to buy the 3DS just because it plays games in 3D that is a silly assumption and VERY poor business. A lot of the games for the 3DS are games I've already purchased years ago and I'm not about to go out and purchase a game I already own just because, "OMG! High Definition and 3D!" That's not poor attention span that's logical money managing from the sane consumer.

I bought the 3DS on launch day because I'm a Resident Evil fanatic and was just dying to get Resident Evil: Mercenaries 3D and Resident Evil: Revelations. I'm sure there are many other consumers like me that buy consoles for the games, not because of silly gimmicks. I haven't purchased *any* other games for my 3DS because it's all games I own! Maybe Nintendo should hurry up and release the highly anticipated games like Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Fire Emblem: Awakening, and Animal Crossing 3DS. Maybe, when they finally release unique games the purchases for the Gameboy 3DS will increase.

It's almost insulting that Nintendo believes we'll buy a console just so we can re-purchase games we already own because of their silly 3D gimmick and High Definition.

Paya Chin:
LEAVE NICKOLAS KAGE ALONE!!! *crys*

lacktheknack:
Nicolas Cage is my favorite actor...

Did somebody call for Nicolas Cage?

It's taking two true statements and trying to link them together.
Yes, gamers have no attention span.
Yes, gamers didn't like the 3D.
But that doesn't mean the two things are related.

That being said, the 3DS has a decent library at this point, it's got good enough hardware to continue its existence and the 3D is optional so it doesn't need to be used like the Wii's controls, and the eShop is slowly but surely becoming better and better. I'm more than happy for the 3DS to just be the system that has Nintendo handling online better and have more powerful handheld titles as opposed to being the system that made 3D gaming mainstream.

Hopefully now with the "Focus on 3D!" out of their system, they can work more on Nintendo Network before the WiiU comes up.

Also: Where exactly did he blame the lack of sales on short attention spans? Hell, where did he relate sales and attention spans at all?

Another nail in the coffin of the latest incarnation of the 3D gimmick.

Firstly, Misleading title is super misleading.

Secondly; Mr. Iwata is wrong. While the 3D on the 3DS is not a pain to me, and I always play with the 3D on, it's just not important to gamers, at all. Its not that Gamers have short attention spans to care, its just that they've never cared at all.

Third though, the 3DS is an amazing handheld and I expect it to sell hundreds of millions of units in its life time. It's already at 17 Million, so I'll probably be correct.

Fourthly;

Clearing the Eye:
I am fucking giddy with anticipation for the fantastic, disastrous failure of the WiiU. I can't wait for the general public to finally stop letting Nintendo make bank on shit. I will be grinning from ear to ear when their stock hits the ground, I tell ya. Ear to fucking ear.

Can't tell if serious or not, but I am definitely buying a WiiU. I don't expect it to be an utter failure, I expect it to sell like mad, just like the Wii, DS, and 3DS did (The 3DS didn't really sell until the price cut, but the 3DS is Nintendo's best selling system on Launch Date, so, there's that). Don't expect the WiiU to be the end-all of Nintendo pal.

Jonci:
I like the 3D. It's a nice feature that doesn't hold development back, as the 3D effect is simple to implement. Once again I think Nintendo is failing to realize that it isn't the console, it is the lack of titles that hurts their market. Where was the Mario game at the release of the 3DS? Months behind. A best selling 1st-party game for your own console not there.

Mario, Zelda, Animal Crossing should have been ready for the 3DS, backed up by plenty of 3rd-party games. They didn't again and it cost them.

Couldn't agree with you more. I love my 3DS, but I've had a handful of games reserved for over a year with no release date in sight. Give me some Animal Crossing, Professor Layton, and Paper Mario and I'll be happy.

Why don't they just admit they made a poor decision when it comes to features? Anyone with half a brain could see that 3D is a cheap gimmick that adds nothing to a game, and a fad that was quick to wear thin.

Heaven forbid I'm not interested in dishing out 150-250 dollars for a handheld device plus games. Thats right, blame the gamers, or more over the fact you guys thought that the 3D gimmic would be all over it, but said gamers wern't.

Suicidejim:
I don't really mind the whole 3D thing, but I generally play most games with it turned off. I tend to move my 3DS while I play games, and I've fallen at so many critical points due to the screen momentarily become a messy dual-image blur that the minor novelty just isn't worth it.

However, that's a minor complaint compared to the lack of good titles for the 3DS. Of all the games I've bought for it so far, the best ones have been remakes of older titles (Zelda, Devil Survivor, Snake Eater). I've yet to play a game on 3DS that has made me truly grateful to own said console, although I'm hoping the new Kingdom Hearts might change all that.

RaikuFA:
Still getting Soul Hackers and SMT4.

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait. New SMT?

Okay. This changes things.

I found quite a few good games.

Super Mario 3D Land
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Mario Kart 7
Legend of Zelda: OOT
Kingdom Hearts 3D
Resident Evil: Rev... something or other. Can't remember the name for the life of me. Great game though.

Just to name a few. Also I like the 3D effects...

I only got this after there were several games out I wanted for it. The biggest issue for the system is still that there is not a lot of games that appeal to me. I loved the RE game though. So much so that I tracked down a circle pad pro, which made the game even better. I recently bought Theatrhythm Final Fantasy and am having quite a bit of fun. I mostly enjoy hearing songs from my favorite FF of all time, FF6.

Of course, no system should hinge on a gimmick. They should all hinge on the games. I hated the idea of a 3D system. But it was actually pretty good unless you moved around a lot while playing. I was pleasantly surprised by it. But games are all that matter. Not gimmicks. Also, price should be taken into account as that can be a big roadblock from people.

Sarah LeBoeuf:
..."it makes graphics more impactful, it proves a sense of immersion that 2D doesn't have, so I would say generally that 3D is better than 2D."...

Here's the thing...3D graphics are perfectly fine for some things like cinematic cutscenes but like Yahtzee said months ago, what's the point of an easily broken visual effect on a console that also features motion control? I have loved using 3D sometimes like on Theatrythem's theater and, Zelda's opening bit before you start playing the game. Otherwise 3D wasn't really a necessary part of the system. The games look really good without after all and the clipping just takes you right out of the experience. Even if you can play with the 3D on, I can't be the only person whose eyes stop noticing the effect after prolonged play.

Hopefully this means the next upgrade after the 3DSXL will have a second stick instead of a second face-camera...or maybe remove the region locks.

I don't have a short attention span, Iwata-san. I just think 3D is bullshit and doesn't give a game any more immersion than motion controls or smacking me in the back of the head every time I decide to play a modded version of Smash Bros because it's better than vanilla brawl. What is it with Nintendo blaming customers for all their problems rather than accepting the fact that they may have made mistakes? Are the higher ups worried they'll have to commit ritualistic suicide because they didn't live up to the words they gave stockholders?

So, once again Nintendo has realized that the gimmick they promoted their system with is useless.

Remember when the DS came out and every game had some kind of touch-screen implement shoe-horned into the game, and later on, that wasn't the case? 3D is even more useless, because at least a touch screen can serve a purpose. I played the Kingdom Hearts 3D demo with the 3D turned off and completely forgot that it was off until I was done with the demo.

Also, it's awfully lame that the 3DS XL doesn't have a second circle-pad on it. Nintendo sure has dropped the ball left and right with this system.

Attaching a second analogue stick is possible but it would have made the system even bigger and, though it perhaps puts a burden on people that really want that second stick, it's a call we had to make and these people will have to live with it.

Yeah, thanks a lot, asshole.

Ah good job putting that "attention span" part into his mouth.
Clearly, that is what he meant when he said that novelties, such as 3d, quickly wear off!
Yes, stating this fact must totally mean he is blaming gamers.
It practically means the same thing!

It's a good system. It updates the graphical power of the DS to something more in line with what the PSP had. Hell, I played with the 3D off for most of the OOT of time re-release and it still looked beautiful. It was fun to play early parts of the game in 3D, but the further in I got the more of a pain in the ass it became since I'm the kind of person who will tilt their handheld when really trying to beat the piss out of an enemy. Finding myself suddenly blind because my picture went all wonky from not being in the proper position started to get to me.

The claim of having to rigidly keep your head in a single position is something I don't really get. I played with the 3D on and was able to sit in quite a relaxed position while viewing the screen, but again I'm a tilter. (It makes me turn sharper in mario kart, but shh don't tell anyone)

I think this is a good stance for them to take, make 3D a feature that is there but isn't the core focus of the handheld. As for gamers having a short attention span when it comes to new things...yeah I'd believe it, but I don't think it's the reason why the 3DS saw such a lackluster release. I think the high price and wimpy release roster were to blame there.

The thing about 3D is, the idea that it gives our eyes to look at what they are designed to look at is a misconception (something Iwata, god love him, has shown himself unaware of), stereoscopic 3D isn't actually how our eyes work.
That in itself isn't a bad thing, but it means there is some doubt as to whether or not it can ever make a film/game/image look as 'real' as real life.

But if it is to add to immersion, I know I'm not alone in thinking it has to be perfect, or it only interferes. Thus far, all methods of devlivering stereoscopic 3D have been far from visuallyy seamless. I can never get lost in 3D when I keep noticing it slip up. even if it is more impressive than 2D (I'm not saying it is or isn't) it's all for naught in its current state, because 2D in comparisen, is at least consistant.

I don't know whether or not one can ever get immersed in 3D more than in 2D, without completely forgetting about it after a while anyway. But if it you can, then yes, it's got to be a lot better than current technology can accommodate.

I don't agree with people declaring that "3D is a gimmick" because all they are qualified to declare (unless they have a TARDIS) is that "CURRENT 3D is a gimmick". And yes, yes it is. "Current" 3D, is bullshit. Only time will tell whether or not stereoscopic 3D as a concept is bullshit.

Short attention span? No, I just don't like getting a headache from playing a video game, or having to keep my head perfectly still.

3D is a gimmick, it always has been and always will be.

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