Mojang, Square Enix, EA and Others Sued For Patent Infringement

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DVS BSTrD:
And patenting a concept is ridiculous.

I can't believe that you're actually allowed to patient a concept. Esp. extremely vague, poorly defined concepts.

Incidentally, "Dickmobile", that's hilarious considering the guy makes a living being a dick.

Ah yes, patent law. We meet again.

canadamus_prime:

DVS BSTrD:
And patenting a concept is ridiculous.

I can't believe that you're actually allowed to patient a concept. Esp. extremely vague, poorly defined concepts.

Incidentally, "Dickmobile", that's hilarious considering the guy makes a living being a dick.

Indeed, see the first half of my post.
Which is the part I thought people would be quoting.

Captcha: hobby-horse
This guy should get a better hobby.

Oh dear. He might have had a case until he went and sued EA. Those lawyers will eat him up.

What's also very amusing is the fact you don't actually need a product any more to secure a patent. You just need to fill out a form and get fat off suing other people and making everyone waste money.

Yal:

90sgamer:
Anyway, Notch is certainly correct: he WILL throw piles of money at this. IP law is the most lucrative law. IP attorneys charge, at the bottom-medium end, around $500/hour. Patent cases go on forever. Notch could very well go Bankrupt just to win his patent. He's not worth *that* much.

This isn't two multibillion dollar tech companies going to the mat to protect their market share. Patent trolls have different incentives, they want to make a profit directly off the lawsuit. Notch only has to put up enough resistance, relative to the worth of Minecraft for Android, to prove this isn't worth their time.

Notch is a Multimillionair.

Minecraft has been the fastest selling game on 360, PC and Android for several months consecutively. He literally sells 10'000 PC copies per DAY! That's 269'500 dollars earned in a day. That is excluding 360 sales and Android sales.

At the worst case he's earning 400'000 a day not counting merchandising. Notch is literally Swimming in cash. I think he can handle the patent troll battle.

Not to mention he could Counter sue for damages done by this lawsuit seeing as he had to privately fund lawyers. In fact trolling the troll.

(Current minecraft price 26.95 dollars)

NuclearShadow:

I believe what should be done is a patent must show results within a reasonable amount of time say, 8 years. This way if you failed to get a product out and don't even have a semi-functional prototype what should happen is the patent should become public domain. I think that is the solution to this problem.

I think more than 6 years is too long to hold human progress to ransom; especially if you're not even trying to make an honest business out of your creation.

It's not apparent that this guy has been defrauded by his competition; and his making a multi-million dollar fortune from a career of suing successful entities only helps to bring US IP law into disrepute.

Also, I can't contribute to this thread without saying how retarded it is to grant patents to moderate programming solutions.

It's an extension of logic and problem solving. Being the first person to get a (BS) patent on a solution, does not mean some poor bastard on the other side of the world who came up with a similar solution 'stole' from you.

Reserve protection for solutions that are unusually brilliant or creative. And at least ensure that the holder is trying to actively apply the solution in a useful way before letting them claim the royalties of someone else who is.

US Patent law and Texas may be irrelivant in this case since Mojang is based entirely in Sweden anyway.

TsunamiWombat:
US Patent law and Texas may be irrelivant in this case since Mojang is based entirely in Sweden anyway.

The product is sold in the US and thus, no matter how you want to interpret it, falls under various US laws. Additionally, thanks to various treaties with governments around the world, various US laws hold internationally as well.

So, if you're looking for an easy way out of this situation, won't find one in arbitrary jurisdiction limits.

Interesting that this is in the "News Room," yet is blatantly bias and unprofessional.

All through the various Patent stories I've heard about the Tech world in general I've always held comfort that it's the American's doing it, and I can sit here as an Aussie with the moral high-ground.

Now the guy behind this is an Aussie........

Hey America, wanna buy this guy from us so I can have my moral high ground back?

Please?

I swear he's a benefit to society. Look at him defending his rights like that, you're all into that right?

We can make it a package deal - we'll throw in Mel Gibson too, never again claim that he's an Aussie anymore.

Pretty Please?

Edit: Typo

some people will just sue for anything, if you can't write the speciffics you're probably grasping at straws.

Byron Bay huh?

That's a 30 minute drive from my house...I'm gonna find his hippie van (which will be hard because there are so many hippie vans) and sabotage his 'DickMobile'. Who's with me?

I fuckin' hate patents. Ideas should be free for everyone as long as people are not blatantly ripping other peoples ideas off.

These guys are obvious patent trolls. And as such they should be shot.

What's going through that man's head as he wakes up every morning?

"Good morning, world! Hm, I'm bored. Uhh...oh, I know! I'll try and big gaming for whatever reason! I mean, it never works but, hey, the 27th time is the charm, right?! :D"

The mere fact that he's suing a bunch of important companies at the same time just told me this was bullshit. I mean, when that other guy sued Ubisoft because they apparently stole his ideas from his unknown book, I at least gave him the benefit of doubt. For like 2 seconds, but still.

But this guy? Mr. Man in the Van? Riding his Dickmobile? Potential pedophile? No, no. Please, Notch. Destroy this guy with your giant robots made out of piles of money.

EA can join too. They're pretty good at being pricks and they don't even need a valid reason!

I'd encourage Square to join them but they seem to be allergic to money as of lately.

90sgamer:
ITT ignorance about patent law. You can't patent vague concepts. This article is leaving out material information.

Anyway, Notch is certainly correct: he WILL throw piles of money at this. IP law is the most lucrative law. IP attorneys charge, at the bottom-medium end, around $500/hour. Patent cases go on forever. Notch could very well go Bankrupt just to win his patent. He's not worth *that* much.

He gave his employees 300,000$ bonuses...

Would it be possible for the suit to be thrown out because Minecraft was misspelled?

Well he's an equal opportunity patent troll if nothing else, given how he seems to be suing companies of every size,type and level of lovability.

I'm going to patent sitting in white vans and then sue him.

Geez, kind of makes you want to drive up to Byron Bay and kick this guy in his smug face.

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goddamn! where are all Norwegians when we are in dire need of their expertise.
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DVS BSTrD:
Judging by this website, Australia's two main exports seem to be jokes about dicks and Dicks that are jokes.

And patenting a concept is ridiculous.

just ask sony and their advertisement during gameplay patent
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-25-sony-patents-method-to-interrupt-your-gaming-with-an-ad

Antitonic:
Is it wrong to notice that a guy called Dick has a Mr. Bumgardener for an attorney?

no.

but is it wrong if i think he sometimes screams "out to the dick mobile!" and runs to his van in a giant penis costume?

Adam Jensen:
I fuckin' hate patents. Ideas should be free for everyone as long as people are not blatantly ripping other peoples ideas off.

And how would you regulate what is and what isn't blatantly ripping off? There would have to be a legal document detailing what you must change for something to be considered different to the original product, I think I'll call it a patent.

Adam Jensen:
I fuckin' hate patents. Ideas should be free for everyone as long as people are not blatantly ripping other peoples ideas off.

These guys are obvious patent trolls. And as such they should be shot.

that...doesnt make any sense.

patents are there so people dont blatantly rip other peoples ideas off.
just ask china with their Ipud tablets, rulex watch.....
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http://kotaku.com/5904240/marvel-at-chinas-ballsy-rip+offs/

http://www.11points.com/Food-Drink/11_Ridiculous_Fast_Food_Chain_Ripoffs_In_China

http://offbeatchina.com/when-copycat-becomes-cultural-norm-in-china-foreign-movie-posters-ripped-off

http://www.hemmy.net/2007/04/29/chinese-fake-brands/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2322463/posts

Full-scale replicas of the U.S. Capitol building have been constructed in the cities of Wuxi and Fuyang.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/amazing-chinese-knock-offs-2011-1?op=1

http://powerwall.msnbc.msn.com/business/from-ikea-to-harry-potter-a-look-at-chinese-knockoffs-10553.gallery

GeneralTwinkle:
They've patented internet security programs?

What the fuck?
That shit should be illegal. You shouldn't be allowed to make a living of off suing on stupid claims, especially ones that are so vague.

Especially since...
A) He's claiming Minecraft is a security program... anyone even remotely familiar with it KNOWS that's exactly what it ISN'T.

And...
B) He can't even spell "Minecraft" properly. Yeah... if you're going to make an obviously fraudulent patent violation claim, the least you can do is have the decency to do enough research to know how to spell the program you're supposedly suing over.

evilneko:
I'd call this guy a patent troll too, but apparently it's against the rules to call someone a troll.

So I'll just call him an asshole instead.

Don't worry! It's an actual, real industry-specific term.

Oh, and to everyone who thinks Uniloc is actually hoping to win - they're not. They're probably hoping for Mojang to just settle out of court instead of wasting money on laywers.

Is that Notch's thing?

"Get sued -> Go to Twitter"?

90sgamer:

RvLeshrac:

Correction: You *SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED* to patent vague concepts.

You most certainly CAN obtain a patent for vague concepts - otherwise, IP patents would not exist. Amazon holds the "One-Click" patent, which is just "Not requiring that the user enter all of their data again when buying something." In order for that to not be a concept, it would need to patent very specific code in a specific language.

[citation needed]

Someone has the patent for games on loading screens.
Not a specific game; any game.
And force feedback in joysticks.
That's why we don't get those any more.

rhizhim:
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STAR FUCKS.
YESSSSSSSSS I'd rather go there than to Star Bucks, really : D

anthony87:
Is that Notch's thing?

"Get sued -> Go to Twitter"?

No, it's like with every twitter user:
"experience anything while being awake enough to type -> Go to Twitter"
Makes you wonder why people don't tweet about how they just breathed in/out all the time.

Dear United States, when are you going to change your laws to prevent this kind of legal bullying by fat copyright mobsters?

It's probably also impossible to get a verdict holding Uniloc accountable for all legal fees made by the people they went after...

"Unfortunately for them, they're suing us over a software patent," he tweeted. "If needed, I will throw piles of money at making sure they don't get a cent."

I think I just found my all time hero.

Here's the way you approach settlement negotiations with such a dick.

1) find some worthy charity said dick supports, or perhaps said dick has a family member or relative suffering from some as-yet incurable disease
2) setup an account of, say $200,000
3) during the initial settlement meeting, explain to said dick that this $200,000 will be going to the selected charity, after he signs the patent in question over to the Open Invention Network, or some other suitable venue, or just releases it completely, and forswears ever suing anybody over it ever again
4) explain that if he continues this present course of litigation, all of the legal fees incurred will be paid from that account, leaving whatever is left over for the charity
5) if necessary, dump even more money into the account until it starts to penetrate the bell's end

I fucking LOVE notch.
"I will throw piles of money to make sure they don't get a cent"
That's brilliant, paying out the amount the other guy wanted into legal stuff so the other guy gets none of your monies through spite.
I Fucking LOVE notch.

these people need to die in a hole, and the patent system needs to be reviewed. writing up patents and sitting on them for years just to sue someone who makes use of the idea unknowingly is outright wrong.

Rainforce:

anthony87:
Is that Notch's thing?

"Get sued -> Go to Twitter"?

No, it's like with every twitter user:
"experience anything while being awake enough to type -> Go to Twitter"
Makes you wonder why people don't tweet about how they just breathed in/out all the time.

Unfortunately I know people who are like that with regards to Facebook.

"Just woke up!"
"Getting dressed!"
"Lovely breakfast!
"Here's a photo of what I had for breakfast!"

I WISH I WAS FUCKING JOKING WITH THAT LAST ONE! It's....it's just....maddening. It's so maddening that I can't think of a decent way to politely tell them that nobody gives a shit O_o.

Kuth:

evilneko:
I'd call this guy a patent troll too, but apparently it's against the rules to call someone a troll.

So I'll just call him an asshole instead.

Actually the term patent troll comes from different origins than internet troll. A net troll trys to draw attention or evoke a response. A patent troll does no such thing. Patent trolls are specific in that they hold on to patents and sue companies over patents to make money. Many times such companies called patent trolls do nothing more but sue people over patents.

What this company is doing is classic. They are using a software patent, which to even engineers those patents make little sense, and they are doing it in texas, where patent cases are easy to win in.

So yeah, go ahead can call this guy a patent troll, because this is exactly what they are. Trolls.

To elaborate, the origin of, "Patent troll" came along when a guy being sued by one said that the person suing was committing extortion. Well, he got slapped with a slander lawsuit. So he tried to come up with a good legal term, and his daughter happened to like Troll dolls. So he thought about ugly trolls lying in wait, trying to extort a toll out of people crossing their bridge when they didn't do anything to create that bridge. And the term was born, slander suit risk-free.

Also, I think this is the right page (It's not loading for me, but with the connection I have right now Google doesn't load half the time)

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack/

Its a very interesting look into the world of patent law, and why tech patents are the biggest joke in the world.

I'm sick of all these patent disputes, all they seem to do is hold back industry innovation and block competition. I really think there has to be some changes to the way patents are done.

rhizhim:
patents are there so people dont blatantly rip other peoples ideas off.
just ask china with their Ipud tablets, rulex watch.....
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That's trademark infringement, and is all about the outwards appearance of a product.

Patents are about functionality. What would you say about a patent for an "entertainment computer device that displays visual output on a television"?

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