BioShock Developer Hiring Based on Metacritic Scores

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BioShock Developer Hiring Based on Metacritic Scores

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Irrational games is looking for the best of the best, on Metacritic.

The games industry takes review aggregator, Metacritic, very seriously. Not only do some publishers use it to determine how much cash should go to developers, at least one company is using Metacritic scores to screen potential job applicants.

A recent listing for a design manager position at Bioshock Infinite developer, Irrational Games, lists "Credit on at least one game with an 85+ average Metacritic review score" as one of its requirements

The listing is obviously referring to professional Metacritic scores, otherwise the position will most likely go forever unfilled.

The other requirements include at least six years' worth of game design experience, four years in management and credits on at least three games that have been completed and shipped.

Looking for staff who've worked on popular titles makes perfect sense, of course, but Metacritic's accuracy and relevance have been questioned several times before. The way it converts non-numerical review scores into a 1-100 figure, its policy of assigning numerical scores to reviews that don't already have them and the fact the site produces a weighted average (IE: Reviews from larger publications have a bigger effect on the final score) are often singled out for criticism.

Source: Gamasutra

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And the Most Appropriately Named Games Studio award goes to...

And thus the second video game crash began.

Considering the shenanigans that go on with rating games on metacritic that's kind of a a foolish way to rate future employees

spectrenihlus:
And thus the second video game crash began.

And thus, people did not understand what the video game crash was.

I am going to hire someone that got a free pass from Yahtzee. SOUND BUSINESS, NO?

Why do game studios not understand how worthless metacritic is, how ineffective DRM is, how unpopular escort missions are, or any of a number of things that are common knowledge among gamers? Shouldn't it be part of their job to understand these things?

yes, lets hire people based on an easy to manipulate and inaccurate rating website.

what a bunch of idiots.

draythefingerless:

spectrenihlus:
And thus the second video game crash began.

And thus, people did not understand what the video game crash was.

Disregarding whether he does or doesn't: he doesn't have to understand the causality behind the first to predict another crash due to entirely different reasons.

OT: "LF 2 MORE GAME DEV NEED ANIMATOR DESIGNER +85 METACRITIC RATING. /w Irrational games"

McMullen:
Why do game studios not understand how worthless metacritic is, how ineffective DRM is, how unpopular escort missions are, or any of a number of things that are common knowledge among gamers? Shouldn't it be part of their job to understand these things?

These things are put in because gamers aren't game devs highest god. That honor goes to Making Money - with its faithful priest The Shareholder.

Metacritics: the Lehman Brothers of Review-Sites.

BloodRed Pixel:
Metacritics: the Lehman Brothers of Review-Sites.

they ar'n't that bad......are they?

McMullen:
Why do game studios not understand how worthless metacritic is, how ineffective DRM is, how unpopular escort missions are, or any of a number of things that are common knowledge among gamers? Shouldn't it be part of their job to understand these things?

The sad truth is that a lot of "common knowledge" are, in fact, factoids. A lot of people do take metacritic seriously when planning their purchases, sadly. Which makes producers very keen on getting high metacritic ratings, which also leads to the developers wanting them because the producer is the one giving paychecks to the devs.

At the end of the day a video game developer needs to make money. And money is often made mainly by selling potential future projects to publishers, not from revenues of sold games (because the publisher takes most of that). And at that point being able to tell the publisher (who cares about metacritic scores) that all your developers have worked on 85+ metacritic games is a strong selling point.

Evil Smurf:

BloodRed Pixel:
Metacritics: the Lehman Brothers of Review-Sites.

they ar'n't that bad......are they?

Oh yes, they are. In fact, the more our precious developers listen to MC, the more fanboiism we'll see, and thus VALVe will monopolize the entire market at some point ... Oh wait, that does sound kinda good. Go ahead, nothing to see here.

This really doesn't make sense to me as any kind of recruiting benchmark. A lot of really solid games have metacritic scores below the arbitrary 85 mark, but that's besides the point.

Seems a little irrational to me.

rhizhim:
yes, lets hire people based on an easy to manipulate and inaccurate rating website.

what a bunch of idiots.

*Yes, *let's hire people based *upon an easy to manipulate and inaccurate *aggregating website.

The lesson here is: don't be so quick to call others names. You achieve nothing constructive and look silly.

Clearing the Eye:

rhizhim:
yes, lets hire people based on an easy to manipulate and inaccurate rating website.

what a bunch of idiots.

*Yes, *let's hire people based *upon an easy to manipulate and inaccurate *aggregating website.

The lesson here is: don't be so quick to call others names. You achieve nothing constructive and look silly.

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OT: Selecting your employees via Metacritic is like selecting your school's teachers via the Prom voting. While the connection is there somewhat, you're doing your job REALLY FUCKING WRONG.

Clearing the Eye:

rhizhim:
yes, lets hire people based on an easy to manipulate and inaccurate rating website.

what a bunch of idiots.

*Yes, *let's hire people based *upon an easy to manipulate and inaccurate *aggregating website.

The lesson here is: don't be so quick to call others names. You achieve nothing constructive and look silly.

the lesson is that if you are going to correct my grammar you should at least keep my message intact.

rating website not aggregating website.

even if the website really just accumulates different critiques/ ratings.

Still Life:
This really doesn't make sense to me as any kind of recruiting benchmark. A lot of really solid games have metacritic scores below the arbitrary 85 mark, but that's besides the point.

Seems a little irrational to me.

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No, no, this makes complete sense. Look at Hollywood. You see this kind of thing all the time. Movies that are looking for actors with at least one oscar. Calls for directors with at least one "two thumbs up" review from Ebert.

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Oh, right. You don't see that. Because hiring people based on the 100% subjective opinion of the often purchasable media is COMPLETELY STUPID.

Irrational indeed!

This is just dumb. Developers have different sections for different elements in games. A game could have atrocious gameplay but amazing writing, graphics, or music, but just because it might not get amazing metacritic scores, Irrational will miss out.

The industry seems so ridiculously out of touch with the consumer these days.

rhizhim:

Clearing the Eye:

rhizhim:
yes, lets hire people based on an easy to manipulate and inaccurate rating website.

what a bunch of idiots.

*Yes, *let's hire people based *upon an easy to manipulate and inaccurate *aggregating website.

The lesson here is: don't be so quick to call others names. You achieve nothing constructive and look silly.

the lesson is that if you are going to correct my grammar you should at least keep my message intact.

rating website not aggregating website.

even if the website really just accumulates different critiques/ ratings.

Metacritic is an aggregator; it organizes reviews from a wide variety of other groups, calculates the average and displays the result to the viewer. "Rating website" is simply poor English.

"Aggregator refers to a web site or computer software that aggregates a specific type of information from multiple online sources."
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggregator

Again, don't insult others if you aren't prepared to face valid, informative criticism.

Clearing the Eye:

rhizhim:

Clearing the Eye:
*Yes, *let's hire people based *upon an easy to manipulate and inaccurate *aggregating website.

The lesson here is: don't be so quick to call others names. You achieve nothing constructive and look silly.

the lesson is that if you are going to correct my grammar you should at least keep my message intact.

rating website not aggregating website.

even if the website really just accumulates different critiques/ ratings.

Metacritic is an aggregator; it organizes reviews from a wide variety of other groups, calculates the average and displays the result to the viewer. "Rating website" is simply poor English.

"Aggregator refers to a web site or computer software that aggregates a specific type of information from multiple online sources."
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggregator

Again, don't insult others if you aren't prepared to face valid, informative criticism.

guess why i said:

rhizhim:

even if the website really just accumulates different critiques/ ratings.

and i am sorry if my poor english offends you.

Deus Ex: Invisible War has an 80 on metacritic. Nuff' said.

Because it's not like a great developer or designer has ever been stuck in a studio where a major title was screwed up by mismanaging egomaniacs.

I totally hope this becomes more frequent.. then every game ever made will be nothing but CoD developers.. and I can stop gaming and spend my money on booze and whores.

Looks completely rational to me. I mean really it's not like there is any chance that a competent programmer could be found amongst the hundreds involved in a project that has a Metacritic of say 80-84. Right? Right? /sarcasm

OT

This is pretty stupid. These game devs all have coffee meets with one another on a regular basis. They share ideas and in some cases talent. Irrational is going to find this biting them in the ass sooner or later.

As for Metacritic. I don't have a problem with them aggregating the reviews. Makes it easy for when I don't feel like looking them up unit by unit. I do disapprove of them giving their own spin on what a publication's review is worth. That falls outside the realm of aggregation and into manipulation. I also disapprove of how the industry uses this shit as if it is the only measure of success.

Well I wasn't likely to buy any more of their shit anyway so that makes it all the easier to avoid supporting this new and profoundly stupid practice.

rhizhim:

Clearing the Eye:

rhizhim:

the lesson is that if you are going to correct my grammar you should at least keep my message intact.

rating website not aggregating website.

even if the website really just accumulates different critiques/ ratings.

Metacritic is an aggregator; it organizes reviews from a wide variety of other groups, calculates the average and displays the result to the viewer. "Rating website" is simply poor English.

"Aggregator refers to a web site or computer software that aggregates a specific type of information from multiple online sources."
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggregator

Again, don't insult others if you aren't prepared to face valid, informative criticism.

guess why i said:

rhizhim:

even if the website really just accumulates different critiques/ ratings.

and i am sorry if my poor english offends you.

There is no "Even if" about it. "Rating website" does not refer to aggregation and is simply the wrong term to use. You even went out of your way to state that Metacritic isn't an aggregator--"rating website not aggregating website."

You called another group idiots in a poorly written comment and I pointed out the irony. Arguing won't reverse that. Take the criticism on board and reconsider how quickly you insult others.

Clearing the Eye:

rhizhim:

Clearing the Eye:
*Yes, *let's hire people based *upon an easy to manipulate and inaccurate *aggregating website.

The lesson here is: don't be so quick to call others names. You achieve nothing constructive and look silly.

the lesson is that if you are going to correct my grammar you should at least keep my message intact.

rating website not aggregating website.

even if the website really just accumulates different critiques/ ratings.

Metacritic is an aggregator; it organizes reviews from a wide variety of other groups, calculates the average and displays the result to the viewer. "Rating website" is simply poor English.

"Aggregator refers to a web site or computer software that aggregates a specific type of information from multiple online sources."
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggregator

Again, don't insult others if you aren't prepared to face valid, informative criticism.

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And for that, my fwend Bigguth Dikkuth wood beat you THIWWY!!!

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You... you... you wapthcallion!!!

That seems like a very, very stupid hiring practice.

Captcha: pitter patter. Dear Captcha: Since when have you been in league with my ovaries?

Clearing the Eye:

rhizhim:

Clearing the Eye:
Metacritic is an aggregator; it organizes reviews from a wide variety of other groups, calculates the average and displays the result to the viewer. "Rating website" is simply poor English.

"Aggregator refers to a web site or computer software that aggregates a specific type of information from multiple online sources."
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggregator

Again, don't insult others if you aren't prepared to face valid, informative criticism.

guess why i said:

rhizhim:

even if the website really just accumulates different critiques/ ratings.

and i am sorry if my poor english offends you.

There is no "Even if" about it. "Rating website" does not refer to aggregation and is simply the wrong term to use. You even went out of your way to state that Metacritic isn't an aggregator--"rating website not aggregating website."

You called another group idiots in a poorly written comment and I pointed out the irony. Arguing won't reverse that. Take the criticism on board and reconsider how quickly you insult others.

Have you added anything of value to this topic yet? *checks other posts* Nope. You also may want to check rhizhim's nationality. Odds are good he speaks more languages than either of us. I haven't reported you but it is only a matter of time before you get knuckle rapped here.

Wow, I kind of had hope for Bioshock Infinite, good to know I can go ahead and skip it.

Zaik:
Wow, I kind of had hope for Bioshock Infinite, good to know I can go ahead and skip it.

The management branch of Irrational doing crap doesn't mean the devs of 2k are crap. Look at UbiSoft for example, crap publishing department and executive decisions, really good devs and mostly good games. BioShock 2 outclassed the original in almost every aspect (save for that *one big memorable twist* it didn't have) and Infinite looked promising so far to me, idk why this suddenly installs so many worries.

It's been a long time since gaming companies care less about the objective quality of their games than how much money they can make from them. Any game with a Metacritics rating above 85 is guaranteed huge profits, so clearly you can see what they aim for.

I play video games less and less. Part of it because I grow older, bust mostly because of the trend in the industry. They even dig up old successes (that would be failure by today's standards, by the way) instead of trying to make new games using what made the old ones great. Case in point: Baldur's Gates Enhanced Edition vs Dragon Age 2.

I am wondering how long either Irrational Games will last if this is a constant requirement or they realize how silly it is and it stops.

Irrational games? IRRATIONAL IS RIGHT

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