Wil Wheaton Announces "Don't Be a Dick Day"

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Revnak:

Crono1973:

"I actually have a thing to say to guys who play video games," he said. "When a woman joins the game, like... don't be a dick."

Being a Trek fan and thinking Wheaton was a pretty cool guy I had nothing but respect for him but this quote just means he's caught up in this PC bullshit too.

Listen folks, women want to be treated equally so they should be. If you're a dick to other guys, then you SHOULD be a dick to women too. Anything else is preferential treatment.

Watch how many women come along to defend preferential treatment.

Women are definitely treated worse on the Internet pal, and if you can't figure that out you really need to click that fat, slut, or ugly link (or whatever the order is). I've been on the Internet for a while and I have gotten nowhere near the level of shit that site shows women getting.

I am not your pal.

Of course women are treated worse, they always are and will always be so sayeth themselves. One day you'll tire of their whining too and wonder why no one gives a shit when men complain but jump to their rescue the minute women complain. Look how big this thing has become recently? It's like a damn movement now for those gullible enough to fall for it, as Wil Wheaton apparently has.

Ask yourself this, if men were treated worse on the internet and they complained, would anyone fuckin' care? Most likely men would be told to sit down and "take it like a man".

So you go on being chivalrous if it makes you feel better. I am done here.

I say, don't be a dick to anyone but the minute you single out one gender, that's called sexism.

So if I want to not get Wil anything for his Bday, I just need to be a dick to someone?

What if I'm a dick to someone else being a dick? Does he approve of that?

Every day's don't be a dick day when you're nice to people.
Spread the love!!! :D

Which is ironic because Wil Wheaton is a dickbag himself.

Disagree with his opinions and oh lawd, if you expected "rational discussion", you've got another thing coming..

Also, let's just shut down this "sexism" issue before it even starts. Man, woman, gay, straight, black, white etc. joins a game? Don't be a dick, simple as that. Unless of course you're a 12 year old troll, in which case I don't really think what some 40 year old guy who was once in Star Trek says is going to matter.

I actually agree with crono. There is a ton of 'white knight syndrome' out there, and under the right circumstances, a woman could get bent over that as well. Shit, I've seen plenty of it across my years of forum trolling (as well as dating, but it's been a tumultuous season).

The only option is to play ignorant, and more importantly - SILENT - over the plight of women, and just let them vent as needed. Pulling out chairs for them at the table, opening doors and requesting to pay the bill often times brings upon the same wrath you'd get if you didn't in the first place. Yay equality.

capcha: hot sauce (tell me about it!)

~in retrospect, maybe there is just nothing you can do about avoiding it. If they are gonna rage, they will find reason to, so it's not like any outlook is wrong so much as it's being in the wrong place and the wrong time.

shrekfan246:

canadamus_prime:
That's a very nice sentiment Wil, but I can already tell from some of the other posters on this thread that it's going to be a massive failure. Some (read: "many") people are just natural born dicks. __

I particularly like the implication that because he mentioned "if a woman enters a game" and "don't be a dick" in the same quote, he's now sexist.

I try to not be a dick all the time.

It usually works pretty well. :D

I'm sure he meant don't be a dick towards her just because she's a woman. As in, be inclusive not exclusive.

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Asking me that is like asking Garrus to uncalibrate a gun.

Oh my God, it's like the Escapist has fucking women-turrets. This site can't go five whole seconds without someone commenting about them and how life is so unfair.

On topic, I wish every day could be "don't be a dick day", but considering that's asking a little too much of the general population (myself included on occasion), I'll settle with a day. Granted, we wont even get through that, but it's a nice sentiment.

GTwander:
I actually agree with crono. There is a ton of 'white knight syndrome' out there, and under the right circumstances, a woman could get bent over that as well. Shit, I've seen plenty of it across my years of forum trolling (as well as dating, but it's been a tumultuous season).

Aye, same here.

It's not like that kind of behavior is anything new, but it sure as fuck gets really old over time.

Aside from a close group of friends, guys can go fuck and die, no one will give 2 shits, but the moment a woman screams "teh noes!" even if it's over something absolutely ludicrous, everyone jumps to her rescue in a heart-beat. It's sexist in itself but, well... What can you do?

I guess us guys will just have to take it like a man. *sigh*

being a "dick" is a silly attempt at bypassing thinking about morality. What is "dickish" to one person will not be "dickish" to another etc...

Mick Golden Blood:
Anyways, I find it especially depressing this guy felt it necessary to explain that his game was genderless. That shouldn't even be a fucking issue, especially in a game that is about nothing but building shit out of blocks.

The hell...

Wrong thread, but ironically, the exact same issue.

Crono1973:

Revnak:

Crono1973:

Being a Trek fan and thinking Wheaton was a pretty cool guy I had nothing but respect for him but this quote just means he's caught up in this PC bullshit too.

Listen folks, women want to be treated equally so they should be. If you're a dick to other guys, then you SHOULD be a dick to women too. Anything else is preferential treatment.

Watch how many women come along to defend preferential treatment.

Women are definitely treated worse on the Internet pal, and if you can't figure that out you really need to click that fat, slut, or ugly link (or whatever the order is). I've been on the Internet for a while and I have gotten nowhere near the level of shit that site shows women getting.

I am not your pal.

Of course women are treated worse, they always are and will always be so sayeth themselves. One day you'll tire of their whining too and wonder why no one gives a shit when men complain but jump to their rescue the minute women complain. Look how big this thing has become recently? It's like a damn movement now for those gullible enough to fall for it, as Wil Wheaton apparently has.

Ask yourself this, if men were treated worse on the internet and they complained, would anyone fuckin' care? Most likely men would be told to sit down and "take it like a man".

So you go on being chivalrous if it makes you feel better. I am done here.

I say, don't be a dick to anyone but the minute you single out one gender, that's called sexism.

Yes, damn me for being friendly on the Internet! Damn me to Internet hell!!!

And honestly, if men were getting treated worse on the Internet, I would be right there to call foul. I call foul on custody settlements. I call foul on the idea that men are automatically worse at emotional things. I honestly think that the sexism that pervades society is worse for men than women. I want people to stop being dicks to women on the Internet because I desire there to be an Internet where I can freely socialize with people regardless of sex and gender. I desire an end to sexism because I do not want to be told what it is that makes me a man or how I should act in order to prove that I am a man. I desire to be myself and socialize with others who are also being themselves, rather than only being able to socialize in accordance with ridiculous gender roles. So when I see gender roles being forced down my throat or down the throat of another, fuck yeah I'll call foul.

The shit that women have to endure to socialize on the Internet is more than I would ever be able to deal with, that is wrong, so I call foul. If it were the other way around I would do the same thing. Stop assuming it's all just a feminist conspiracy and explain to me just how you can think that women do not have to endure more shit than men on the Internet?

Wharrgarble:
Oh my God, it's like the Escapist has fucking women-turrets. This site can't go five whole seconds without someone commenting about them and how life is so unfair.

Do you mean women Tourette's? Or are you accusing us of using mounted weaponry that use women as ammunition?

Grey Carter:
~are you accusing us of using mounted weaponry that use women as ammunition?

I'm sure there is an anime or two about exactly that.

Can I still be a dick to star trek fans? It's not like they're people or anything...

Grey Carter:

Wharrgarble:
Oh my God, it's like the Escapist has fucking women-turrets. This site can't go five whole seconds without someone commenting about them and how life is so unfair.

Do you mean women Tourette's? Or are you accusing us of using mounted weaponry that use women as ammunition?

DVS BSTrD:
Can we have a "don't ruin Star Trek" day on MY birthday?

Hey, don't blame the actor for how badly the writers screwed up his character. And for the record, Wil Wheaton hates Wesley too. Check out:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WilWheaton
http://www.aoltv.com/bloggers/wil-wheaton

And I, for my part, will endeavor not to be a dick today. You're awesome, Wil!

It's the internet. If you're not being a dick somewhere on the internet, you're not using the internet properly.

Urgh, Mr Wheaton. He does mean well but I tried reading his blog once and it just grated on me something rotten. Happy birthday to the guy however, hope he has a good one!

I'm sorry but I'm gonna continue being a dick. It's kinda part of my nature and why people actually like me.

What Wil doesn't understand is that people don't like assholes. They just shit on everything. At least with a dick they know how to get the assholes to shut up so you can enjoy your games. If anything dicks should be celebrated for their efforts to get rid of assholes. Sure they do it in a crude manner but dammit it gets the job done right.

What bothers me is that people are becoming oversensitive and can't tell the difference between a dick and an asshole. I mean it's at the point where you can't swear anymore, where feelings are more important than the facts all so that what is actually a minority can force people to play games they want them to be played instead of letting people have freedom.

undeadsuitor:
Wait...Wil Wheaton is 40?

My first reaction.

Also, Wil Wheaton + beard is just... weird.

GTwander:

Mick Golden Blood:
Anyways, I find it especially depressing this guy felt it necessary to explain that his game was genderless. That shouldn't even be a fucking issue, especially in a game that is about nothing but building shit out of blocks.

The hell...

Wrong thread, but ironically, the exact same issue.

Lol yeah.

My bad anyways. *edits out that part of the post*

Grey Carter:

Wharrgarble:
Oh my God, it's like the Escapist has fucking women-turrets. This site can't go five whole seconds without someone commenting about them and how life is so unfair.

Do you mean women Tourette's? Or are you accusing us of using mounted weaponry that use women as ammunition?

GTwander:
I'm sure there is an anime or two about exactly that.

Revnak:

Congratulations, you three just made this thread actually worth reading.

Today being "Don't Be a Dick" Day kind of unfortunately implies that every other day shouldn't be, but it's a bit ineffectual anyway. Most people who are being dicks either don't realize/believe it or won't care if a geek/internet celebrity tells them not to be. Heck, most of the time, people just get too wrapped up in themselves to realize they're being dicks.

For example, half of this thread.

Whatever, Wheaton. When's the last time you got ME b-day present?...

What a dick.

I wholeheartedly support this. I mean, we should have it every day, but you've got to start small.

He's fucking FORTY? The man doesn't look older than 35. Max.

For everyone who isn't a dick today I will multiply my dickishness by 2 to balance you out.

Revnak:

Grey Carter:

Wharrgarble:
Oh my God, it's like the Escapist has fucking women-turrets. This site can't go five whole seconds without someone commenting about them and how life is so unfair.

Do you mean women Tourette's? Or are you accusing us of using mounted weaponry that use women as ammunition?

awesome... now I need to clean my keyboard from coffee spit XD

Revnak:
I honestly think that the sexism that pervades society is worse for men than women. I want people to stop being dicks to women on the Internet because I desire there to be an Internet where I can freely socialize with people regardless of sex and gender. I desire an end to sexism because I do not want to be told what it is that makes me a man or how I should act in order to prove that I am a man. I desire to be myself and socialize with others who are also being themselves, rather than only being able to socialize in accordance with ridiculous gender roles. So when I see gender roles being forced down my throat or down the throat of another, fuck yeah I'll call foul.

The shit that women have to endure to socialize on the Internet is more than I would ever be able to deal with, that is wrong, so I call foul. If it were the other way around I would do the same thing. Stop assuming it's all just a feminist conspiracy and explain to me just how you can think that women do not have to endure more shit than men on the Internet?

This. So much this. Have my love babies.

OT: Well, if Wil said so, we should stop being dicks for a day. Or, let's follow this incredible idea and act like you would in the real world when talking to people face to face with basic social skills and politeness every day.
No? okay :c

Don't be dick? More like don't have a dick it seems lately.

Grey Carter:

Wharrgarble:
Oh my God, it's like the Escapist has fucking women-turrets. This site can't go five whole seconds without someone commenting about them and how life is so unfair.

Do you mean women Tourette's? Or are you accusing us of using mounted weaponry that use women as ammunition?

I was thinking of it the other way around: mounted women used as heavy weaponry. I have a feeling they'd wear...tank tops.

So can I be an utter asshole for 364 days?

Every day is 'don't be a dick' day if you have Jesus in your heart.

/deadpan

GTwander:
I actually agree with crono. There is a ton of 'white knight syndrome' out there, and under the right circumstances, a woman could get bent over that as well. Shit, I've seen plenty of it across my years of forum trolling (as well as dating, but it's been a tumultuous season)

Okay, there is one thing I have never quite understood about that opinion though... how do you tell the difference between someone "white knighting" and someone who is just telling you (you as in anbybody) to quit being a dick?

The white knight accusation seems to be, more frequently, used in response to someone accusing another person of sexism. It's rarely used in the context of Brownie points with women, but more as a reversal card to turn an argument against an accusation of sexism. It also appears to require no basis, or evidence, for it to work in an argument, as apparently, White Knight is a damnable accusation (more so then sexism...).

From my long and extensive experience on the internet, it would appear that the "White Knight" was created as a go to retort to shut down accusations of sexism, without any effort on the accused's part to either acknowledge a problem or defend their opinion, but to simply switch the subject of the debate.

I have never been called a White Knight, as I rarely weigh in on topics with such polarised opinions, but I see it thrown around these parts so often lately it's meaning is lost to me. It has as much weight to me as shouting troll or screaming HAX! down your microphone. In other words it means nothing.

Essentially, if someone ever uses the term White Knight, I tend to scrutinise what they say even more... and low and behold, more often then not they fail to defend their corner and keep falling back on this Reversal card.

EDIT: Also, it's quite hilarious how the people started the sexist discussion on this thread are the people who generally try to shut it down. Despite the fact the quote that sparked it all:

I actually have a thing to say to guys who play video games," he said. "When a woman joins the game, like ... don't be a dick.

Was said in 2011 in a conference specifically dealing this issue.

So yeah, who's being a kneejerk reactionary in this situation?

Take out the 'day' part of this and it's got my support.

And yeah, not touching the: "I actually have a thing to say to guys who play video games," he said. "When a woman joins the game, like ... don't be a dick."

part with a mile long pole. It's just not worth it.

Revnak:
Women are definitely treated worse on the Internet pal, and if you can't figure that out you really need to click that fat, slut, or ugly link (or whatever the order is). I've been on the Internet for a while and I have gotten nowhere near the level of shit that site shows women getting.

I dunno man, I know plenty of websites where women are treated as... Well, I want to say just another guy but that wouldn't fit, but you know what I mean.

Funnily enough, I can think of some websites that are hostile toward men. It's easy to get lost in a bog of sexism when all you browse is The Escapist and other gaming websites, but they're not the only websites out there you know.

Mr Cwtchy:
Take out the 'day' part of this and it's got my support.

And yeah, not touching the: "I actually have a thing to say to guys who play video games," he said. "When a woman joins the game, like ... don't be a dick."

part with a mile long pole. It's just not worth it.

That was said in 2011, during a conference where this issue was on discussion and I think it was a bit silly for the author of the article to mention it.

That said, it's hilarious how quickly that somewhat relevant, but contextually different comment became the focus of some of the posters here. The point completely flying over their head because... what? They feel like they are being accussed of something from a year ago?

I think I might bookmark this page for future retorts.

Captcha: Fezes are cool

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That they are Captcha... always the pinnacle of fashionable statements this guy!

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