Final Fantasy VII Accidentally Re-released

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Final Fantasy VII Accidentally Re-released

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Square Enix launches the Final Fantasy VII PC re-release then pulls it immediately.

According to the Square Enix forums, a few quick-fingered fans managed to nab digital copies of the forthcoming Final Fantasy VII re-release last night, when it was accidentally listed for sale on the game's website.

Unfortunately, the fans paid $12.70 for a game that doesn't work, as the title's SecuROM DRM won't accept any serial numbers or let them activate the product online. Square Enix pulled the game shortly after its release, which hasn't stopped a small, but vocal, minority from claiming the title's "draconian" DRM is driving them into the always open arms of piracy. The company hasn't commented on the situation as of yet, which has left one customer particularly disgruntled.

"If I do not see any official statement tomorrow," writes one forum user. " I will report the issue to the BBB and I encourage others who purchased the game to do the same. Because customer support's apologies do not make it any less illegal. You cannot take a customer's money, refuse to do a refund and not provide the goods' they paid for."

The fact the game doesn't work hasn't stopped some gamers from rummaging through its files like hungry raccoons. According to reports, the game uses the awful midi soundtrack from the wonky 1998 PC port instead of the version included in the original PSX release. Fortunately, all the files are in the Ogg Vorbis format, meaning it shouldn't be difficult to replace them with tracks from the PSX release, or perhaps some of the swankier orchestral arrangements from one of the many FF7 soundtracks Square Enix has released over the years.

Source: Square Enix Forum

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Oh damn! I'm assuming the release will be any day now; Things like this aren't leaked too far from the date they're usually released.

they complained because it has the original sound files...

areyoufuckingkiddingme.jpg

Anyhoo, who exactly got on and checked and bought this, and for that matter, why would they believe it would work if they KNOW it hasn't officially been released yet. And who in their right minds wouldn't just ask for a refund!

FallenTraveler:
they complained because it has the original sound files...

areyoufuckingkiddingme.jpg

Anyhoo, who exactly got on and checked and bought this, and for that matter, why would they believe it would work if they KNOW it hasn't officially been released yet. And who in their right minds wouldn't just ask for a refund!

The original sound files are the ones on the PSX version.

I almost bought it myself, the page was working and it took people's credit cards. That means, for all intents and purposes, the game had been released, officially. I mean how can Square unofficially release a DD title on their own site?

FallenTraveler:
they complained because it has the original sound files...

areyoufuckingkiddingme.jpg

Anyhoo, who exactly got on and checked and bought this, and for that matter, why would they believe it would work if they KNOW it hasn't officially been released yet. And who in their right minds wouldn't just ask for a refund!

They're complaining that the original PC sound files were absolute garbage when compared to the sound files from the PS1 version. So yea, it's 2012 put in the better version of the sound files before you charge money for it.

Also last I checked there was no set in stone release date, it's coming soon. So why would you not think that it was released when it was on their store page for sale. And since it's only for sale through the Square Enix store that's obviously the place people are checking.

I wouldn't begrudge them for going to the BBB, they legally bought the game and now they cant play it at all because Square is too retarded to make it work right.

Also no harm in getting the game out there early so the crackers can get a go at it, seriously, there are people who still use Securom? Atleast it isnt Star Force

Why put DRM on an 11 year old game for its re-release?
Everyone who wants to pirate it already has so what the hell.

FallenTraveler:
they complained because it has the original sound files...

areyoufuckingkiddingme.jpg

Anyhoo, who exactly got on and checked and bought this, and for that matter, why would they believe it would work if they KNOW it hasn't officially been released yet. And who in their right minds wouldn't just ask for a refund!

Hell yes they're complaining. The original PC ports sound was atrocious compared to the Playstation release. I get the feeling you're a bit confused by that.

So yeah, 2012, if you can't even release the highest quality of the game on PC's for a pretty hefty price (for a game that old) why even bother. Damn straight I'd be a bit miffed.
It just screams 'we're doing minimal effort for some quick dosh'. Which is not what a re-release should be, it should be the highest grade you've ever released it as and if possible with extra features.

I know it's not ready, but still... they have a right to be asking 'what the hey?'. It went on sale, so damage control needs to be done. This isn't entitlement, this is just fair. Refund their money, apologize, state that the game is still in the process of being complete. Done.

Aside from the fact that the game has DRM despite being so old, why the fuck SecuROM? Anyone who uses that on their game deserves to be sent to a special level of hell. Recently I bought Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2 which were re released on disc. Guess what, the stupid piece of shit uses SecuROM and requires an internet connection to start.

Are people still eager to actually buy a re-release of a decade old game? And for $13? Sheesh.

While this Was obviously a really dumb move on SE's part I'm also surprised that people are lettin something using Securom on their computers

Stabbed through the heart,
and the soundtrack's lame.
Square Enix,
You give FF a bad name.

I paid my part, let me play your game.
You give FF, a bad name.

With incidents like this, I seriously wish the gaming industry would invest more resources in teaching developers the value of customer service and PR. Every week a company is making a stupid lapse in logic, and then screwing themselves over by handling the fallout poorly.

You accepted their money when you put the game online - just give the fans who bought it the ability to play the game. Those are probably the diehards who have likely downloaded it for free in the past off torrent sites because they couldn't find a new copy.

The worst part of the music isn't that it's the old MIDI music. It's that they converted it to OGG, but used the MIDI crap as a source. It's like they set up the framework to improve on the sound, and then shoehorned the old crap into the new framework.

I've been doing some investigation into the files of the new one (I may not be able to activate and play, but I do have it downloaded!) and I can tell what they HAVE improved. The music is OGGs, so it should be REALLY easy to replace them with better ones. The FMVs are all upscaled, and look much better than before. The game comes with two shaders, and from what I can gather it will use them to upscale the backgrounds in real-time. I also have strong reason to believe it runs at higher resolution, based on the FMVs and shaders.

The in-game assets are mostly the same. No textures have been replaced, no backgrounds have been replaced or updated, the dialogue even has the same typos (handicapp). Any updates to this are strictly engine.

The way they were updated is unique. The DRM is at the beginning of the exe, the ENTIRE OLD EXE is intact in the middle, and all the new code (7MB out of 12MB total) is at the end. It's like they didn't have the source code, so they wrote around the old version. As such, it's tough to say what from the old one is actually used.

All in all, this seems like a decent update to the game, but nothing that mods didn't already offer.

P.S. Thanks

You'd think that people would just emulate it, at this point.

OT: As long as Square gives these people refunds and/or a working copy of the game, I'm not too upset about this.

If not, then yeah, the guys in charge of this are a bunch of incompetent dicks.

You paid $12.70.

- For a 15 year old game.
- That looks like crap now.
- That still doesn't have a real ending (yes, they tacked one on when they ran out of time/budget).
- And it uses SecuROM.

You know when he keeps hitting you it's not really because he loves you, right?

FelixG:
I wouldn't begrudge them for going to the BBB, they legally bought the game and now they cant play it at all because Square is too retarded to make it work right.

What sounds pretty retarded to me is that they're officially complaining that the game they weren't supposed to be able to buy yet won't work yet. Yes, Square Enix screwed up... but it's a minor thing and will be fixed the second the game goes live at the time it was supposed to.

Goof followed by goof, eh? If you're going to re-release what many people think of as your best game, you'd think you'd put a bit more effort into it.

NuclearShadow:
I find it interesting that they didn't issue refunds straight away after people made the purchases. I'm sure they plan to but they really should have immediately sent out a apology to all people who were effected by this and refunded at the same time.

As for the disgruntled customer's rant he actually would be wrong mattering on the laws in his geographical area. Here in America software can legally be sold without warranty or any insurance that the software will operate, and worst of all the right to revoke the usage without warning/reason/or refund. In-fact if this was a act of termination done if the EULA states that upon termination the contents much be destroyed those who bought the game could be held legally responsible for choosing to have it remain as it is a breach of contract. Not that I think Square would do something that low.

EULA's are generally not legally binding since they're agreed to after the sale takes place.

complaining about a game that wasn't officially released hmm what ever floats there boat or yacht i suppose

Buretsu:

FelixG:
I wouldn't begrudge them for going to the BBB, they legally bought the game and now they cant play it at all because Square is too retarded to make it work right.

What sounds pretty retarded to me is that they're officially complaining that the game they weren't supposed to be able to buy yet won't work yet. Yes, Square Enix screwed up... but it's a minor thing and will be fixed the second the game goes live at the time it was supposed to.

Even if it wasnt supposed to be released yet it was released, you cant go back in time so you need to honor what was done.

And how long exactly are people who payed money for a product supposed to wait before they are allowed to get pissed that a company took their money but wont let them use the product they payed for?

DVS BSTrD:
Stabbed through the heart,
and the soundtrack's lame.
Square Enix,
You give FF a bad name.

I paid my part, let me play your game.
You give FF, a bad name.

Must... not... applaud...

OT: Why not allow refunds? I'd like to know their rationale behind that.

FelixG:

Buretsu:

FelixG:
I wouldn't begrudge them for going to the BBB, they legally bought the game and now they cant play it at all because Square is too retarded to make it work right.

What sounds pretty retarded to me is that they're officially complaining that the game they weren't supposed to be able to buy yet won't work yet. Yes, Square Enix screwed up... but it's a minor thing and will be fixed the second the game goes live at the time it was supposed to.

Even if it wasnt supposed to be released yet it was released, you cant go back in time so you need to honor what was done.

And how long exactly are people who payed money for a product supposed to wait before they are allowed to get pissed that a company took their money but wont let them use the product they payed for?

They won't wait any longer than everybody else who's been waiting for the game's release. The only difference is that they're the only ones who put in what amounts to the oopsie equivalent of a pre-order.

Can I just get a patch? I already bought this game for PC... What was it 14 years ago?

Wait, so they added DRM to a re-release of a PSX game that you can find an emulator of the console and the ISO in minutes? Square, I think you just went full retard.

The BBB can't do anything if the Business isn't part of the BBB. Even if they were, they are not a legal entity and do not carry the force of law.

shadow741:
Wait, so they added DRM to a re-release of a PSX game that you can find an emulator of the console and the ISO in minutes? Square, I think you just went full retard.

The re-re-release of the game has up-rezzed textures/models.

It's like Square Enix are the mean parents; "Sure, I love you. Here, have candy." Child reaches out for candy, "No! You wait to be handed it, no candy for you! Go to your room!"

Only reason I can think of for this kind of shabbiness.

oldtaku:
You paid $12.70.

- For a 15 year old game.
- That looks like crap now.
- That still doesn't have a real ending (yes, they tacked one on when they ran out of time/budget).
- And it uses SecuROM.

You know when he keeps hitting you it's not really because he loves you, right?

Thank you, good sir/ma'am. This is what I've been saying all this time! *Sigh*

OT: I'm a FF fan. I really am. My favorite FF was FFVIII and FFIX. I thought FFVII was...okay. Well, actually, I hated it. When they started releasing all the spin-offs and fans started claiming it was the best game ever and that's why it was the only game that deserved their attention, I got a little pissed. To me, the game didn't have a good ending (Don't feed me that "Abstract" ending crap. Cutting from a big event to 500 years later without an explanation is a bad ending that they tried to cover up with two sequels). But alright, I said. At least they're trying.

But when I heard they were literally re-releasing the same game only now was just utter bullshit. I wouldn't mind re-buying a game as long as it looks better (MGS, Jak and Daxter, DMC, etc.) but if it looks and feels the same as that game from 10 years ago, then why buy it again? I still got my original copy.

Oh, Square Enix. Sometimes I wonder where you went wrong...

Since there are mods that do a better job, you have to wonder why anyone would pay that much for this re-release. In all honesty, I can't see a good reason to buy this one, unless you don't own another version of the game anymore (maybe a compatibility issue? Did they took their time to make the game run smoothly on current PCs?).

haha there is so much fail in this story

Beautiful End:

But when I heard they were literally re-releasing the same game only now was just utter bullshit. I wouldn't mind re-buying a game as long as it looks better (MGS, Jak and Daxter, DMC, etc.) but if it looks and feels the same as that game from 10 years ago, then why buy it again? I still got my original copy.

Because a lot of people don't have an original copy. And if you try to find an original copy today, it will cost several times what you'll be able to get this re-release for.

You'll pay no less than $30 on eBay, and at least $50 on Amazon.

aceman67:
The re-re-release of the game has up-rezzed textures/models.

There's a fan-mod that does the same thing PLUS adds in the PS1/X sounds.

To me this seems to just ANOTHER shitty port (of a mediocre JRPG I might add) that's there to cash in on retarded fans who don't know how to use google.

Then again, this IS Square-ENIX, who hasn't MADE a 'noteworthy' JRPG in nearly a decade or so.

:/

Stupid entitled pricks. Just because you bought a game early doesn't mean you're allowed to pirate it. Just wait until the game is released properly like everyone else.

Yet more evidence for the 'Squeenix has no clue what it is doing' outlook.

But yes, those who already purchased the game are entitled to it, however they may have to wait and think of it as a pre-order :p

This thread is both hilarious and sad at the same time.

There's people who paid money for a product that just plain doesn't work at all entirely due to the fault of the producer with no refund being given and some people here are saying they shouldn't complain?

Are you guys serious?

Scrustle:
Stupid entitled pricks. Just because you bought a game early doesn't mean you're allowed to pirate it. Just wait until the game is released properly like everyone else.

You bet they are entitled to play a game THEY PAID FOR. I can't believe I am still surprised that people like you still can't use the word entitled in its proper context. When you purchase a game legally you are fully within your rights to play it.

As for the piracy issue, I honestly care less and less about people pirating products as long as I see developers and publishers crapping on their customers. DRM on a game over a decade old, and said DRM is whats stopping the PAYING CUSTOMERS from playing the game THEY PAID FOR. It is just utter BS and its crap like this that makes me just say oh well when you see the supposed high piracy rates.

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