Daredevil Film Rights Returning to Marvel Studios

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Daredevil Film Rights Returning to Marvel Studios

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Fox's attempt to produce a new Daredevil motion picture fell through at the last possible moment.

In the old days, when a studio thought they could make a profitable superhero movie, it would need to license exclusive film rights from the copyright holder or comic book company that owned them. Fast forward to today, and comic book companies like Marvel now have access to movie studios of their own, and can directly support their own versions of the stories and characters. This doesn't bode well for any studio whose licenses are nearing their expiration dates, at which point they would revert back to Marvel to be produced entirely in-house. Such is the case for Fox's film rights to Daredevil, which according to Deadline slipped through the studio's grasp when Fox neglected to greenlight a pitch by director Joe Carnahan.

To prevent the rights from expiring, Fox would need to have a Daredevil movie in production by October of this year, which required the project to be greenlit this week. The Grey director Joe Carnahan was in talks to do just that, but considering that Fox's last take on the character failed miserably, the studio was understandably reluctant to develop anything other than a guaranteed moneymaker. "I think my idea for a certain retro, red-suited, Serpico-styled superhero went up in smoke today kids," Carnahan tweeted yesterday. "DD pitch was tremendous and everyone flipped for it. The clock ticked down at Fox, that's why it went tits up."

As the cinematic Marvel Universe continues to grow, it is in Marvel's best interest to regain many of their licensed film rights. Fox and Sony are unlikely to release the rights to their X-Men and Spider-Man properties anytime soon, but less popular franchises could easily make the transition to Marvel Studios, like the rights to Blade that recently expired for New Line.

While a Fox-produced Daredevil is no longer an option, perhaps Carnahan will get a chance to pitch his concept to Marvel's producers. It was his hope to adapt Frank Miller and David Mazzucchelli's Born Again, a street-level crime storyline in which the Kingpin discovers Daredevil's secret identify, into a full-fledged motion picture. Carnahan has since released video versions of his pitch on YouTube, including the one embedded below and an NC-17 version.

Sources: Deadline, Hollywood Reporter
Image: Marvel

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This is awesome news! Let's hope they make the same blunder with Fantastic Four. Anyone know how long they have before they lose the rights to them as well?

Am I the only one who thinks the fact that Marvel has to pray other studios give them back the rights to their own IP is absurd? I mean, I know that's how the law works, but the very fact that Marvel can't just say "Sorry guys, we won't be renewing your rights to Spider-Man" and then get their IP back after a period of time, but rather the studio that licences the IP can keep renewing the rights indefinitely as long as they make at least SOME kind of poop-fest every few years (say, like with the latest Spider-Man movie) is quite frankly just wrong.

Yes, the studios that bought the licences should be protected so Mavel can't just yank the licence out from under them in the middle of production, but the fact that Marvel can't just get their shit back and has to hope someone else fucks up or gives up makes it feel like the law is retarded...

Now just Spider-man and the X-men and we can get some serious movie fun going!

Jandau:
Am I the only one who thinks the fact that Marvel has to pray other studios give them back the rights to their own IP is absurd?

Considering how far up shit creek without a paddle Marvel was financially when they sold these rights I don't think its absurd that they signed them away with such clauses to avoid shutting down. However me understanding and me liking it are two separate things.

Also hasn't Punisher fallen back under Marvel as well?

Could not care less about DD but I would love it if Fox would let the Fantastic Four go. I really want a good FF movie. Almost as much as I want a Doctor Strange movie (but we are getting a stupid Ant Man movie instead. I love you Marvel but why him damn you!?)

toomuchnothing:
Also hasn't Punisher fallen back under Marvel as well?

It has and considering there are rumors that Disney requires all of Marvel's films to be PG-13 and merchandised for children, it's basically the end of the character as anything more than a cameo.

toomuchnothing:
Also hasn't Punisher fallen back under Marvel as well?

Yes, yes they have. I forget who it was, but there was talk about doing another Punisher movie, not about the Punisher, but about Frank Castle and his origin. Basically dealing with his family, his loss, then losing it at the end. There was also some dealings regarding the Fantastic Four. Marvel asked for the rights to use Galactus, possibly in the next Avengers movie, but Fox turned them down.

toomuchnothing:

Jandau:
Am I the only one who thinks the fact that Marvel has to pray other studios give them back the rights to their own IP is absurd?

Considering how far up shit creek without a paddle Marvel was financially when they sold these rights I don't think its absurd that they signed them away with such clauses to avoid shutting down. However me understanding and me liking it are two separate things.

Also hasn't Punisher fallen back under Marvel as well?

My Step Dad almost bought Marvel stock in 95'... wish he had :P

Is there anyone who cares about Daredevil? I had completely forgotten this superhero existed until I read the article.

AlexanderPeregrine:

toomuchnothing:
Also hasn't Punisher fallen back under Marvel as well?

It has and considering there are rumors that Disney requires all of Marvel's films to be PG-13 and merchandised for children, it's basically the end of the character as anything more than a cameo.

Rumors of what Disney may or may not want are irrelevant. The fact that the last 2 Punisher movies failed may have more to do with hesitation to pull the trigger on this one.

Fappy:
This is awesome news! Let's hope they make the same blunder with Fantastic Four. Anyone know how long they have before they lose the rights to them as well?

They have a reboot planned for 2014, but will lose the rights to it if they don't have it out by 2015

Ranorak:
Now just Spider-man and the X-men and we can get some serious movie fun going!

Yeah, Not going to happen. Sony is preproducing the next Amazing Spider-man right now.

Fox is filming the Wolverine as we speak and will begin production for the First Class Sequel.

Also, Spider-man still has about 100 enemies that could be potential villains, 15 of whom are recognizable and not D-List.

Also by the time Sony gets around to using the Blood Rose or Batroc the Leaper, there will be enough time that's passed and some of the already dead villains can come back into play.

Same with X-Men.

As long as they are cheaply made, less than 50 million, they will turn a profit. Even if they fail in the future, they will become so tarnished with failure that Mavel will be hesitant to use them in their combined movie universe.

So no Spider-Man or Wolverine in the Avengers movie. Just have to accept that they are not a part of the movie universe.

Man you'd have to be blind not to see this coming!

If i was Fox i would make a movie like that cartoon lord of the rings movie and then sell the rights.

The Frank Miller Born Again storyline is one of my favorite graphic novels. I'm pretty sure I am up to the double digits in reads. It would make a nice movie but it kind of picks up in the middle of DD's existence. I am not sure how that will translate to an audience that may not be familiar with the Man without fear and is used to their superhero movies having an origin phase.

Jandau:
I mean, I know that's how the law works...

...makes it feel like the law is retarded...

I think it's a contract, not a law. This is simply the terms that the parties involved agreed to at the time the rights were sold.

Did Marvel get the ghost rider movie rights back yet? If so then it really is just spiderman and. X-men that need to fall

Edit - I forgot about the Fantastic Four

It should only take one look at my avatar for it to be clear that this makes me happy. DD is one of my favorite heroes. Personally, I hope that Carnahan and Marvel can work something out...

Vault Citizen:
Did Marvel get the ghost rider movie rights back yet? If so then it really is just spiderman and. X-men that need to fall

No, there was a Ghost Rider movie earlier this year. But since it was even worse than the already pretty bad first one, it bombed in the box office. So in all likelihood Marvel will be getting the rights back to Ghost Rider as soon as possible now.

Jandau:
Am I the only one who thinks the fact that Marvel has to pray other studios give them back the rights to their own IP is absurd? I mean, I know that's how the law works, but the very fact that Marvel can't just say "Sorry guys, we won't be renewing your rights to Spider-Man" and then get their IP back after a period of time, but rather the studio that licences the IP can keep renewing the rights indefinitely as long as they make at least SOME kind of poop-fest every few years (say, like with the latest Spider-Man movie) is quite frankly just wrong.

Yes, the studios that bought the licences should be protected so Mavel can't just yank the licence out from under them in the middle of production, but the fact that Marvel can't just get their shit back and has to hope someone else fucks up or gives up makes it feel like the law is retarded...

I thought of it the same way. Than someone described it to me like this[1]:

Think of it like a loan. A bank loans money to a person, and that person can use that money to buy a car. If that person keeps paying back the loan, no problem. If that person however doesnt pay back the loan, the car gets taken away.

Ignoring the over-simplification, just swap out a few words, and you get the same idea.

[1] This is paraphrasing

They couldn't be trusted with that license anyway >.>
Hopefully he'll have a good movie coming down the line.

Union Jack > All other street-level crime fighters. I actually think that a modern day Union Jack film, in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, would work pretty well. Marvel have already set themselves up for it, by giving the British guy from First Avenger the same name as the original Union Jack. The story would involve him becoming the Union Jack in post-war Britain and then handing the reins over to Joe Chapman in the present day, roughly like the origin story from the comics. A guest appearance from Captain America, just like in the comics, would add extra awesome.

Damn this is not good as the rumor was that Marvel was willing to extend the Daredevil licence in exchange for immediate shared access to Galaxus and Silver Surfer but it seems that now that won't happen.

So apart from Thanos and Galaxus who else are BIG enemies for the Avengers to fight other than whole alien races of fodder?

DVS BSTrD:
Man you'd have to be blind not to see this coming!

Ha ha! Obvious pun. But good one, sir!

Mr. Omega:
It should only take one look at my avatar for it to be clear that this makes me happy. DD is one of my favorite heroes. Personally, I hope that Carnahan and Marvel can work something out...

Hoping to see Bullseye in the movies again, huh? Well, considering what happened to him in the comics...
But yeah, I'm expecting Marvel Studios to do right by the Man Without Fear. The comic's been tons o' fun since Mark Waid took over writing.

That's good! Marvel studios tend to make, at least, cash-grabs with quality in them.

So can we get Daredevil in Avengers 2: The Wrath of Khan?

I'm really happy about this since I really like daredevil and think he is awesome. Let's hope the Marvel
film can kick ass.

Score one for the Marvel Movie-verse...

Bullfrogg:

Vault Citizen:
Did Marvel get the ghost rider movie rights back yet? If so then it really is just spiderman and. X-men that need to fall

No, there was a Ghost Rider movie earlier this year. But since it was even worse than the already pretty bad first one, it bombed in the box office. So in all likelihood Marvel will be getting the rights back to Ghost Rider as soon as possible now.

I actually enjoyed the first Ghost Rider movie, it wasn't a great flick, but certainly not bad. However, and this is me speaking as a Ghost Rider fan, that second movie was absolutely a travesty. It still boggles the mind how any director could actually look at the finished product and say: "yeah, this is good".

I am really hoping that Ghost Rider returns to Marvel, so that they can give the poor guy some dignity and a proper movie.

"And nothing of value was lost"
-Fox

Now the question rises, would it be worth it having DareDevil somewhere in the Avengers 2 movie? Personally I'm on the fence there. On one hand, hooray they have the character back, on the other, would they really WANT to make a movie with him? Or even as a supporting role in something sounds iffy.

Jandau:
Am I the only one who thinks the fact that Marvel has to pray other studios give them back the rights to their own IP is absurd? I mean, I know that's how the law works, but the very fact that Marvel can't just say "Sorry guys, we won't be renewing your rights to Spider-Man" and then get their IP back after a period of time, but rather the studio that licences the IP can keep renewing the rights indefinitely as long as they make at least SOME kind of poop-fest every few years (say, like with the latest Spider-Man movie) is quite frankly just wrong.

No, it's nothing to do with how the law works. It has to do entirely with the rights that Marvel willingly sold to the other studios. And those clauses are what got Marvel a good chunk of the money that Marvel needed to develop their own studio.. because let's be honest, the rights to all of these heroes aren't worth near as much if, the moment you've got a successful franchise running, Marvel can stop you from making the sequels and make their own instead.

Be glad that they're using this system rather than the older one of simply signing the rights over for X number of movies.

Thank god. If the movie reverts back to Marvel, that means more continuity in the films. No more not being allowed to mention someone just because they are attached to a license owned by another studio. If the movies are going to be bad, I would rather have them be bad by a studio that owns all the properties and can at least mention Tony Stark in a Daredevil film (as an example).

I am one of the apparent few that enjoys the Director's Cut of Daredevil. But, well, I'm glad Marvel has the rights back.

The thing is, I keep hearing people going "will he now be in Avengers 2"? Think BIGGER people.

Marvel could do some great things now, like an Iron Fist & Luke Cage (Heroes for Hire) movie, as those two have crossed paths with Daredevil quite frequently lately.

I like this. Daredevil is like a mix of Punisher and Spidey. Which means incorporating him into the Avengers should work perfectly. We can finally stop acting like Black Widow is a superhero!

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