Notch Tweets Rage Over Minecraft Party Sexual Assault

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it was quickly going into creeper territory

creeper territory

creeper

Yeah... when I get sexually harassed, my first response is to make puns based on video games.

Is this originally from the Onion or something?

Fuck the dickhead, fuck the pig guard, and sort-of fuck the victim for not causing a scene and alerting everyone to it.

Everyone loses. Squee to Notch for being pissed at this.

Captcha: bigger in texas... Wait, WHAT.

chadachada123:

Lyri:

2: So from what you're saying is that it's insulting to you because they assume you'd suffer like they did?
You're not very empathetic are you? Someone who has gone through those very experiences probably couldn't see how you wouldn't react like they did.
There is some serious arrogance in your statement, you could only guess how you would react and not say for definite.

3: Do you even realise how far you're running with such a minor point right now? Someone assumed you would need help if you were to suffer such an attack and you're actually reacting like they're infringing upon you somehow? lol
As I said, delicate flower.

4That analogy is completely off and it isn't over generalizing it's just an assumption. Either way, none of those two are insulting.

5: Because you're calling "You would probably suffer just as much as anybody else" insane. That's why.
Again, it belittles nobody so stop playing that card.

Empathetic is not equivalent to saying that someone WILL go through the very same experience. I'm very capable of empathy. I'm very capable of looking at someone's situation and seeing how THEY could suffer from it.

She said I will absolutely be traumatized. She didn't say probably. She didn't say most likely. She said that I absolutely will.

If she would back off and just say "not everyone is alike, but most people yada yada," then we would have never had this problem to begin with.

Number five is the most hilarious and most incorrect of your points, because she did not say "You would probably suffer." She said I WILL suffer.

If you can't see the major distinction between the two (between PROBABLY and ABSOLUTELY), then there's no sense in continuing this conversation since we're clearly speaking separate languages.

It shouldn't matter what anybody said. Were you traumatised by an event relating to this discussion? No. Was she? Yes. Surely you could have just dropped it, or apologised for being so tactless.

matthew_lane:

Glass Joe the Champ:
Wow, it's already hard enough to prove gamers aren't socially dysfunctional misogynists without freaks like this showing up. (the guy that is, not the girl of course)

/facepalm. Him being a gamer doesn't make him any better or worse by distinction of being a gamer. I could change around your statement to read

NOT Glass Joe the Champ:
Wow, it's already hard enough to prove people who eat cereal for breakfast aren't socially dysfunctional misogynists without freaks like this showing up.

And it would be no less of a silly connection to make.

It don't mean that him being a gamer makes any difference to the story, what I mean is that the news media could easily twist the story into a narrative about the "horrible things videogames do to people" or whatever, like they've done in the past. I'm not saying it makes any logical sense, but it's still something that could sway some of the thicker folks out there.

So we're just going to completely ignore that there's nothing but the unsubstantiated claim of a drunk woman to base this stuff on? Clearly, she couldn't possibly be in any way exaggerating or even lying? Nope. Let's hate on unnamed asian guy, errybody!

FelixG:

BehattedWanderer:
Get them. Get both culpable parties. Get the jerk who did it, and get the guard who dismissed it as nothing. This needs to be taken more seriously. Get them. Mike, Jerry, Notch, do whatever you guys need to do--find them.

it has been said before, but I guess ya missed all the times it was said, so I will say it again.

What exactly was the guard to do? There were no witnesses, she had been drinking, and her best description was 'a small asian guy.'

Legally all you can do as security is shrug. At the worst the security officer is guilty of being insensitive. If he had witnessed the act, then it would be a different story, but as it stood it was hearsay and not actionable.

Edit: Changed the tense, damn not sleeping enough

He could have done a lot. He could have reported it, followed through, gone to the area where it happened to see if the guy was around. He could have taken it to any one of the event organizers, sought more information about the person (for instance, hair length, color, clothes being worn, notable facial features), or just pass along the information to someone more helpful, instead of shrugging it off as just a thing. So sexual harassment is fine, when there are no witnesses and someone has been drinking? No. No it most definitely is not, in case there was any doubt in your mind. These kinds of events absolutely need to be reported, and the people responsible need to be held accountable. Even if the guard had no legal option, he could have called for someone that has the legal power to help. Passing it off as "not my problem" or "what can you do" is part of the problem. Tolerance for this kind of thing is why it continues to happen, and in defending it, you defend all forms of sexual assault.

anthony87:
HA HA U R TEH FUNNAY

No, what's -really- funny is I'm not gay, but would nonetheless enjoy brutally sodomizing you on principle.

hooksashands:

anthony87:
HA HA U R TEH FUNNAY

No, what's -really- funny is I'm not gay, but would nonetheless enjoy brutally sodomizing you on principle.

Well I'm flattered and all that but if you go back a page or two you'll see my post about the time some gay dude shoved his tongue in my ear, it very clearly outlines that I'm not into that kinda stuff.

hooksashands:

anthony87:
HA HA U R TEH FUNNAY

No, what's -really- funny is I'm not gay, but would nonetheless enjoy brutally sodomizing you on principle.

How against sexual harassment can you be when you threaten people with rape?

hooksashands:

anthony87:
HA HA U R TEH FUNNAY

No, what's -really- funny is I'm not gay, but would nonetheless enjoy brutally sodomizing you on principle.

Oh you flirt you. I'd even blush for you, I'm sure.

hooksashands:

I'm calling all three of you out. Your attitudes are indicative of this whole situation and each echos the same toothless sentiment:

"Oh well, not my problem."

Except it is your problem. It's her problem. It's the creeper's problem. And it's most definitely the security guard's problem.

It's so fucking sad when Notch/Gabe/Tycho have to take responsibility for this, simply because you're all too busy playing devil's advocate to admit MAYBE there ought to be consequences for certain illegal and morally reprehensible acts, like pulling your dick out in public and literally forcing someone to touch it.

-"The security guard wasn't there when it happened."
-"She was drunk."
-"It was a large crowd."

...are not valid excuses. By extension of this shitty logic, rapists are totally in the clear unless the victim is sober and being violated in plain sight of an authority figure.

I'm on forum probation, but I feel like it's worth being suspended when I say from the bottom of my heart to each of you: Fuck off. Leave this community. I'm embarrassed to be associated with you in even the slightest way. You are sub-human ogres with little or no redeeming qualities and I sincerely hope karma comes in the form of a large cell mate who makes you his bitch during your inevitable prison sentences.

"It's so fucking sad when Notch/Gabe/Tycho have to take responsibility for this, simply because you're all too busy playing devil's advocate to admit MAYBE there ought to be consequences for certain illegal and morally reprehensible acts, like pulling your dick out in public and literally forcing someone to touch it."

Nobody has denied that there SHOULD be consequences, but the reality of the situation is that there most likely won't be because the situation is what it is. Sexual harassment cases and similar things are always difficult to deal with, and this one crosses the threshold in both difficulty to investigate and prosecut and harmlessness to society that it most likely won't be seen in court.

This is the reality of the situation; if you can't see it, either you know nothing of the subject or close your eyes and go "lalalalalala".

-"The security guard wasn't there when it happened."

Then do tell, with your superior knowledge about the authority and job description of the average security guard, what action could he have taken? Other than calling the police, which she could have done by herself, there was nothing that he could do, expect turn vigilante, become batman and catching him.

-"It was a large crowd."

But this is a valid reason. The police can conduct a search for this man, and maybe find him and bring him to justice, but the security guard can't. Again, take it to the police.

"I'm on forum probation, but I feel like it's worth being suspended when I say from the bottom of my heart to each of you: Fuck off. Leave this community. I'm embarrassed to be associated with you in even the slightest way. You are sub-human ogres with little or no redeeming qualities and I sincerely hope karma comes in the form of a large cell mate who makes you his bitch during your inevitable prison sentences."

What does this have to do with anything? You launch an attack at me, telling I am scum, without apparently even reading my post or understanding my point. Classy, dear sir.

Go Notch! Shame Ky probably will forget what this arsehole looks like.

OniaPL:

"It's so fucking sad when Notch/Gabe/Tycho have to take responsibility for this, simply because you're all too busy playing devil's advocate to admit MAYBE there ought to be consequences for certain illegal and morally reprehensible acts, like pulling your dick out in public and literally forcing someone to touch it."

Nobody has denied that there SHOULD be consequences, but the reality of the situation is that there most likely won't be because the situation is what it is. Sexual harassment cases and similar things are always difficult to deal with, and this one crosses the threshold in both difficulty to investigate and prosecut and harmlessness to society that it most likely won't be seen in court.

This is the reality of the situation; if you can't see it, either you know nothing of the subject or close your eyes and go "lalalalalala".

-"The security guard wasn't there when it happened."

Then do tell, with your superior knowledge about the authority and job description of the average security guard, what action could he have taken? Other than calling the police, which she could have done by herself, there was nothing that he could do, expect turn vigilante, become batman and catching him.

-"It was a large crowd."

But this is a valid reason. The police can conduct a search for this man, and maybe find him and bring him to justice, but the security guard can't. Again, take it to the police.

"I'm on forum probation, but I feel like it's worth being suspended when I say from the bottom of my heart to each of you: Fuck off. Leave this community. I'm embarrassed to be associated with you in even the slightest way. You are sub-human ogres with little or no redeeming qualities and I sincerely hope karma comes in the form of a large cell mate who makes you his bitch during your inevitable prison sentences."

What does this have to do with anything? You launch an attack at me, telling I am scum, without apparently even reading my post or understanding my point. Classy, dear sir.

Awh don't go and LOGIC him! He'll run off talking about how he's on probation as if it's some sort of big deal if you go ahead and do that!

Should have ripped his little, insecure Asian penis off.

That is, if it was big enough to have a grip. I don't care if the guy was drunk, is it so hard to hire a prostitute these days?

blalien:
I am getting more and more fed up with the Escapist community with every post about sexual assault getting more jokes than anger in response. I sincerely hope the guy responsible gets caught and punished to the full extent of the law, and the security company issues a public apology immediately.

And I am getting fed up with the need for people to turn every threat in the Escapist in a "gender issues" battleground.

I prefer jokes over rage fuel that only piss me off.

Evil Smurf:
Go Notch! Shame Ky probably will forget what this arsehole looks like.

Yeah, plus those Asian guys always look the sa... nvm.

The Plunk:

hooksashands:

I'm on forum probation, but I feel like it's worth being suspended when I say from the bottom of my heart to each of you: Fuck off. Leave this community. I'm embarrassed to be associated with you in even the slightest way. You are sub-human ogres with little or no redeeming qualities and I sincerely hope karma comes in the form of a large cell mate who makes you his bitch during your inevitable prison sentences.

hooksashands:

anthony87:
HA HA U R TEH FUNNAY

No, what's -really- funny is I'm not gay, but would nonetheless enjoy brutally sodomizing you on principle.

"You have a different opinion from me because you are not automatically sympathetic to people that claim to have been sexually assaulted, therefore you should be raped."

Wow, I'm really quite impressed. Hypocritical moralfags usually have much worse spelling than this.

You....you don't happen to post on the Dead Baby Jokes page on Facebook do you? Because your post is EXACTLY like the posts that you'd see on that page.

"Then he grabbed my free wrist and put it on his crotch and asked 'Is this big enough?'

Well that escalated quickly...

That would have been bad enough, but he had also pulled his dick out through the zipper of his pants,

image

See, this is why we can't have nice things!

In all seriousness, this sucks and I hope they somehow catch the guy, maybe he'll show up at the next one and she will be able to point him out and they can do something about it.

hooksashands:

anthony87:
HA HA U R TEH FUNNAY

No, what's -really- funny is I'm not gay, but would nonetheless enjoy brutally sodomizing you on principle.

I think we found the guy that was at the party.

anthony87:

The Plunk:

hooksashands:

I'm on forum probation, but I feel like it's worth being suspended when I say from the bottom of my heart to each of you: Fuck off. Leave this community. I'm embarrassed to be associated with you in even the slightest way. You are sub-human ogres with little or no redeeming qualities and I sincerely hope karma comes in the form of a large cell mate who makes you his bitch during your inevitable prison sentences.

hooksashands:

No, what's -really- funny is I'm not gay, but would nonetheless enjoy brutally sodomizing you on principle.

"You have a different opinion from me because you are not automatically sympathetic to people that claim to have been sexually assaulted, therefore you should be raped."

Wow, I'm really quite impressed. Hypocritical moralfags usually have much worse spelling than this.

You....you don't happen to post on the Dead Baby Jokes page on Facebook do you? Because your post is EXACTLY like the posts that you'd see on that page.

Na, I prefer "Cancer is funny cause people die" for my daily dose of butthurt tears.

Disgusting act, but as far as that kinda shit goes it doesn't irk a rage in me.

Stryc9:

"People tell me I should've called the cops or screamed or made a huge scene, but I didn't want that type of attention and the reaction of the security guard made me feel like cops would be even more of a waste," she wrote.

Especially Seattle police, they probably would've identified her as a threat and shot her after severely beating the crap out of her.

Seriously though, it sounds like maybe they should hire better security for next time, "What do you expect me to do?" is not a valid response to "Some guy just made me touch his dick!"

Well I don't know the laws in Seattle but as a licenses New York security guard, there's not much he could of done. Maybe he could of gotten the guy kicked out of the even if the victim actually could point him out, but aside from that there's not much else.

A security guard can not legally make a citizens arrest unless he in fact sees the crime happen, nor could he or should he facilitate in helping the girl arrest this guy because if she's wrong he can be sued for slander and false arrest. Nature of the reality. If she wanted him arrested she should of called the police and made a police report.

BehattedWanderer:

FelixG:

BehattedWanderer:
Get them. Get both culpable parties. Get the jerk who did it, and get the guard who dismissed it as nothing. This needs to be taken more seriously. Get them. Mike, Jerry, Notch, do whatever you guys need to do--find them.

it has been said before, but I guess ya missed all the times it was said, so I will say it again.

What exactly was the guard to do? There were no witnesses, she had been drinking, and her best description was 'a small asian guy.'

Legally all you can do as security is shrug. At the worst the security officer is guilty of being insensitive. If he had witnessed the act, then it would be a different story, but as it stood it was hearsay and not actionable.

Edit: Changed the tense, damn not sleeping enough

He could have done a lot. He could have reported it, followed through, gone to the area where it happened to see if the guy was around. He could have taken it to any one of the event organizers, sought more information about the person (for instance, hair length, color, clothes being worn, notable facial features), or just pass along the information to someone more helpful, instead of shrugging it off as just a thing. So sexual harassment is fine, when there are no witnesses and someone has been drinking? No. No it most definitely is not, in case there was any doubt in your mind. These kinds of events absolutely need to be reported, and the people responsible need to be held accountable. Even if the guard had no legal option, he could have called for someone that has the legal power to help. Passing it off as "not my problem" or "what can you do" is part of the problem. Tolerance for this kind of thing is why it continues to happen, and in defending it, you defend all forms of sexual assault.

Yeah just posted about this. The most he could of legally done write it in a report and attempt to get the guy kicked out of PAX had she been able to point him out.

She would have to be the one calling the police I believe, he can not call for them to make an arrest because he didn't see the crime happen. Security Guards are just glorified civilians, he can't just call the police and have them arrest someone because the girl tells him too or he's putting himself in severe legal liability.

The girl could of though.

Not to be one of "those guys", but this sounds like a much bigger deal than it needs to be. Holding back tears? Yeah ok. All she needed to do was call the guy a weirdo and walk away. If she felt like it, alert a guard to it as it happened. There was never a moment when she couldn't have just walked away. There was no physical presence stopping her.

I don't know what the ladies expected the guard to do. They reported the incident to him hours after it happened. All she can do is give him a description, and maybe they can find someone.

anthony87:
Well I'm flattered and all that but if you go back a page or two you'll see my post about the time some gay dude shoved his tongue in my ear, it very clearly outlines that I'm not into that kinda stuff.

Oh, shock and surprise. It's only wrong when it happens to you.

wulf3n:
How against sexual harassment can you be when you threaten people with rape?

Very much, as it turns out. He's already giving a sex predator the benefit of a doubt, so why not someone who rapes him?

Boogie Knights:
I think we found the guy that was at the party.

One look at my profile shows that I am neither Asian nor at this year's PAX.

The Plunk:
Wow, I'm really quite impressed. Hypocritical moralfags usually have much worse spelling than this.

That part about being embarassed sharing a community with total fuckwads? Goes double for you.
Demonstrating how the worst part of his own idea can effect him is not hypocrisy. Unless you're saying executioners should feel guilty giving lethal injections to killers, in which case... Lol, moralfag.

Elate:
Right, so here I'm seeing "Drunk creepy guy pulls stupid move" girl blows things out of proportion (pun intended.)

Drunk people, do stupid things, if she really had an issue with the guy she should have got up and walked away, like most sensible adults, even drunk ones can manage that. Ok, he shouldn't have had his dick out in the first place and should probably get done for public indecency, but I consider things like rape sexual assault. Nothing here says he went after her etc, just did something very very stupid and probably felt like a complete ass hat (If he was even sober enough to remember.)

Maybe I'm just not so prudish or something but touching a dudes penis is not really a biggy, he probably thought he was being super smooth or something. While I'm not saying this guy was in the right, he really wasn't, she had ample opportunity to get up and walk away too. Of course now that I've said this I will no doubt be labeled some woman beating, misogynistic, rapist molester from hell or something, cause everything's gotta be black and white yo.

How often do you feel unsafe, or degraded, or sexualized?

Do you feel that way anywhere from once a year to once a month to once a day?

If yes--and only if yes--has this thing happened to you? Even anything like it?

Do you, in fact, have any idea what it feels like to be a woman trying to enjoy herself at a party full of gamers, where she's supposed to feel safe and among friends, and to have her hand grabbed and placed against someone else's naked penis for that person's gratification?

If you answered "no" to any of these questions, maybe you should listen to how that feels instead of fucking telling her how to feel.

hooksashands:

Very much, as it turns out.

Whatever you have to tell yourself.

hooksashands:

He's already giving a sex predator the benefit of a doubt,

You mean he's not lynching the man based solely on hearsay? the MONSTER!

hooksashands:

so why not someone who rapes him?

It's the fact that you said you'd enjoy it that's distrubing

Trilligan:
So many new and exciting ways to downplay sexual assault, blame the victim, and show solidarity for a creeper.

Way to go, guys. Fantastic job you're doing, showing how gamer culture totally doesn't have problems with sexism.

^This here. So this.

I don't even know how to respond to the bullshit being spouted off here. I can't respond in any way other than in extreme anger right now. But you hit the nail on the head there.

anthony87:

OniaPL:

"It's so fucking sad when Notch/Gabe/Tycho have to take responsibility for this, simply because you're all too busy playing devil's advocate to admit MAYBE there ought to be consequences for certain illegal and morally reprehensible acts, like pulling your dick out in public and literally forcing someone to touch it."

Nobody has denied that there SHOULD be consequences, but the reality of the situation is that there most likely won't be because the situation is what it is. Sexual harassment cases and similar things are always difficult to deal with, and this one crosses the threshold in both difficulty to investigate and prosecut and harmlessness to society that it most likely won't be seen in court.

This is the reality of the situation; if you can't see it, either you know nothing of the subject or close your eyes and go "lalalalalala".

-"The security guard wasn't there when it happened."

Then do tell, with your superior knowledge about the authority and job description of the average security guard, what action could he have taken? Other than calling the police, which she could have done by herself, there was nothing that he could do, expect turn vigilante, become batman and catching him.

-"It was a large crowd."

But this is a valid reason. The police can conduct a search for this man, and maybe find him and bring him to justice, but the security guard can't. Again, take it to the police.

"I'm on forum probation, but I feel like it's worth being suspended when I say from the bottom of my heart to each of you: Fuck off. Leave this community. I'm embarrassed to be associated with you in even the slightest way. You are sub-human ogres with little or no redeeming qualities and I sincerely hope karma comes in the form of a large cell mate who makes you his bitch during your inevitable prison sentences."

What does this have to do with anything? You launch an attack at me, telling I am scum, without apparently even reading my post or understanding my point. Classy, dear sir.

Awh don't go and LOGIC him! He'll run off talking about how he's on probation as if it's some sort of big deal if you go ahead and do that!

Security guard could have done an incident report, reported it to the police, gotten a description of the assault and male responsible, as well as reporting to other security guards that an incident had happened and getting his superiors involved as well.

FAR better than doing nothing. Response time could mean everything in catching a sexual predator. Most security I know of always have walkies to communicate as well.

AngelBlackChaos:
Security guard could have done an incident report, reported it to the police, gotten a description of the assault and male responsible, as well as reporting to other security guards that an incident had happened and getting his superiors involved as well.

FAR better than doing nothing. Response time could mean everything in catching a sexual predator. Most security I know of always have walkies to communicate as well.

Does anyone actually KNOW what the security guard did? all we have is the blog from the victim which stated her friends contacted security. So what we have is a third hand account from people who were distraught and admittedly intoxicated.

perhaps we should get facts before criticising.

AngelBlackChaos:
Security guard could have done an incident report, reported it to the police, gotten a description of the assault and male responsible, as well as reporting to other security guards that an incident had happened and getting his superiors involved as well.

FAR better than doing nothing. Response time could mean everything in catching a sexual predator. Most security I know of always have walkies to communicate as well.

The most the IR would have said was along the lines of: "On [Date], VICTIM approached me smelling of alcohol and reported that a man in the VIP area approached her and started up conversation with her of a sexual nature. During the conversation, SUSPECT removed his penis and grabbed her hand and placed it on his genitals. She then reports to have fled the scene and made contact with her friends [Insert names here], VICTIM then came to find me, I was unable to gain a positive description of SUSPECT or verify any witnesses to the incident."

He couldn't have reported it to the police as he wasn't in the area and didnt see it. SHE could call the police with the report, because she was first hand. Security officers are not allowed to report hearsay.

And you are correct there, he could have notified other guards and superiors as well, but we dont know the chain of command of the company or how many officers were present, I have worked contracts before where all my information had to go to my OIC then they would decide if it goes to the client or not.

We have only heard one side of the story, the guard could very well have talked to his officer in charge of the event who then decided that it wasnt something he or the company wanted to bring up to notch.

I am sure we will learn more as the story comes out and notch investigates though.

I think half the posters in this thread need to realise that the only person who was at fault in this is the guy who didn't know...YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO WHIP YOUR DICK OUT AND FORCE PEOPLE TO TOUCH IT WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT.

Is this a fucking complicated concept to grasp.

If tiny had kept his junk in the locked and safed position the worst thing to have happened would be someone having to deal with a socially incompetent humanoid (creeper).

There is no devils advocate position on this.

Your dick....keep it in your pants whilst in public <---- is this something people need taught? do we need a "keeping your genitals safely stored" 101 class for 'gamaers' ?

I mean clearly we need some of "try and not forcibly penetrate non-consenting persons*" basic class so maybe I shouldn't be surprised by this.

*with advance lessons in "No that doesn't mean you can do x other act without consent" where the final exam for needing that class is a .357 hollow point to the base of the skull

NightowlM:

DugMachine:

Boudica:
He's presuming to know what something is like when he has no way of even fathoming it. How he thinks he feels has no bearing on reality. You can think and imagine all you want, but if you don't have the experience, your words are hollow and empty.

Your experience is not universal, get over yourself.

Hahaha Telling sexual assault victims to get over themselves. Hillarious. No really fuck you. And really, fuck all you people trying to minimize this and blame the victim. Fuck off with you're fucking bullshit. If we just removed you assholes in these forums we wouldn't have huge flame wars at the mere mention of sexism/misogyny.

Actually I think if we just removed people like you we would have sophisticated discussions about serious topics, with the occasional joke to lighten the mood. Seriously, get off your high horse, he didn't say sexual assault victims should get over themselves, he said Boudica should get over herself and stop acting like her emotional experiences are universal and must be the same for everyone. Also, no one is blaming the victim, some people are saying that she did not handle the situation properly, and that she should have acted sooner, but no one said "It wouldn't have happened if you hadn't let him put your hand there" or anything like that. No one is trying to minimize it, some people say it is bad, but that it has been blown out of proportion, which it has, and a few are saying it would be nice if there were more facts to support the story then the accounts of intoxicated friends. I'll say it again, seriously, get off your high horse. When you have to resort to "Fuck off with your fucking bullshit", you really just need to stop, take a deep breath, and take a therapeutic bath.

Mmmph. I definitely feel sorry for the girl in this. I do wish she *had* made a scene or at least screamed, though--I have just enough faith in the con-going gamer community to believe that the guy would have wound up being the center of attention of some rather hostile Minecraft fans, and security would have been called to *rescue* him from bodily harm and/or being hung out of a third-story window with more than Mr. Tiny hanging out in the wind.

As for the security guard...Mmph. Definitely a third-hand story problem there--on the one hand, the guard might *have* been Just That Slack, but on the other, the report here could be just paraphrasing by someone stressed and what was *actually* said was more along the lines of "I'm sorry, but unless you can bring us a better description than 'some asian guy', or witnesses who saw and can describe the guy, there's not much we can do." Or possibly, it could be both--the security guy *meaning* the latter but saying the former under the mistaken idea that she'd understand what he meant.

As for the people getting upset at people laughing...

We're not laughing at the girl. With a handful of exceptions, I'd say that everyone here feels feels sympathy for her for having to put up with this (especially the poster who was a chikan victim) crap in the first place.

We're not laughing at the situation--in fact, I'd say most of us are just as upset as Notch, but have even less ability to *do* anything other than offer sympathies as that security guy.

We *are*, however laughing *at* (not about, not with, but *at*) Mr. Teeny McWeenie there, who at the very *least* deserves to be mocked and ridiculed to the point that the psychic backlash causes what little he has to disappear entirely. (He deserves a lot worse than that, of course, but that would require finding and catching the culprit).

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