Terraria Goes to Consoles, PC Gamers Go Nuts

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Didn't Jim Sterling say it was a good thing to whine in a situation which isn't in someone's favour? I don't see why whining for the one bit of PC pride is a bad thing. I don't personally play Terraria but I know how it feels to have my favorite *used to be* PC preferred game *cough*skyrim*cough* to be chosen as an xbox preferred thing. It hurts my PC pride and hell, pride is pretty important to me.

I'd say whine away! Whine my PC brethren! Purge the money grabbing sellouts! Just don't go too far...

Dear PC gamers: Please explain (in full detail) why making a game that you like, be available to more people, is A Bad Thing.

Or, conversely, you can just STFU.

Look, I can understand being pissed when content doesn't go to all platforms that a game's on. And I can understand being even more pissed when the game's original platform doesn't get the content, but seriously guys, this is ridiculous.

I'm a PC gamer. And I'm not mad. I think all games that can properly work on other systems should be on other systems.

lacktheknack:

clippen05:
So consoles can have exclusives and PC's can't? Okay. And yeah, PC's are superior. I own three consoles, and they have a place, but they are inferior. You can prefer consoles, and that's fine, that's your preference; preferences are only opinions though. And superiority is based on facts. And objectively, PCs are better; consoles are objectively worse. As in better processor, better RAM, better GPU, more control options, and finally lower priced games. I can't tell you what your favourite is, but you asked for what was superior, I must answer. Oh and "Playing on the couch is better, I like controllers, and I don't like all the hassle of setting things up are all opinions, not facts. Sure, you can use those points in formulating your own opinion of your PREFERENCE, but they can't be used in proving which is SUPERIOR.... \ But let me reiterate incase you didn't get it through your thick little skull: PC is superior objectively, consoles still have a place, and no one is trying to tell you you have to like PC. But this is all beside the point...

You say I am trying to hog the games for PC.. I do not support this nor did I ever state it. I supported Minecraft Xbox Edition and I even own it. It accomplished what a good port should do: expand the audience to people who would otherwise not get to play the game. But should't that go both ways? I merely stated I can agree with some people not liking Terraia being ported as we PC gamers don't get as fair a share of ports. I never said "Terraria should never, ever be ported and the PC master race should hog all the games!!!" I proved this with a list of many exclusives that I'm sure many PC gamers would love to have, just as many console gamers want Terraia. So, one last time, how is it that you can "HOG ALL THE GAMES" but PC gets shit? Oh, and QQ MOAR about your terrible reading comprehension.

I love how you treat me like shit because I prefer consoles, when in reality, all I have is a PC.

Thick little skull? Seriously? U mad? It's easy to dismiss everything you say when you say things like that (even more so when under self-administered false pretense).

I'm fully aware that PCs are superior by definition. This fact has nothing to do with this discussion, meaning your little rant did nothing but make you look like a fool.

And you say you didn't support game-hogging, but that's been the underlying message of every single thing you've typed up to this point: "I'm upset because I have to give up previously exclusive titles to the consoles." You try to justify with "But they don't give us anything!" which is bull. Almost everything I want to play is ported to PC, and your long list of games that haven't is dwarfed by those that have. Then, you accuse ME of saying that PCs can't have exclusives.

clippen05:
So consoles can have exclusives and PC's can't? Okay.

After I gave you a list of PC exclusives. Insert generic sarcastic snark here.

You attack MY reading comprehension, but YOU'RE the one projecting into what I write. As I said, I don't even have a console. So... Whoops!

What you're trying to do is justify thousands of PC gamers acting like tantrumming children simply because game companies don't give you enough ports.

Deny it. You can't, because it's what you've been doing.

I, for one, take what I get, and don't support embarrassing bitch-fits because I use a product and dislike one of the (few) benefits of a competing product.

Although, I should thank you for the copious mirth I got from your assumptions that I use consoles. Assumptions aren't your friend.

One of the problems with porting total war and starcraft 2 and mmo's and the civilization series. Is that even computers that have 3 times the ram and raw power of the Xbox, tends to lag later in the game (Civ) or in multiplayer (Total War)

As such consoles are simply not powerful enough to run certain PC games (Mostly stradegy games) so I can completely understand why they dont bother with porting them, if they had to cut down units or map or anything in order to make it run on the console, it wouldnt be the same game.

Most games on PC games that would work well with consoles, have been ported.Or will be ported, there are few exceptions. Just look at Elder Scrolls, or heck. Diablo 3 (Which is surely getting a port by the way the damn game is designed) Counter Strike, L4D, TF2..

However, there are plenty of console games that would work well on PC (Every single one of them) that isnt getting ported. Which I think was his point.

TLDR: PC exclusives usually cant even run on consoles, it doesnt work the other way around. The reason that console exclusives exist is because they are paid to keep it exclusive a lot of the time, the other way around is simply because it wouldnt be able to run properly without serious developement in terms of downsizing which would most of the time ruin the game.

The developer of Terraria does seem to be a bit of a dick.

"I'm not working on it any more guys! I know I promised free updates, but, you know how things are!"

And then announces he's making new paid for versions of the game.

I don't personally have any issue, Terraria was fun, I got my fun out of it.

But, the guy is just fucking with people at this stage.

The Rage isn't directed at releasing a game on a new format, it's directed at producing a paid for version of the game after announcing you're done with development of free updates and the game completely.

Dexter111:

The game actually sold over a million copies: http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/63090/Terraria-Update-Trailer-Reveals-Over-1-Million-Copies-Sold

According to ShackNews it has so far sold a staggering amount of 1.6 Million copies on PC, which is rather amazing for an Indie game if you don't mind me saying so.

I think this is rather an exercise on how to fail at PR, first he tells everyone that there is going to be no more updates and that he has "moved on" after promising a lot and also delivering lots of Patches but falling short, and everyone goes "aww, shucks, well too bad but alright".

THEN he goes on to make a big deal out of revealing a big Announcement for the game months ago, similar to what Obsidian is doing right now: http://www.obsidianent.com/ (imagine that turning out to be a Console port of Neverwinter Nights 2 and the reactions).

And after he got everyone in his 1.6 Million large audience all giddy for months awaiting new content or something he tells them that it'll be a Console release, and it'll have more content on there too!

This should be a 3-Step guide somewhere on how to piss off your audience immensely. If I cared much about the game I'd be pissed too :P

Can someone hire this guy already? He does more research on the things he writes than all the Escapist "journalists" put together.

Huh Terraria is getting a port to consoles.
As a PC gamer I have to be mad at this then right?

But seriously yeah I think Terraria would work pretty well on consoles. Although they might have to do something with the inventory system.
As for the extra content I'm fairly sure if its anything substantial they'll patch it into the Pc version anyway.

And even if they don't I feel like I already got my moneys worth out of the game. Them adding more content isn't gonna change that.

I can KINDA understand where the rage might be coming from.

I was disappointed to hear that the "big announcement" for one of my favourite games of all time was a console port. Just as I was disappointed to hear that the 6-day countdown to a TWEWY announcement was for a port.
Am I mad? maybe a little. Am I going to complain that the port exists? fuck no, that would be stupid.
I just hope the port can get some peoples attention to making new content again, I want some MP-friendly mods that push back the end of the game further ;) (No, neither Reborn nor Obsidian are really "MP-Friendly").
An official patch would be great too but that's a fair bit less likely...

To be honest I still have yet to play Terraria. A friend bought it for me but I still haven't really played it, I joined my friends once for a few mins and it seemed kinda fun, maybe I should give it a go again.

Also there are elitists in every community, you always get people saying the Xbox or PS3 is the best platform and who get angered by former exclusive games moving onto other platforms. Try not to insult the entire PC community because a some idiots on Facebook are being idiots(It's facebooks for ****s sake, what did you expect?).

Well shit, I love double standards sometimes.

A PC to console port of Terraria is announced, and PC players get upset that they aren't getting bug fixes and updates they were told were coming before the devs said they were taking a break, whilst the PS3 and Xbox versions are getting content that the PC doesn't have yet, with no date set for release for it, and we're called elitists, and told that there's a reason people don't want to be called PC players, even though pretty much every PC player here has said something along the lines of "Good for you consoles, now back to my gaming".

Meanwhilst, a Console to PC port is announced for Dark Souls, and a lot of players are all Doom and Gloom about it, and how PC players will ruin Dark Souls, and how they'll just hack it to make it easier, and how we don't deserve it - and either a few people on this site join in to go along with them, or say "Its just a minority".

Seriously, if there's anyone with a superiority problem on these forums, my experience doesn't show it to be PC players - bar maybe one or two trolls seen from time to time.

I will admit I do not know what platform is used by every person posting in this thread, but after a look down the first page, its appalling. PC players are all saying "I apologies for these idiots, and am ashamed to share this platform with them", or "If the PC doesn't get this content - screw the developers. If it does, forget everything I've said', whilst a significant number label PC gamers in general as just being elitist and entitled. Hell, if the quote's are right, the article itself even did originally.
There are however, and I think this speaks highly of these forums, a larger number of people saying "I doubt this is just about it being a port" and actually using reason in their assessment of the situation rather than pure personal bias and knee jerk emotions. These people also thankfully keep which platform they play on unstated in this thread, so I'm going to choose to believe that they are at least mostly console exclusive players, because I refuse to believe that all console players are limited to reacting in such an entitled and derogatory manner as some have.

Fueling that rage is the fact that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 editions will feature extra content, but there's been no indication that the new material, whatever it may be, will be released for the PC.

Did the people who said "I'm fine with it!", not read the above quote?

It makes sense for pc users to be upset. Now, there's no call for swearing or raging, but new content was made for the game, despite his explicitly stated claim to not have the time to create any new content, and PC gamers aren't promised a patch?

That's just... weird.

I'm perfectly fine that it's coming to consoles. I'm rather confused as to why the new stuff isn't going to be released on PC. It'll probably be something small and not even worth pushing an update for, but if it isn't (say, new bosses or similar) then yea, I'd complain too. I wouldn't curse his name and wouldn't wish him or any of his family ill for it, but I would complain. Terraria is a good game, more of a good game is always desired.

Olrod:
Dear PC gamers: Please explain (in full detail) why making a game that you like, be available to more people, is A Bad Thing.

Or, conversely, you can just STFU.

Ask the console players who whined about the Dark Souls port the same thing. I'm sure they'd love to answer.

As for this issue, the whining isn't so much about "Waah, my games going to consoles" as it is this situation:

Devs: "Hey guys, we've got these patches and bug fixes lined up, and we'll try to get them to you sometime soon"
PC players: "Woohoo, Terraria patches"

-A short time later-

Devs: "Hey guys, we've decided to take a break from making Terraria for a while. Gonna take some time to unwind and recharge my programming and game designing batteries"
PC Players: "But... my patches? Oh well, I'm sure we'll get them when you come back"

-6 months later-

Devs: "Hey guys, we've got big Terraria news!"
PC Players: "Ooh, you're resuming development and giving us those patches at long last?"
Devs: "We're releasing a console version of Terraria that comes with this additional content that is not on the PC and we have no stated schedule for releasing on the PC"
PC Players: "What! My Patches, the console players get these patches that I was promised and I don't? What is this?"
Console Players: "All PC players are such elitist jerks, seriously just STFU, why is it so bad that we get the game!"

Its not so much that console players are getting the game that PC players are up in arms about, its the fact that they're getting the game with additional content we have not been offered, and may end up having to pay for despite the Devs saying that they were going to release more patches and bug fixes before stopping development.

What the...? What is this flame-baiting piece of crap? How does an article that outright attacks a sector of the audience get past any editorial standards?

And don't get me wrong, it pisses me off when we see the very same type of article poking fun at console players when they get angered about something (Example, the rage over the PC edition of Dark Souls).

This is unacceptable of any publication that expects to be taken seriously. There's a difference between reporting and opinion.

Note: Yahtzee gets away with this flame-baiting attitude because he is a comedy writer, and thus expects to be taken with a massive grain of salt. If the intention of this article is to be fun, lighthearted or ironic, make it clear, instead of pretending to be a serious news report.

Olrod:
Dear PC gamers: Please explain (in full detail) why making a game that you like, be available to more people, is A Bad Thing.

Or, conversely, you can just STFU.

Dear Olrod

I don't know exactly who you are adressing. I don't think it's a bad thing. Judging by the posts here most other PC gamers don't think it's a bad thing either.

Don't believe everything they write in the papers.

Zachary Amaranth:

Krantos:

Nice, because THAT statement won't piss anybody off at all.

People getting pissed off would sorta confirm that, though.

There's a difference between getting pissed because of an Exclusive going multi-platform and getting pissed because someone just insulted you en masse.

If I say "Women have anger issues" does that prove me right when women get mad at me? No. It's a deliberate attempt at baiting.

And frankly, the simple fact that he said it in a "news post" irritates me.

Daystar Clarion:
This seems very familiar...

So familiar.

I just can't put my finger on it...

I think it rhymes with Hark Rolls.

Is it a helicopter?

I'm a PC Gamer and I find both the way this article was written and the way that we're all being linked to a negative vocal minority distasteful.

As a PC gamer I am utterly outraged that our wildly superior platform has been denied updates to this indie hit, which has been fully supported for a suitable period of time for $10.

Hang on, I'm not fussed.

This article is lumping me in with idiots.

New outrage ensues.

I'm just SO outraged all the time.

Grrrr!

dangoball:
It is kinda ironic that PC gamers complain when they get extra content with a port as well as when console gamers get extra content with a port. Guess any extra content is bad now?

It's only ironic if you don't know what the hell you're talking about. The problems with Dark Souls at no point had anything to do with the extra content. For all PC gamers were concerned, they were getting a game that was one of the worst piece of shit ports they've ever played, and no amount of extra content would have changed that one bit. The straw of a connection you're grasping at is not there, and it only appears to be there because of all the narrow-minded individuals yelling "What are you talking about, you're getting extra shit" in every thread criticising the port.

And this particular issue is not about extra content either. It's about a developer who gets made by releasing a game to a particular audience, who then stop supporting said game with a huge list of unfinished promised features and the first thing they do after that is go for more money instead of bettering their game. But the story doesn't even end there, months later they announce something Terraria related to the same bloody audience they abandoned, only to reveal it to be nothing even remotely appealing to said audience, indeed insulting on some levels.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
If the developer did indeed make promises to PC gamers, then I can understand the dissatisfaction, although I don't get the rage. This is why you don't make massive promises when your indie game goes big. They are never kept and it all ends in tears. See: Minecraft, and now Terraria.

You're talking as if the developers are not responsible for their failures in developing. It is the developers' fault those promises are not kept. And it's very similar with Minecraft, although possibly not as sad (because I don't know the situation with Terraria). Minecraft, which was being developed sluggishly under Notch, is still being developed sluggishly under Jeb. So instead of investing more into the game to speed up the unbearably slow development, use the money to hire an 18 person studio (half the size of Mojang which currently has 5 games in development) to get some of that console money.

And it's not like they can't do anything about it, hire more fucking developers for Christ's sake. You're already sitting your ass on something like a hundred million dollars from PC sales alone, and somehow people are supposed to be happy with a development pace of a couple of barely alterative patches a year, which, even worse, often bring more features than content.

Note: My reply to you is going off of a vibe or perceived implication I got from your post. If it's not there, my bad.

Sober Thal:
More reason to never call myself a PC Gamer.

You don't want to call yourself a PC gamer... Why? Not that I subscribe to the idea that the people being so impotently ragged on did something wrong here, or to the idea that "elitism" is necessarily a bad thing, there are people who watch movies that are complete idiots, too. Or people who read books, or people who write articles, or anything. Disassociating yourself from a group by refusing to use a potentially factual label reeks of intellectual dishonesty.

But (some) PC gamers aren't happy with that, and they want to rage that consoles get to have some fun too.

Boo friggin Hoo

Well, no. People in general don't think in terms as simplistic and cartoonish as "I don't want others to have fun", and I think it says something about you if you truly, or even remotely, believe this.

More Fun To Compute:
Checked the forum link and most seemed neutral or positive about it rather than "going nuts" and it was hardly a huge announcement. Really it was some block headed teasing on the part of the devs. Why are people on PC going to be hyped about a console port of a game they already have?

Pointless attempt to get people to rage about the evil "PC elitists."

I guess it depends on what you mean by saying "pointless". While, ultimately, I find this pathetic to the n-th degree, just look at how many people flocked right in to keep parroting their shtick about the PC elitist. "That's why I don't call myself a PC gamer" this, "PC elitism at its worst" that, the bait was perfectly successful.

Edit: By the way, you know what the news here should have been? That Terraria is coming to consoles. Not this fucking ridiculous fake outrage over nothing.

Nikolaz72:
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Diablo 3 (Which is surely getting a port by the way the damn game is designed)
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Sorry for barging in like that and fixating on one small part of the post like that, but I had been waiting for a moment to throw out my prediction on this.

May 2013.

Huh, I assumed it was a console port to start with, since the controls always felt a lot more appropriate for a controller than a mouse and keyboard. Can't see why anyone would complain about the game being available to more people. As is often the case, I'm led to the conclusion that an awful lot of people are just knobs.

tehweave:
As a PC gamer myself, I feel I must jump in on this.

Whoo... Glad to let off some steam like that. Sorry to go all "preachy" and stuff. I probably shouldn't have swore so much, but I felt my opinion needed to be stated.

This. So many times this.

Also, woo for generalising topic that is in no way flamebait!

I can kind of understand the reaction. I was pissed when Dark Souls was announced with new content for pc while there was no word of dlc for console players. I felt kind of left out in the cold. Although I wasn't so outraged that I took to facebook and flamed the developer which is just childish.

And this is why I'm happy for StarBound to be coming out soon.

I loved Terraria. Like, I've sunk a HUGE amount of time into it. And it was really fun. But one of the big points that they sold about the game was "hey, we're gonna update the shit outta this game." And we only really got that one huge update.

Lots of people harass the guy who developed the game for cutting and running - he didn't expect Terraria to sell as much as he did, and when he made a decent amount from it, he decided to leave the game for personal reasons. No logical person can be mad at that. But what happens next is why PC gamers are in a fervor.

He refused to release the source code.

And thats where all the rage has come from. You see, every time Terraria had an update, it saw a HUGE resurgence in players and sales shot through the roof. The lead designer left the project to rot, but not before saying "bbbbbbuuuuuuuttttttttt.... just incase...". He took a game a lot of us cherished, and refused to hand it over to us because of a fear that open source and modding would result in fewer copies sold.

And now, months later, he has the balls to say "Hey, JK. Heres a console port. Now I'm just gonna let this game rot a bit more, without turning over the source code to you guys." I certainly don't think the harassment levied is justifiable in the extremes it currently is, but I feel like people SHOULD be angry. We were promised frequent updates - we didn't get them. The lead developer is refusing to allow people who gave his project life, supported it, and helped distribute it any say in its future, and after the console release, we'll likely see the game rot again.

Look up StarBound my friends. A lot of the same development team behind Terraria is behind this. And its fantastic looking.

PC Elitists and console fanboys are detrimental to the progression of the games industry as a whole; like the Dark Souls fiasco, I was pleased others get to experience such a wonderful game. But it's never enough for some people.

Beware! Completely srs bsns article below:

Terraria goes to consoles, Escapist writer decides to troll

Andy Chalk hopping mad that the indie hit Terraria is coming to consoles.

Released now in Sept 2012, the trollish flamebait-editorial "Terraria Goes to Consoles, PC Gamers Go Nuts" was a pretty big hit as far as the escapist forums go, topping the most comments and views charts with roughly 300 replies made during its first day of release and earning a cool $2 along the way. Andy Chalk, the editor behind the article, announced in Sept 2012 that after one edit, development of the article would cease; gamers said they had games to play, and that they wanted to be happy for console gamers and spend some time "gaming and bettering themselves as both gamers and people."

It was a bit of a surprise, then, for Andy Chalk but also cause for much joy when Spinks said in July that he had a "pretty big Terraria-related announcement" coming in the near future; and the announcement itself - that Terraria is "coming soon" to Xbox Live and the PlayStation Network - was an even bigger surprise, but it's safe to say that the "joy" part of the equation grew exponentially.

The Escapist thread is currently not a happy place for escapists, as Andy Chalk is once again demonstrating why he is the respected and even beloved elite of the Escapist community, escapists vent their rage over what they seem to see as a betrayal of... well, something. Most of the comments in Andy Chalk's editorial can't be printed here (it gets a little troll-ish), but the majority of the anger seems to be directed at the PC gamers decision to play on their computers instead of consoles. Fueling that rage is the fact that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are ageing and in desperate need of updating, but there's been no indication that the new consoles, whatever they may be, will be released in the coming years.

There has been some pushback from Escapists who think the troll editorial has gone too far, and even one or two who shun Andy Chalk for providing dozens or even hundreds of posts of flamewars for a measly 2 buck article, but overall, doom, gloom and idiot rage rule the roost. It's quite a contrast from yesterday's state of the site, which was marked by hundreds of messages of happiness, appreciation and love from fans.

The thread lock is slated to arrive in early 2013. More information of Andy's editorials can be found on the official Escapist forums or the site itself - but please, try not to embarrass yourself.

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As for my own opinion: Well I don't have any problem with the game being on consoles. I paid 10€ for Terraria and I've surely got more then enough for my money. It would be sad to see the devs restrict content to consoles only though, especially since PCs don't really need too much optimizations or anything along those lines. If we get some content in the future, even if it's after the console versions I'll be an extremely happy camper.

This is also now something that I can recommend to my console gamer friends who've expressed some interest in Terraria in the past. Looking forward to discussing the game with the guys.

I don't mind it comming to consoles - but if they're releasing new content, why not also release it for PC?

I mean, assuming that PC and console Terraria-gamers can play together, then giving the PC players something more to toy around wouldn't be that bad of an idea... it could bring the PC players back, to help out the new console players

Olrod:
Dear PC gamers: Please explain (in full detail) why making a game that you like, be available to more people, is A Bad Thing.

Or, conversely, you can just STFU.

Okay, sure.
It isn't a bad thing.
Done.

It's just a handful of dumbasses on facebook throwing a fit.
Don't lump all of us with the idiots.
And don't let Andy troll you.

I can't really see the controls for stuff like grappling hook working well with an analog stick. As long as there is no content exclusive to either version unless it is a restraint due to system specs I don't care. I do wish people would be a little more mature about the PC/console gamer thing. Just because there a few dick head it doesn't mean everyone is like that. If I call myself a console gamer does that mean I am automatically a buttheaded, lazy, racist, homophobic, anti semetic, jew, misogynistic, misanthropist, hermaphrodite idiot that can't work a toaster unless everything is colour coded? No it doesn't. It means I play consoles more than my PC.

Also surprise surprise there are console elitists too this is the sole domain of some arseholes who play on the PC you know? No one should apologise on behalf of PC gamers as these people aren't even gamers they are just dicks. Gamers appreciate games for being games. This is the exact same problem with the Dark Souls game but the fact that there is new content with no official or even directly hinted at release for PC is the problem here. Exactly equivalent issue but lets just hope it ends the same way too.

I am baffled by the fact that there is supposed to be added content that is thus far only mentioned to be in the console versions got omitted from the article.

Andy, I find you've written this article in a very disappointing, almost tabloid way.

Your choice of words make it seem like the conduct of a few rage-heads is representative of the majority of PC gamers, which it plain incorrect. Certainly, being more precise and writing "some PC gamers are hopping mad" or along the line doesn't have the same shock value and inflammatory potential as a broad generalization sounding subheading, but please, do the right thing.

I'm glad the console gamers who somehow do not already have a PC capable of running Terraria will get the possibility to play it. It's an excellent game and it deserves to reach the widest audience possible.

Its great news that its coming, hopefully it will be good and not quite so weak as the minecraft port.

However PC gamers should be getting this content for free. At the same time im seeing some hypocrisy here, when it was announced the Dark Souls DLC was free for PC gamers I critisized it in the same way and I had everyone here telling me just why I was wrong. Now ive changed my stance but the sentiment here is that PC gamers must get the content for free, but its fine to force console gamers to pay for the Dark Souls DLC. Can someone explain to me how this is not hypocrisy?

Nikolaz72:

lacktheknack:

clippen05:
So consoles can have exclusives and PC's can't? Okay. And yeah, PC's are superior. I own three consoles, and they have a place, but they are inferior. You can prefer consoles, and that's fine, that's your preference; preferences are only opinions though. And superiority is based on facts. And objectively, PCs are better; consoles are objectively worse. As in better processor, better RAM, better GPU, more control options, and finally lower priced games. I can't tell you what your favourite is, but you asked for what was superior, I must answer. Oh and "Playing on the couch is better, I like controllers, and I don't like all the hassle of setting things up are all opinions, not facts. Sure, you can use those points in formulating your own opinion of your PREFERENCE, but they can't be used in proving which is SUPERIOR.... \ But let me reiterate incase you didn't get it through your thick little skull: PC is superior objectively, consoles still have a place, and no one is trying to tell you you have to like PC. But this is all beside the point...

You say I am trying to hog the games for PC.. I do not support this nor did I ever state it. I supported Minecraft Xbox Edition and I even own it. It accomplished what a good port should do: expand the audience to people who would otherwise not get to play the game. But should't that go both ways? I merely stated I can agree with some people not liking Terraia being ported as we PC gamers don't get as fair a share of ports. I never said "Terraria should never, ever be ported and the PC master race should hog all the games!!!" I proved this with a list of many exclusives that I'm sure many PC gamers would love to have, just as many console gamers want Terraia. So, one last time, how is it that you can "HOG ALL THE GAMES" but PC gets shit? Oh, and QQ MOAR about your terrible reading comprehension.

I love how you treat me like shit because I prefer consoles, when in reality, all I have is a PC.

Thick little skull? Seriously? U mad? It's easy to dismiss everything you say when you say things like that (even more so when under self-administered false pretense).

I'm fully aware that PCs are superior by definition. This fact has nothing to do with this discussion, meaning your little rant did nothing but make you look like a fool.

And you say you didn't support game-hogging, but that's been the underlying message of every single thing you've typed up to this point: "I'm upset because I have to give up previously exclusive titles to the consoles." You try to justify with "But they don't give us anything!" which is bull. Almost everything I want to play is ported to PC, and your long list of games that haven't is dwarfed by those that have. Then, you accuse ME of saying that PCs can't have exclusives.

clippen05:
So consoles can have exclusives and PC's can't? Okay.

After I gave you a list of PC exclusives. Insert generic sarcastic snark here.

You attack MY reading comprehension, but YOU'RE the one projecting into what I write. As I said, I don't even have a console. So... Whoops!

What you're trying to do is justify thousands of PC gamers acting like tantrumming children simply because game companies don't give you enough ports.

Deny it. You can't, because it's what you've been doing.

I, for one, take what I get, and don't support embarrassing bitch-fits because I use a product and dislike one of the (few) benefits of a competing product.

Although, I should thank you for the copious mirth I got from your assumptions that I use consoles. Assumptions aren't your friend.

One of the problems with porting total war and starcraft 2 and mmo's and the civilization series. Is that even computers that have 3 times the ram and raw power of the Xbox, tends to lag later in the game (Civ) or in multiplayer (Total War)

As such consoles are simply not powerful enough to run certain PC games (Mostly stradegy games) so I can completely understand why they dont bother with porting them, if they had to cut down units or map or anything in order to make it run on the console, it wouldnt be the same game.

Most games on PC games that would work well with consoles, have been ported.Or will be ported, there are few exceptions. Just look at Elder Scrolls, or heck. Diablo 3 (Which is surely getting a port by the way the damn game is designed) Counter Strike, L4D, TF2..

However, there are plenty of console games that would work well on PC (Every single one of them) that isnt getting ported. Which I think was his point.

TLDR: PC exclusives usually cant even run on consoles, it doesnt work the other way around. The reason that console exclusives exist is because they are paid to keep it exclusive a lot of the time, the other way around is simply because it wouldnt be able to run properly without serious developement in terms of downsizing which would most of the time ruin the game.

Which is undermined by the simple truth that there are dozens of excellent PC exclusives, technical reasons or not.

Think of console exclusives as the balancing reaction to PCs having so many of their own.

I think the more productive thing in this case is to not complain that the game is going to consoles or that it is a "cash grab". (ERMAHGERD, SOMEONE THAT MAKES THEIR INCOME BY MAKING GAMES IS TRYING TO EARN MORE INCOME BY EXPANDING THEIR GAME'S AVAILABILITY?!?! THE HORROR!)

Instead, complain to the Developers that while you support having the game made more available to non-PC Gamers, that you feel we should receive an update of the same content to the original title. This could easily be marketed alongside the port to get more PC sales.

Do you think people will ever be smart enough to realize that flaming an indie developer who doesn't give two shits about the profits he makes and who just wants to leave his mark in the industry, providing a nice, cheap game for people to play is very likely to just make them avoid doing things for the people who flamed him..

I personally would just switch to working exclusively on the console if a bunch of whiny people who bought the game were causing such a pathetic uproar. I don't really see a reason why he shouldn't to. Hell the PC players should just be thankful he's even back to patching Terraria...

So they don't have the time to add stuff/bugfixes for the pc version not even a basic mod api, But they do have time to create a console version?
Seriously if that content is console exclusive screw them, if it isn't and also comes out on pc Forget everything i said.

Stop bitching, I've bought about 10 or so copies of Terraria altogether and gave them to my friends on Steam, and a lot more have just bought the game themselves, and so far the only bug I've heard anyone complain about is NPCs not switching houses properly. The bugs in Terraria aren't severe, and if you think that they are then who cares? Jesus the game costs about $5, just buy it on console if you don't want to suffer the minor bugs.

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