Terraria Goes to Consoles, PC Gamers Go Nuts

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Dedicated Elitist PC Gamer here, and I don't mind. At least the development focus was on PC; it means they were able to fix many of the problems that it likely had when it first came out. Now it's a good game that'll be available on all systems. Great.

Personally I got my moneys worth out the game, happy enough with my purchase at launch (no sale / discount or suchlike ).

I can sort of understand why Red is getting this flak though, as it has been pointed out a few times Red announced he was moving on and not working on Terraria, concentrating on his family... and now he announces the game for consoles ?
Add to that he put his PC centered fanbase into hype overdrive with his mysterious announcement... which was to port the game to consoles.

Well I hope the console players get a decent port, it is a fun game if somewhat slow to get going.

JOURNALISM! Seriously, you start off with that? Great job increasing page hits there, buddy. And about the topic itself, wow. So some idiots on facebook start bitching about a game port. Wow, the world stops turning in awe. But hey, at least we can use that to throw a bit of fuel into the fire with a bit of pointless name calling for the sake of ad revenue. Newsflash, this isn't PC exclusive stupidity. It's the whole, entire gamer scene including its self-appointed journalists that needs to grow the fuck up.

Andy Chalk:
as PC gamers, once again demonstrating why they are the respected and even beloved elite of the videogaming community, vent their rage over what they seem to see as a betrayal of... well, something

And Andy continues to be the shittiest reporter on the Escapist. Gold star, bud. How many of those nutty PC gamers are there anyways? A thousand? two thousand? Big fucking whoop.

Lumber Barber:

Andy Chalk:
as PC gamers, once again demonstrating why they are the respected and even beloved elite of the videogaming community, vent their rage over what they seem to see as a betrayal of... well, something

And Andy continues to be the shittiest reporter on the Escapist. Gold star, bud. How many of those nutty PC gamers are there anyways? A thousand? two thousand? Big fucking whoop.

He changed it from this

"The Terraria Facebook page is currently not a happy place as PC gamers, an inherently insecure bunch to begin with, vent their rage over what they seem to see as a betrayal of... well, something"

MrTub:

Lumber Barber:

Andy Chalk:
as PC gamers, once again demonstrating why they are the respected and even beloved elite of the videogaming community, vent their rage over what they seem to see as a betrayal of... well, something

And Andy continues to be the shittiest reporter on the Escapist. Gold star, bud. How many of those nutty PC gamers are there anyways? A thousand? two thousand? Big fucking whoop.

He changed it from this

"The Terraria Facebook page is currently not a happy place as PC gamers, an inherently insecure bunch to begin with, vent their rage over what they seem to see as a betrayal of... well, something"

Andy always has this. It's like PC gamers murdered his family and raped him or something.

TheKasp:

Treblaine:
That's not what I heard, but it's good to know that this isn't the case.

If the current abandonment of PC version is to be reversed and the new content will be egalitarianly available for all versions, then there is nothing to complain about...

... if what you say is actually true.

"Stop what you're doing immediately - we have very important news - TERRARIA IS COMING TO XBLA & PSN WITH BRAND NEW CONTENT"

Is literally all the info we have. Nothing else. It may imply exclusivity as well as just new content to the game that is going to see the release on PC.

The inferences are clear.

PC version has been all but abandoned in updates.

Console release has "new content".

Developers have a responsibility to be clear. Remember what Jim Sterling said about the value of whining.

Lumber Barber:

MrTub:

Lumber Barber:

And Andy continues to be the shittiest reporter on the Escapist. Gold star, bud. How many of those nutty PC gamers are there anyways? A thousand? two thousand? Big fucking whoop.

He changed it from this

"The Terraria Facebook page is currently not a happy place as PC gamers, an inherently insecure bunch to begin with, vent their rage over what they seem to see as a betrayal of... well, something"

Andy always has this. It's like PC gamers murdered his family and raped him or something.

He edited it at least. Give credit where credit is due.

It's a bit much expecting an apology for his words and there is always the far more vocal Jim Sterling on this side who is both a big proponent of PC gamers and of whining by consumers in this.

Jim Sterling has a regular video slot and Andy has the occasional column, I can't fault escapist in their management of things... though I do see certain room for improvement.

There is nothing wrong with someone being a particular proponent of one platform (whether PC, Xbox or Wii), but threads are inevitably going to be derailed with inflammatory characterisation of other proponents.

captcha: be nice

Oh you

Stripes:
Its great news that its coming, hopefully it will be good and not quite so weak as the minecraft port.

However PC gamers should be getting this content for free. At the same time im seeing some hypocrisy here, when it was announced the Dark Souls DLC was free for PC gamers I critisized it in the same way and I had everyone here telling me just why I was wrong. Now ive changed my stance but the sentiment here is that PC gamers must get the content for free, but its fine to force console gamers to pay for the Dark Souls DLC. Can someone explain to me how this is not hypocrisy?

PC gamer bought an unfinished, buggy product with little content with a promis that they will get every future update for free. There will be lots of new content, changed. Frequent updates.

Console gamer will get a finished product with extra content.

That's why it's not hypocritical that PC gamer get the content for free. They where promised that they will get it for free.

In DS case, console gamer got a finished product with NO promises at all. They got what they bought.

Also, PC gamer did NOT get the content for free. They payed 40 euro for a game that was less than 30 euro on consoles. The DLC costs 10 euro for consoles. In the end, it's 40 euro for consoles with the DLC.

CriticKitten:

Andy Chalk:
The Terraria Facebook page is currently not a happy place as PC gamers, an inherently insecure bunch to begin with, vent their rage over what they seem to see as a betrayal of... well, something.

So how's your attempt to get a job at Fox News going?

What an absolutely blatant and shameless nerd-bait attempt. Get off your damn high horse, Andy, because there are elitists in every single gaming format. PC gamers merely get the raw end of that deal because they are used to significantly higher standards and expectations.

I'm calling this article out for what it is: baiting with misleading and downright false information.

I couldn't care less about Terraria and how much of a [douche/non-douche] its developer is. Andy Chalk, on the other hand, can go shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

I'm happy that Terraria is branching out to the console crowd. It's a game that I've play a lot and a game I've really liked. I liked it so much I even bought the retail "collectors edition", and I have that silly little plastic pick-axe on my key-chain. The game deserves all the players it can get.

I'm a little upset at the fact that I don't know if I'll be able to get a hold of any of that new delicious content. I only have the PC, you see.

I'm VERY upset(and pretty ashamed) at the fact that gamers as a group apparently can't be civil. Hate gets thrown around so easily and the "console/PC-war" is getting ridiculous and ugly. I was fed up with it years ago, and now look at us. If it isn't Dark Souls, it's this. What will happen tomorrow? Will I be assaulted on the streets because I have WASD tattooed on my fingers?

Guys... this is why we can't have nice things. This is why people don't respect our culture.

I don't see a problem, not just here, but with ANY kind of port. I don't get why people want others to NOT have the same enjoyment that they derive from a game.

Treblaine:
The inferences are clear.

PC version has been all but abandoned in updates.

Console release has "new content".

Developers have a responsibility to be clear. Remember what Jim Sterling said about the value of whining.

I don't give a fuck about what Jim said about whining and I think even less of whining than you can imagine. A normal put request with enough support from the community can achieve more than whining like idiotic babies.

And the PC version is not entirely abandoned. In the last post Redigit himself said that we can at least expect bugfix patches (which did not appear since then). As far as we know he just expanded the hotfix to a 'real' content patch (what does that even mean? We still know jack shit about what content it is going to be) and is just using advertising slurs.

Let me see if I can summarise.

Developer: I'm ceasing development of Terraria guys, I need to take a break and recharge. Sorry no more patches.
Gamers: Oh damn, well Terraria was great, sucks you couldn't finish it but we understand you got other things that need doing.

~Some time passes~

Developer: Hey guys, there's a big Terraria announcement coming! Super exciting!
Gamers: Yay, really? Oh awesome, can't wait to see what it is, but haven't you finished Terraria?

Developer: Hey guys, look, I've made a console version of Terraria with stuff you guys didn't get! Isn't that awesome!
Gamers: WTF dude, how is that awesome for us?

I'm kind of bored.

TheKasp:

Treblaine:
The inferences are clear.

PC version has been all but abandoned in updates.

Console release has "new content".

Developers have a responsibility to be clear. Remember what Jim Sterling said about the value of whining.

I don't give a fuck about what Jim said about whining and I think even less of whining than you can imagine. A normal put request with enough support from the community can achieve more than whining like idiotic babies.

And the PC version is not entirely abandoned. In the last post Redigit himself said that we can at least expect bugfix patches (which did not appear since then). As far as we know he just expanded the hotfix to a 'real' content patch (what does that even mean? We still know jack shit about what content it is going to be) and is just using advertising slurs.

Well I can't be bothered repeat what Jim has already argued, but really, petulant whining DOES work where polite requests and boycotts don't have any affect at all.

To summarise his comprehensive 7-minute long analysis, bad public relations affect games developers/publishers more than sales. Modern entertainment is ALL ABOUT publicity and bad publicity is a drain on them.

PC version has been abandoned in the sense of promised Features and content.

I've seen several people say the Devs failed to provide the substantial updates that they promised but I don't see it that way we got near a dozen separate free updates and the 1.1 update alone doubled the amount of content in Terraria.

Once again the vocal minority makes everyone else look bad. Not even sure why they are so mad, perhaps they were led to believe that developers were making some new content and then it turns out that its a port? Or they just assumed it themselves. Well, whatever, i guess i'll check out this game since a lot of people seem to be so attached to it.

If it means that Re-Logic have more capital to put into the new space-game thingy, that is good news. PC gamers enjoyed it, and console owners shouldn't have to fork out a small fortune to play it too. Also, if it has extra content, I'll get it for 360 too. :>

kasperbbs:
Once again the vocal minority makes everyone else look bad. Not even sure why they are so mad, perhaps they were led to believe that developers were making some new content and then it turns out that its a port? Or they just assumed it themselves. Well, whatever, i guess i'll check out this game since a lot of people seem to be so attached to it.

Ther is new content that will be on the port it is the same situation as Dark Souls except they haven't had the foresight to outright say it will be on one version or the other so they learned nothing there. Yet DS did get the content eventually like this probably will.

Wait...I freaked out, over this game? WTH?

This game isn't even on my radar at all.

There are 4 games I'd recommend to anyone alive, and those are Minecraft, Portal, Portal 2, and Terraria. Now they can all be played by anyone, console or no console (hell, you can play Minecraft if you have a dang smartphone). I don't see how anyone could be pissed about this.

I DO see how people can be upset that the devs quit work on Terraria for the PC, then went and made it better for the consoles, but I'm not up-in-arms about it.

What I will get up-in-arms about is this article's insinuation that I am an elitist asshole, because I grew up on a specific device and am now unable to use other devices due to lack of practice. Honestly, in my daily life, being a primarily PC gamer is more of a hindrance than some sort of amazing social status. Then I come online and am berated for being elitist? At the risk of sounding like a whining elitist PC gamer: this actually kinda hurts. I get it when Sr. Random Internetgoer makes sweeping generalizations about PC gamers (after all, the internet has every type of human on it), but I thought the Escapist Magazine was for all gamers, not just console gamers.

And, for the record, it'd be nice people quit with the whole "console tard" thing as well, but I'm sure that's asking too much.

BiH-Kira:

Stripes:
Its great news that its coming, hopefully it will be good and not quite so weak as the minecraft port.

However PC gamers should be getting this content for free. At the same time im seeing some hypocrisy here, when it was announced the Dark Souls DLC was free for PC gamers I critisized it in the same way and I had everyone here telling me just why I was wrong. Now ive changed my stance but the sentiment here is that PC gamers must get the content for free, but its fine to force console gamers to pay for the Dark Souls DLC. Can someone explain to me how this is not hypocrisy?

PC gamer bought an unfinished, buggy product with little content with a promis that they will get every future update for free. There will be lots of new content, changed. Frequent updates.

Console gamer will get a finished product with extra content.

That's why it's not hypocritical that PC gamer get the content for free. They where promised that they will get it for free.

In DS case, console gamer got a finished product with NO promises at all. They got what they bought.

Also, PC gamer did NOT get the content for free. They payed 40 euro for a game that was less than 30 euro on consoles. The DLC costs 10 euro for consoles. In the end, it's 40 euro for consoles with the DLC.

How is it unfinished? Is it unfinished because they promised more or because people think theres not enough there?

I see little difference here, like I said PC gamers deserve the content for free but the fact of the matter is that most console gamers bought dark souls at the same price that the PC gamers bought it at yet got less. They effectively subsidized the PC gamers DLC. PC gamers have no right to complain when its the other way around.

Awesome I like terraria and the more people have access to it the better!

This is weird because I went to what is ostentatiously the main Terraria page and couldn't find such comments. What's going on there then?

lacktheknack:

Trilligan:

lacktheknack:

<commits seppuku>

HNNNNNNNNNNG!!! STOP THE CUTE ATTACK, GODDAMMIT!!

OT: Retards acting retarded? Hardly news, really. Let them throw their poo in peace and move on, I say!

I myself love any attempt to bring great games to more players, (hell, I've been wanting an AMNESIA for 360 for.....a long time), so, I'm happy to hear this. 8D

dangoball:
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Looking back on your post I now realize I quoted the wrong person. My apologies.

However, you must admit that you did use generalized statements about PC gamers. Even if in jest. ;)

The PC as a gaming platform as grown increasingly more popular lately, with a lot of people switching from consoles to PC now during the end of the console cycle. However, as someone who has played exclusively on a PC for many many years, I can say that the PC community is progressively getting worse with more and more immaturity, ranting, elitism and entitlement permeating the growing community, and as paradoxical as it may seem, it's probably because it's more popular than it once was.

I don't understand people who get all "B-But the developer promised!" about things the developer promised to do after the game was released. The amount of content in Terraria has been pretty much doubled, if not more. How much stuff do they have to add before you agree that the game is 'done'?

It just boggles my mind that people can be so... Well, greedy about their game content. A developer breaking a 'promise' is bad (although I'd love to see in what form this promise was originally made), but when people happily twist that promise into "You have to make infinite content for us forever", I think they don't have to care any more.

They are literally getting mad over the fact that a game they probably bought months ago... Isn't getting free extra content for them.

Stripes:

BiH-Kira:

Stripes:
Its great news that its coming, hopefully it will be good and not quite so weak as the minecraft port.

However PC gamers should be getting this content for free. At the same time im seeing some hypocrisy here, when it was announced the Dark Souls DLC was free for PC gamers I critisized it in the same way and I had everyone here telling me just why I was wrong. Now ive changed my stance but the sentiment here is that PC gamers must get the content for free, but its fine to force console gamers to pay for the Dark Souls DLC. Can someone explain to me how this is not hypocrisy?

PC gamer bought an unfinished, buggy product with little content with a promis that they will get every future update for free. There will be lots of new content, changed. Frequent updates.

Console gamer will get a finished product with extra content.

That's why it's not hypocritical that PC gamer get the content for free. They where promised that they will get it for free.

In DS case, console gamer got a finished product with NO promises at all. They got what they bought.

Also, PC gamer did NOT get the content for free. They payed 40 euro for a game that was less than 30 euro on consoles. The DLC costs 10 euro for consoles. In the end, it's 40 euro for consoles with the DLC.

How is it unfinished? Is it unfinished because they promised more or because people think theres not enough there?

I see little difference here, like I said PC gamers deserve the content for free but the fact of the matter is that most console gamers bought dark souls at the same price that the PC gamers bought it at yet got less. They effectively subsidized the PC gamers DLC. PC gamers have no right to complain when its the other way around.

Did you just decide to ignore things or does that come naturally to you?

The developer him self said that every update will be free.
The developer him self said that the game is released unfinished and that the profit from sales will be used to finish the game.
The developer him self gave a huge list of promises and he guarantied that they will be in the finished game.

People where buying the game in beta because of the promises he game. The game was barley worth 5$, not to speak 10 euro for which it was sold. But people bought it because the game had potential and they where promised that they will get more later.

When people bought DS, they didn't get ANY promises. They got a full game worth 40 euro. They didn't got a half finished product and a promise for more once the developer get more money.
Console gamer got what they where promised. A finished product. Dark Souls as it is. Not as it might be, not as it will be, but as it is.
Terraria wasn't sold as it is, but as it will be.

Angry Juju:
Do you think people will ever be smart enough to realize that flaming an indie developer who doesn't give two shits about the profits he makes and who just wants to leave his mark in the industry, providing a nice, cheap game for people to play is very likely to just make them avoid doing things for the people who flamed him..

I personally would just switch to working exclusively on the console if a bunch of whiny people who bought the game were causing such a pathetic uproar. I don't really see a reason why he shouldn't to. Hell the PC players should just be thankful he's even back to patching Terraria...

So they don't have the time to add stuff/bugfixes for the pc version not even a basic mod api, But they do have time to create a console version?
Seriously if that content is console exclusive screw them, if it isn't and also comes out on pc Forget everything i said.

Stop bitching, I've bought about 10 or so copies of Terraria altogether and gave them to my friends on Steam, and a lot more have just bought the game themselves, and so far the only bug I've heard anyone complain about is NPCs not switching houses properly. The bugs in Terraria aren't severe, and if you think that they are then who cares? Jesus the game costs about $5, just buy it on console if you don't want to suffer the minor bugs.

Wow that is ridiculously short sighted and kinda crappy thing to say. Seriously, think about what you just said. You just said because of a couple or arseholes can't ask nice for a properly worded official statement with all the details on the content the dev should cut off all support to the PC.

On the note of patching no people should not be thankful for a patch a patch is there to solve a problem new content brought in patches yes maybe but not a patch in general. It is a necessity for a game to have patches. I should not be thankful that Bethesda patches the bugs out of Skyrim. However, I would be if a patch included something of a DLC for free. Totally different story and obviously we are more talking about the later here since people are mad about content that has not even been state will not be for PC yet.

Buying 10 copies doesn't make your opinion any better than anyone else's here. I don't even see why you mentioned it. That comment also hardly counts as a bitch.

Bugs minor or not if they are going to patches they should be fixed with priority given to game breaking bugs and no one should have to buy a whole new game on a system they may or may not have to get a bug fix. If there are bug fixes in the console version it would be a trivial matter to add them to PC version. Once again nothing has been officially and properly stated on the matter.

Just because a few "people" had a shit hemorrhage due to poor communication on the Devs part doesn't mean they should stop supporting one platform.

CarlMinez:
with a lot of people switching from consoles to PC.

I can say that the PC community is progressively getting worse with more and more immaturity, ranting, elitism and entitlement

With having a little fun with the quote (hope you dont get mad) I can see a correlation between a few things you said. I pruned them for you. ;)

So... is there anything the PC is losing or not getting? I see people complain that they promised future updates of content and bug fixing... so what's stopping them from doing that AND releasing this console version?

They're not Valve making infinite money off Steam. They gotta keep money coming in somehow to keep satisfying free update after free update only to get backlash when they doing anything else other than another free update.

Awexsome:
So... is there anything the PC is losing or not getting? I see people complain that they promised future updates of content and bug fixing... so what's stopping them from doing that AND releasing this console version?

They're not Valve making infinite money off Steam. They gotta keep money coming in somehow to keep satisfying free update after free update only to get backlash when they doing anything else other than another free update.

Well no one here is really complaining and no one on the steam forums is either. Its all pretty balanced responses. The only ones who are making a big fuss are the tards on facebook.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2931813

This is the terraria thread in steam forums. Comments there are pretty similar to the ones here.

Edit: also here is an article on the real issue why PC gamers are upset with red that puts Andy's to shame.

http://www.theclosetnerd.com/post/31396904508/reason-for-pc-gamer-rage-over-console-port

Glademaster:
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First, I'm saying he should cut off all development for the PC version because the PC users have literally done nothing but flame him for literally no reason aside from entitlement (just a little hint, you're not entitled to shit, you paid $5 for a game, which he took to a point where anyone can say 'it's finished and then stopped development). He doesn't gain anything from continuing development on the PC and he doesn't lose anything from not continuing support, and considering how the PC users are simply acting like little kids who didn't get their own way, I think that he should just say "Suck it up and learn from your actions"

Second, no, Terraria is not the same as Skyrim. That was such a crappy comparison it's unreal. Terraria had the development on it stopped. Did you know that generally when games do this it means that THEY NO LONGER PATCH IT?

Third, I said that I bought 10 copies because I gave all 10 to different people who I know have all played the game a lot and quite a few of them have reached end game and done some really nice things. Yet none of them complain about major game breaking bugs that are apparently such a major issue...

Fourth, all games have bugs, this game is no different. Many games get ports, this game is no different. Are you going to go bitch at Nintendo for not fixing bugs in the N64 version of Ocarina of Time now after that revelation?

Lumber Barber:

MrTub:

Lumber Barber:

And Andy continues to be the shittiest reporter on the Escapist. Gold star, bud. How many of those nutty PC gamers are there anyways? A thousand? two thousand? Big fucking whoop.

He changed it from this

"The Terraria Facebook page is currently not a happy place as PC gamers, an inherently insecure bunch to begin with, vent their rage over what they seem to see as a betrayal of... well, something"

Andy always has this. It's like PC gamers murdered his family and raped him or something.

Always like this? He's a pc gamer himself(check out his avatar), he just decided to poke fun at pc gamers this time.

It'd be a bigger deal if he were misleading people about a law being passed or about someone dying but this is just about a port, chill out. There's got to be better things in this world to get angry at.

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