Gearbox Promises More "Non-Season Pass" DLC for Borderlands 2

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Gearbox Promises More "Non-Season Pass" DLC for Borderlands 2

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The CEO of Gearbox hints that new characters and vehicles are in the pipeline.

Now that Borderlands 2 is out the gate and everyone is busy raining hot brass all over Pandora, Gearbox Software is focusing its attention on the upcoming DLC packs. This includes the new Mechromancer character class and four additional DLC expansions that will be covered in the Season Pass. It appears, however, that the company is already thinking about supporting the game with even more paid content that lies outside the scope of the pre-paid DLC bundle.

Randy Pitchford, CEO of Gearbox Software, revealed the news in an open Q&A session, where he spoke of expansions beyond that of the Mechromancer add-on. "Things like new weapons and enemies will come in campaign DLCs and other DLCs," he explained. "We will have other, non-season pass related DLC. The additional (Mechromancer) character is one kind of example."

"Since we finished the game, we've started with some new ideas that we expect will show up in DLC. Some new vehicle types are on-deck - awesome stuff."

The Mechromancer DLC is set for release on October 16th, although Pitchford had no announcements regarding the upcoming Season Pass DLC, other than mentioning that the first installment is "extremely far along" and the second is "also in amazing shape". He says that the Campaign-style DLC contained in the Season Pass will be considerably rich in content, similar to previous Borderlands DLC packs such as The Secret Armory of General Knoxx.

Source: Kotaku

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When they first introduced the concept of the "Season Pass", I was under the impression such a Pass would include all the DLC that gets released for a game for a slightly discounted price. Good to see that they can cannibalise everything.

i was initially under the impression that the season pass was going to grant you more than the 4 accounced, but they had only announced 4 definite ones so far. seeing as thats not the case, thats kinda lame. i know you save money overall, but still. i would have liked to make a one off purchase that means i get all dlc ever released for that game...

Are you ****ing kidding me? The whole point of a season pass is that you pay for all of the DLC right?

Congratulations everyone, we are willing to take even more of your money because doubling the games price wasn't enough for us.

I don't know why people are so surprised.

Gears of War 3 had a season pass DLC with 4 expansions and yet you still had to pay for all of the weapon skins separately.

It sucks, and defeats the point of calling it a "Season Pass" as opposed to a "pre-order discount" but it shouldn't come as a shock.

Dandark:

Congratulations everyone, we are willing to take even more of your money because doubling the games price wasn't enough for us.

What on earth are you talking about?

For starters the DLC is optional, so you can't claim they are "taking more of our money" when if you don't want it, you can choose not to buy it.

Additionally this isn't Day One "Already on the disc, you just pay to unlock it" content, it is full length additional missions, that are not a part of the main story, but people can buy them if they want to, just like the last games and the Fallout DLC's. It's for those who want a bit extra.

They are not doubling the price of the game, they are releasing additional, optional content. It's not like the game is a four hour adventure where they cut out crap to sell it to us later.

The game is easily complete within itself.

Talking about milking an franchise, this is something I expect MS or EA to do this.

People this is a kotaku article, The guys who said that the mechromancer would be a disc locked pre order bonus,
Let's wait for a source that is not kotaku before we make assumptions.

The season pass is advertised as covering 'all upcoming DLC'.
I'm not sure they're allowed to make DLC that isn't covered by it, given their sales pitch.
False advertisement and such.

Well this makes Borderlands 2 go from buy immediately @ start of October to wait until Game of the Year edition is out and on a Steam sale of some kind in order to buy.

Seems to me that the non Season pass DLC is just little things like small stuff that doesnt matter at all. Everyone is getting in a hissy fit over this for nothing

TF2 Hats - All i have to say i will leave that there no one has any problem with those... Basicly the same thing gearbox is doing

Come at me Bro

That defeats the entire purpose of having a Season Pass?

Arizona Kyle:
Seems to me that the non Season pass DLC is just little things like small stuff that doesnt matter at all. Everyone is getting in a hissy fit over this for nothing

TF2 Hats - All i have to say i will leave that there no one has any problem with those... Basicly the same thing gearbox is doing

Come at me Bro

People just seem to want to get angry over every little thing developers do these days.

"What was that? Gearbox announced that they will also sell optional vehicles and characters months after launch that are in no way required to enjoy the game? Everyone get your pitchforks!"

As for the people complaining that this should be part of the season pass: No, it doesn't have to be. The season pass is so that people can get the self contained story driven DLC for a cheaper price than buying them all individually. That's what was advertised and that's what should come with it.

Legion:
I don't know why people are so surprised.

Gears of War 3 had a season pass DLC with 4 expansions and yet you still had to pay for all of the weapon skins separately.

It sucks, and defeats the point of calling it a "Season Pass" as opposed to a "pre-order discount" but it shouldn't come as a shock.

Danggit! I was all ready to come in and be mad, but now you've gone and reminded me about Gears 3. I got everything I was interested in with their season pass, the non-pass stuff was all cosmetic (and I've got more gun skins than I know what to do with anyway).

I guess we're just going to have to get comfortable with that fact that in order to get a solid return on the publisher/developer's investment in creating a game, those publisher/developers (pubveloprs? devlishers?) are going to look to get as much revenue out of their games as possible.

Yay, another game that rewards people for NOT buying the game and waiting for the GOTY edition.

You know what, I'd be interested in seeing if a developer can do something like: making ALL DLC free for one week to everybody that owns the game (maybe not the "Armory of Knoxx" level content, but at least make that cut-price) then putting on a price tag later (or full price) and NOT offering a GOTY game. Then there's the small shit, the kind of stuff half-decent modders do over a weekend, should always be for free. That way, the people that actually support the developers from day one are the ones that get the best deal.

Legion:
I don't know why people are so surprised.

Gears of War 3 had a season pass DLC with 4 expansions and yet you still had to pay for all of the weapon skins separately.

It sucks, and defeats the point of calling it a "Season Pass" as opposed to a "pre-order discount" but it shouldn't come as a shock.

Dandark:

Congratulations everyone, we are willing to take even more of your money because doubling the games price wasn't enough for us.

What on earth are you talking about?

For starters the DLC is optional, so you can't claim they are "taking more of our money" when if you don't want it, you can choose not to buy it.

Additionally this isn't Day One "Already on the disc, you just pay to unlock it" content, it is full length additional missions, that are not a part of the main story, but people can buy them if they want to, just like the last games and the Fallout DLC's. It's for those who want a bit extra.

They are not doubling the price of the game, they are releasing additional, optional content. It's not like the game is a four hour adventure where they cut out crap to sell it to us later.

The game is easily complete within itself.

People so often forget these simple facts. Thank you

As much as everyone bitches about DLC, it doesn't seem to have stopped them from developing a speedball-injected-directly-into-the-eye level addiction to it.

That news makes me feel a slightly better about jumping the gun and preordering Borderlands 2 before they announced the season pass deal. Thanks for the offer Randy, but I think I'll stick with the vanilla game, and should I feel like playing the game again at some point in the distant future I'll pick up the complete DLC collection at a steep discount.

No point buying a whole pie at once when in all honesty a slice will do nicely for now.

Wow, pointlessly angry gamers are angry, what a shock.

Screw your heads back on. The season pass DLC's are like Shivering Isles in Oblivion, while this non-season pass DLC is the equivalent of that fucking Horse Armour.

Will you all calm down (which won't ever happen).

Ah I see, the season pass was for 4 DLC packs of devs choosing and everything outside that is free game, sorry people who threw money at it blind but they defined the terms clearly at the start.

Hmm I'm under the impression a season pass cover should cover a season or in video games terms cover all future content released. If that is not the case they perhaps should have not called it a season pass and rather called it a limited time discount on the fist set of dlc to avoid some confusion on the matter. However Gearbox did say that the season pass would cover the 4 dlc announced so far, so I wouldn't say they have intentionally mislead anyone. Although there will be rage because as I said the term season pass at a glance implies all future content for an upfront investment.

You know what sounds silly? That with each purchase of a companies DLC, the next one gets a cheaper sale. You know, the more you buy the more you save? Such a silly idea.

GOD DAMN IT! WOULD YOU PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN SHUT THE FUCK UP!?

They are in no way forcing you to buy the DLC. In fact, contrary to popular belief, it;s entirely *fucking* optional. It does not affect how the base game runs in any other way than adding something else that really, probably doesn't add much to start with.

The game is tits; fantastic, bouncy, happy tits. Unless Gearbox killed your puppy and ate the thing for dinner, stop making your choices on OPTIONS.

ffs, gamers piss me off.

I bought the game to support them, but was disappointed that I would have had to pre-order at a specific store to get the Mechromancer for free. That seemed unfair.

I'm perfectly fine with this. I will just wait for the Game of the Year edition to pick up all the extra content at the end of the game's lifecycle.

I for one am thrilled to hear about them supporting the game even further with new classes and vehicles.

Dear Gearbox, please let us import our characters from part 1 :)

And I promise to wait as long as necessary until they drop their shit and release the game in a finished state, likely at half price with purchasing their product, if at all.

Incidentally I recently bought the Borderlands GOATEE Edition for like what 5-10€?
That's about what the game is worth for me if they go ahead the way they do trying to wring money out of people's pockets.

I get other games like Torchlight II, Dark Souls, Orcs Must Die 2, To The Moon etc. while they're new since they don't seem to employ similar business practices and even come out at more reasonable prices.

wackelpudding:
When they first introduced the concept of the "Season Pass", I was under the impression such a Pass would include all the DLC that gets released for a game for a slightly discounted price. Good to see that they can cannibalise everything.

Why are you acting like Gearbox owes you something? They don't. If you bought the season pass, you are getting 4 DLC for the price of 3. It says that in the description. Just because Gearbox wants to support the game more after that doesn't mean you somehow deserve the extra content.

It's open season, but not for big game.

Maybe the Season Pass covers all DLC released within the next year? Just saying.

Let's wait for more information before we start saying things we can't take back.

Dexter111:
And I promise to wait as long as necessary until they drop their shit and release the game in a finished state, likely at half price with purchasing their product, if at all.

Unfortunately, that's how many people think. I'm not blaming you, I actually agree. Announcing a large amount of upcoming DLC packs at the same time is a big, big mistake. You tire people out by merely mentioning them. The DLC will most likely enhance the game, but not in a cost effective way (that's what almost always happens), so people who were on the fence about buying the game on launch will choose not to, and to wait for a Gold edition instead with lots of cool little things that they are not willing to pay 80$ for. I really dislike this content delivery model. I really, really do.

So much rage in this thread.

Dexter111:
And I promise to wait as long as necessary until they drop their shit and release the game in a finished state, likely at half price with purchasing their product, if at all.

Incidentally I recently bought the Borderlands GOATEE Edition for like what 5-10€?
That's about what the game is worth for me if they go ahead the way they do trying to wring money out of people's pockets.

I get other games like Torchlight II, Dark Souls, Orcs Must Die 2, To The Moon etc. while they're new since they don't seem to employ similar business practices and even come out at more reasonable prices.

Were you expecting them to simply release the game, zero DLC, and call it good?

Season pass DLC sucks! Never do you get all the dlc that is released for a game with it within the year. It should be called "Here are a couple of DLC Packs for money up front, pay separately for the 15 other packs." I'm not angry just to clarify to all the Gearheads. Season Pass is an absurdly misleading title for what it is is all I'm saying. :D

NameIsRobertPaulson:
Were you expecting them to simply release the game, zero DLC, and call it good?

Yes I'm very much expecting that if a developer wants me to put down ~50-60€ on their new game I get the complete product, the same way it worked till about 2004 when Microsoft instated this "DLC policy" bullshit, the same way it works when I go to the cinema or buy a movie/album/book etc. Expansions with large content upgrades seem fine, this does not.

No skin off my back, more money for other games and KickStarters etc. and as I said I might grab it once they've decided to finalize the game and Release the final build instead of the Beta from the "bargain bin".

I love Borderlands 2, because it gives me an excuse to post this song:


OT: Not one for over-DLCing, but if they do what they did with the Secret Armory of General Knoxx, I will be quite happy.

wackelpudding:
When they first introduced the concept of the "Season Pass", I was under the impression such a Pass would include all the DLC that gets released for a game for a slightly discounted price. Good to see that they can cannibalise everything.

And now with John for the weather!

If I had actually grabbed a season pass I would be extremely annoyed right now. But since I didn't guess it's time to wait a year or so and hope there's a proper bundle down the line.

Seriously though if one of the games would just release a pay this price up front and you get EVERYTHING that comes out for it I would jump right on it fora game I like this much.

rolfwesselius:
People this is a kotaku article, The guys who said that the mechromancer would be a disc locked pre order bonus,
Let's wait for a source that is not kotaku before we make assumptions.

A sensible point. Very rare on the internet. ;)

Related: I know I'm very far from the only person who's really looking forward to trying out the Mechromancer. My boyfriend and I may need to resort to an actual dual to decide who gets her for our second coop playthrough. (We refuse to use the same character as each other at the same time. It's boring and you can't take advantage of comboing action skills.)

I think we should just shut down DLC for good, as well as a load of other features, until the gaming community can learn to grow up. Gearbox offered you a season pass, which gave you 4 packs for the price of 3. THAT is good in itself, if you're planning to get them all anyway. Just because the deal doesn't cover this stuff, doesn't make it a bad deal at all.

They might as well take the season pass away, so you have no discount, because apparently if the season pass didn't exist, we wouldn't be crying like tiny baby men when the discounted price isn't discounted enough.

Its like writing a complaint to a Tesco store because theres 4 packs of sweets you want and its 3 for 1, not 4.

Its not asif its pay to win like a F2P game, you're not required to spend the extra money.

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