Dead or Alive 5 Director: A Lot of Fans Want Bigger Breasts

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Revolutionaryloser:

Tenmar:
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Cool story. Nobody is stopping anybody from going to watch porn, if that's what they want. I have a right to criticize what I want as much as anybody else. If my opinion is now suddenly going to stop bad games from being released, then I'd rather horrible developers like these went out of business and developers who actually had some talent and taste got to make games.

Amen to that, there's enough of that in Soul Calibur anyway - no need to oversaturize the market. Cool videos RL.

Don't let the west try to trick you into thinking sexuality is somehow a bad thing, Tecmo.

I happen to enjoy this series for what it is.

The "fans" want this. I use quote because the people who USED too play these games got fed up with the objectifying and sexism.

Just like porn fans want more sex, DOA fans want more breasts.

Lol. People crying sexism, please kindly fuck off.

How is this hurting you, in any way, shape, or form? No one's forcing you to play these games, and no one is forcing you to buy them. If there was no demand for them, they would not exist. It's that fucking simple.

Jesus Christ, Feminism, the only "progressive" movement that somehow thinks it's alright to impose its puritanical hypocritical viewpoint onto EVERYTHING. So kinda like a liberal Faux News, or hey fuck it, even the Catholic Church!

You people are unbelievable. Live and let live, and take that fucking stick that's perpetually stuck up your tight liberal assholes out.

"Oh no! A game I had no intention of ever buying is SEXUALISING WIMINZ (the fucking horror!). Quick! Let me start complaining about it and try impose my own viewpoints onto everyone else, under the guise of "tolerance" and "equality", because I am the moral arbitrator of what is acceptable (notice how I will then bitch about the Catholic Church trying to do the same), except when I contradict my self (I'll do this a lot) about what is 'acceptable'."

Woah, I kinda went off there, but this shit pisses me right off.

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Seriously? For the sake of many peoples sanity I would suggest you ignore that request.

Grey Carter:

"We actually got a lot of feedback from people who were playing it, saying, 'We want bigger breasts. Make the characters more like that.' That was kind of surprising."

And this is why we can't have nice things.

Sacman:
<.> they're already absurdly large as it is... any bigger and its just silly... also, impossible to get off to...<.<

What a very... err, honest statement.

The fact that this is even something worth discussing is itself worth discussing. I'm pretty sure that like myself most if not all of you have participated in horrible horrible murder, carnage, mass destruction, and dismemberment of people in many a video game over the years, but here we are focusing too much on the joyous, delightful, and certainly less gory bosom. As if sawing a man in half with a chainsaw-gun (for fuck's sake) isn't nearly as mortifying as large breasts on shapely women.

Old argument? Absolutely! Let's face it, priorities are grievously askew here when controversy on a gore-laden medium is mostly about the size and or nature of human breasts, which aren't even exposed, though god forbid that would happen. Wouldn't want anything as awful as sex being depicted among all our harmless gore.

Wait, what? Some men like big breasts? This travesty must be addressed, immediately. Efforts to prohibit owning a penis must be accelerated......

Imo we should all be giving feedback to this company telling them to make the breasts larger. Just to see how ridiculous we can make them go. We might even be able to ruin the series for people who currently like it, by reducing it to absurdity. If we all band together we can get them to make the breasts larger than the torsos I'm sure.

Evil Smurf:
I like boobs more then the next guy, but if I want to watch big boobs I will watch porn.

Ditto.

Also it doesn't help that the characters all look so plain and uninteresting. I'd honestly be surprised if there was much of an audience for this outside of Japan. It seems to appeal to traditional Japanese sensibilities more than the west's (unsurprisingly since it comes from Japan.)

Still, I never bothered with DoA. Even when I was in that incredibly randy teen phase. Porn is just so much easier to acquire and infinetely more suited to the purpose.

Seriously, when are they gonna cut out the middle wo(man) and just make fighters who are different colored pairs of breasts. I guarantee it will sell if I just apply their logic to the equation.

So guys want to see women's tits? The only thing about this that annoys me as a woman is the sympathetic back pains I get when I see women with DD chests.

What they need to do is make those breasts useful for something more than making 13 to 15 year old boys drool.

CardinalPiggles:
People ask them to make the characters boobs bigger just to see if they do it, and how big they make them. It's more like they are challenging them to be obscene.

This.

At a certain point (which Team Ninja is rapidly approaching and may pass soon), the breasts are no longer titillating. They're just scary. Some may still find it sexy, but they're a significantly smaller sub-group.

Exactly how does any woman fight effectively (fighting game, remember) with a J-cup?

Riobux:

Grey Carter:

"We actually got a lot of feedback from people who were playing it, saying, 'We want bigger breasts. Make the characters more like that.' That was kind of surprising."

And this is why we can't have nice things.

large breasts are nice things.

I guess as long as my sister enjoys it, it won't really matter. It gets silly after a while, not sexy, but if you're playing only for the sexy, you're playing the wrong game. After a while, the boobs take a backseat to "OH MY FUCKING....BLOCK! FUCKING BLOCK! WHAT THE HELL?! I FUCKING BLOCKED!"

Although, purely as a spectator, can we get Hayate and Ryu and Leon in nothing but a pair of briefs as a costume? Something for the ladies/men?

lacktheknack:

CardinalPiggles:
People ask them to make the characters boobs bigger just to see if they do it, and how big they make them. It's more like they are challenging them to be obscene.

This.

At a certain point (which Team Ninja is rapidly approaching and may pass soon), the breasts are no longer titillating. They're just scary. Some may still find it sexy, but they're a significantly smaller sub-group.

Exactly how does any woman fight effectively (fighting game, remember) with a J-cup?

Having glanced through the roster (thanks go out to Matt from Two Best Friends), no one appeared to have J-cup sized breasts. Tina had like an E cup. Also, clearly many people like big breasts. There's a reason why videos with thumbnails like this

get millions upon millions of views.

So can there be a franchise with pretty fellows fighting each other? They can contort in strange fashions to show off the goods. Maybe the design team can invent a new algorithm for realistic ab flexing and realtime rendering of light sheens of sweat. There must be a guy dressed as a fireman and one in a tuxedo that gets more shredded as the rounds go on, and each combo must make male players uncomfortable and vaguely disgusted.

Yes. I have struck gold.

axlryder:

lacktheknack:

CardinalPiggles:
People ask them to make the characters boobs bigger just to see if they do it, and how big they make them. It's more like they are challenging them to be obscene.

This.

At a certain point (which Team Ninja is rapidly approaching and may pass soon), the breasts are no longer titillating. They're just scary. Some may still find it sexy, but they're a significantly smaller sub-group.

Exactly how does any woman fight effectively (fighting game, remember) with a J-cup?

Having glanced through the roster (thanks go out to Matt from Two Best Friends), no one appeared to have J-cup sized breasts. Tina had like an E cup. Also, clearly many people like big breasts. There's a reason why videos with thumbnails like this

get millions upon millions of views.

J-cup may be an exaggeration, but if they make the breasts bigger like they say they will, it won't be much of one.

And by "scary", I mean this.

Notice that I got that from "fugly.com". No way in hell would I go out with a girl with those proportions, and they're the direction that Dead or Alive seems to be going.

lacktheknack:

axlryder:

lacktheknack:

This.

At a certain point (which Team Ninja is rapidly approaching and may pass soon), the breasts are no longer titillating. They're just scary. Some may still find it sexy, but they're a significantly smaller sub-group.

Exactly how does any woman fight effectively (fighting game, remember) with a J-cup?

Having glanced through the roster (thanks go out to Matt from Two Best Friends), no one appeared to have J-cup sized breasts. Tina had like an E cup. Also, clearly many people like big breasts. There's a reason why videos with thumbnails like this

get millions upon millions of views.

J-cup may be an exaggeration, but if they make the breast bigger like they say they will, it won't be much of one.

And by "scary", I mean this.

Notice that I got that from "fugly.com". No way in hell would I go out with a girl with those proportions, and they're the direction that Dead or Alive seems to be going.

Uh, no. You're being hyperbolic. I mean, I know you know you are, but there's a massive (teehee) difference between upgrading a few of the characters to an F cup and turning them all into pairs of walking breasticles. Most guys I know would still consider an F cup to be reasonable. Large, yes, but not large to the point of looking totally unrealistic. J-cup I think would start to be off-putting to your average Joe. We're talking Hitomi Tanaka at that point (again, knowledge of the name can be credited to Matt for Two Best Friends). That...girl you posted as an example is about 12 cups too large to be compared to the DOA cast. Even if it did somehow escalate to that point, we'd both be old men before we got to see it.

I'd also like to point out that this conversation is, by far, the absolute pinnacle of sophistication.

lacktheknack:

And by "scary", I mean this.

Notice that I got that from "fugly.com". No way in hell would I go out with a girl with those proportions, and they're the direction that Dead or Alive seems to be going.

Ya do realize that the breast size of all the DOA characters since the franchise started has only gotten smaller right? Something you should know before you spout off all that crap from your ivory tower.

But once again there is the trend. People who play video games now and are part of this moral majority right wing crap don't realize that video games are not reality nor should they be compared to reality or crafted after reality. Sorry but realism is boring, bland and sucks all the imagination out of video games. You spend so much time bitching about the breast size when you don't realize the massive backstory and conspiracy the franchise has that is absolutely bonkers because it is a video game that doesn't care about reality.

Tenmar:

lacktheknack:

And by "scary", I mean this.

Notice that I got that from "fugly.com". No way in hell would I go out with a girl with those proportions, and they're the direction that Dead or Alive seems to be going.

Ya do realize that the breast size of all the DOA characters since the franchise started has only gotten smaller right? Something you should know before you spout off all that crap from your ivory tower.

>writes this in a thread called "DOA5 Director: A Lot Of Fans Want Bigger Breasts"

And THAT'S where I get my conclusions from. I'm sure you'll understand.

But once again there is the trend. People who play video games now and are part of this moral majority right wing crap don't realize that video games are not reality nor should they be compared to reality or crafted after reality. Sorry but realism is boring, bland and sucks all the imagination out of video games. You spend so much time bitching about the breast size when you don't realize the massive backstory and conspiracy the franchise has that is absolutely bonkers because it is a video game that doesn't care about reality.

Lies.

Aside from that, who gives a crap if the backstory is bonkers? It still annoying to see pure, unadulterated fan-service in a popular franchise, because, like it or not, it makes gamers look like a pack of clowns. If you don't care, then good for you! I care, so let me care.

Fuck the fighting. Just give me Beach Volleyball 3 already!

What's wrong with big tits?
My mom, aunts, and sisters all have big tits; it's in the family.
Some of them have larger breasts than any on the DoA characters.
Are you discriminating against them?

ExtraDebit:
I don't get people, if they want porn, why not get porn?

If you can find me porn starring many good looking women engaging in mild lesbian foreplay and subtext and blistering martial arts action, then hook a brother up.

Otherwise, allow me to enjoy my jiggly fighting game. I like DoA not only for its famous line up of ladies, but because even as a Tekken fan, its still the most difficult combat system to try and master.

Nalgas D. Lemur:

I love Japanese anime artists!

Anywho, to add my two cents. I wonder if we can get them to add Norma Stitz as a character in DOA6. :)

Denamic:
What's wrong with big tits?
My mom, aunts, and sisters all have big tits; it's in the family.
Some of them have larger breasts than any on the DoA characters.
Are you discriminating against them?

You are familiar with the concept of equal representarion, right?

Gordon_4:

ExtraDebit:
I don't get people, if they want porn, why not get porn?

If you can find me porn starring many good looking women engaging in mild lesbian foreplay and subtext and blistering martial arts action, then hook a brother up.

Otherwise, allow me to enjoy my jiggly fighting game. I like DoA not only for its famous line up of ladies, but because even as a Tekken fan, its still the most difficult combat system to try and master.

I think the main issue here is that Team Ninja has forgone technical innovation and chracter design (let alone "lesbian foreplay and subtext"), while opting for sixaxis boob fondling and badly composed close ups of women's nether regions and cleavage.

I think it's hard to argue that porn is enhanced when you add nuance, good characterization and pacing. At the moment, what Team Ninja produces is just sleazy, cheap, unrefined trash.

lacktheknack:

Aside from that, who gives a crap if the backstory is bonkers? It still annoying to see pure, unadulterated fan-service in a popular franchise, because, like it or not, it makes gamers look like a pack of clowns. If you don't care, then good for you! I care, so let me care.

Look like a pack of clowns to who exactly? People who aren't even discerning enough to understand that different games suit different tastes? People who can't understand that gamers aren't one giant hive mind? I mean, good god, someone who thought like that might be dumb enough to think that, since porn exists, everyone who enjoys movies must be a porn addict. I'm sorry, but why should developers be catering to those people again? Games have already managed to gain acceptance in mainstream media and is quickly being more commonly be viewed as an "artistic medium" (god knows whatever that means). This is despite all of the guts and gore and titillation since the early days of gaming. What's more, DOA6 adding slightly larger breasts isn't suddenly going to shock people and change their entire perception of gamers. It's already a fighting game about big boobs.

I could understand complaints that it's a decent fighting game and the further focus on breast is causing IT to be taken less seriously as a competitive fighting series, but gamers as a whole? Well, we're still making trashy R rated films and porn, and clearly that hasn't held film back.

Revolutionaryloser:

Gordon_4:

ExtraDebit:
I don't get people, if they want porn, why not get porn?

If you can find me porn starring many good looking women engaging in mild lesbian foreplay and subtext and blistering martial arts action, then hook a brother up.

Otherwise, allow me to enjoy my jiggly fighting game. I like DoA not only for its famous line up of ladies, but because even as a Tekken fan, its still the most difficult combat system to try and master.

I think the main issue here is that Team Ninja has forgone technical innovation and chracter design (let alone "lesbian foreplay and subtext"), while opting for sixaxis boob fondling and badly composed close ups of women's nether regions and cleavage.

I think it's hard to argue that porn is enhanced when you add nuance, good characterization and pacing. At the moment, what Team Ninja produces is just sleazy, cheap, unrefined trash.

You didn't answer my question: can you direct me to an adult film that features reasonably attractive women (be they Japanese, European, American or whatever) engaging in blisteringly awesome martial arts action?

Until you can, DoA is my bit of martial arts and fan service.

you know what, i'm going to buy as many copies of the game as there are jiggling breasts in it.
i'm sick of people trying to tell other people what is and is not supposed to be in a game
and im sick of narrow minded hypocrites blabbering on about body image and how it sets unrealistic precedents

if they cant tell that games are fantasy and
life is reality it is they that have the problem,
not any games developer and not the gamer.

i give full support to any developer trying to actively please their demographic
whatever that entails, it's good business practice and good fan service

Playful Pony:

Bullet-dodging penis would actually make more sense, would it not? At least men have muscles in the damn thing, breasts can NOT move on their own! ... I wouldn't put it beyond the Escapist users to find and post a video of someones breasts moving on their own now...

There are no muscles in the penis, it is merely erectile tissue. The only way to "move" it is by using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelvic_diaphragm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pubococcygeus_muscle, both of which are not exclusive to men.

TL;DR - a flaccid penis moves the same way as jiggly breasts: it flops around when you move hard enough.

snowplow:

Playful Pony:

Bullet-dodging penis would actually make more sense, would it not? At least men have muscles in the damn thing, breasts can NOT move on their own! ... I wouldn't put it beyond the Escapist users to find and post a video of someones breasts moving on their own now...

There are no muscles in the penis, it is merely erectile tissue. The only way to "move" it is by using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelvic_diaphragm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pubococcygeus_muscle, both of which are not exclusive to men.

TL;DR - a flaccid penis moves the same way as jiggly breasts: it flops around when you move hard enough.

How did that need a TL;DR?... Ok I see. Still, bullet dodging breasts make no sense Oo. Maybe you could train yourself to manipulate your penis or breasts in such a way? ... No, I'm not going to try and rationalize that damn scene!

I'm guessing players would also like some girl-on-girl porn, telekinetic powers, BFGs, Transformers and ninjas in their games. You don't have to oblige.

Grey Carter:
"We actually got a lot of feedback from people who were playing it, saying, 'We want bigger breasts. Make the characters more like that.' That was kind of surprising."

He's joking, right ?

captcha: Queen Nefertiti .... Oh come on! Now you're just messing with me.

Why not just turn the characters into gigantic breasts that bash into each other? Seem like it would make it cheaper to make the games. And it would sell more than anything in history.

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