CD Projekt Details Cyberpunk 2077

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CD Projekt Details Cyberpunk 2077

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CD Projekt's Cyberpunk RPG has a slightly new name and an all-new website.

CD Projekt revealed its new Cyberpunk RPG back in May and while it wasn't widely seen as the best game title ever, at least it came from an honest place: it's based on Mike Pondsmith's pencil-and-paper RPG system Cyberpunk 2020. But now the game has a slightly spiffier name that also differentiates it from the original PnP version.

Cyberpunk 2077 will be set a half-century after Cyberpunk 2020 but will still feature some of the game's well-known settings, including Afterlife, Forlorn Hope and a combat zone overrun by gangs. Like CD Projekt's famous Witcher franchise, the game will boast a "multi-thread, non-linear story" intended for mature players, with a significant degree of player freedom.

The studio has also launched a new blog which currently contains an few wallpapers, announcement videos and the usual "subscribe to our mailing list" link, plus an introduction by Pondsmith, who is working with CDPR on the development of the game, and a treatise on the difficulties of adapting PnP rules to a videogame format.

"Adapting pen & paper rules to video game is not as easy as it can appear at first glance. The flexibility of an in-person RPG has to be replaced with a strict set of rules. Every skill, attribute and game mechanic has to have a clear definition and place in the game," the studio explained. "For hardcore Cyberpunk 2020 fans out there, twiddling with rules in such a way may seem like blasphemy. But rest assured that we are working very closely with Mike Pondsmith to ensure that the unique feel of the original, paper game is preserved intact."

It's still pretty thin but with CD Projekt's reputation and the hands-on involvement of the original Cyberpunk creator, I think the potential is very exciting.

Source: Cyberpunk.net

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Is it possible for a single image to sell a game? I think so. Hope it comes out on consoles.

It looks like Major Kusanagi and Kerrigan had a love child O.O

I cannot wait for this - CD Project's storytelling & mechanics in a grim, future-tech dystopia?

I am sold.

Jorec:
Is it possible for a single image to sell a game? I think so. Hope it comes out on consoles.

I was already sold on the game, but I will admit that's just an awesomely striking image. I also love the retro 80's future style font/logo.

And, depending on how this develops, I could actually see this being a system seller/PC upgrade seller for me. I love me some Cyberpunk and these guys just seem like the right ones to do it.

I'm very excited to see what they can do with the Cyberpunk franchise. I hope it'll be made with the PC as the primary/exclusive platform, like the Witcher series.

This image is completely tasteless. Half-naked woman with Adam Jensen-style blades, d'oh. My first impression is ruined.

Another game from CDProject based on some rather esoteric source material...but that's not a complaint. I read some of the Witcher books because of the games, so now I wouldn't mind looking into the ruleset of this game for my next currently unplanned tabletop session.

Most importantly, good on them for making the kind of games they want to, they wish a game existed so they go ahead and make it real. Mark me as totally excited about this.

EDIT: I hadn't realized Cyberpunk was so popular, I've played a lot of D20 settings (I don't imagine this is) and never heard of it. My mistake for equating "I don't know about it" to "esoteric"

Now that I was thinking about this game more, I hope they take their time and release it a little closer to their ideal state. I appreciated all the patches, DLC, and revisions for Wither 2 being free, but it was kinda jarring sometimes to get new quests for areas I'd already been through, and the many restarts I did because "now it's the definitive experience" or director's cut, or whatever it may be called. Then again, if I finished it near launch and they went ahead and overhauled the whole damn thing, it would be an incentive to re-visit it. I imagine they're quite the perfectionists over there.

Cyberpunk was always different. it wasnt that you had the latest cyberwear the latest weapons and gadgets. hundreds had those. it was how you used them how different you were, style over substance is the cyberpunk way.

DrunkOnEstus:
Another game from CDProject based on some rather esoteric source material...but that's not a complaint. I read some of the Witcher books because of the games, so now I wouldn't mind looking into the ruleset of this game for my next currently unplanned tabletop session.

Most importantly, good on them for making the kind of games they want to, they wish a game existed so they go ahead and make it real. Mark me as totally excited about this.

haha there is over 45 source books and it has 5 million players :D

stay away from cybergeneration it went more superhero with that and lost the cyberpunk feel.

the combat system with cyberpunk was brutal to say the least and dealing with someone who has that much cyberwear they went full on cyberpsychosis was one of the scariest table top experiences.

I hope it will be a pc game instead of a console game with a pc version, It was a good game don't get me wrong but it was way too consolised.
OT: does cyberpunk 2020 have guns?, and how would that work in a game without becoming a shooter.

Cyberpunk 2077...Damn, cyberpunk 203X (v3) really turned me off. I hope it's not a continuation of the original time line. Mind you, since they are mentioning 2020 fans and it's supposed to be specifically based on 20202 then maybe they've just changed the time in which the original 2020 was set as it's be kind of ludicrous to have it all happening in 2020 from our perspective in 2012, putting it back to 2077 might make it seem a bit more feasible.

Andy Chalk:
CD Projekt Details Cyberpunk 2077
" intended for mature players,

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The blood splattered girl in her nightie would suggest otherwise.

As CDProjekt has something of a darling status among PC gamers the image could have been a crayon drawing of a cock and most people here would be fawning over it.

CortexReaver:
This image is completely tasteless. Half-naked woman with Adam Jensen-style blades, d'oh. My first impression is ruined.

I like it. The vulnerable sexuality of the girl in her undies is sharply contrasted with the fact that she has blades coming out of her arms and is drenched in blood.

It gives the ominous sense that in this world, just about anything could gut you alive.

rolfwesselius:

OT: does cyberpunk 2020 have guns?, and how would that work in a game without becoming a shooter.

Fucktons.

I can't answer the second, that will be down to the game designers. Maybe it'll be a bit like Fallout 3 or Deus Ex? The pnp game could be pretty deadly, getting into a fire fight was a good way to end up dead unless you were well prepared or the GM was feeling nice, so trying to achieve goals without getting shot at was generally a good idea (although being pnp you could play whatever way you wanted really). Maybe they'll make it like that? Who knows? We'll have to wait and see.

CortexReaver:
This image is completely tasteless. Half-naked woman with Adam Jensen-style blades, d'oh. My first impression is ruined.

I beg you, good sir, look again. Those blades appear to be kama, an Asian weapon with origins as a farming tool that is prevalent in Filipino martial arts.
By contrast, Adam Jensen has a pair meter-long blunt tipped edged pieces of steel which pop out of his forearms.

The "Slinky" outfit. (A strapless halter top and a bikini bottom, it appears), is as much a uniform for women in cyberpunk as longcoats are.

"Adapting pen & paper rules to video game is not as easy as it can appear at first glance. The flexibility of an in-person RPG has to be replaced with a strict set of rules. Every skill, attribute and game mechanic has to have a clear definition and place in the game," the studio explained. "For hardcore Cyberpunk 2020 fans out there, twiddling with rules in such a way may seem like blasphemy. But rest assured that we are working very closely with Mike Pondsmith to ensure that the unique feel of the original, paper game is preserved intact."

I still hope they can find an interesting way to incorporate botching into the game though. If I don't have a 1-in-10 chance of potentially shooting myself in the face then it just isn't Cyberpunk.

Also the whole idea of fashion being an equally viable and necessary progression for the character. Can't get the best jobs unless you can get into the swankiest club.

I used to play the pen and paper game in my youth so this has my attention. I very much look forward to more information.

Cyberpunk is one of my favourite genres and CD Projekt knows how to do RPGs. I'm very interested.

It's hard to tell in that image but if you look at the original (the site is currently down for some reason, but it's there), she actually appears to be either a cyborg or a heavily augmented human. It's quite arguable that the outfit is meant to expose the woman's meta-humanism as much as it is as straight-up "sex sells" marketing.

Sweet. Simple rule really: give me an RPG set in the future, put lasers in it, and I'm happy.

Now all they've got to deliver are some lasers.

I've got quite a bit of the old Cyberpunk material. About the only thing the alternative history in it has going for it is how completely off the rails it is from how anything actually turned out. The EU is the dominant economic power, for example, and the Euro the world reserve currency, rather than the economic basket case that could fly apart at any moment.

It was very much in vogue to minimize the nation state and play up the corporation in early cyberpunk, but what we ended up with was big business and big government backing one another, and yes, there's a difference between that and a weak/collapsed government overrun by extraterritorial corporations. I'd love to see a cyberpunk setting that took more of that into account, rather than the same old same old which feels pretty stale and dated by this point.

Though this is set in 2077, so maybe they'll remake some of the timeline? But based on what I saw in the Cybergeneration timeline, I'm not holding out much hope.

I've been looking forward to this game ever since I heard it was announced. (CDProjekt RPG, awesome, cyberpunk, even more awesome!)

I do hope they get the science right, in DE:HR the attention to detail when it came to the science of the implants was quite impressive.

Andy Chalk:
It's hard to tell in that image but if you look at the original (the site is currently down for some reason, but it's there), she actually appears to be either a cyborg or a heavily augmented human. It's quite arguable that the outfit is meant to expose the woman's meta-humanism as much as it is as straight-up "sex sells" marketing.

Actually, she is most probably meant to be Alt Cunningham, an iconic "netrunner" from the original game, that was treacherously killed by the evil corporation Araska (sorry, spoilers :P). Later, her "digital ghost" was able to break free into the net...

Some of us think that they are bringing her back as a playable character for this new setting, as one of the shots from the teaser trailer revealed yesterday, clearly shows a cyborg-hand with "red painted nails".

http://imageshack.us/a/img18/3615/cyborghand.jpg

Let's see. A game based on one of my favorite game genres and systems, done by the makers of (arguably) the best action RPG's on the planet with the best storylines written. Sirs, kindly shut up and take my money. Now.

Great, I've been waiting for more information on this. Still not much but enough to get me excited. Everything about this sounds very promising, we'll see what CD Project will do with this.

mattaui:
Though this is set in 2077, so maybe they'll remake some of the timeline? But based on what I saw in the Cybergeneration timeline, I'm not holding out much hope.

I think cybergeneration was always considered "alternative universe" to main 2020.

Having watched the presentations on the site it might be a rewrite of Cyberpunk V3. Mike Pondsmith mentions the end of the 4th corporate war but there's nothing said about V3 (very wisely IMO) so maybe he's using this to "reboot" the franchise after V3 bombed and shifting the timeline a bit so it makes more sense to people who aren't familiar with the original.

Jack_in_theGreen:
Actually, she is most probably meant to be Alt Cunningham, an iconic "netrunner" from the original game, that was treacherously killed by the evil corporation Araska (sorry, spoilers :P). Later, her "digital ghost" was able to break free into the net...

Hey now, that was an accident! Sure, they would probably have killed her anyway but it was the rescue team that actually cut her lifeline, as it were.

DrunkOnEstus:
Another game from CDProject based on some rather esoteric source material...but that's not a complaint. I read some of the Witcher books because of the games, so now I wouldn't mind looking into the ruleset of this game for my next currently unplanned tabletop session.

Most importantly, good on them for making the kind of games they want to, they wish a game existed so they go ahead and make it real. Mark me as totally excited about this.

EDIT: I hadn't realized Cyberpunk was so popular, I've played a lot of D20 settings (I don't imagine this is) and never heard of it. My mistake for equating "I don't know about it" to "esoteric"

Now that I was thinking about this game more, I hope they take their time and release it a little closer to their ideal state. I appreciated all the patches, DLC, and revisions for Wither 2 being free, but it was kinda jarring sometimes to get new quests for areas I'd already been through, and the many restarts I did because "now it's the definitive experience" or director's cut, or whatever it may be called. Then again, if I finished it near launch and they went ahead and overhauled the whole damn thing, it would be an incentive to re-visit it. I imagine they're quite the perfectionists over there.

Don't feel bad, I HAVE heard of it, and played and GMed it more than a few times (have a pretty huge stack of the books still), and agree with you that it counts as esoteric. It's one of those "also ran" RPGs that enjoyed a degree of success among pnp RPG gamers and spawned a good number of supplements and multiple editions BUT never achieved anything like the semi-mainstream recognition of games like "Dungeons and Dragons", "Vampire: The Masquerade" or even "Shadowrun" enjoyed at various times.

It was one of the first games to come up with a fair way of handling cyberware, and was perhaps the first I seriously played that used a system of damage scales, basically a big thing being needed to take out a big thing, so you couldn't say blow a tank away with enough shots from a handgun. Palladium came up with a more famous (and also much simpler, and also much parodied) system but I first encountered the basic idea with CP2020.

Basically, don't let fanboys get you down. I actually think one of Cyberpunk's saving graces was that it never got too mainstream. Trying to cater to more casual gamers and an increasingly younger player base and lower human denominator was part of what lead to D&D's degeneration over the years, but that's another entire discussion.

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As far as the news goes, I'm cautious. My gut feeling is that this will be a cash grab made in hopes of revitalizing the property (taking something fairly obscure and making it more mainstream through game exposure) and while good for the pocketbooks of R. Talslorian or whomever holds the CP2020 liscence and CD Projeckt won't be good for the property.

In the final equasion I just think CD Projekt might be good, but they are all wrong for this material. Sure they do dark, edgy, stuff, but they tend to not really be freeform enough to really create a true RPG world. "The Witcher" worked because it was dealing with a series of novels, doing minimal character development when you get down to it, and basically telling a story that could be heavily controlled by the definition of the protaganist they were using.

One of the big strengths of CP 2020, like any successful RPG, is the character generation system. That's the big hook that grabs people and what a successful game builds on in spades. You take that, and the diverse kinds of characters that can be created, away from it and it's pretty much "meh". It's the way you can control the mechanics in CP 2020 and what you can do with them rather than the system itself, and if someone hands you "Billy Bob, the cyber merc" the way they do with Geralt and then build the world around that one perspective, your losing like 90% of the point of wanting to use this engine to begin with. See in CP 2020 you could play as the Solo (mercenary guy) but also as a Fixer, Reporter (Max Headroom), Cop (Judge Dredd), or even one of the corperate dudes who is typically a genere villain. It's also a setting where outside of the cities is totally lawless (again think Judge Dredd) and you have bands of Nomads (think Mad Max) terrorizing everything, which are another player option. Bringing all those diverse elements together and experiencing the world from any of those perspectives (or variations on them) is part of the point.

I'd also point out that if they DO indeed do this, they might need to go further than 2077. If the idea is to use the world, they already did CP 2020's "future" in a game called "Cyber Generation". A sequel that met with mixed results but was kind of fun. Basically the so called "Dark Future" ends and things civilize, but a technological accident releases clouds of nanites that infect large numbers of kids and give them nano-based powers, this being referred to as "The Carbon Plague". Cybergeneration basically being about the future of the 2020 universe where you play as one of those kids that are being hunted down by the now totalitarian semi-utopian society.

Now yes, I'm an uber-nerd (and have admitted it before), but I'm one of those people who looks at people picking up a property and has to wonder if they realy want that property or just some elements of it, and if it's just some elements of it, why bother to keep the name or association?

In the end this is a case where I feel a lot of fans are going to get stepped on if they view this as a real CP 2020 revival of sorts. Truthfully I think CD Projeckt would do better to drop the entire "Cyberpunk 2020" referance and system, create their own dark future game from scratch, and just use Mr. Pondsmith as a consultant. Everyone gets paid, and honestly I think a lot of people would be happy to see CP 2020 have ended with some fond memory rather than being re-animated from it's pseudo-grave and made to dance around until it collapses into a pile of muck that will taint the fond memories it previously spawned.

Such are my thoughts.

A bit odd, but the Cyberpunk blog is now up at cyberpunk2077.com. Don't know if the original is coming back, but either way, here's a better look at that pic:

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And since that's still relatively low-res, a link to the full size images: http://wpc.4d7d.edgecastcdn.net/004D7D/www/cyberpunk/img/1600x1200_GIRL-CP77.jpg

I love Cyberpunk 2020 as a system and the setting isn't bad at all if you want decent 80s Cyberpunk.

This has my interest.

Andy Chalk:
A bit odd, but the Cyberpunk blog is now up at cyberpunk2077.com. Don't know if the original is coming back, but either way, here's a better look at that pic:

There are TWO sites, one is managed by Pondsmith, the other by CDPRed; they both share the same articles.

Hmm, that characters arms sure look like some of the characters from Eden: It's an Endless World!. Perhaps the artists got some inspiration from it.

Can't recall the name of one of the characters, but I'll edit my post if I find it.

A Cyberpunk RPG? I'm sold.

They already have my money.

Witcher 1 & 2 was pretty dense in the world & atmosphere department. I'd love to see that level of detail and passion translated into a heavy sci-fi setting. Hopefully it's not 3 years away or something, but it probably is..

Colour me erect. By 'me', I of course mean my penis. Because I am excited, and not because of the picture. Well, the picture may have a little to do with it. Them's some sexy arms.

CortexReaver:
This image is completely tasteless. Half-naked woman with Adam Jensen-style blades, d'oh. My first impression is ruined.

If you watch this where the developers and the Franchise's origional creator explane some things. There is a lot of fluff in there. However they do explane that this image is based off part of the origional Pen and Paper game.

So yes it may be what is considered one of the "problems" with the current gaming industry. However it is just a shout out to the 1988 game.
Sad that it ruins the first impressions but I can see why it does.

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